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The Falling Tower
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After spending my entire life in the high control group known as Jehovah’s Witnesses, I finally summoned the courage to investigate my beliefs and the organization of which I was a member. Upon doing so, I discovered a massive string of hypocrisy, lies, and deception that continues to this day. As a former elder and pioneer, I consider it part of my penance and responsibility to help at least awaken one other person or give them the courage to live their life free of the chains of this organization. My goal is to provide the information necessary to show the deception used by this organization, point out its hypocrisy, and give any assistance possible to help others come to terms with waking up from the indoctrination and dealing with those who are still in it.
A Conversation with Daniel Graves (Former Elder, Bethelite, Pioneer)
Catching up with Daniel Graves and getting a bit more backstory into his time as an elder, bethelite, and pioneer. Always nice to hear another success story after exiting a high control group!
Check out the following links:
The Liberati: www.theliberati.org
Daniel's TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@danieltoddgraves
0:00 Intro
1:33 Background info
3:34 Being an elder
5:36 Life in Bethel
10:40 Working in the HID
18:33 CSA documents
21:26 CSA case at Bethel
25:52 Car accident at Bethel
30:20 Waking up
35:30 Meeting ExJWs
41:40 Rebuilding your social network
46:28 Results from telling your story
53:50 Forming The Liberati & TikTok
1:00:48 Life now
1:03:45 Message to people waking up
1:06:54 Message to friends & family
Check out the following links:
The Liberati: www.theliberati.org
Daniel's TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@danieltoddgraves
0:00 Intro
1:33 Background info
3:34 Being an elder
5:36 Life in Bethel
10:40 Working in the HID
18:33 CSA documents
21:26 CSA case at Bethel
25:52 Car accident at Bethel
30:20 Waking up
35:30 Meeting ExJWs
41:40 Rebuilding your social network
46:28 Results from telling your story
53:50 Forming The Liberati & TikTok
1:00:48 Life now
1:03:45 Message to people waking up
1:06:54 Message to friends & family
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Why I Left Jehovah's Witnesses - Former Elder / Pioneer
I was disfellowshipped and no one reached out only my childhood friend. When one of my family member got out people begged him to come back.. when my friend also left they did the same.. I was crushed cause that tells me no one gaf about me and actually felt relieved they didn’t had to pretend to like me. I learned that just cause people are religious don’t mean they’re friendly and kind…I tried my best but wasn’t all in it tbh cause I didn’t like the way their rules were and I was always trying to be good to people there and helping them but because they viewed me as weird they just talked shit about me… so I’m glad I got out.
Watch Gino Jennings if you want to learn the real Bible and how to have a real relationship with God. Nowhere in the Bible does it say to join a man made religion just saying
Wow! Plain and straightforward speech .That’s a lot to think about.Beautifully executed. I hope you have peace now that you are on an open minded journey.🤗
"You have to have faith." I heard that a lot, too! That caught my attention, when you said that, and I was engrossed. I see parallels in regards to you journey and mine. A key difference is I didn't have the internet to see the cracks. I wish I did. I was born into it, which is something the elders couldn't seem to wrap their heads around. The psychological ramifications are incredible. I left at 16, but I would return to the religion at sporadic intervals during key ages in my life- 21, 27, 30, and 35 years of age. just to understand why about everything. How are you supposed to convert the very people you are supposed to hate? And every single time it got more interesting because the message hadn't changed since I was a kid with questions.
So sad that people can look directly at the scriptures and still deny it.
😊 📖 ❤ Phil. 4 :8 ❤📖 😊
We only need the Bible, God's word! Any other books are just decieveing and changing word's! I never judge others because I don't want to be judged! God welcomes you! No one is perfect! I waisted 12 yrs, of my life! Because of witnesses who illegally took my baby sister and I didn't want religion to seperate us! But now has😢😢😢
I pray in the name of Jesus Christ that your family will all be saved! From lies! It's not easy to see the truth when you have been brainwashed! 😢
God loves you! His revealed the truth to you! Don't give up! ❤😢
Have had all these experiences 😂 🤭 was terribly hurt but praise God now I am truly saved!
