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Manx rally CRASH aftermath... PART 2 - EP_05 MRC - MANX RALLY VLOG 24
Well yes, We had rather a big off on the Friday night of the Manx... But, Day 2 saw us manage to get back out. Check it out above.
Part 02 of 2 of the Manx National Rally 2024, Round 3/4 of the Mini rally challenge.
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INSTA - @Jacobnealrally @Russelthompsonrally
00:00 WHIPZ INTRO
00:12 ON FRIDAY, WE CRASH
02:27 RECOVERY ATTEMPT 1
02:57 BACK TO THE CRASH SITE
05:19 WE GOT RECOVERED (2ND TRY)
07:26 FINALLY BACK IN SERVICE
08:06 WE RESTART ON SS13
10:29 FINAL 2 STAGES
10:50 CREW FINISH & MRC PODIUMS
11:48 MANX ROUND UP
13:36 FOUND A BOOST PROBLEM?!
13:55 EXCUSES EXCUSES :p
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We CRASHED at the MANX RALLY... PART 1 - EP_04 MRC - MANX RALLY VLOG 24
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Well yes, We had rather a big off on the Friday night of the Manx... Part 01 of 2 of the Manx National Rally 2023, Round 3/4 of the Mini rally challenge. Like & Subscribe for more upcoming season content!! INSTA - @Jacobnealrally @Russelthompsonrally 00:00 WHIPZ INTRO 00:15 ON THE LAST EPISODE 00:32 3 WEEKENDS TILL THE MANX... 00:53 ENGINE SWAP TIME 02:55 MANX RALLY TIME 03:28 OUR FIRST RECCE 0...
ENGINE BLEW!!! EP_03 ANGLESEY RALLY 24 VLOG
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ENGINE BLEW.... Round 02 of the 2024 Mini rally challenge. The SMC stages in Angelsey. Sadly, not the rally the pairing hoped for, with engine failure on SS4. Like & Subscribe for more upcoming season content!! INSTA - @Jacobnealrally @Russelthompsonrally 00:00 WHIPZ INTRO 00:15 ON THE LAST EPISODE 00:25 SMC RALLY TIME 01:16 RALLY DAY 01:41 SS1 03:06 SS2 04:09 SS3 05:52 COOLANT BLOWS 06:05 SS4 ...
EP_02 MRC - SMC RALLY CAR PREP - Electrical PROBLEMS & New Clutch time!
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RALLY PREP on the run-up to Round 2 of the 2024 Mini rally challenge. The SMC stages in Angelsey, 14/04/23. Lots of prep is needed following RD_01 in the forest of north Wales. Jacob cracks on, trying to solve electrical gremlins that occurred right after finishing the last rally... Also changing clutch, alternator, space cylinder... AND a NEW CAR purchase! Full Rally vlog on the SMC stages to ...
ON THE BAR - RALLY handbrake compilation #001 Rally north wales 2024
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All the Hydraulic handbrake moments from - Rally North Wales 16/02/24 - Round 1 of the 2024 Mini rally challenge. Like & Subscribe for more upcoming season content!! INSTA - @Jacobnealrally @Russelthompsonrally Jacob and Russell back out on the gravel once again for the start of the 2024 season in the MRC. Returning in their championship-winning car, This time however with a freshly swapped R53...
EP_01 MRC - RALLY NORTH WALES 24 VLOG - New year, New season, NEW ENGINE. R50 TO R53 Rally car
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Rally North Wales 16/02/24 - Round 1 of the 2024 Mini rally challenge. Jacob and Russell back out on the gravel once again for the start of the 2024 season in the MRC. Returning in their championship-winning car, This time however with a freshly swapped R53 mini cooper S engine. With no time to test, the rally is the first time the pair get to experience the power difference after last year's s...
RD_10 Mini Rally Challenge_BONNET FLEW UP!
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[RE UPLOADED] FINAL ROUND OF 2023 - Cadwell Park rally, November. The Final Mini round of the 2023 season. Quite an eventful final round... - NEAL & THOMPSON - OVERALL R50 CHAMPIONS - OVERALL R50 GRAVEL - RUNNERS UP TARMAC Like and subscribe for more upcoming 2024 content!! Insta - @Jacobnealrally 00:00 WHIPZ INTRO 00:12 CADWELL INTRO 00:50 FIRST STAGE OF THE DAY 02:05 SERVICE 1 03:00 SS3 BONNE...
RD_07 Mini Rally Challenge_TRACKROD RALLY YORKSHIRE 23_ PART 2
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TRACKROD RALLY YORKSHIRE 23 - Our most looked-forward-to event of the year, The 2023 Trackrod Rally Yorkshire! Running the Full event alongside the Mini challenge portion, this was our first full gravel event of the year, and our first-ever night stage. Great event, thank you Trackrod MC. Like and subscribe for more upcoming season content!! Insta - @Jacobnealrally 00:00 WHIPZ INTRO 00:10 LATER...
RD_07 Mini Rally Challenge_TRACKROD RALLY YORKSHIRE 23_ PART 1_ OUR FIRST EVER NIGHT STAGE
