The Critical Maester
The Critical Maester
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Are the Westerosi RIGHT about the NATURE OF BASTARDS???
In the world of Westeros, bastards are othered and ostracized. Since they are children that are born out of wedlock, they are seen as being born of lust and lies, and therefore being treacherous and lustful by nature. The Westerosi believe that bastards are inherently bad people, that they have “bad blood” and are evil at heart, and though this is a terrible generalization to make about an entire group of people, when you look at all the bastards featured in A Song of Ice and Fire, the Westerosi might have a point. Or do they?
In this video, we delve into the topic. Tell me what you think about it down below in the comment’s section.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - INTRO
00:35 - JOFFREY
02:02 - RAMSAY
05:10 - THE STRONG BOYS
05:56 - JACAERYS
06:44 - JON SNOW
09:29 - CONCLUSION/TOMMEN
ART CREDIT (by order of appearance)
• JOFFREY BARATHEON - Kallielef
• RAMSAY - GibiLynx
• LORD RAMSAY BOLTON - GibiLynx
• NIGHT KING RAMSAY SNOW - Mihai Radu
• RAMSAY AND HIS HOUNDS - Unknown (via Pinterest’s “Ana Karine Cavalcanti”)
• REEK AND JEYNE POOLE - Unknown (via Pinterest’s “Note to self”)
• LUKE REMOVES AEMOND’S EYE - Ertaç Altinöz
• SARA SNOW - Unknown (via AminoApps)
• JACE AND SARA SNOW TOUCH VERMAX - Jota Saraiva
• JON SNOW AND GHOST AT THE WALL - Cristi Balanescu
• JON SNOW AND CROW - Unknown (via Pinterest’s “Aemond One-Eye”)
• JON SNOW - Rodmendez
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Komentáře

  • @dllps
    @dllps Před hodinou

    Jaehaerys I was seeking to establish a succession tradition to the Iron Throne. In other words, he was also wanting to legitimize himself, since he passed in front of his nieces, his older brother's daughters, something totally wrong for the orthodox andal tradition. The Council of 101 simply confirmed what Jaeherys I thought. According to orthodox Andal tradition, there would be no problem with Rhaenyra being ahead of Daemon. However, it is wrong in this specific case and this is Otto and Viserys fault, they neglected the Council of 101 and the traditional succession to the Iron Throne. The question is not Aegon or Rheanyra at first, the question is the order of succession for the Iron Throne, that is, the orthodox or the one changed by Jaeherys I. When Aegon is born, he is the legitimate heir in both traditions and That's why Rheanyra's claim is non-existent, Aegon II's daughter would have more rights than any other woman during the dance, that's why marrying her to Aegon III was right, since she was his heir, ahead of Aegon III's sisters.

  • @Cici-ho8mc
    @Cici-ho8mc Před 2 hodinami

    Jacaerys wasn't married to Baela in the books. They were just engaged like in the show.

  • @cynfaelalek-walker7003
    @cynfaelalek-walker7003 Před 3 hodinami

    Hey bro, I have a small theory about this "If you treat someone as if they are evil and when they try to act otherwise you disagree and imply that this is not their nature is it a surprise that they turn out evil?' Another thing is that their parents matter, Joffery's mother had a direct impact on the way he acted, she coddled him so much that he believed there's no consequences for his actions and his father didn't even try to discipline him in a correct way, Ramsay was mentally abused by Roose, yes both of them had done f'd up things as kids but that could be addressed by good parents, Jon Snow was raised by the paragon of honor Ned Stark and he turned out well.

  • @itsmainelyyou5541
    @itsmainelyyou5541 Před 5 hodinami

    Bastards are only 'bad' because they were marginalized and made desperate. Jon being raised openly by his own house as a bastard was a rarity. I'm sure there were many bastards in Dorne with less desperate outcomes.

  • @MattyCamachio
    @MattyCamachio Před 6 hodinami

    I’m glad I’m not the only one that was feeling this way, it’s so messed up how they portray the blacks

  • @King_Steffon_II
    @King_Steffon_II Před 7 hodinami

    As a bastard myself, I say yes 😈

  • @1dorgodsportsandmusic
    @1dorgodsportsandmusic Před 13 hodinami

    Book readers route for the black faction because the green faction is anti-Targaryen and are believed to be working with the misters to destroy the Targaryen empire and kill all the dragons so the high towers can replace their own power as they pretty much ruled Westerosi culture until the Conqueror.

