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How Camera ISO Works: Native, Dual & The Secrets of Noise
ISO is more complicated than you think. When you started out, you were probably taught that increasing your ISO would increase the sensitivity of your sensor, making the shot brighter but adding more noise. The problem is... that isn't exactly true. In this episode of Film Science, we learn about Native ISO, Dual Native ISO, Variant and Invariant cameras as well as the ISO settings to use for clean video. Some of it is more counterintuitive than you might think!
Thanks to Scott W for inspiring this video based on his question! Hope we answered it :D
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:45 ISO Basics : Native, Dual, Invariance
01:37 Putting it to the Test
02:17 The Three Families of ISO
04:58 Why Noise Exists
05:48 Which ISO should you use?
06:59 Thanks Scott W!
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Komentáře

  • @markrigg6623
    @markrigg6623 Před 2 dny

    Raising iso DOES NOT make the camera more sensitive. It mearly amplifies signal coming off the sensor. The world is full of this sort of thing where anyone can jump on the internet and start mis informing people. 😢

  • @shueibdahir
    @shueibdahir Před 4 dny

    2:43 this process of encoding in log applies to RAW aswell. Most cameras today with the exception of RED, Sigma FP and a few others take the 12, 14bit or even 16bit linear raw data and encode it to 10-12bit log raw. The one you're referring to is 10/12bit log in a debayered and later compressed format such as hevc or h.264 or even prores

    • @nikstro
      @nikstro Před 2 dny

      So if I have sigma fp am I just kinda out of luck when colorgrading? I know log is way better because you have more control over the color.

    • @shueibdahir
      @shueibdahir Před 2 dny

      @@nikstro no its not. the sensor sees light linearly but the problem is the amount of data because its very inefficient and it consumes a lot of memory so log is the solution to that. Raw photos that you take with you camera are an example of linear raw. As you know that beats log anyday

    • @nikstro
      @nikstro Před 2 dny

      @@shueibdahir man I have so much to learn🥲 I can’t even figure out how to put the raw files in premiere or davinci…

  • @olamidefawole
    @olamidefawole Před 9 dny

    Great video.

  • @KEEYBLADE
    @KEEYBLADE Před 9 dny

    The best ISO explanation video on youtube in my opinion.

  • @ggvstheworld
    @ggvstheworld Před 10 dny

    Omg chase i watched you since New Age Creators

  • @mylifestyle9475
    @mylifestyle9475 Před 12 dny

    can you make a more detailed video on this topic?

  • @EmpowermentFault
    @EmpowermentFault Před 15 dny

    I love you bro

  • @pallave
    @pallave Před 17 dny

    💜

  • @nicholashannah
    @nicholashannah Před 19 dny

    This is an incredible in-depth explanation of a sometimes slippery subject. Thank you!

  • @ojara
    @ojara Před 21 dnem

    I bought the sound panels guide. The cross section A-A in page 7 doesn't have dimensions, and by what appears in the exploded view, its dimensions are not proportional (Frame: 195 mm. Fabric frame: 50 mm). That is almost a 4:1 relation, but in the cross section doesn't appear to be so. Could you please add the dimensions to the cross section?

  • @leilaturlybek300
    @leilaturlybek300 Před 24 dny

  • @KenToney
    @KenToney Před 25 dny

    When shooting a Milky Way Timelapse do I see the exposure on the app for my camera and let it fire camera?

  • @KenToney
    @KenToney Před 25 dny

    If I’m going to shoot Milky Way Timelapse and I’m shooting 15sec exposures on my Sony camera do I set the exp length on app?

  • @philfreemedia
    @philfreemedia Před 26 dny

    Yo! You’re a scientist

  • @Aziz32ing
    @Aziz32ing Před 27 dny

    Thanks for the explanation! Great vid

  • @deltacx1059
    @deltacx1059 Před 29 dny

    3:42 take it apart and see if that theory is true or not.

  • @user-charlieccchong
    @user-charlieccchong Před měsícem

    Wasn't the presentation too technical? I am a ASNT certified Level 3 in all disciplines (11), as an average non photography science average CZcams viewer, yet l could only glimpsed into the technical Part of your presentation only less than 5%.

  • @inquisitvem6723
    @inquisitvem6723 Před měsícem

    Is the Sony a7iii a dual iso camera?

  • @wedoall18
    @wedoall18 Před měsícem

    can you do a much more detailed video.Please because i want to do a similar project

  • @nicksushkevich
    @nicksushkevich Před měsícem

    Is it compatible with Hasselblad 907X 50C ?

  • @BruceKorb
    @BruceKorb Před měsícem

    I love instructions like, "click the link above" when there *IS NO LINK ABOVE*!!! Can you please add the link to your description above?

  • @lindalawson4296
    @lindalawson4296 Před měsícem

    So, in other words, focus on the story, not the gear.

  • @Screamus
    @Screamus Před měsícem

    Why TF is the camera so shaky when he's talking? Was the shake added in post?

  • @tld8102
    @tld8102 Před měsícem

    I can't live without autofocus

  • @CaHoiSongThuBon-uw9oh
    @CaHoiSongThuBon-uw9oh Před měsícem

    great producing quality~ thanks a lot

  • @billzou3699
    @billzou3699 Před měsícem

    The BEST one

  • @Lizzzzzzy921
    @Lizzzzzzy921 Před měsícem

    My question is can you please write some code for the company that bought yours and smeared its reputation so I can update the firmware on my $3,500 mo co system that currently is collecting dust because you can’t even turn on any genies through any apps

  • @davisionchannel
    @davisionchannel Před měsícem

    Guys, I bought your product and can’t update it... I’ve been looking for an answer to my situation for several hours now and can’t figure it out.

