I Wasn't Expecting to Like This Drill At All! Bosch's New Compact Hammer Drill
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- čas přidán 5. 04. 2024
- When Bosch announced their new Compact Hammer Drill at World of Concrete - I thought it sounded kind of weak to be honest. I even forgot they announced it. But when I finally got my hands on it, I am kind of surprised at how much I like it! The GSB18V-800C really seems to be a nice step forward!
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My dad was in HVAC for 40 years and always ran Bosch cordless. It was the only brand he didn't have to replace on a yearly basis from wear and tear. That's given me an affinity for Bosch. I still predominantly run Milwaukee due to the depth of their lineup, but I do love the Bosch tools that I have. Their level of refinement is perhaps only bested by Makita.
There are other too like the Metabo drills are pretty nice too but you are right.
Good comment Matthew
I swear only HVAC guys use Bosch😂😂
Said it a few videos ago, this is by far the best subcompact drill on the market. Has all the features in a tiny package. 😬👌
When I initially saw the announcement at world of concrete, I was honestly rather unimpressed and even when I ordered it, I don't think I was necessarily all that excited. I don't think I that I am ready to say it's absolutely the best drill in the segment, but you can really do a lot worse and there are almost no other tools that have all of the features this one has. The 565 in-lbs really doesn't sound like a ton but in this drill it seems to work quite well.
A compact drill or hammer drill pushing out 2100 rpm in Speed 2 is quite impressive. Nice video!
Thanks!
the best compact drill of the market , safety, confort, ergo, finition.
Especially the FC version thit the sds chuck.
I have considered getting the FC version and upgrading on my older Flexiclick that I have. I assume any attachments are compatible with both.
I think the 800 makes total sense. In the past Bosch used that last sequence of the part number to designate torque. And an acquaintance who imports Bosch tools from Europe told me the International version GSB18V-90C was initially designed as 90Nm (translates to roughly 800 in-lbs) but once released they only claimed 64Nm or the 565 in-lbs here. He mentioned something about liabilities as that higher number would've needed an aux handle or something like that (don't quote me on that) but now that I see it side by side with the 975C which I own it makes total sense it was indeed 800 in-lbs but Bosch ended up underrating its numbers on paper.
Same thing happened with their mid torque impact wrench GDS18V-330 which has such low numbers on paper (like the Dewalt DCF894 I owned a few years ago) but in practice it's torque numbers are up there with Milwaukee mid torque
Interesting information. The model number through me as well because most of them really have been the torque figure. So perhaps it's a bit of a sleeper. Based on performance I really think that it's a bit of a leap from their previous more compact models.
I think it sounded good and performed well. 😊
I Subscribed. Thanks for this comparison, it was really helpful. Great channel!
Thanks!
I recently got the FC version of this drill. I like it, feels like it has enough power as a general use drill around the house. I'm pretty intrigued by the 12V Bosch stuff though, looks super compact and light, especially the FC.
I have the first 18v flexiclick and i generally like it. I like this newer drill so think at some point I’ll try the FC but just haven’t wanted to pay for it enough.
In easten Europe, where I am from - Bosch was the best known and sort of the most reputable power-tool brand for decades. The other brand was Makita, but Boshes were more available and widespread, as being european. Every builder, plumber, carpenter, serious DIY'er - knew and coveted those two brands.
Well, Hilti as well - but they were very expensive and symomious only for huge electric demolition hammers (which everone just called Hilties, just like in the US people call vaccum cleaners - Hoovers). Only in the recent years Dewalt and Milawukee become available here.
I never got on the Bosch 18V lineup when I started buying tools for myself, becouse 6-7 years ago - they really looked a bit underpowered and overall unimpressive, compared to others. But in the recent years they got out some rellay nice tolls, especially the BiTurbo line.
Their 12V line is a different story - I felt in love with it with the first small 12V installation drill-drivers my dad bought some 15-20 years ago.
They have some winners in the the lineup for sure. The 12v installation drill driver is really nice.
I have a soft spot for Bosch tools as the first power tool I ever bought was a Bosch corded drill which still use today. My first cordless Bosch drill I got by accident when my wife confused the Bosch with Ryobi (the one I asked for when they still were dark blue in color) for my birthday present. I was going to return it as I thought I didn't need anything that "fancy" but once I tried it I was smitten and have bought many Bosch tools since.
