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Proof That Zero Is the First Natural Number (Peano Postulate 3)
An explanation of the proof of the third Peano Postulate, that Zero is the first natural number.
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Komentáře

  • @tempe8528
    @tempe8528 Před 2 hodinami

    1. dont undermind God 2. dont disrespect God 3. dont take Gods name out of context 4. dont underestimate God 5. treat the land well and itll treat you well 6. dont step outside your boundary 7. dont compromise what doesnt need to be changed 8. dont go against the current 9. no pranks 10. no surprises 11. ettiquette 12. dont do anything unnecessary within your abillities 13. crucial___ dont DISRUPT anything at all, you know you shouldnt, or God will kick you out!!!!!!. i had a papal sanctioned signed by god.claim theocracy immunity. its no longer stars and stripes, its rainbow.

  • @ahmedmahmud4238
    @ahmedmahmud4238 Před 2 hodinami

    Honestly your channel's presentation delivery needs help.

  • @2NE3X
    @2NE3X Před 5 hodinami

    Doubting is thinking. Therefore you thought. THEREFORE YOU ARE. YOU ALONE ARE.

  • @jhomastefferson3693
    @jhomastefferson3693 Před 6 hodinami

    So the second definition of morality, that isnt how i understand morality. Your internal sense of right and wrong is your conscience. Morality is a transcendent thing that applies to everyone all the time. To explain the difference, look at a defense lawyer defending a murderer who he knows is guilty. Morally and by his own conscience, he thinks it is wrong to aid and abet this murder by helping the guy escape justice, but ethically, he must defend him and try to get him off. Morally it's wrong to steal, as well as ethically if the person you are stealing from didnt do anything wrong, but by your own conscience you may find it right because it prevents starvation. And ethically among thieves, if you swiped something that isn't missed and which the person you stole from won't suffer a great deal in the absence of, it was ok. Theft is actually a good example. Thieves have morals and ethics and a conscience. Stealing is wrong, and they usually think stealing is wrong. Look at a documentary on italian pickpockets if you don't believe me. But the ethics of it, the code of conduct, is that if you do it without hurting anyone physically, you're ok.

  • @nienke7713
    @nienke7713 Před dnem

    Is there any case in the world that truly has a two-party system? I know some countries, such as the US, have effectively a two party system due to the use of pluraliry/FPTP system being insanely prone to the spoiler effect, but it's not truly, more parties are allowed and they do exist, most people just vote strategically to not waste their vote. In order to truly have a two-party system, you need to artificially restrict range, because it's highly unrealistic that there will only be 2 options if more are allowed. So when you argue for a two party system, either you're arguing to have a multi-party system with plurality/FPTP (an absolutely terrible system), or you're arguing to resteict range. Now what's better ultimately depends on what you're choosing, but for an election of a president or other single role intended to represent a large amount of people, it is best to choose someone who is considered more acceptable than each other candidate, i.e. a condorcet winner; or in case none exists, then at least someone from the set that all consider more acceptable than those outside the set, i.e. someone from the Smith set. Determining a condorcet winner, ir the Smith set, should thus be a priority. If we found our Condorcet winner, great, we're done. If we found a Smith set larger than 1 (which I think is quite rare in realistic elections) then we need a way to pick someone from that set. Since we all desire to limit tactical voting and interference from the spoiler effect, and knowing that full IIA is impossible, it seems sensible to go for the option that satisfies all three of the weaker forms of IIA: LIIA, Smith-IIA, and Indepence of Clones, which all make strategic voting and spoiler effect more difficult and less likely. Thus, we should opt for the Ranked Pairs Condorcet method. If we want a legislature or something that represents the diversity of opinions that exist in society, then we shouldn't be looking at these methods at all, we should be looking at various methods of proportional representation; local representatives on a national/federal level is an absolutely ridiculous system and also assumes that voter preferences are large based on locality whilst completely ignoring other demographics: why local representatives rather than representatives based on demographics such as age, race, gender, sexuality, religion? For mamy people those are as important as, if not more portant than, theie locality for their voter preferences; local representatives is just a form of identity politics, favoured mostly by the people who whine the most about identity politics. Perhaps in the olden days it made sense because you only really had any connection to your local community with little to no clue to what was going on outside of it; but nowadays with the inteeconnectivity we have, it just doesn't seem that sensible anymore. Now if you just want to pick a movie to watch with your friends, you can go for something simple as approval voting; it's quick, easy, and as long as the stakes are low and no real reason to try to vote tactically, it'll be fine, and you can pick the option that most of you are okay with. Need to judge a bunch of performances in a music contest? Some score voting is probably thw right pick for that, as long as those voting don't have a stake in the results and thus no reason to tactically inflate/deflate their scores, that's a pretty good system to get a final ranking of the candidates. Want the middleground/compromise/moderate option out of the picture and its fence-sitting centrist supporters picking a side? Then the centre-squeezing Instant Runoff Vote (a.k.a. Alternative Vote) is the right choice for you