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TRACKROD RALLY YORKSHIRE 23 - Our most looked-forward-to event of the year, The 2023 Trackrod Rally Yorkshire! Running the Full event alongside the Mini challenge portion, this was our first full gravel event of the year, and our first-ever night stage. Great event, thank you Trackrod MC. We are looking for partners to help support our 24 campaign, For those interested get in touch using the be...
RD_06 Mini Rally Challenge_ BIGGEST MOMENT YET... NEARLY ROLLED
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Biggest moment of the year this one... A lucky episode at the Garteh hall rally in the Bala ranges. Thank you to those who supported us on this event, you know who you are! Like and subscribe for more upcoming season content!! Insta - @Jacobnealrally Facebook - JacobNealRally Mini Rally challenge - groups/26203... 00:00 WHIPZ INTRO 00:10 RALLY PREP 00:52 RALLY YORKSHIR...
RD_5 Mini Rally Challenge_GREYSTOKE RALLY 23 VLOG_EP 07
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Better late than never all, Jacob and Russell vlog out once again, This time on RD_05 of the 23 Mini rally challenge. With a very muddy, bumpy Grestoke forest rally, In North Cumbria. Like & Subscribe for more upcoming season content!! INSTA - @Jacobnealrally @Russelthompsonrally Facebook - JacobNealRally Next round, September 22/23 Rally Yorkshire. Gravel once again. Insta - @Jaco...
RD_4 Mini Rally Challenge_PLAINS RALLY 23 VLOG_EP 06
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Plains Rally stages 20/05/23 - Round 4 of the 2023 Mini rally challenge. Jacob and Russell back out on the gravel once again. With a very dusty, but clean run for the pair. Another Wicked event. Like & Subscribe for more upcoming season content!! INSTA - @Jacobnealrally @Russelthompsonrally Facebook - JacobNealRally Next round, July 2nd, Greystoke. Gravel Once again. Insta - @Jacob...
Jacob Neal / Russel Thompson - PLAINS_SS4 Llangower 1 (5.31 km)_ RD4 Mini Rally challenge 23
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Plains Rally 20/05/23 - Round 4 of the 2023 Mini rally challenge. Insta - @Jacobnealrally Facebook - JacobNealRally Mini Rally challenge - groups/26203... Jacob and Russel out on SS4 - Llangower. The pair's 2nd time out on the gravel together in the Mini-challenge, and the Best time out in a rally car the paring have ever had. - Bringing home the mini rally challenge R...
RD_3 Mini Rally Challenge_DST Leconfield VLOG_EP 05
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DST Leconfield stages 30/04/23 - Round 3 of the 2023 Mini rally challenge. First challenging event of the year, struggling with brake issues car all day. Jacob and Russell survived a troubled day. The pairing started losing the brakes on SS1 and again on SS2. Mechanics Matt and Joe overhauled the system after SS2, finding the front brake callipers jammed on, causing the fluid to boil. Draining ...
RD_2 Mini Rally Challenge_SMC STAGES 23 VLOG_EP 04
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SMC stage 16/04/23 - Round 2 of the 2023 Mini rally challenge. The pair's first time out on the tarmac together and first single venue event. Like & Subscribe for more upcoming season content!! INSTA - @Jacobnealrally @Russelthompsonrally Facebook - JacobNealRally A great first event on the tar, with some good laughs along the way. Finishing 2nd in class at the end of the day, gett...
Jacob Neal / Russel Thompson - SMC STAGES 23 SS8_ RD2 Mini Rally challenge 23
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Jacob Neal / Russel Thompson - SMC STAGES 23 SS8_ RD2 Mini Rally challenge 23
Jacob Neal / Russel Thompson - RNW_SS3 Big Ray_ RD1 Mini Rally challenge 23
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Jacob Neal / Russel Thompson - RNW_SS3 Big Ray_ RD1 Mini Rally challenge 23
RD_1 Mini Rally challenge_Rally North Wales 23 VLOG_ EP 03
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RD_1 Mini Rally challenge_Rally North Wales 23 VLOG_ EP 03
Gravel testing prep & Disaster... MINI Rally Challenge 2023 EP 02
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Gravel testing prep & Disaster... MINI Rally Challenge 2023 EP 02
First shakedown of 2023! Testing the New RALLY car 👀👀 Mini Rally challenge 2023 EP 01
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First shakedown of 2023! Testing the New RALLY car 👀👀 Mini Rally challenge 2023 EP 01
Polo86c 16v AFH - Javelin sprint series R6 - Anglesey circuit - J13 class WIN
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Polo86c 16v AFH - Javelin sprint series R6 - Anglesey circuit - J13 class WIN
Polo86c 16v AFH - Javelin sprint series R2 - Byton park outer
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Polo86c 16v AFH - Javelin sprint series R2 - Byton park outer

