THE TRAGIC LIFE OF VISERYS III
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- Viserys III is a terrible person, both in the books and on the tv show. He is cruel and vain and a classical bully - some might even say he is a downright villain. However, is it possible that there are reasons for Viserys’s behaviours? Is it possible that Viserys’s cruelty is as a result of his circumstances? We know that Viserys wasn’t always cruel to Daenerys and that there are passages throughout the books in which Dany thinks back on him affectionately. She acknowledges the pain and the fear that he made her feel throughout her life, but she also cannot deny the significant role that he played in her survival and upbringing. Sometimes, she finds herself fondly remembering the sweet boy that he used to be, and not the monstrous man that he later became. So who was that ‘sweet boy’ that Viserys used to be and how did he become the monster that we come to know in the books? Is this video, we explore whether the tragic circumstances of Viserys’s life warrant a little sympathy for the man himself.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 - INTRO
01:32 - CHILDHOOD
05:39 - A LIFE OF EXILE
10:10 - AT THE DOTHRAKI SEA
13:52 - CONCLUSION
ART CREDITS (by order of appearance)
• Viserys Targaryen by AGiel (via Pinterest)
• ‘You don’t want to wake the dragon, do you?’ by aprilis420
• Viserys Targaryen by RabidWerewolf (via Deviantart)
• Viserys Targaryen by BraydenJasselle (via Deviantart)
• The Mad King by SharksDen (via Deviantart)
• Madness of a king by ???
• The Mad King marries Queen Rhaella from Game of Thrones Blu-Ray
• Queen Rhaella by Bella Bergolts
• The Mad King by Anastasia Prokofeva
• Aegon and Balerion the Black Dread by ertacaltinoz
• Viserys Targaryen by Ekaterina Krasikova
• Daenerys on a horse by Donato Giancola
• Aerys on the Iron Throne by Jennifer Drummond
• Jaime kills Aerys during the Sack of King’s Landing by Michael Komarck
• Dragonstone by Philip Straub
• Robert Baratheon sitting the Iron Throne by ???
• Young Dany and Viserys by Jacqui Davis
• Requiem for the Queen by WaterSorceror (via Deviantart)
• Queen Rhaella and a young Viserys by an-artist-who-loves-got (via tumblr)
• Queen Rhaella by lucerysmp4
• Queen Rhaella and a young Viserys by ??? (via Mariana Rios on Pinterest)
• Queen Rhaella by Escume
• Viserys by Renzo Gonzalez (via Deviantart)
• Young Viserys and Dany cosplay by @viola_dima_official (via Instagram)
• Willem Darry by ???
• The House with the Red Door by jake55778
• Viserys and Daenerys by kethryn (via DeviantArt)
• Pentos by TheSpikieristMango
• Viserys and Dany meet the Captains of the Golden Company by MylesToyne
• Young Dany and Viserys by ???
• Viserys tickling Baby Dany by nogaypalulustre
• Daenerys and Viserys by ejbeachy (via Deviantart)
• Daenerys by Denis Maznev
• Viserys and Daenerys via @thinktargaryens on TwitterX
• Viserys by Denis Maznev
• Viserys dreaming of home by ???
• Viserys Targaryen by gildracon
• Illyrio by Jake Murray
• The Dothraki ‘crown’ Viserys by Jonathan Burton
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He emerges as a captivating yet tragic figure, driven by his obsession with power and entitlement. While his troubled past and dedication and care for his sister evoke sympathy, my feelings toward him are conflicted. The screen character didn’t capture his complexities, portraying him as weak rather than flawed. Nevertheless, I remain unconvinced of his suitability for rulership. Your video was excellent once again; you nearly succeeded in making me like Viserys.
I actually think that Harry Lloyd did a rather good job at capturing the whiny brat Viserys was described as in A Game of Thrones. Even in the book, we only see Viserys as a weak and pitiful thing, and we don't really see the complexities that led to him being that way. It's only through Dany's POVs in the subsequent novels that we learn about how tragic Viserys truly was. It's actually Daenerys that humanizes him. It's through her perspective that we learn to empathize with Viserys a bit... or at least I did lol. 🙈 But I do understand why some people might not be able to.