I have that same soft spot for Metabo HPT since it was my first power tools. Still have a lot of their tools and love them. The Bosch is great as well.
Seems like a great little drill, hopefully some deals on it soon so can pick one up. They do need to step up their impact drivers, just not on par with the other brands. Awesome reviews as always.
Thanks.
I also have Bosch and I agree with you 12:23 they make quality tools as far as durable and whatnot they always seem to be underpowered and thier marketing dept. is clownish. Nobody is on a jobsite bragging about thier "hitman" rotary hammer or thier "freak " impact which every version they've come out with has been a disappointment to me. Why release a new version that has less rpm and only 60in pds or so more torque? I digress, another excellent video sir, you are the best in my opinion on you tube you never let your ego get in the way and just give us what we want to see. Some these guys really think they world renowned or something. Have a good one bro.
I think the marketing was just a case of feeling like they needed something catchy since the sales in the US haven't been as good. When I first heard the name the Freak, I thought it was cool but then I completely lost track of what the others were supposed to be called.
Excellent point(s) taken and good comment! Goes along with my comment. Peace
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Kidding Kidding!!! 😃🙄😂 Cabinet Shop I installed for many many moons ago, liked Bosch a lot, and a few of the guys used the drills, and they were well made, except when they had that weird liaison with Skil. 🙄
Having said that, You could not take away my Bosch 5 inch ROS ( corded ) nor my 3&1/4 electric planer from me! I also own and love the 18 volt version of the 5 inch ROS. Same goes for my corded and 18 volt cordless Bosch Multi tools!
Great Content bruh Stay safe! 👍✌💪🇺🇸
Thanks George. Yeah, I really liked it more than I thought I would. As for the sander, I had that Bosch sander and loved it. I broke the dust collector bin and didn't want to pay $30 bucks to replace it so I ended up just getting the cordless model instead and love it as well.
I am sure this drill will find its true space mine sure did at first thst really was not the case my idh182 thats different that was picking up popularity even though it was on the market for some years by then
there is going to be a flexiclick model of this drill also i have the drill driver version and its awesome but i cant wait to get the flexiclick version
There is a flexiclick version out now. It's pricey though. $399 at acme tools is the only place I found it in the US. The model number is GSR18V-800FCB24 for the kit.
Inconsequently... This drill also is 800!! Just like DCD800 huh! But yeah, has hammer function!
I always check up Bosch tools every RONA visit (Canadian Lowes equivalent) and they feel really good and well made. Mainly, their 'freak' impact driver looks really useful but I haven't encountered anything that really needs impact wrench. Having a 1/4" hex to 1/2" or 3/8" socket was enough for me. Even changing wheels on my car.
But yeah, I'll try out the Freak and a drill comes with it someday.
The freak for me is a case of a really cool concept but something that just falls flat in the execution. The 1/2" square drive is outperformed by the 1/4" collet with an adapter typically and in my own videos, I just have it found it to be good enough either as an impact driver or an impact wrench to do away with having two dedicated tools. I really want to love it... but it's got to pack more power if it's going to be as big as is, in my opinion. Bosch really nails it with their drills it seems but I wish they would give us something similar in the impact market.
Bosch is the originator of kick back control on cordless drills.
When we get away from the spec sheet, as You say, ergonomics and ease of use, and the ‘sound’ of a tool have an impact on its use. From the sound I heard in your testing, the 800C sounded really good. The 2 bigger drills sounded Ok, but I have handled those in person, and didn't care for them? I have not seen the 800C in person.
I will say, IMO, the ‘CORE’ line of batteries, and even the ones before, are some of the best in the industry!
The 5 segment battery gauge is commendable, ( did you hear that DeWalt? ) and is useful.
Bosch seems to struggle, but it is mostly their own doing; Poor Marketing, and failure to innovate and update their tool line. Of course Lowe’s doesn’t do them any favors. It seems they are slowly ‘trying’ to make Bosch go away? In my local store The Bosch section is almost ‘hidden’ away, back behind all the other brands. Anyhoo…. Take it easy, stay safe, and keep on keeping on!
I agree that Lowes isn't doing them any favors. I feel the same way with their treatment of Metabo HPT.
