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Spend more on the tools that matter... but something like Ryobi has several tools that I prefer the ryobi version because the performance just doesn't matter. For something like a van, my ryobi glue gun, etc, the performance difference just isn't there and I save money on the tools.

The compact XR doesn't reach quite as high in terms of power as the M18 Fuel but in terms of power to weight ratio, the DCD800 with a 1.7ah power stack is a good combination as well.

Well, you are in luck. I have another later video that has that included as well as a few from Festool! czcams.com/video/jFOUSoy78b4/video.html

It's a great drill. I focused on the most requested for now. I've found that the more tools you include in a review, the video can get a bit bloated.

Well said! They are all good drills at this level.

Thanks. I agree about the Cadillac comment. That's a fitting description.

I agree. The compact XR is capable of doing quite a bit. Dewalt went with a 1-2 approach vs what Milwaukee is doing with one drill that does both roles.

That Bosch drill is no slouch. Really strong and while it's big and heavy, it's got really nice balance and ergonomics. As for the batteries, unless you have a source to purchase them, as far I as know, they have been announced in Europe but not yet in North America. Once they are out, I will likely get one to test.

Glad you liked it!

There are a lot of drills that could be included but I chose the most requested to keep the video from getting too bloated. There will be more testing coming so I am sure we will get it compared at some point.

Each drill was tested with the best battery that I own. While Bosch and Makita both have better batteries as I mentioned in the video, they are sold yet in my market (the BL4040F for Makita or the new Pro Core + for Bosch).

@@TinkerWithTools I understand, but you have been selling 5A and 8A batteries for a long time.And you didn't use the new high-power batteries on all the drills.makita and Bosch were in a losing position. The new devolt and Milwaukee drills appeared later than Makita and then new batteries that are one and a half times more powerful...the funny thing is that Makita has been producing such batteries for the second year and you couldn't buy them)) .You could take a 5A battery from a Makita, it also gives out the same power if you can't buy a new powerful 4A accumulator .It is necessary to perform the test on equal terms.I'm not saying to use an 8A battery)).Makita claims that her new 4A battery, with the same size and weight, produces one and a half times more power.I would like to see if it makes sense to buy it for a drill or if there will be no gain from it.Makita claims that the new battery performs well when cutting wood and metal, as well as drilling concrete with a large sds punch+

You are right that the 5ah battery is available and I am sure it would improve the performance of the drill. I would love to have every battery from every brand to be able to offer all the different combinations that you might encounter, but as a smaller CZcams channel, there is only so much budget to go around. I'll always attempt to give a tool its best chance at success within the constraints I have. Making a perfect apples to apples comparison across several brands will always be a challenge.

I’ll have some testing in a few weeks comparing this new drill to other DEWALT drills including the 996. It’s still a capable drill but technology and drill performance have come a long way since its release as well.

Each company is going to focus on something different. The Gen 4 Milwaukee is roughly the size of Dewalt’s compact XR Hammer drill but it has competitive power and features with their full size drill. I am curious to see what their drills and impact drivers will do with their new motor technology that they announced at pipeline this year.

@@TinkerWithTools i saw the new m12 stubby wrench at the pipeline, they doubled the number instead of reducing the size.. it supposed to be like that. we dont want smaller drill and driver anymore... we want power

What are you talking about its one of the strongest on the market and smallest

The camera adds a few pounds??? Kidding of course it is a thick drill.

Unless you are really pushing the 998 my guess is you won’t really notice the difference in the drills but with the decrease in length and the addition of their perform and protect it’s a nice modernization of the drill.

@TinkerWithTools agreed I'll keep my 998. One drill I really want to try is the flex

It’s strong and quick for sure.

Thanks!

I’ll have a video in a few weeks where you will see it.

I have not. Never been able to get over the sticker shock.

My bad on the anti-kickback. Thanks for correcting. As the battery, it’s annoying to know there are newer tools and batteries and just not have Makita release them. With their recent performance in North America I don’t see it changing any time soon.

@@TinkerWithTools let's hope they will come sooner than later :)

@@TinkerWithTools The 4040F battery has been on sale in Russia for six months and maybe more, and new grinders with a capacity of 2100 watts are also on sale.Strangely, the 4040F was released a year ago. This is the very first battery of such power, and the rest began to make them only now, but you still don't have it.

And there is no word of when we will have it. Bosch also has tabless cells announced in Europe but no word from Bosch North America yet. Hopefully we get both at some point.

@@TinkerWithTools yeah the interesting part is that the gen2 xgt grinder that was released at the same time is already available in the US market but none of the US outlets have tested or mentioned it. There must be some regulatory hurdles with the 4040F but I am not sure.

Thanks!

It’s a strong combination.