Anyway, thanks for watching the video. Stay tuned for more. ❤️
I hate how in the show D&D made us believe that was Danys first sign of madness with her having her brother killed all because of her reaction. She was obviously numb but knew her brother has been long gone. The problem I had was them not showing how she missed how her brother used to be and having regret for what happened it’s like they took out majority of her humanity and tried to make her cold which is why Emilia was sometimes fighting them about
The same brother who had psychically/sexually abused and traumatized her for years. The same brother who should have protected her but instead sold her to a barbarian war-lord famous for raping and pillaging- in exchange for a small army. And then he held a sword to her stomach and threatened to carve her unborn child out of her because the man he sold her to hadn't paid for her yet? The real monster here is HER because she didn't cry for her abuser? God the writers were so dumb 🤦♀️.
i seriously doubt he was going to carve up Daenerys . i think he just wanted Drogo to finally take him seriously , which was naive, because he violated a sacred rule for which he had to pay for dearly .
Totally agree. I don't think that he would've actually killed her, but Viserys was an idiot who couldn't think too far ahead. He really couldn't consider the consequences of his actions at all. 🤦♂
Ive always felt this way too, I think Viserys was just trying to get Drogo to take him seriously. Plus, wasn't he drunk in that moment? He probably was just acting without thinking and letting alcohol make choices for him. His whole situation is sad when you really know the backstory and what lead to his death.
Yes I always felt bad for Viserys as a kid. Being born a prince & to have your whole family killed & your mother die in childbirth & taken from your home to have to raise your baby sister with nothing but a name. Had to be traumatizing but it doesn’t excuse the weak & cruel man he grew to be. I do wish him & Daenerys could’ve been fostered at Winterfell or Highgarden.
Totally agree. 💯 It doesn't excuse the weak and cruelty of the man, but it does show that he is a lot more complex than we might originally think. I can't imagine going through the same things as he had went through, so I don't know how I would react in the same circumstances. But I can't lie and say that I don't understand where his anger came from. He was a tragic character and I feel bad for what he went through... and he was also a cruel scumbag who abused and terrified his sister for many years. Two of those things can be true at once, I think. 🤔
Anyway, thank you for watching the video and leaving a comment. ❤
Viserys really never stood a chance
Viserys crawled so Danny could burn them all
The beggar king could have been so much more but do to his upbringing he was always destined to fail. I pity him and his lose of innocence but sadly he deserved his fate.
Yeah, he did. But it's still a very sad upbringing. He just needed better guidance in his life.
@@thecriticalmaester9702classic case of being raised by the right person.
This is why i love the books better than the show because all characters whether good, bad, grey or a complete psychopath are not just reduced down to their good or terrible deeds. They are all extremely flawed and complex as opposed to a 'bad man abusing his sister her entire life'
I mean, he is a man who abused and traumatized his sister for most of her life....
@@Aydan2108 the hound butchered men, women and children because he liked doing it and he still gets sympathy for getting abused by his big brother and the way he was brought up...
True. I love the complexity that's introduced to these characters in the books. George RR Martin truly is a master at crafting compelling characters that feel like real people.
@akshitarai1380 I don't have any sympathy for him
@@Aydan2108 great
In the series it makes no sense for her to have named one of her beloved dragons after someone who was so cruel to her. But the books make it far more understandable. The series had so many shortcomings even if it gave us some of the greatest visual feasts in recent times.
I love Viserys, I know he was a bad person towards people but still, he was a product of his environment, which was uncertain dangerous and unpredictable, and so that is what he became to survive
"I love viserys" 💀
@@Aydan2108 yessir, I stand by that, it’s the hill I die on
@@billychops1280 embarrassing, what's there to love about him?, no hun, you're just a dany pathetic hater, so ofc your sick mind is gonna love her abuser.
@@Aydan2108 Mate....please shut the fuck up....and I don't even like Game of Thrones...
Considering how traumatic it is in real life for older siblings to suffer parentification, without the added stress of running from enemies and assassins along with the stress of starvation and poverty, Viserys was doomed to have some severe psychological damage even without any potential genetic influence or his father's influence in raising him (which itself was undoubtedly traumatizing). Viserys might have lost the mental health genetic lottery, but even if he hadn't had a genetic predisposition to mental illness, he probably would have been mentally unwell.
Totally agree 💯
He's a person with really terrible issues. He certainly is misunderstood, and it's annoying that people just see him as a cartoon villain to hate. Everywhere he went, people mistreated him unbelievably viscously. He never could stay in one place for too long. The most traumatizing part would not be able to understand any of it. Everyone who mocked him would gaslight him into believing he deserved it even though all he really was was a frightened child all alone in the world.
I dont think he was truly cruel. Just very scared.