  • @ygr6484
    @ygr6484 Před 13 hodinami

    They are correct, every single bastard in ASoIaF is evil. Including Jon Snow

  • @seth_fitzgerald
    @seth_fitzgerald Před 14 hodinami

    I want to counter by saying that there are evil bastards and there are bastards that aren’t born evil, but they are made that way. Nature vs Nurture, Joffrey & Ramsay are the most evil and despicable, and more importantly, the most horrifying and terrible bastards to ever be born their actions give bastards a terrible name way worse than their true-born counterparts. that’s why society is so quick to condemn them because they are born out of lust or they’re born out of neglect or they are born in a way that justifies their nature. I wanna say that we have seen bastard children go on to do a lot of things that capture the public attention way more than their true-born counterparts do but I also believe that it is society's neglectful, and quick to judge what makes bastard children become evil.

  • @carastone3473
    @carastone3473 Před 19 hodinami

    Nope; this would be blaming the children for the "sins" of their parents. It's ridiculous.

  • @MichaelMedici61W2
    @MichaelMedici61W2 Před 20 hodinami

    Cregan Stark is the epitome of the saying like a boss

  • @erlkoenig505
    @erlkoenig505 Před 21 hodinou

    You focus only on a handful of bastards that seem to confirm the prejudices, but there are also examples that don't, e.g. Robert's bastards: Gendry, Edric Storm and Mya Stone seem to be decent people, and Dunk who considers himself to be a bastard is a prime example of chivalry. On the other hand, Jon is not a bastard in the books and most likely neither in the books, although he is perceived as such.

    • @thecriticalmaester9702
      @thecriticalmaester9702 Před 18 hodinami

      With Jon - Rhaegar and Lyanna probably never got married, so Jon could still be a bastard. A Targaryen bastard, but a bastard nonetheless. And then with Robert's bastards - Gendry is literally a part of a group of brigands and outlaws, so he could be seen as a traitor of the crown, which is in keeping with his bastardy. We don't know much about Edric Storm and Mya Stone to make a judgement on them, though. 🤔

    • @erlkoenig505
      @erlkoenig505 Před 16 hodinami

      @@thecriticalmaester9702 So far we can neither confirm nor reject the hypothesis that Rhaegar and Lyanna were married. The TV version is a hint, but we do not know anything for sure and therefore we shouldn't list Jon as a confirmed bastard. And while Gendry is with the brotherhood, he seems to be a decent person and commits no atrocities for all we know, while e.g. Arya kills people.

  • @benjamingarrett9960

    I'll be honest here. In the show, the Greens are portrayed to be much better people than what they actually are in the books. Daeron himself was simply on the wrong side.

  • @MangoMann072
    @MangoMann072 Před dnem

    Im sure there were plenty of bastards that went on to do great things. There was that one Stark bastard that was going to off Aegons 3 dragons with weirwood arrows.

    • @jessjess23brooks89
      @jessjess23brooks89 Před hodinou

      There was Orys Baratheon as well. He founded an entire house and showed mercy and strategy politically and in battle.

  • @Ivbo
    @Ivbo Před dnem

    I don’t think Jon is truly a bastard, the old tradition of a Targaryen taking two wives will 100% come back into the story in my opinion, Rhaegar was trying to create a prophecy child and *”The Prince Who Was Promised”* he simply wouldn’t have fathered a bastard, it goes against his goals and his visions. Also, Rhaegar and Lyanna were in Dorne during their whole relationship, where they’re known to be quite understanding of weird sexual situations…no matter how I look at it, everything lines up to Rhaegar taking Lyanna for a second wife in Dorne.

    • @thecriticalmaester9702
      @thecriticalmaester9702 Před 18 hodinami

      Maybe. But I just don't see any septon officiating that marriage. Also, since Rhaegar was already married to Elia, I don't think that any Dornishman would participate in a ceremony in which Rhaegar was betraying a member of their royal family. The Dornish are too loyal to their own and would never do that, especially for a Targaryen. Unbowed, unbent, unbroken. 🤔

  • @arturogarza8590
    @arturogarza8590 Před dnem

    Good video but not mentioning some things like Ramsey and Jofrey are probably the way they are more than anything because of how they were raised and their family. Sersey is almost as bad as Jofrey but she restrains herself more and thinks about the consequences. and the bolton family has always been evil. Besides, both Jon and Jacaerys are teenagers, saying that they are more lustful because they are bastards does not make much sense, especially when there are legitimate people like King Robert Barateon or King Aegon IV or other lords who had dozens of bastards.

    • @matztz_4560
      @matztz_4560 Před 14 hodinami

      Boltons aren't evil, they are just more prominent in the northern culture, is not like the glovers umbers karstarks or even starks are any better than the biltons