Put it up Against the MILWAUKEE M18 BRUSHLESS 3601-20 or the HAMMER DRILL VERSION
It will be going up against the non-hammer drill version of that Milwaukee and then several other drill drivers/hammer drills in that segment.
Great mid-range drill it seems. If only it included the angle detect like the 1330, it would be a immediate purchase for me. Great video as always!
Yeah the precision clutch is okay but ultimately is a quality of life improvement for me not a functional improvement. I wonder how much space the angle detection would impact the size of the drill.
@@TinkerWithTools that’s a good point on size, maybe they considered it but it would have compromised the compactness.
Another quality review, I did notice a weird effect on your video cuts. Looking closely there is a rolling band on the footage no doubt from the florescent tubes I can see in the reflection. You can probably change the shutter speed or change the lights to correct it. The video also shows as 24fps, assuming your using the ZV-10 that camera is dual frame rate (NTSC/PAL) so there is no true 24fps just a frame pull down of 30fps resulting in the 23.98. You are better off setting it for native NTSC mode.
Thanks for the tip. The effect was likely due to another overhead light that is in that room. Sometimes I forget to turn it over during filming.
I just discovered that they have a gen 2 18V flexiclick in Germany which also has anti kickback. I am waiting for them to release that over here. I do need one where I can connect with sds attachment and it just makes more sense with the 18v cousin.
You can get the gen 2 now from acme tools. It’s pricey but it is out.
@@TinkerWithTools how does the old model work with its anti kickback?
The older bosch Anti-kickback works but it's not as refined as what you see on the newer tools. You will find it activating sometimes but what you jerk to the tool to try and induce it, you really have to exaggerate it to activate. So it's there, but the new tool is better.
@@TinkerWithTools sounds like the RFC. The new one has the option to turn it off with the press of a button.
Bosch 1330c owner here. I'd say i kinda like the feel of the drill in my hand rather than dewalt, milwaukee. My only downside for 1330c is the weight it's a heavy drill not meant to use for overhead drilling😅 but besides that i really like it, it has a power and it is super smooth to use. But i really wanted to buy a hilti cordless drill for my end game drill but i feel like i don't need it for now because the 1330c is serving me well i've use it to drill 16 and 20mm in concrete and 150mm hole saw for wood and 16mm auger bit and 20mm for metal
Its weight and its size are really the only cons to that drill. It's a really nice tool in my opinion. This one feels to be cut from the same cloth just not as big and powerful. There is a lot to like about it.
@@TinkerWithTools yeah it is very nice drill. When i'am using it i feel like despite of it's size and weight i feel like i'am in full control of the drill plus the Anti kickback makes me have a peace of mind that it won't break my wrist due to its enormous power. And as i said it is very smooth to operate with we have just need to get use to the weight and size that is why i don't use it on small drilling size or not requiring me to have powerful drill hehe.
Some Lowe's stores do have an expanded lineup of Bosch tools.
Mine has a decent lineup but it’s almost always on deep sale, they recently got rid of the 12v stuff in stores and it keeps getting relegated further and further away from prime placement.
@TinkerWithTools that's weird. In my closest store Bosch has 16ft of space closest to the ProDesk. Disappointing that the 12V seems to be getting scaled back. As I dont see Lowe's having a replacement offering in 12V. Maybe Skil?
Other Lowe's stores only have 8ft of space. But those seem to be stores with less of a focus in Pros and more of a focus in DIYers. Which is a shame because for the money Bosch Tools are extremely durable and rugged. They will take a beating and keep running.
I think the 12v is mostly lost out to Dewalt's 12v lineup. Skill has.a small endocarp (strangely with better placement than their 20v stuff) but it's not taking up much space.
@@TinkerWithTools which is a shame because Bosch has more 12V tools that DeWalt does. But the glaring omission in the Bosch 12V offering is the ratchet.
Well as someone who for years used older DeWalt Nicad power tools starting with 14.4 v in 94 my first hammer drill was a DW 997 I think it had 425 inch pounds of torque that was a big deal back then forgot bpm on that model have it put away but yes I own that gsb18v-490 with gdx18v-1800. + Two 4.0 core batteries I got a good deal at my local Lowe's it was on Clarence because of damaged box that's it tools perfect condition nothing wrong only paid like $170.00 no tax the manger said so i took my savings that got a Bosch spot light circular saw came with free 4.0 ah starter pack charger .( 8.0 core kit got it for $125 I think the manger that day was high or drunk 😂 I don't care got me a nice set of tools cheap to me ... I mean yes my Bosch journey started in 2018 ...was giving Ridgid a try
Yeah, I have managed to get onto a few platforms with similar stuff to that.
