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So if I throw 20 mph @480 rpm which route would be a good start for me?

This was a wildly helpful video. I recently inherited a Radical Closer (sym) and Hammer Redemption Pearl. I find myself grabbing the Redemption way more. Even when i dont bowl well, i find myself preferring the Redemption. So, it makes sense after seeing this video. Because of the type of bowler i am, i do see that i benefit more from an asymmetrical

Bring back the C system, Nick. You know it would be awesome

keep up the good work!

Hey guys’ how do I get a shirt like you two have on this show

Purple Wine(r)!

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I enjoyed the presentation. Thanks guys.

After I get home from league I thoroughly clean my resin balls with 91% isopropyl. Since I have faithfully done this I have never had a single drop of oil come out of any of my balls in the deoiler.

In my experience it takes time and experimenting with layouts and ball types for a bowler to find what works best for them. This will also require lots of $$$ until you get it right.

Who is JR, and what video are they talking about?

Just throw hundreds of shots with both, compare strikes vs the 9th pin and the 10th pin lefts.. You'll have an idea of how much it impacts the game...

As a PSO, I generally consider layout primarily in terms of bowtie management and flare safety, and within that context, performance related layout adjustments available for that style. Layout matters a lot, for all bowlers. The most frustrating thing I hear in the shop is when a skilled high average bowler says "I want to overpower the lane, so move the pin up much higher than normal" (3" from the top of the finger grips on a 5.25" span) on a symm ball to make the ball stronger and quicker. This is just flat out incorrect. I agree with Pete.

I want to ask what is considered a low speed and low rev...how many mph es revs?

Great content here! Would really like to see throbot use a slightly lower ratio pattern (8:1 or so). Everthing looks very similar on easy house patterns; (strong covers burn up in the mids). Seems like most local weekend money tourneys use the 5:1 - 8:1 ratio patterns these days. Layouts on these ratios may matter more so!

Put enough oil on the lane, and every ball will do the same thing. JR was using the skid to show layouts don’t really matter, but neglected to tell you that the core is still doing what the layout dictates. When that ball hits friction, the position the core rotated into during the skid, matters enormously during the final hook and roll phases. If the core hits the friction laying down, the backend motion is going to different than if the core is completely upright or in a 45 degree position. Layout matters, it’s just not obvious to some people. But to be fair to JR, those people who can’t see it, are the peoplr he was talking about.

Two things I would like to see. One, is the proper ratio of the lane width and length on the ball path image. The 'hockey stick' shape is evident in the current path shape but is very different from a foul line view. Two, from Specto, is the actual board that the ball is on when it makes contact with the headpin (not the pocket). Where the rolling 15 pound ball contacts the 3 pound 6 ounce pin will determine its deflection.

Missed the live again.

Can’t wait to see the upside down layout with Nicks hammer ball.

It does matter! When you are not getting strikes. The type of cover on the bowling ball doesn’t matter when you are getting strikes.

To me this has been one of the best shows of perception vs.Reality Nick & Phil, off hand I am at 15.6 to 15.8 what would I be considered as or would a pin down be good for me. ? Thanks guys.. 17:23 hell yeah. My revs are like mark Wahlberg high 3’s low 4

Got tired of all the whinning when he isnt winning. I learned a lot from JR in the beginning and im sure he has a lot more i could learn from him. I just couldnt deal with the drama he keeps.

RIP Mo. You gave so much to this game. Hope you know how much we all appreciate it.

I never thought I'd see anyone talking about the rollout shot again.

Most young bowlers now just try to emulate what they see from touring pros. It's not the proper way to learn but that won't stop them. All they want to do is throw the ball as hard as possible with as much hook as possible. If they had to bowl with hard rubber, plastic, polyester, or even pancake weight block urethane, they'd be lost. Most touring pros are lost without resin or modern urethane equipment. Accuracy is a lost art, which is why most lane patterns now simply create a wall to the pocket.