  • @nienke7713
    @nienke7713 Před dnem

    Whilst pure Condorcet passes it, any of the variants that does somehow pick a winner if there's no condorcet winner no longer passes it (but does beat the always a winner criterion in that case). Considering that no non-dictatorial ranked system that always produces a winner is able to satisfy this criterion, I think it's sensible to look at weaker forms of the criterion to still get something out of it if we want a ranked system. The local Independence of Irrelevant Alternatives is one such weaker form that still isn't satisfied by many. It is only concerned with the last place dropping out not changing the winner, and the 1st place dropping out always causing the rumner up to win. IIA is for a large part related to the spoiler effect, where passing it would mean resistance to the spoiler effect. Whilst condorxet methods aren't perfectlt resistent to the spoiler effect, they do have more resistance than most methods; if there is a condorcet winner, they there is no way that another candidate dropping out would change that winner, and a new candidate joining could only chamge the winner by either becoming the winner themselves, or by becoming part of the Smith set (which the previous winner would also still be part of). A criterion that is then particularly useful if we also care about the condorcet criterion, is the Smith-IIA, which states that no candidate outside of the Smith set should affect the winner. This also pairs nicely with the Smith criterion, a generalization of the Condorcet criterion, which states that the winner should always be from the Smith set (if a condorcet winner exists, then the condorcet winner is the only candidate in the Smith set and thus a method that satisfies the Smith criterion must necessarily also satisfy the Condorcet criterion). There's also independence of clones*, which means that if a clone* candidate is added or removed, it should not affect the chances if winning/losinf for any candidates outside that set of clones*. The Ranked Pairs Condorcet method satisfies all of these weaker forms of the IIA (as well as satisfying all other criteria, except the pure IIA, discussed in this mini-series). And seeing as no ranked voting method is able to satify pure IIA, I'd argue that ranked pairs condorcet is the best ranked choice system out there. To make things even better, it's relatively simple to understand how a winner is chosen, and easy to verify, which can be considered valuable properties of a voting system in practice to have. *A clone in this context is a candidate who is ranked by all voters directly above or below the candidate they're a clone off, without any other candidates between (both are considered clones). Potentially a set of multiple candidates could all be considered clones if they are always ranked together without any others ever ranked between them. The main point is that voters see them as close enough that they always move as a group within the rankings, and are never split up, even if they're not exactly equal.

  • @glenliesegang233
    @glenliesegang233 Před dnem

    Evil is the destruction of something of value ( unique, preciious, and what encourages the flourishing of other valuable things and beings) Natural evil is when blind forces without volition cause the destruction. Personal evil is destruction for the pleasure of the destroyer (M. SCcott Peck MD, paraphrased)

  • @socraplatotleus
    @socraplatotleus Před dnem

    I think doing a thorough analytic investigation of the aphorism is fine… but it misses half the picture. Nature is more than just syllogisms.

  • @nienke7713
    @nienke7713 Před dnem

    1:14 is there any evidence that there often is no Condorcet winner? Is this based on analysis of hypotheticals, or of real life scenarios? Considering that in most elections candidates can generally be (roughly) ranked on an axis voters on the extremes will tend to choose their own extreme, then the centre, then the other extreme, and the centre will split some leaning one way and some another but centre first, which in practice often means that the centre/median (within the ideological space) tends to be the condorcet winner. Only if the centre might be ruling long enough whilst being dissatisfying to voters, might people start to prefer anything non-establishment over the established centre, and thus choose extreme1>extreme2>centre, and then only if enough people have a preference like that, but also still enough stick with traditional preferences, would there reasonably arise a smith set rather than a single Condorcet winner. Intuitively, I'd therefore expect that in real life election scenarios, having no condorcet winner is quite unlikely.