Komentáře

  • @MIEJ4
    @MIEJ4 Před 15 dny

    Pro tip - if running late, nav should be out running to control and you’d be surprised how often you get away with it. Failing that they can be there waiting for car to appear and hand time card over as soon as the car is nearby and struggling to squeeze into the queue...

  • @excossack
    @excossack Před 24 dny

    Another 30-45mins of time and the recovery crew would have had you pretty much out and back on the road. Maybe see you September or next year.

  • @fabokavrs
    @fabokavrs Před měsícem

    Like you say in the video, really shows the lack of suspension travel. Be good if you can show the amount of increased travel when you get the R53 setup. Love the videos, keep them coming.

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 28 dny

      Bumpy bumpy hey! Yes, I'll try do some before and after figures to do the comparison. I'll see what I can get done for the next video! THANKS FOR TUNING IN MATE, MUCH APPRECIATED ❤️

  • @guybutler6406
    @guybutler6406 Před měsícem

    We ❤ you!

  • @brianroyle2533
    @brianroyle2533 Před měsícem

    Love watching your progress (even through the fence !) get that suspension sorted and dont worry about running a little high in ride height than you think is it right

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 28 dny

      Legend,Thank you! Had the new stuff on this weekend, big difference and ability in handling the bumps but big setup improvements still need to get it handling just right 😉