Cool watching this. Always wondered why my pin was up and to the side and everyone else’s pin up is directly over the bridge damn near midpoint between the fingers with slight variation.

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To bowl on that much oil❤

The other John Furey here. Adding to the maintenance topic, if you use the balls they tend to crack less often. My theory is that the core is heavy and puts pressure on the coverstock which tends to be thinner. So I tell people to rotate the balls once in awhile if they aren’t going to be used for awhile.

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I stick mine in the sink with hot water maybe every other month. I don’t bowl as much as others. 2 leagues a week plus maybe one tournament a month. Maybe 30-35 games a month.

I stick mine in the sink with hot water maybe every other month. I don’t bowl as much as others. 2 leagues a week plus maybe one tournament a month. Maybe 30-35 games a month.

How many times can I hit the Surface with by hand before I negatively affect the bowl. My PSO day three for times? Your thoughts guys?

What do you think about the Pyramid Phoenix personal ball reviver?

its helpful in bowling to understand how exactly you and other people on your pair are changing the pattern from each shot. it’s extremely helpful in bowling to understand how exactly to change the pattern shot by shot to your advantage. don’t get mad at the guy throwing urethane on a fresh hard or short pattern. if hes in the right part of the lane it’s likely that he’s helping you by giving the pattern some shape / hold. adjust to it like you would typically when your ball skids too much: slower speed, stronger ball, make a move, etc. boom, now you have a little more room. get mad at the guy throwing urethane on a 230 scoring pattern. the lanes already have some shape/hold and the urethane is over exaggerating it.

Excellent content!! .. this is so important. Thanks guys!

I've personally had good luck with the dishwasher method. Now please note, no warranties, do at you own risk, ect. But if you do the eco wash and air dry, and know your water temp is under 130, it'll be fine. If your ball is absolutely saturated and your worried about oil residue in your dishwasher, set 1/2 cup of white vinegar in the top rack of the dishwasher. Not only will it break down the oil, it'll clean out deposits from your dishwasher. But no matter what, no high temp wash and air dry ONLY.

I have to disagree a bit here. The OOTB surface is made to look good on display at the pro shop. It is not an edict from God Almighty. A person at home is not going to replicate an industrial process... and given the huge range of actual OOTB surfaces for the exact same ball I have seen from some companies, they can't either :) . But seriously, neither a player nor a PSO has the same equipment that a factory has. They can get close-ish and that is all. Much better to resurface a ball to something you and/or your pro shop operator can reliably repeat, before you throw it the first time. If you want 500-1000-4000 + polish then just do that and ignore whatever the listed surface is. If all you have is some TruCut pads and ball cleaner do that, or have the PSO do that.

Have short pin layouts on a couple of balls. Did well with them at the right time.

DynaThane Vendetta one of my favorites

Missed the live. Dang it. Lol got my t-shirt thank you..

I bowl on wood lanes and one thing I have learned is that since the oil goes into the lanes, it will sweat out when it's really humid. So some days the lanes will be much slicker or stickier than other days, simply because of the moisture in the air and heat index. One example of this was league last week; Wednesday, my Xponent Pearl and Pitch Black ruled the night, however, on Thursday, I had to throw my spare ball all night because everything was just too aggressive in my bag! This was simply because it got super warm on Thursday and it had just finished storming out.

This is exactly the video I needed at exactly when I needed it. Thanks for providing an expert opinion!

Nice review. Love to see more of this!

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Do you remember the old neon green hex grips? I stored the ball in a cool dry place and the grips melted anyway 😂😂😂

You just sound like a very grumpy hateful person. It’s a damn game.

I would like to bring my grandson's ball for you to check it out . Are you in the Lansing ,MI area as we are in Northern Michigan. He got a new ball and it is running over the finger holes. He is a 2 handed bowler and new to Bowling.

If you lose the labels and serial number its no longer legal to comete in usbc

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