God almighty our father is love, He would never cause such pain or turn us away! They practice the opposite! Breaking up families it's a cult! Yes! God does choose us all but it's a choice and a blessing! Not drama, this is a form of abuse! Blood is thicker than water, don't stop praying for your family! This is all bullying! You did the right thing! Please don't give up on God! He will never give up on you! Let them lie! It's not by your hand!
You are always the problem, that's how it works! 😢
Praise God! There are hundreds of brothers and sisters been brainwashed! I can tell you some very scary things! And when I asked questions I was badly accused and abused! 😢 But getting PPL to believe what is going on, is not easy! I was told to leave and never come back! Nothing was done! Such liers and very evil PPL! 😢😢 They adamant to stand together with out questions! It's dangerous to be part of this organisation! They also must have bags ready to run and meet together if must be! This sounds very strange?? Very controlling! Turning your back on PPL without any reason?? Breaking families up! They are seriously in great danger! 😢
Bless you. Please look to Christ for guidance. Pray, brother. Do not let your past eat up your faith.
So did you come to faith in the true Christ?
Good channel! 😊 What's happened to you?
I was a JW for years until I realised their stance on CSA
Kevin Bowditch looks so lost when he is asked those questions - like a stunned mullet! 😅
New to this site...thank you very much. I
Just wondering if you still believe in God?
I love the concise talk proving the large number of fallacies without being too sarcastic, and gosh, I know that there is plenty of material to do it
Can't have any civil discussion with my mother about anything involving her JW beliefs. I asked her is it wrong to have religious beliefs that weren't hers and make an effort to be a good person. She couldn't answer. Because in her eyes, anyone that doesn't believe what she does isn't good, no matter how much you try to improve your life. I am going no contact with her. It'll honestly do me more good to just do that.
LDS is the same only much much more extreme! Trust me I lived it.
DON'T WATCH THIS UNLESS YOU ARE ABLE TO STAY CLOSE AND STOP ALL THE COMMERCIALS.
OMG I faded a few years ago. My son, who is now 26 had questions. This is a very informative video. My congregation was family. After my dad's passing last year. My divorce from a "witness" who cheated on me for 19 years of out 25 year marriage. I know I made the right decision. My outlook on life. My outlook on people has changed. I have more appreciation for God. I love life and people more. My life is exactly where it needs to be.
Thank u fr sharing this video, accordind to how and why the ex Elder left the Congregation, remember Jehovah in past and now that the Bibles Are Bieng Burned and Banned, Does Not Force Anyone To Worship Him and Christ Jesus Very, Very Sad Considering What He Had To Go Through To Give You And Your Loving Family Everlasting Life Rite Here On Earth, And That For An Elder Who Taught The Truth, Shepherd God,s Sheep In Stormy, Rainy And Calm Situations, Gave Loving, Encouraging Talks And Even Took Part Disfellowshiping Ones Who Would,nt Comply To Bible Princepals And Still Took Care Of The Elderly Like Me, Even Guiding The Field Service Group And Help With Cleaning The Kingdom Hall, Everything You Did Pleased Your King Christ Jesus And Made Your Creator Who Gives You And Your Family Life Everyday As We Get Nearer To The End Of This System Of Things, And You Just Threw All Of It Back In Your Creators And Future Kings Face, How Do You And Your Family Sleep At Night? Come On Man Are You So Heartless Dont You Love Your Family Enough To Save Thier Lives? Get Your Gear Together, Start Returning To Jehovah Your God You And Your Family And Lets Meet In Paradise Ok, How About Singing That Song, Come Now Dont Be Afraid Just Look For The Deepest Part Of Your Heart At The Back And Not The Front, And Go Back To Your God And King Whom You Loved In The Begining, The Congregation Needs Ones Like You, Strong Healthy And Helpful or Do You Want To Remain As Isaiah 1:28 that says "The Rebels And Sinners Will Be Broken Together And Those Leaving Jehovah Will Come To Thier Finish Forever And Ever Amen" Again Cu In Paradise❤😊
They used to knock at our door and explained they were J. Witnesses, when I got older around 11 or 12 yrs old my folks were gone shopping and they popped by while I was watching Wrestling. I didn t know these people so did not let them in but didnt want to miss Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant!! When they told me they were Witnesses etc...I said "sorry but I didnt see any Accident so can't testify !!" bye bye
This video was almost like asmr for me haha 🥴 you could be a voice actor or a narrator of documentaries! I mean that in the best way.