@@TinkerWithTools I have noticed that I just can't afford to do that I have to stick with him what I have I can't afford a luxury of having play full of different brand power cordless I may have a few corded tools that's different if I was get back on the other brands I had over the years since my DeWalt 18 v Nicad days I would own 3 other brands Milwaukee Makita and end some Ryobi blue I keep the DeWalt because I spent a a nice amount of money to rebuild them all tell me if someone offered me a nice amount of money with the adapter fully function in 100% as they should be
Currently im on Makita lxt but i was planning adding second battery platform. Which one you recommend this or metabo dv18DEX?
I should be having a head to head with that one next week that will answer it definitively. Both function well but this feels more well built.
Wish bosch would step up their game in north america, they have a huge line up that no one here carries, which sucks cause there tools are nice to use.
I wish we had full access to all tool lineups but something tells me that they would love to dominate the US market but perhaps don’t see it as the best investment in time and money.
The issue is Depot. In order to get placement in Depot. You have to sell your soul to them. As TTI has. Or have two different model numbers for almost every tool, like DeWalt has. So that they can sell simultaneously in Depot and Lowe's. And not run afoul of Depot. Makita made the mistake of jumping in with both feet in Depot and it seems to have cost them dearly.
@@TinkerWithTools same, I'd love for bosch to bring over everything.. ..and.. metabo hpt and makita
@joelrodriguez9661 interesting, I guess makita isnt locked into depot anymore, they sell makita at tractor supply now
@@evildead1791 yeah I've seen them at my local TSC.
Why is the 490 beating the 535? I own both and I know there’s not much difference in power between them but still..
It beat it is on a few of the driving tests but overall in the driving tests there was less than a second difference between the two. With their specs being so close, it's likely that none of the driving tests really pushed the drills to their limits in speed 2. With the drilling tests, you got to see the 535 have a little bit more of an advantage in some of the larger bits that require a little more torque.
Børscht may not be that widespread in the US but in Europe they are pretty much the de facto industrial standard. DeFault just came to Europe like 6-8 years ago, Milfuckee about 5 years ago, and they both sell for much more than in the US, especially the red which is at least 2 times more expensive for the same tools.
And the grey/black Flex is, unfortunately, completely nonexistent in EU, much to my dismay.
I have family in Germany right now and the two top brands of power tools they see are Bosch and the German Metabo. We face some of the same import pricing I feel like on German hand tools that you might be seeing on Milwaukee and Dewalt there. Stuff that is relatively affordable there is more of a premium price here.
@@TinkerWithTools I compared prices of Bosch drills in USA and in Germany and similar drills actually cost less in USA than in Germany. Because metric systems are different in USA ( inches to pound) and Germany ( newtons to meter) hence similar models have different numbers. For example if we convert 1330 inches to pounds into N/m we will get 150 hence US model GSR 18v-1330 is equivalent to German model GSR 18V-150. This model cost around 200 euro in Germany but on US Amazon it was recently 150 dollars. Also Euro is more expensive than dollar.
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You can email tinkerwithtools@gmail.com
Bosch makes quality rugged tools. But their North American marketing department sucks.
I can agree with that. Those focus to much on unique names but don’t back enough performance to make those names standout.
Me personally just not a fan of Bosch tools, they just haven’t done enough to keep up with the big dogs
What would you like to see from them? Do the tools not perform? Or is it that they dont have a broader offering of tools?
@@joelrodriguez9661 they definitely need a better range of tools, the battery system is weak compared to the other brands and so is the performance
@@glenarseneau1231I disagree about performance (every brand has their duds) but the lineup is definitely more limited than some other pro brands. They're catching up, though.
@@engineer_alv as a plumber it would be nice to see some tools for my field
@glenarseneau1231 when you say the battery system is weak. Could you elaborate? Do you mean the batteries themselves are weak? Or is it that there aren't enough tools for you in the cordless platform?
To me the performance of the batteries are right up there with the competition.