It’s does well. For a first effort it’s really impressive!

Flex is based on competing with Milwaukee in the future flex could possibly surpass Milwaukee in power and popularity as that’s kinda their mission lol

The last remaining advantage to 12v is really just the weight of the battery. Unless you are Milwaukee and then they have some really unique tools that make that platform appealing.

I think I would feel the 15" is too big but I have loved this one so I am not surprised.

The 996 is a little bit lighter but over the same dimensions as the 999. The 999 with a 9ah flex volt battery is heavier than this drill on its new battery though.

For smaller anchors yes. Something larger might require some patience. How big of while do you imagine needing. I just wouldn’t expect to be making half inch holes very much.

@@TinkerWithTools I can't say, Just trying to gauge what would be possible and what wouldn't. I'm thinking more like 1/4" tops. Last time I did blinds I used 5/32" and I'm not sure if I was going through a metal or concrete lintel but it was a bear. I'm thinking for 1/2" I would need a full size drill (with a handle)? As far as the DCD805, would it have similar limitations but just be faster? Thanks again.

The 805 will be stronger than the DCD799 but it will could be limited on the really big stuff. That being said, the sizes you are talking about should be fine with either.

I have nothing concrete to show this, but in my testing the triple hammer does well up until about 5" and then it will start losing out to other impacts in terms of speed. It can still do the job but you sometimes get strange performance. But I love it on small to medium fasteners.

I have not experienced that. If you know the video, let me know.

The 999 with the 9ah battery is actually heavier than this.

But I did notice the 999 on sale at my local Home Depot. Just to the tool only though.

amazon has the dcd999 with 6.0 ah flexvolt for 230.

If you could get the Festool kit for $189 and can handle the noise... then that is what I would pick, but that would be mostly based on terms of refinement of the tool. Festool tools are nice to use and it's why people pay outrageous sums of money for them and the system that they reside in.

@@TinkerWithTools Thank you! That's very helpful because, if they were both $189, you're essentially picking the refinement of the Festool over the power of the DeWALT, but because you mentioned the lower price point. I'm basically coming back to considering a Festool because I recently purchased a UJK Parf Guide Mark II jig to build my own 2096 benchtop. And while I know I will be clamping it down when I start drilling the pilot holes, I was looking at the 3mm drill bit and the 20mm cutter and noticed they are built for the Centrotec system which as you know, among other things, reduces runout/wobble. And while most people appear overwhelmingly happy with the Parf Guide Mark II jig, once in awhile people are running into accuracy issues as it is essential to lay these holes out as precisely as possible to get as close to CNC accuracy as possible, and in one case the person claimed he couldn't get to the bottom of the inaccuracy issue even working with Axminster's engineers to see what went wrong. I don't think it is a stretch that most people are using Festool drills making these products, so now I am a little worried I might be investing all this money on the Parf Guide Mark II only to ruin a very expensive piece of 18mm plywood. Peter Parfitt, who invented the system along with the engineers at Axminster Tools said that he uses the original CXS to build most of his desktops with the Parf Guide system, but in his videos I only see him using it for the pilot holes; he uses one of Festool's $600+ Cordless percussion QUADRIVE drills to drill out the 20mm holes (but I will take him at his word that often uses the CXS for this purpose). Either way, he's also always drilling/cutting into MDF and not plywood. I guess I am wondering if a CXS might somehow yield better results than my 12v or my 20v DeWALT DCD999 hammer drill/driver. Those are my only two options at the moment. Heck, maybe I should be looking at the CXS 18 or even the older C 18 for the extra power. The C 18 is also quieter like the original CXS. If you were building a 2096 bench with a Parf Guide Mark II guide, what would you probably use?

I have considered getting the part guide a time or two but the price has always deterred me so I get that you want to be as accurate as possible if that is the direction that you are going. obviously when it comes to stuff like chuck wobble and such, I am not set up to test precision, but if you are using centrotec bits, that system excels at that. 20mm holes with the CXS 12 would be possible, but I would be susprised if someone is using the old CXS as the primary tool, I would be surprised. But who knows. I just wasn't a fan of that tool in 2022 when I bought it for the price that I paid for it. If I were doing this my self, I would probably use the CXS 12 or something like the Metabo (German, not Metabo HPT) that I featured on the channel a while back. That drill offers a good level of precision on refinement. One consideration that I don't know if you have looked into would be see if someone would rent you CNC time to do it. While there would be a cost associated with that, I am guessing that it would be less expensive that the Parff guide plus a CXS 12 if that is the route you would go. Just food for thought.

Dewalt doesn't list Torque figures. They use Unit Watts Out, which this one had about a 25% increase over the prior generation DCD999. That drill was competitive but not the top leader. With the increase I would say this one is near top of the market in terms of real world torque.