I am not, or ever was, a JW. I stumbled on Panda Tower's channel and kinda entered rabbit hole of JW world. You are talking in a very interesting and engaging way, I think I will see the rest of your channel. Also thank you for sharing your story.
I realise JWs dislike Catholics more than other Christians. But it has to be said that (historically, organically, ecclesiologically, liturgically) the Catholic Church is the ORIGINAL Church. As the original church, she can trace her existence back to the time of the apostles themselves & early Church fathers. Period. The Catholic Church is for ALL Christians, at ALL times & in ALL parts of the world. To those who leave & join the Catholic Church, I say WELCOME HOME to the authentic Church of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Why d you have the publications behind?
When you become more interested in the truth than your organization - that's when you really find God!
The rational and logic approach he took to leaving, is refreshing. No drama, no strong bitterness. Just "Let's move on with minimum friction".
I was raised a Jehovah’s Witness. My grandfather, uncle and my father were all elders in the Jehovah’s Witness congregation. I suffered sexual abuse at that same uncle’s hands throughout my entire childhood. It was covered up by the entire family. The same family who has shunned me for 30+ years because of coming out as a gay man. I think it’s time my story and other stories like it are heard..
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Jws are just soo hurtful! My entire family lives in the trailer park I live in and not one of them will even acknowledge me!! Jw kingdom hall is across the street..but not one of them will knock on my door..I am here! I am a human..but not in their eyes. I am dead to them..all because I questioned their beliefs when I was 19..I'm now 54..
This is an incredibly boring young man. He's just blabbing about nothing, endlessly. Go away
Hi , i grow up in a family of JW members(in the philippines), my dad is an elder(sadly died from multiful organ complication *doctor said he got 1 week to live and it came true* 2011 after we visit a hospital) . My elderly mom(60y/o) still a solid 101% JW despite all the negatives happening in the world. I have a baptized brother who is now no longer attending meetings reason being in dubai country *working(get unemployed due to covid)/ gambling addiction(have debt.* We use our house as a collateral to an jw elder to help us pay the debt)/heartbreak etc. But now as i typing this thankfully he is now a clean man(he said) and applying a new job in dubai.) And me a unbaptized and now just a male human who stop jw studyinh because of the pressure like you said. I just want to say that even though i stop studying or attend meetings or doing door to door sharing. I 100% still believe that Jehovah(Yaweh) is our God's name and still pray when i had the chance. Because there is only 2 option, 2 choices , true or false, etc. Is it's either you choose to believe it or not YOUrselves. I have no negative comments nor thinking about what you experience or what you say in this video, because we did not experience it ourselves what are happened in the bible contents. And for those topic you said about the organization about lies and abuse etc. I totally agree but running away/choose to escape that problem or any other problem is understandable for their part. Because some question dont have answers unless we experience it ourselves. Thank you for sharing your experience. We all know that we are not a perfect beings and this problems happening in or out in the jw org. are because we all sinned. Hopefully eve tho all of this happened and you are no longer part of the jw org. I hope you still believe that Jehovah(yaweh) is the true name of God. My mom always said that you(me) really don't need to care about what others think even her because only your own beliefs, only you yourself can save you. ❤ (Sorry for my bad english)
where can I see these court cases you saw?? my family member has been a jew since she was 17. she is 70yrs old now and so dedicated...but our family never get to have her at so many family gatherings. Even if someone important in our family had passed away or was very ill she would not cancel a JW meeting or conference. I think she needs the security of this organization..I dont know what she would be if she didn't have them.
Больше спасибо за видео.❤ Ты очень подробно и подоброму все изложил шаг за шагом. Большое спасибо что ты находишь время для того чтобы записывать это видео. Я смотрела видео с переводом на русский язык .