  • @martaradice543
    @martaradice543 Před měsícem

    Just take it easy 😂

  • @lloydjones7590
    @lloydjones7590 Před měsícem

    Can you put rear camber plates on the R53 . I've done to my MGZR it does help

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před měsícem

      Good question... Need to look at the rear hubs again 🤷

  • @lanzodave
    @lanzodave Před měsícem

    czcams.com/video/xmhb4kHfAgc/video.html

  • @conner916
    @conner916 Před měsícem

    Unlucky lads 😥

  • @Thejones66
    @Thejones66 Před měsícem

    Naughty navigator, Hans not done up on the shakedown 😢😂

    • @RussellThompsonRallying
      @RussellThompsonRallying Před měsícem

      Oops... 🫣

    • @Thejones66
      @Thejones66 Před měsícem

      @@RussellThompsonRallying we’ve all done it at least once. If you like the closed road rallying, should check out the jersey rally 👍🏼

  • @simonbrown2131
    @simonbrown2131 Před měsícem

    So good to see an R53 Rally Mini on the Manx. Really enjoying your vid but the editing is a bit manic!

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před měsícem

      Thanks Simon! Any bits in particular that make it manic? Keen to keep ironing out the videos in the future

    • @stephenlancaster4202
      @stephenlancaster4202 Před měsícem

      Which bits are manic ?? Most of it for me, flitting from one image to another 🤯🤯 couldn't watch it all, skipped to find your off, but I'm a grumpy old git - ask Russell 😂😂. Maybe show a couple of stages from start to finish without interruptions. Apart from that a good record of your problems & build up to the event.

    • @simonbrown2131
      @simonbrown2131 Před měsícem

      The editing is way too quick, jumping from one clip to another. It needs to slow down so the viewer can follow what’s going on. Other onboard footage can sometimes go on too long but an uninterrupted section of say 10-15 seconds would be better. Especially when you went off, more of a build up of onboard before would give it more context and drama. The joke film inserts are good but don’t do too many.

  • @samjones8565
    @samjones8565 Před měsícem

    Very well edited

  • @guybutler6406
    @guybutler6406 Před měsícem

    Love it. Need Part 2!

  • @brianroyle2533
    @brianroyle2533 Před měsícem

    Great grass roots Rallying enjoying your channel

  • @MSSRallyTeam
    @MSSRallyTeam Před 2 měsíci

    Fantastic looking Clio in the queue at 4:35. Gutted for you hope you have a good run on Manx 👍

  • @TVtwarn
    @TVtwarn Před 2 měsíci

    I can’t trust an r53 😢 I’ve had like 11 r50’s …. I really want an r53 but everybody I know who’s pushed them breaks them Sorry to see the hassle the cars giving you guys

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 28 dny

      Slowly getting there, I think we knew the r53 was always gunna prove more troublesome :( thanks for watching ❤️

  • @guybutler6406
    @guybutler6406 Před 2 měsíci

    Another great video! Love the new car. And the story behind it. You need to do a video on that!

  • @paulmccaughey3072
    @paulmccaughey3072 Před 2 měsíci

    What tyre size are you running on the toyo proxies? 195/55/15?

  • @RussellThompsonRallying
    @RussellThompsonRallying Před 2 měsíci

    Will on the bar #002 be a pub crawl 🤔😆

  • @janfrickel3822
    @janfrickel3822 Před 2 měsíci

    Hi, @jacobneal8123. I love the videos. We are currently building an R53 for gravel. I have custom-built the suspension, and I was wondering what spring rates you plan on using on the new R53 for gravel and tarmac. Unfortunately, we can't enter the Challenge, as our car doesn't meet the requirements, but I hope to see you there.

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před měsícem

      Hi mate, I can find out for you. Currently, We have been using the gravel springs for tar as well due to using older, shorter challenge suspension. But, have just upgraded to the latest challenge spec, longer travel stuff.. Ill find out what the spring rate is, not sure of the top of my head.