  • @nienke7713
    @nienke7713 Před dnem

    This is a major flaw in approval methods. Approval: Even if everyone prefers A over B, but due to to lack of ranking needs to categorise them as either approved or not approved, and everyone either approves of both or disapproves of both (i.e. nobody approves one one but not the other) then the system is unable to determine this preference despite its existence, and will tie the twoz thus causing B to be a winner as well (and in most systems thisbprafticallybwould mean flipping a coin which could end up choosing B instead of A, even if everyone prefers B). It could also be an issue in cardinal voting methods if the scoring options are limited in such a way that voters are forced to rank some options that are close the same, even if they do have a preference between them (e.g. you can only use integers from 0-10 even though there are 12+ candidates, then you are forced to give the same score to multiple candidates), in that case, despite the unanumous preferences that exist, if they are close enough that all voters give both the same score (different voters can give different scores, as long as on each individual's ballot they receove the same score, e.g. A and B receive a 10 on X's ballot, they both receive a 6 on Y's ballot, and they both receive a 0 on Z's ballot). Arguably, it could even happen if there are enough score options to give everyone a different score, but all voters just feel that the difference between the two is larger than the difference between two score options. The only way to 100% prevent this in cardinal voting is for the scoring to allow as much precision as people desire (e.g. being able to rank one candidate a 7 and another a 7.00000000001 and it actually being possible to make a difference)

  • @nienke7713
    @nienke7713 Před dnem

    I don't think this is too much of an issue, there are various condorcet methods that pick someone from the Smith set as a winner if no winner is found, either directly or by applying a secondary method. That way you'll always pick a condorcet winner if there is one, or pick someone from the smith set if there is no Condorcet winner.

  • @dzendzen6027
    @dzendzen6027 Před dnem

    efil!

  • @hydrogeniongradient3295

    Sir, I thought you have already made a video about that. 🤔

    • @CarneadesOfCyrene
      @CarneadesOfCyrene Před dnem

      I made a video on the Peano postulate that says zero is a natural number. This is the one showing it is the first.

  • @tomholroyd7519
    @tomholroyd7519 Před dnem

    Can you start with the Peano Axioms and derive Set Theory? We can make sets of natural numbers

    • @CarneadesOfCyrene
      @CarneadesOfCyrene Před dnem

      The Peano Postulates can be proven from set theory (that is what we are doing here). I don't know of anyone that has been able to do it the other way around.

  • @someonesomeone25
    @someonesomeone25 Před 2 dny

    Even the satanic temple has a fair bit of nazi influence at its top. An alternative left wing version is the global order.

  • @BruteForce.
    @BruteForce. Před 2 dny

    are a jew?

  • @fransk.rikheim471
    @fransk.rikheim471 Před 2 dny

    Great summary.

  • @dalefletter2524
    @dalefletter2524 Před 3 dny

    Let me try to offer a constructive comment. Yes, a difficult topic demands a long form. You cannot provide both the context, data, and analysis of something as complex as genocide any other way. And I would very much enjoy more of that type. However given the complexity, even a long form video does not always give you enough time. To that end I find the short videos which give background necessary to build up toward the long form and you did a great job providing citations back to prior vids. Yet these seems to be a missing middle. The complexities of international law alone would have been a good topic for a mid-sized video. And the parts of this video could have been broken into three videos rather than all run together. Same amount of work on you but more easily digested for the less committed viewer. The break between vids offers time for reflection and time to go back to cited vids. Still, on the whole obviously great work on an incredibly difficult topic. Thank you.