Yeah yeah yeah. If you dig deeply, you’ll find out that all churches have or had some sort of issues in court. I think you spend too much time worrying about something when you could have been focusing why other religions are wrong and how JW ARE had have been the only religion that ushers Gods names. I am no where near a witness, I just left a life of sin. However, I DO study the Bible everyday. I not only read the NWT, I use the Geneva bible(1599) and the original scriptures in Hebrew and Greek. As far as the Bible goes, JW are the most accurate.
Where’s the proof you were an elder?
Where I come from an Elder is at least 60 because they have Life Experience.
Shame I feel sad u are very nice man I will be hear if you ever want to talk I can see nice man if you changed you mind I can see you are a man who who’ you are man of prisiples so sorry to hear your story you can come back the door still open please just have a think u was looking in wrong lplaces
What is the truth then
So it’s nothing to do with God but men I won’t be swayed by what you say it’s all gossip eny way I’m won’t be swayed so you enjoyed it this is why we should not listen to you what have you found that’s better then what you had sounds like you had good time being jw u was looking for it then but the bible is true u do just to wait for God it u is not goog to look to apostics but you was so privledged in the gongregation go ahead u won’t turn me it’s seems very small thing to throw your faith away u should wait on your God u had it all in the gonging but your trust in men more that your God you had so much historians are not God I sooner take my chance it with Jehovah more then man but what you got now organisational is imperfect but God some of them are vile some of them are realy bad iv like you have looked at them so what hope you got now a have you got sure hope if future do you not believe in Jehovah eny more they are imperfect men what hope you got for future child a bust is not some thing that jw encourage the churches have same broblem your forgetting is Satan steers trouble you must know people will hide behind religion it comes from Satan he’s blinded you you seem like a nice man but u tube is full of gossip not true liest please consider what u have learned and what you had the light gets brighter jehovah will enlighten you u let man stopped you serving your god shame you are missing out just because of imperfect man u should yes it that’s imperfect man they could look at u say same Thing God will sert there’s ones it will cost u your life we are all imperfect but u look at imperfect men and letting them what about you you not mentioned the bible once u lost your love for your God u not menthion him once why not the bible don’t throw it away because of w it will come out soon wait on your God come home don’t lieve wait on Jehovah he loves his people it will get serted a brother in the gongregation years ago left the truth because he believe in reverlation the grea crowd to live on earth but they bdid except it till 10 years later but when it came out he was right but he left the truth please t don t throw it away because of this wait on Jehovah look at what your throwing away u been look ing for it and Satan as led u to find it wait on Jehovah look at what u have lernt over the years feel so sorry do you not believe the bible what about Jesus he gave is life for you I’m speaking to you I know good man when I see him or hear him think what your doing do you not feel the loss of your God think about it you might hear some thing to satisfie you history niot always right you are likeable man I wish you well I feel your loss as I think you made your God sad
Iv asked you I’m jw I think big loss
U looked at man and not God u not mentioned bibles Gods ward men are imperfect u looking for perfection u won’t find it and you should not keep looking at man not God how do you know this is true if it is how do you know this is true you are looking at man again u looking for perfection Jehovah wii sert them look at the knoledge we had come on we have good knoledge ofbible how do you know all this u have been lookind for it uwill find it it’s your love for God not Man U are very criticle
So what hope do you have now you are looking at bible but men they are imperfect men who fall short what a bout the bible and how u lernt that and your God don’t u believe in him eny more history is not inspired but bible is if u look for it you find it men are imperfect I wish you well hope you come back the door is still open
I left at 19 and have never returned! I would never be a part of any religion!
Thank you so much for being vulnerable and thorough, for sharing your story and the details of why you left. Thank you for the respect and love you have for the elders and others in the organization. Thank you very much for that list of 19 things that made you question. I'm so glad you did your research and I hope this brings many others to wake up too. I'm a Christian who loves the Lord Jesus. And I hope those leaving the JW organization can find the love and hope of Jesus. ❤️
The lawyer is a liar and represents Satan like all JW’s are and do. The millions of people this org has destroyed, used and extracted financial security from is on a scale larger than communism- the sexual abuse is now becoming apparent. Don’t ever believe any JW publications, representatives or press releases. This is hell on earth.