Still, does that give him the right to abuse and traumatiz his sister for years and then sell her and then almost trying to kill her and her baby?, ofc we're gonna hate him, hello?
@@Aydan2108 I never said it gave him a right to do that. Of course it doesn't. I only said he wasn't born that way. And like I said I do think he could become a better person with therapy.
Very well put, and I think a lot of people misunderstand his character. I honestly think it kinda makes sense why he acts the way he does towards the end. He had been basically struggling his entire life to get anywhere, let alone getting the iron throne, yet his sister married Drogo and suddenly she's pretty much given everything pretty fast. Granted, her marriage didn't start out great, but through his POV he saw it as she was given what he never got. I'm not saying he was a good guy, but it's kinda understandable when you consider what he's seen and been through. Who knows how he would've turned out had he lived longer.
Honestly I always saw Viserys as an evil counterpart to Nani from Lilo and Stitch. Both of them were very young and ended up having to becoming a parent to their sibling while still dealing with the trauma of losing their parents at such a young age. But while Nani became compassionate, hard working, flexible and willing to move on with her life despite giving up on her dreams, Viserys became bitter, cruel, selfish and obsessed with getting his throne back no matter that cost. And that desire ended up transforming him into Dany's abuser rather than her ally. I actually hate Robert Baratheon more than Viserys because Viserys has a lot of good reasons for becoming the way he is while Robert had everything given to him on a silver plate and still became an awful husband, awful father, awful king, and even an awful friend given the tragedy of the Starks started because Robert decided Ned should be his Hand and he didn't FEEL like being a proper king. Trust me, I was upset when Viserys died unmourned and forgotten while everyone in the story keeps pretending Robert was a better king than the Targaryens. And this is coming from someone who felt Robert's Rebellion was justified and Aerys II needed to be stopped and put down. I just lost sympathy for Robert when Gregor Clegane murdered Elia Martell and her two children and Robert approved of it and then married the daughter of the man who gave the order. THAT was the moment Robert stopped being a good king and Robert's Rebellion no longer felt like a just cause.
I couldn't agree more. Many fans treat Robert like he was a great guy and king, but in reality the guy was a terrible man and a pretty bad king. Granted, I wouldn't say he was worse than Aerys, but people who say he was a great king are very wrong. Guy basically was cool with innocent children being murdered and basically didn't take being king seriously and treated it like a giant party. Plus, even if he had married Lyanna, he probably wouldn't have been a great husband anyway. People who hate on characters like Viserys but love Robert always baffled me.
I feel sorry for Viserys sometimes. He's been on his own since he was 8 years old, trying to raise his sister and treated like crap. Definitely a product of his environment.
Yeah, his circumstances turned him into a cruel and bitter man. Viserys was a good boy in the beginning who did everything to protect his sister, but I can see how the things that happened to him could turn him into a cold and bitter man. Not that I agree with him or support him, I’m just able to sympathize with him a bit. The things that happened to him were awful and humiliating, and all he ever wanted was to go home. 😭
what a messed up childhood.. his life is as tragic as his end was violent.
In the books and the tv show all we get to see that was left of the brother Dany remembers, is a broken man, rather a shell, full of delusions and disdain towards an indifferent world.
I think would he have been as dislikable as towards the end, Dany would not have picked him as name-sake for one of her three dragons.
Good point. I agree with you on that. 💯
Thank you for this. He's more than his anger and jealousy.
I hate Viserys' character...but you've made me more understanding and empathic towards him
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I have always felt that if we had a POV chapter from Viserys we would understand him more. Image being 8 years old and your whole family is killed. Suddenly you are responsible for an infant sister and for re-establishing your house. He felt that he had to get the thrones back for his family and avenge their deaths. He wasn't cmpletely crazy when he said that Robert was coming after them. Robert was tracking them. And he was humiliated time and again when he had to beg for food and shelter, not just for himself but for his little sister. If George ever wrote a short story of his life we would probably find out that he suffered even more than we know. And as much as he was cruel, he never killed anyone. He did little more than slap and pinch like a child. Dany murdered countless people and is looked at by many as a hero.
Pathetic, go find therapy, who did dany kill?, evil men and slavers?, viserys deserved what he got and now his sister is a queen by her own right, embarrassing.
He is little bit more complex than what people think, but that doesn't justify the freak he became at the end, in the chapter he died in, dany refers to him as "the man who was once my brother".