  • @user-pl1ei9kj3k
    @user-pl1ei9kj3k Před 3 dny

    Dark souls 2

  • @alexplotkin3368
    @alexplotkin3368 Před 3 dny

    Intellectual parlor game that the author stacks the deck for his own self-serving purpose. At 13:00 he describes Jews migrating to Israel from the Middle East and Eastern Europe 'decreasing diversity'? These Jews were fleeing massive intolerance, persecution and violence directed at them! By the author's 'creative logic' Jews should have remained in Eastern Europe and Arab countries, accepted violence and discrimination, to fulfill his lofty objective of diversity? What a bunch of crap. He talks about historical anti-semitism in a fleeting manner as if it's like having a minor headache. When in fact it lnvolvec decades and centuries of discrimination, persecution and violence. To talk about anti-semitism in this way and make NO MENTION of the Holocaust or the expulsion of the Jews from the Arab countries after 1948 shows his self serving intellectual agenda of deligitimizing Zionism.by hiding behind this weaved together intellectual construct. He dies use history to make broad generalizations about the history of Zionism accusing it carte Blanche of always engaging in ethnic cleansing and being against diversity. Meanwhile, Druze, Bedouin and Christian Arabs serve in the Israeli military. There are Arab professors at Israeli colleges. Arab doctors and nurses in Israeli Israeli hospitals. Israel has made countless peace offers to the Palestinians. All turned down. But pull out the blame the current Israeli government for all of the Middle East's problems. The author has shown his true colors by downplaying the suffering of Jews in the USSR, Eastern Europe and the Arab countries before and after World War II. Jews were massacred in Poland in 1946 after the Holocaust. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielce_pogrom The author clearly has zero sympathy for the tragic history of the Jews. No mention of the Holocaust. The stock and trade of intellectuals clearly biased against Jewa. Instead he deliberatley stacks the deck to create this sterile, one sided critique. The author makes broad generalizations about the history of Israel when it supports any perceived criticism. But then fleetingly references abd downplays historic anti-semitism. This is pathetically one sided, simplistic and biased.

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 Před 3 dny

    Do you think words like these have lost any real definition or meaning because over usage by perpetually offended keyboard warriors?

    • @CarneadesOfCyrene
      @CarneadesOfCyrene Před 2 dny

      It raises interesting questions about what determines the meanings of words. Can we have personal uses for words? Does a word change meaning when half of the world starts using it that way? Or does it simply take on a second definition?

    • @akumaking1
      @akumaking1 Před 2 dny

      @@CarneadesOfCyrene you want to make it a focus video?

  • @xxcoldsteelexx
    @xxcoldsteelexx Před 4 dny

    At 57:20, your conclusion of "yes" is not supported by your reasoning. Firstly, it seems like you're conflating "Israel" with "jews". Hamas has stated, in line with your reasoning of what is okay to oppose, that they oppose the "zionist entity", not the state of Israel no matter its form. Secondly, putting aside questions about how many civilians Israel killed with its response, it seems fairly clear that the purpose of the attack was to take hostages for exchange and to destroy Israeli military assets.

  • @GreySteel
    @GreySteel Před 4 dny

    I'm really disappointed that this series has not been completed. I was particularly interested in hearing what you thought Quine would have to say. Please finish. This is valuable.

  • @jocr1971
    @jocr1971 Před 4 dny

    it is not possible as a human to live without beliefs completely. at the very least we must have the belief that our actions are efficacious to achieving the ends we desire. even my dog believes thus.

  • @alexk.4594
    @alexk.4594 Před 4 dny

    i Think it's ridiculous to call what the Israeli's are doing a genocide if 20% how Israëls population are arabs (who for the most part call themselves palestinians too). They are simply doing everything in their power to win this was because they simply cannot afford to lose. You might Think jews are inherently bad like some ideologies believe and therefore say the Israelis are using unnecessary tactics to "punish" the palestinians but i Think that they're trying to secure their state even if it means taking drastic measures. (+the food shortage in Gaza is a complete myth) Don't Forget that if hamas Wins in the long run that would mean the end of Israel the jews inside it, and probably even the arab Israelis (who hamas would consider as collaboraters with the jews just for having citizenship). War is sad and painfull and more Palestinians are dying that Israelis but that's definitly not a genocide.

  • @luckytrinh333
    @luckytrinh333 Před 4 dny

    _Time traveler kicks rock_ *Alvin Turing* 💀

  • @flame-545
    @flame-545 Před 5 dny

    What on earth is this argument ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️I can imagine the boogie man is real that doesn’t mean he is 😭 or big foot

  • @r0b0tcat
    @r0b0tcat Před 5 dny

    You may want to review your own video on the Bottleneck Fallacy. 😂

  • @flywheelshyster6549

    I dont watch enough but i have been subbed and with bell on fir years and years and years. Some days i get the feeling and just binge your stuff. This is a tip i guess. I was just at work its slow and was thinking how progressivism ala Teddy Roosevelt kinda associated with GOP but how and when it became more left or was it always that way 🤔 i sound like a fool trying to be succinct i was just curious dag nammit Happy 4th if American i cant remember i thought you were living in Africa if memory serves

  • @chodzom7287
    @chodzom7287 Před 6 dny

    You can't change the past. There have been many injusticies in the past, but it is impossible to compensate historical inequalities today. We need to live from today and ahead. Trying to repair old injusticies is pointledd, it will never work. The risk is that would create newwer injusticies.