  • @chrislindeman5667
    @chrislindeman5667 Před měsícem

    What is that machine called you hooked up to your tripod. That makes the camera move etc.

  • @orlandofoodphotographer
    @orlandofoodphotographer Před měsícem

    this was epic dude!

  • @owenwilliams9582
    @owenwilliams9582 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks Charles for making this vid, many thanks from Anglesey N.Wales

  • @nitinagrawal7548
    @nitinagrawal7548 Před 2 měsíci

    videos like this make youtube what it is today

  • @eugene4950
    @eugene4950 Před 2 měsíci

    protocols broken on website , cant view anything

  • @matthewpcosta
    @matthewpcosta Před 2 měsíci

    My understanding that ISO for digital cameras is a tool to place the center of your Color Gamut (color, brightness, saturation) where you want in your cameras Dynamic Range. (If you see a cameras dynamic range chart, the 18% gray point shifts down with higher ISO, and skin tones being exposes 1 stop higher.) If you want your skin tones correct in the shot and a broader dark range, ISO 100. If broader highlights, higher ISO. (with the exception being Dual ISO) The same ISO for all conditions would make it difficult to color correct your shots in post process editing for saturation, brightness and varying noise levels. ISO used as a tool for noise control is like using driving speed to to time travel if your late.

  • @deardaughter
    @deardaughter Před 2 měsíci

    Iso get it. Thank you.

  • @yogesh066
    @yogesh066 Před 2 měsíci

    Which gear did you use?

  • @Nico.75
    @Nico.75 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video, thank you! One question: do you have to press START and REC simultanously on both devices?

  • @MohammedAjmal-pd7hh
    @MohammedAjmal-pd7hh Před 2 měsíci

    perfect

  • @timkeklinker
    @timkeklinker Před 2 měsíci

    I know it was just a joke at the end but plleeaaassseee don't buy dozens of Lacies as your storage solution!!! If you are okay with tinkering a bit get yourself an old Dell Optiplex, slap sth like eight 4TB harddrives into it, install Unraid or TrueNAS and use it as a network attached storage. it's MUCH more reliable, easier to organize your data, and (depending on how you set it up) you can outright kill one to three HDDs and not lose any data. It's more than worth the investment!!

  • @johnclarke1319
    @johnclarke1319 Před 2 měsíci

    you titled it camera, not video camera, so I was misled, still, a nice talk

  • @v4hacker
    @v4hacker Před 2 měsíci

    This channel is Underrated ❤

  • @KyleFarsante
    @KyleFarsante Před 3 měsíci

    We all knew that film industry runs on lube.

  • @lifelatelynh
    @lifelatelynh Před 3 měsíci

    I understood 0 thing bc he looks too cute

  • @user-gt1we9cm9u
    @user-gt1we9cm9u Před 3 měsíci

    So much work in that 40 seconds

  • @Bcutter
    @Bcutter Před 3 měsíci

    Wall of text incoming! First of all, thanks for a great video. In a way this is the best video I have found on this subject with zero false statements. Most videos you see about log shooting say a bunch of things that simply aren't true. However, there are a few things you did not mention that I still struggle to find answers to. 1. As you correctly pointed out, shooting in log enhances detail in darker areas and effectively destroys details (to a small extent) in bright areas (almost all videos you find on youtube incorrectly claim that filming in log preserves details in dark AND bright areas). So it makes sense that you would shoot in log if you want to recover dark details in a high contrast scene, BUT, what log transformation does is expand the dark areas so that they cover more of the quantization levels of the bit depth. So basically, if you don't film in log, it could be that the dark details are quantized away, and filming in log expands them so that you may capture them better on more quantization levels. But if you have a tremendous amount of quantization levels (for example if you're filming in 12-bit), using log should not be necessary, because you have enough quantization levels for those dark details anyway. But then this also says that the lower the bit depth, the more important to shoot in log! This goes against what everybody on youtube says which is "don't even consider filming in log if you can only do 8-bit, you gotta do 10-bit", whereas I would say "it is more important to film in log if you shoot in 8-bit than if you film in 10-bit", because there is more need to expand the dark areas so that they cover more quantization levels. 2. Is there REALLY a situation where filming in log 10-bit is necessary?! I see all kinds of videos on youtube trying to show how much "more room" you have to "work with" when shooting in log, but none of them do experiments that actually show WHEN shooting in log is actually beneficial or necessary. If you film in 10-bit you can do some pretty insane color grading before you start seeing it break apart, filming in log just seems so unnecessary. It doesn't give you "more dynamic range" as many youtube videos claim, the camera sensor has the same dynamic range all the time. In a way log "uses the dynamic range" in a better way, but I have experimented so much and never ever managed to produce a scene or situation where shooting in log preserved necessary details better than just shooting in standard, except if you do absolutely insane grading that would never be done in any real life situation.

  • @12345678927164
    @12345678927164 Před 3 měsíci

    Stay lubed out there lads.

  • @TinaNewtonArt
    @TinaNewtonArt Před 3 měsíci

    Super lube is Teflon.

  • @aoifemanning3830
    @aoifemanning3830 Před 3 měsíci

    Where is the shirt from @ 3:44??

  • @noratheunipony9106
    @noratheunipony9106 Před 3 měsíci

    Wow this is iconic 🙌 fair play I expect a catio next please Matt 😉

  • @DragonHuman00
    @DragonHuman00 Před 3 měsíci

    Why does he look like a lesbian