Beggar King > Mad Queen
Who?
bro you out here bringing up concepts I have been thinking for years all thats left it to reveal the truth barristan isnt as honorable or noble as people think
🤔 Interesting idea.
@@thecriticalmaester9702 I mean the guy is sworn to protect the king and his family yet where was he serving the usurper, abandoning viserys under the excuse that he was like his father which was a piss poor deflection at best he professes that he is so honourable yet his actions say otherwise
@@durrangodsgrief6503 I can't disagree with anything that you're saying. Yeah, Ser Barristan was kind of dishonorable there. Very interesting... 🤔
The only disgreement I can think of is the fact that he was pardoned by Robert Baratheon. Aerys was dead and he would've presumed that Dany and Viserys would be too, so the only person left to serve would be the king now sitting on the Iron Throne - which would be Robert. The Kingsguard don't take vows of vengeance like the Dothraki bloodriders do. They don't technically have to avenge their king. However, I can see how someone could look at Ser Barristan as being shady and dishonourable...
Great dive into Viserys, details that I would never have known as a show watcher only… although as he wasn’t officially crowned as king, I doubt he should have a number next to his name? I have hope that at some time in the future, the screen will bring us Robert’s Rebellion and its lead up, to show these complexities of characters that causes in affect the Game of Thrones.
One of my favorite characters!
In one of my favorite fan fics (A Shawdowed Path), Viserys becomes king even after Rhaegar wins the rebellion and sets Elia aside for Lyanna (Aerys still dies but not by Jamie's hand). Rhaella is the main factor behind this because technically, Rhaegar got an annulment without permission from his father who was still king at the time which in turn leads to Aegon/Jon technically being a bastard since the marriage shouldn't have been sanctioned. Rhaella still remembers the previous Blackfyre rebellions and sets to make sure that a true born Targaryen takes the throne (it turns out later that Rhaegar and Lyanna don't have any more children). In this story, Rhaella's protection, advice, and influence on her younger son are evident and it did make me wonder how book Viserys would have turned out had he had a mother's love
Daenerys does not believe that targaryens do not "mate with the beast of the field" as evidenced by the fact that she has no issues with doing that very thing. She was simply explaining what viserys believed
While the show didn't get everything write(especially after they went off book), season 1's speech Viserys gives as he tells Jorah how he's had to carry the burden of the Targaryen Dynasty his whole life. The show didn't give enough about how much Viserys sacrificed, how he gave up the last heirloom of his beloved mother(who kept the truth of his fathers monstrous nature from him)to raise the girl who he judged for killing her. He was a good brother for a time, but the burden, the pain and the paranoia of his belief that Robert had sent hired knives after him(from the discussions between Robert and Ned, this was untrue, as Jon Arryn convinced Robert not to when he was crowned and Robert only put a price on them after he learned Dany was pregnant).
Viserys begged for help from the sellsword companies and they drank his wine and ate his food and laughed in his face. While what he did to Daenerys cannot be forgiven, we can see in the preceding chapter to his fatal crowning(and the same chapter where she tries to gift him the Dothraki garb)that Daenerys, despite naming him as the person who told her who she was, was already planning on unseating him(in AGOT, as they arrive at Vaes Dothrak, Dany discusses how her son needs bloodriders of his own when her son sits the Iron Throne(an impossibility unless Viserys were dead.)
From the Arianne chapter released for TWOW, Arianne is already fairly disturbed that Dany just sat back and watched as her brother was murdered, so I hope this is plot point is continued.
11:20 never knew Dothraki was pronounced like that
He doesn't scream villain to me. He is giving really entitled.
I agree. I never got any villain vibes from him, he just always seemed misunderstood to me. Now, that's not to say that he was a swell guy, but I could understand how tragedous he was as a character.
Yeah, Viserys seemed to have ego issues and to not able to see that others people had pain and problems too, but he was also raised in instability, fear, and a weird mix of privilege and deprivation, so could see how he would grow to be self centered and cling to the myth of his greatness and exceptionalism as a comfort against the instability.
@@Itried20takennames Well put. I think that when you consider the challenges of his childhood, it's easier to understand why he was so unhinged. That's not to excuse any of his behaviours, that's just to say that they are more understandable... for me anyway.
0:54 Willem Darry: what was I chopped liver????
True. He was a child with WAIGHT OF 300 years of his dynasty on his head... HE WAS A PRINCE... who was used by lords and masters. A kid who need to steal, beg and SELL his last warm memory of his mother to survive. He was push to protect his sister time and time again... AND HE SNAP. Cruel world change young dragon... to serpent.