  • @caseymckenzie4760
    @caseymckenzie4760 Před 6 dny

    Most people who think themselves reasonable are actually just following the consensus because they don't have all the necessary information to actually use reason. This often leads to very bad outcomes.

  • @user-sm4sf4ff2i
    @user-sm4sf4ff2i Před 6 dny

    Cheer~~willingness to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own--- openness to new ideas.😊

  • @Dr.Daniela.Mccaffrey

    Great

  • @Gordy-io8sb
    @Gordy-io8sb Před 8 dny

    Sneaky sneaky.

  • @BobHooker
    @BobHooker Před 8 dny

    Since my wife died I have come to see the happy smug atheists as kind of pathetic. I am an atheist and have been for about 45 years. It is a rock solid conviction, but it is perhaps the hardest truth to hold onto when you lose loved ones. Faith is a cowardly cheat that diminishes the humanity of those who hold it, they fail to accept the real 'meaning' to a life with a definite end and no Father God. But few people can hold on to the courage of Atheism's truth when things go bad. Most humans are too cowardly to accept the truth and if Faith was wiped out it would result in grief causing mental collapse and suicide in the majority of people. It would drive most people insane. It is a necessary evil and drug of the world. Atheism is a total personal acceptance of your reality as a human being. It is lonely and terrifying and much, much more than just a lack of belief in a God, it is a deeply moral determination to hold on to your reality no matter what. It requires deep courage at hard times.

  • @BobHooker
    @BobHooker Před 8 dny

    With all due respect I have to call you on the Gaza war. Firstly there is no indication that a culture is being targeted. It is a fact that Israel have provided warnings about where strikes would happen, have allowed people to move to humanitarian areas and have facilitated the movement of food which even the UN had to admit prevented a famine in the region. There is no indication that the IDF is killed Gazans just because they are Gazans as a regular policy nor is there, unlike the people holding the hostages, any effort to change their religion. As for the numbers you quote, I don't know how old this video is but the UN has said that child death number is half of what you showed. Also these numbers, presented only by Hamas, are not broken down by how they were killed. Hamas and Islamic Jihad fire rockets with a significant failure dropping randomly on Gazans. I have seen this happening on videos live from Al Jazeera. The recent drop in deaths reported could very well be due mostly to the lost of rockets. As for school and hospitals, sadly under international law these become valid targets if use by the enemy. The IDF has been fired at from hospitals, there a tunnels and bunker under these hospitals, and perhaps worse a Israel woman was murdered in a hospital. I really respect you work but I wish you had taken more time to talk to somebody else about this, Israelis have addressed these claims and you seem to just take Hamas's numbers as truth

  • @jimweights8908
    @jimweights8908 Před 8 dny

    You can either have group equality or individual equality. You cannot have both. Group equality would involve measuring outcomes at group level setting targets or quotas for outcomes. Individual equality involves having a single set of rules that apply to all; and not judging people based on petty trivialities such as eye skin or hair colour. Group equality people are racist - it is not an opinion- it is the meaning of the word. CRT is racist and people promoting it should be fined, jailed or do community service.

  • @BobHooker
    @BobHooker Před 9 dny

    In Former Mandate of Palestine there are 7 million Arabic Speaking Muslims and 7 million Hebrew Speaking Jews. As I write even the UN has recognised that Israel is not blocking food, that there is not a famine, and the number of children dead you present is 200%, without identification of how old children were or how they died. Given the population of 2.2 million Gazans how can it be argued that their culture is endangered?