They are certainly throwing haymakers as the year goes on. Milwaukee pipeline shows some promising stuff as well so it will be interesting to see who "wins" the year when it's over.

I think with time my opinion is largely the same in terms of the tools. They are a big step in terms of performance. They have good enough quality in terms of not breaking (but I have a warranty with easy replacement if they do) and they are a small step behind in terms of safety tech and fit and finish. What has changed for me is that they now combo kits, promo pricing etc that make them a more compelling value.

Are you talking about this video with the 18v drills? Or in my other installation drill video?

Sorry, I went back to the wrong video to make my comment! I meant to post this on the wonderful Installation Drill Showdown video!

No worries, I figured it might have been meant of the other video. I have responded there.

Is it necessary? No it's not. But yes it really is that much brighter. I haven't tried a view of the tools that feature the halo light (masterforce has one I think) but this is the brightest tool light have tried. While it's not necessary, I do enjoy and would prefer my tools have it.

So what is it that you already have? Makita?

@@TinkerWithTools no..ive got a ton of milwaukee tools. Ive bought quite a few duplicates in Flex. I bought all the kits i could as stack lithium kits...turbo drill, impacters...saws, router, grinder etc. Never had a single issue with anything from Flex. I have also bought a few items from Hercules from harbor freight their metal band saw being one. Again no problems. I use their fan and 12v recip saw at work daily. Well worth their price especially since i wait for sales. Hercules batteries are the real shocker....theyre really good. Not one single failure. Milwaukee batteries bought during covid failed at a 50% rate. Ive lost half my m18 batteries! I will not buy any more....and especially not from home depot. I tell everyone every time i get a chance. Check your date of manufacturer date and save your receipt!!! And probably not pay cash either. Cards can be tracked in their system so you might have proof of purchase dates.

Okay, trying to unpack each question so let me know if I miss one. The triple hammer is a nicer, more versatile impact driver. I really like it up to a certain size of fastener (5-6 inches and below really). It has better lighting, the different modes, etc. The impact in the 130 kit surprised me and if it's all you know, it's not a bad impact. The drill in that kit thought, I actually really like. If the money is something you can swing, it is the nice combo to get the drill and the triple hammer, but if you would rather not spend the money, the $130 kit isn't terrible. If I have learned anything about Metabo HPT, it's that once you have batteries and chargers, you can typically swing some deals and sales to deepen your commitment to the platform in a more price effective way than other brands. As for IP56. It's a rating system that rates tools on their protection against the ingress of water and dust. There are videos out there when you can see how this is tested but basically, some rain on it won't kill the tool. I have seen people dunk it in a bucket of water, but I would necessarily recommend that.

Thanks for your reply again. I feel like maybe I'm asking too many questions here (lol), so I just wanted to let you know I've reached a decision on what to buy. And it is all thanks to your videos. At first, I wanted the M18 compact drill kit. Then I got curious about the MHPT from your video and researched it. I soon learned that the value on the kits is simply unbeatable. It seems like Metabo HPT is just a SMALL step below the big 3 in quality/design/reliability and perhaps near equal in performance. So for the prices, none of the big 3 come anywhere close in terms of value. So. I have decided to get the drill driver kit (no impact, two 2.0Ah's, charger, bag) for $99 from CPO Outlet. Why there? I found a $10 off coupon to use, bringing the pre-tax total to $89 w/ free shipping. AND, I will also buy the Triple Hammer Bolt kit (two more 2.0Ah's, upgraded FAN charger, and hard case) for $179 from Lowe's. Best coupon I can find for Lowe's is $5 off (lol), bringing the pre-tax total to $174 (free ship). So all total, before taxes I'm in it for $263 before taxes. So around $280 total. But look at everything I will get. A very nice drill, possibly the BEST impact (for the money) on the market, FOUR 2.0Ah batteries, a basic charger, a FAN charger, tool bag, AND a hard plastic carrying case. Dewalt, Milwaukee, or Makita can't come anywhere near that in terms of value. People are sleeping on Metabo HPT/Hitachi. Let them sleep. The smart people will get the best deal from team green because of their blind addiction to mustard and ketchup. And... whatever food is teal in color.

No worries about the questions. Just wanted to make sure I didn’t miss any. The one piece of advice I’ll give is to eventually get yourself some of the multivolt batteries. You can score them for cheap and they really make the drill and impact run better. Great for tougher jobs.

I get that the milwaukee is a lighter and smaller drill, but its really the exception in this segment. That's good for them if lightweight is what you want, but how the Dewalt compares to Flex, Bosch etc... I don't feel it's considerably larger.

Glad they proved helpful!