Completely agree with what's said about Viserys III. BIG and HOTD fan here and I loved your video. Nobody is born an a$$hat but I believe we are shaped by events both tragic and traumatic. There was a time when he was a good brother to Dany ( btw both Harry and Emilia portrayed them quite well and both are gorgeous 😍 ). Im such a fan that I am writing a fan fiction just for fun about a Stark cousin who is married off to Viserys ostensibly to keep a protective eye on Dany ( because of Robert Baratheon). To sum it up, she ( the Stark cousin) is pregnant and hopes Viserys will stay in Pentos. She has a son who much later bonds with Drogon.
all i'm going to say is, the fact that he was able to keep his younger sister by his side and not thrown into a whore-house should be praise alone, and that she still had her v-card when she married,
so imagine what he must have went through to make that possible.
in my opinion viserys was just an trajic character who was not as smart as he thinks he was
Being kicked by servants out of darry house doesn't make sense to me. Is the house owned by him? Rented? Loaned? Some 3rd party allowed him to stay there with the kids?! What's the situation here? And why what ever tenant status didn't pass over to them? What authority the servant has to kick them and stay there instead? Who's paying their wages? *IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE*
I love all the Targaryen idc who don’t like them they are literally my favorite house and bought every single book about them I love that family so much I just wish characters like daemon and aemond maybe could’ve had a happy ending I hate the whole war thing cause it really destroyed house Targaryen the dance of the dragons will always be my most hurtful memories ever I cannot believe they finna show it on tv I don’t think im ready to see the Targaryens destroyed specially characters like rhaenyra aemond daemon and many more those just my favorites
can we get a video of daemon please
Barristan says Viserys always had the taint of madness
i think killing him early was a mistake. if you are going to end the story with two big players targaryans, it shouldnt be the character that was introduced mid fifth book out of nowhere and dany, but dany and her brother, because then you would have character development and emotional impact with dany fighting her brother.
They should do a viserys movie
That would be a good movie. Sad and glum perhaps, but still good in the hands of a good screenwriter and director. 🤔
One of those animated specials they used to do would’ve been good
I think Dany is the daughter of Lyanna and Rhaeger
Those infant deaths were foul play
I think so, too 🤔
Didn’t Viserys try to rape his sister at one point? I understand that his life was messed up, but I don’t think that I can get over that fact. I think that Viserys was irredeemable at that point.
Great video, but I have no sympathy for this guy.
I understand what you mean, but I also don't think that Illyrio's words can be fully trusted. He SAYS that Viserys almost assaulted his sister, but is it actually true? I'm not so sure. Illyrio is a notorious liar in the books, so much so that even Tyrion takes his words with a grain of salt - and he's only just met him. He can tell that the man is slimy and dishonest, and that lies come as easily to him as breathing does to normal men. So, I don;t know if Illyrio can be fully trusted... that's not to say that Viserys never hurt his sister, because we know that he has, even on theshow, but I just don't believe anything that Illyrio says. Or at least believe very little of it. 🤔
@thecriticalmaester9702 he already sexuality harassed her many times, so I think he was gonna, you know......
@@thecriticalmaester9702
It would certainly be inkeeping with Viserys's extreme sense of entitlement, and he might have tried to internally justify it as a way of keeping the traditions of his house alive.
Whichever way you slice and dice it, he was a sh**bag... we all make choices in life
I understand, but I just think that there are reasons for why he became a shitbag... you know what I mean? 🤔 Like, I understand that people make choices in their life, and that how you choose to react in a situation is all on you, but I can also understand - given the tragic circumstances of his life - why he chose to react the way that he did.
I've never gone through anything like Viserys has gone through in his life, but I imagine that it would also make me angry, bitter and determined to win back my father's throne if I had... but yeah, sure, you're right. It doesn't justify his treatment of his sister...
I just think it's a lot more nuanced than "Viserys is an evil scumbag". The character is a lot more complex than that.
Viserys was never a king. Jon snow was rightfully Heir to the throne. 😂
Well, in the books, nothing has been confirmed yet. And Viserys was the rightful king, technically speaking. It's just that nobody wanted him on the throne. And technically, he was crowned at the end... with a pot of molten gold, though. 😅
Viserys>Daenyeries
What kind of a deadbrain take is that?
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Can we get an in depth analysis of Mord?
Soon... 😅
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@@anemone3694not gold 😔😔
NO GOLD!!!