  • @sully9937
    @sully9937 Před 10 dny

    DISCLAIMER: I only watched the last 10 minutes Seems to make little sense that Hamas attacks could constitute a "counter genocide". Surely the power imbalance creates an asymmetry in how the definition is applied? Also not sure how fair calling Al Aqsa flood an attack on civilians is. Firstly the argument could be made that settlers aren't civilians. But even assuming that they are its become pretty clear now that it was a military expedition that went haywire with many random people joining in on the violence. Also, the allegations of sexual violence haven't been substantiated even a bit. You should have mentioned this. Overall this just seems like a forced both sides bad take that no one would ever believe regarding South Africa now. That one side is backed by the strongest global empire and the other is literally occupied by them, the idea that this opressed side could commit a genocide on their opressors is just silly. If going from no rights to rights means making Israel unlivable then how can this be considered genocidal? The more i think the more this makes no sense. And if our theory of genocide doesnt account for this power imbalance then its useless.

    • @CarneadesOfCyrene
      @CarneadesOfCyrene Před 9 dny

      A lack of power does not make genocide permissible. Attempting to exterminate an ethnic group from a place is genocide, even if they tried to do it to you first, and even if you are less effective at it than they are. Simply because you are oppressed or out of power, it does morally not allow you to commit a genocide against those who oppress you. The goal of liberation does not justify the means of extermination. Let's look at a few reasons that this is. First, many groups that have committed genocides have claimed to be the oppressed by the group they committed genocide against. Just look at Nazi propaganda that paints Jewish people as the powerful ones controlling society. Look at the economic power still held by Tutsi's before the Rwandan genocide. Early US propaganda against the Native Americans painted them as a powerful foe, and the colonies as the struggling underdog. If genocide is permissible if you believe you are the underdog, then most genocides would be permissible. Genocide is hard enough to prosecute as it is, and you want to make it more difficult? Israel claims it has less power given the opposition of its neighbors to its existence. This is not to claim that they are right, simply to claim that if we include "power" as a requirement for genocide, then many fewer things would be able to be counted as genocide, and many more people would think they are justified in committing genocide because they believed they were the oppressed ones, (even if they weren't). A second way to see why genocide cannot be permissible even when there are different power dynamics it to look at murder. Do you think that you are morally justified in hunting down and killing someone if they killed a member of your family? Maybe you do because Hollywood has glorified revenge vigilante killings in action movies, but that does not make it right. Kant has good reasons for this: it is not generalizable. If you are justified in killing someone that killed your brother, they may be justified in having killed brother, because your brother killed their sister. And their son might be justified in killing you because you killed their father. The cycle of violence continues without stop. That is why we need independent institutions to stop these things. I agree that in this case the international institutions are deeply broken and the US’s support for Israel prevents them from working effectively. But that does not make genocide morally permissible. Third, and closely connected to this idea of cyclical violence is the point that a “counter genocide” will never lead to peace. You are making the case that this is justified because it is the only way to get liberation or rights for the people. But this is problematic for multiple reasons. First, it is not the only way. There are ways to provoke international outrage without stating that your goal is the elimination of an entire people. There are many military options that don’t require the targeting of civilians. South Africa was able to throw off apartheid by protest and international pressure. Second, violence against civilians does not lead to peace and will only further entrench the forces that want to ensure violence continues instead of building a coalition on both sides towards a peaceful resolution. Liberation will not be achieved by worsening the atrocities committed. That will only strengthen the forces on each side that do not want the conflict to end. Fourth, the issue with conditioning genocide on power is that if a group out of power starts a genocide and is successful in it, at some point, they become in power and at some point, that genocide would therefore become immoral. However, genocides are hard to stop once they have started. As a prerequisite, the people need to be fed propaganda arguing that their oppressors are inhuman and deserve to die. That belief becomes entrenched and simply because you started winning the war, few will think that you should stop. The Hutus and the Tutsis are a clear example of this. The Hutus were oppressed by the Tutsis for a long time, so when they took power and eventually started murdering their former oppressors, they thought they were justified. How many innocent people needed to die before the Tutsis were no longer powerful enough to be considered oppressors? Fifth, is the problem of children. You might make the case that all adults in a society are complicit in the oppression of a people (though I would argue this is wrong since there are plenty of adults in any society that are protesting or actively opposed to their government’s policies). But that argument cannot apply to children. Children have no power in a society, even if they are born into the most powerful community on earth, a toddler still cannot contribute to oppression, nor can they be held liable for it. Yet genocide requires the elimination of children too. That all said, it does seem that greater power confers greater responsibility. I don’t think that genocide is ever morally justifiable. But the more power that a group has in a situation, the worse the crime is. But that does not mean that groups out of power can’t commit genocide.