  • @hazza341
    @hazza341 Před 2 měsíci

    Love a bit of sideways action 🏎️

  • @Finn_Perkins
    @Finn_Perkins Před 3 měsíci

    Good to have more on toad testing and garage work to the mini

  • @DarrellWRC
    @DarrellWRC Před 3 měsíci

    I would get a t-shirt and a hat to be honest because the hat looks decent and the t-shirt look nice on the video

  • @cameronb5737
    @cameronb5737 Před 3 měsíci

    Great video mate, was a really good watch

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 3 měsíci

      Cheers Cameron, hope to catch up soon 🙏

  • @padraigbutler6968
    @padraigbutler6968 Před 3 měsíci

    well done guys great drive, Great camera footage car sounds sweet

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you for tuning in, Glad you enjoyed! :) 😄

  • @dancaulton6280
    @dancaulton6280 Před 3 měsíci

    Can you even get suspension for these that’s good for gravel rallying?

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 3 měsíci

      Decent enough stuff to get you out having an awsome time! No complaints from me

    • @dancaulton6280
      @dancaulton6280 Před 3 měsíci

      Yeah it looks a lot of fun! I’ve got an r53 just interested to see how you would get more travel or more of a ride height?

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před měsícem

      @@dancaulton6280 Championship uses adjustable BC coils, So you can play with height and droop to make it as best as it can be for the money etc.

  • @Ranger972
    @Ranger972 Před 3 měsíci

    Nice drive!

  • @martaradice543
    @martaradice543 Před 3 měsíci

    Great video, maybe your best one yet! I want a fleece 😉

  • @lindsaysmith7014
    @lindsaysmith7014 Před 3 měsíci

    Great stuff boys, really enjoyed the update

  • @andrewside5580
    @andrewside5580 Před 3 měsíci

    I would love to see some road section videos ( great to show anyone what gos on a road section and maybe a co drivers quide by Russel

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 3 měsíci

      I shall see what I can get Russel to do 👀, I agree it would be great to see codriver's side as well. Re-road sections, can see what I can do. But not an awful lot 🤷

  • @andrewside5580
    @andrewside5580 Před 3 měsíci

    Another fantastic episode been waiting for this lol

  • @blastfromthepast3073
    @blastfromthepast3073 Před 4 měsíci

    Legendary Engine 👍

  • @briandhoward6137
    @briandhoward6137 Před 4 měsíci

    how do you find the mini as a stage rally car ? Easy to work on ?? was also thinking of doing a mini. they are cheap, parts seem easy to find. Cheers

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 3 měsíci

      Really nice bits of kit to work with/one. Very much like Lego, once you know how it works it takes no time to get apart etc. Definitely do MINI, they are fab

  • @bandiflip
    @bandiflip Před 6 měsíci

    Love it !! Stumbled across your channel by accident ,I’ve been thinking of building mini….. think I will now 😊

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 6 měsíci

      Legend, thank you! 100% Recommend building one, great little things. You think a rally car?

    • @bandiflip
      @bandiflip Před 6 měsíci

      YEAH but not a full comp car like yours.I'll do club events mainly and the odd road rally and targa @@jacobneal8123

  • @TheProco2020
    @TheProco2020 Před 7 měsíci

    So who forgot to put the bonnet pins in? You’ll only do it once which is good news. Great season, great videos.

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 7 měsíci

      Maybe they rattled out... Apparently it has happened to this car before 👀👀🤣🤣Thanks mate, Hopefully we can have more fun next year

  • @lindsaysmith7014
    @lindsaysmith7014 Před 7 měsíci

    Great stuff guys

  • @andrewside5580
    @andrewside5580 Před 7 měsíci

    Another epic video been waiting for ages for this part lol can’t wait for the next instalment lol

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 7 měsíci

      Cheers Andrew! Next one is being edited now

  • @TVtwarn
    @TVtwarn Před 7 měsíci

    Hey mate just found your videos … probably popped up as I own a couple r50s 😊 just wondered what gearbox you were using when this was filmed ? Noticed you said it was dropping out of power band 1st to 2nd

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 7 měsíci

      Hi dude, Glad you found them hahaha. Been using the Midland all year, and just been very kind and doing lots of checks regarding its condition after each event etc. New rules for 24 mean we can use any type of the strong getrag gearboxes

    • @TVtwarn
      @TVtwarn Před 7 měsíci

      @@jacobneal8123 ah that’ll be great ! If you can get a bke or even better a bkl coded 6 speed . Depending on the early or late box you will need the appropriate shifter box and cables ☺️and flywheel , clutch and driveshafts . My daily still has its midlands in ,but my other car has lunched it’s midlands box so I’m swapping that for a getrag atm

  • @TheProco2020
    @TheProco2020 Před 8 měsíci

    I’ve got the same light that I’m also going to “Jerry rig” into the hire car I’m using on the RAC. Won’t be used at speed so just needs to provide a bit of light.

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 7 měsíci

      How are they working out for you brain?? 👀👀

    • @TheProco2020
      @TheProco2020 Před 7 měsíci

      Not used it in the end. Torch on the phone doing the job.

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 7 měsíci

      @@TheProco2020 Fair enough! Where are you located now? Scotland still?

    • @TheProco2020
      @TheProco2020 Před 7 měsíci

      @@jacobneal8123 only just seen this. When you replied I was on Carlisle. Now back home and tried to use the light Saturday night but didn’t work so need to look into that.

  • @kenquinn84
    @kenquinn84 Před 8 měsíci

    Did Leconfield in 1989 in a Rover SD1 3500 then again in a Talbot Sunbeam both as a nav. Great fun.

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 7 měsíci

      Interesting event for us haha, Not sure its gunna run in 24!

  • @guybutler6406
    @guybutler6406 Před 8 měsíci

    Great video as always. Love the lights switch on the dash. Very professional!

  • @andrewside5580
    @andrewside5580 Před 8 měsíci

    Loving all these videos as next year planning to navigate in the championship and it gives me and anyone else a great idea of what to expect thank you

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 8 měsíci

      Andrew, very much appreciated! Glad it's aiding a helping hand to all those who want to get out and do some rallying. Hopefully making it seem more achievable for those thinking of taking the plunge

  • @andrewside5580
    @andrewside5580 Před 8 měsíci

    Loving all these videos as next year planning to navigate in the championship and it gives me and anyone else a great idea of what to expect thank you

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 7 měsíci

      Thanks Andrew, Glad your enjoying! See you out next year

  • @martaradice543
    @martaradice543 Před 8 měsíci

    Finally!! Quality spectators there

  • @iandawes4132
    @iandawes4132 Před 8 měsíci

    I bet you had put sliks on the back because it had dryed, stages not long enough to get any heat into the tires. The BMW Minis were always hard to get the rear end working.

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 7 měsíci

      Nope actually, Had the brake bias set completely wrong, Max rear brake... So rears just locked when i braked over the crest. Sorted the issue and car was completely different. Tires we run are standard road tires, so heat not an issue etc

  • @timneal7725
    @timneal7725 Před 9 měsíci

    Good recovery! All in though perhaps a bit TOO exciting 😂😂

  • @Jamie_Schofield
    @Jamie_Schofield Před 9 měsíci

    That edit of Russel killed me 🤣😂

  • @guybutler6406
    @guybutler6406 Před 9 měsíci

    The sideways scrapes on the sump guard are mental!

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 9 měsíci

      Quite something, found more scrapes later 🤣 Shame I didn't manage to scrap your name of the sump... It's still belongs to you haha

  • @martaradice543
    @martaradice543 Před 9 měsíci

    When is the next one coming out?!

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 9 měsíci

      This week.. 👀🤌 Will be 3 vids out over the next 2 weeks

  • @fabokavrs
    @fabokavrs Před 10 měsíci

    Interested to know how much damper travel you have in gravel and tarmac spec.

    • @jacobneal8123
      @jacobneal8123 Před 9 měsíci

      It's not loads on the r50 suspension, only about 50mm of droop (ish). The R53's have a more comprehensive gravel damper, so droop is much more appropriate for the gravel.