    • @JadeVanadiumResearch
      @JadeVanadiumResearch Před 9 dny

      @@CarneadesOfCyrene I don't think their point was that a lack of power makes genocide permissible, I think their point was that a lack of power makes it impossible. To give an extreme example, I would say that an attempted genocide in which 0 people are affected doesn't really deserve to be called a genocide, even if there was intent. This is obviously not the case with Hamas, since they have affected thousands, but it's to illustrate the point that the magnitude of impact seems to matter a lot for whether a particular label is applicable. I definitely agree with you that attempted genocide is reprehensible even if it ends in the absolute failure of the perpetrators, but I also don't think it's responsible to equivocate crimes of massively differing magnitudes. If we are interested in reducing harm as much as possible, it's of paramount importance to recognize and analyze the material reality of power imbalances. An attempted genocide in which 1000 people die is already an atrocity, and yet a genocide in which 30000 people die is clearly 30 times worse. Time and energy spent pushing against the latter saves 30 times more lives than time and energy spent pushing back against the former. The power imbalance between Israel and Hamas really is this severe. If someone spends 2 minutes criticizing the crimes of Hamas, then I will praise them, if and only if they also spend another 58 minutes criticizing Israel and the IDF. Similarly, if someone writes 6 paragraphs criticizing Hamas, I will praise them, if and only if they write another 180 paragraphs criticizing Israel and the IDF.

    • @sully9937
      @sully9937 Před 9 dny

      @CarneadesOfCyrene the guy above me is correct. I did not say a counter genocide is permissible based on power imbalance, I'm proposing it's IMPOSSIBLE for a less powerful group to genocide a more powerful group. Not that the moral status of genocide changes. This is why i said a counter genocide is a nonsensical concept. If a resistance force becomes more powerful than their oppressive force and continues to slaughter, then they enter the realm of theoretically being capable of genocide. As for how we decide this, I also think you unnecessarily obfuscate what power means. We can be crudely material in this sense. The Palestinian claim that they are under an apartheid, a blockade, and a genocide is born out in the material conditions. Israel's claim that their neighbours are hostile could simply be a state pathology in theory. But even if it wasn't, this victimhood of a power imbalance has nothing to do with the Palestinians! It's so tertiary and convoluted an argument to say, "Egypt, Iran and Lebanon scare us, so we must massacre this fourth population of people." It is a much weaker claim of a lack of power than the Palestinian claim. Finally, violent resistance absolutely works and has worked throughout history. Proposing that only non violent diplomacy ends conflicts is skipping to the end result without understanding what got each party there. Almost every resolution is preceded by bloodshed which moves the margins in X or Y sides direction before compromise. South Africa doesn't end apartheid as quickly or at all without violent resistance. Was the Haitian slave revolt wrong? Was Nat Turner wrong to violently resist (in abstraction away from his killing of women/children)? But I suspect you don't disagree, you'd just not categorise this as genocide. In which case Hamas cannot be accused of it either.

  • @jamesrandall9489
    @jamesrandall9489 Před 10 dny

    I really like the longer styles of videos. I stopped watching videos on this channel a while ago because I was frustrated by how a short they were, but I really enjoyed this one and I’d watch more of them. Doesn’t bother me at all if they are infrequent.

  • @shaikazaz9157
    @shaikazaz9157 Před 10 dny

    Fact check: The first genocide you said israel has made, the nakbah, began when Arab nations like Syria, Iraq Jorden, Egypt, including the Palestinians, rejected the UN 2 states' proposal and declared a war, from all sides, on israel. Indeed israel has occupied land, but this is not genocide. For the claim that israel is doing genocide in the current war with hamas, I will ask this: israel has 20% Arabs citizens which more then 90% of them define them selves as Palestinians also for all the plastianias in the west bank israel is doing nothing of thrthings you mentioned that israel is doing in this the current war which considers as acts of genocide. so is israel doing a genocide on Palestinians? Indeed there is a terrible war in Gaza, also innocent people are dieing . but if you accept the idea that a group of people can defend them selves and fight against other group, which addressing most of there resources to eliminate the first group, then ask your self how can it be done in the Gaza war if hamas use civil facilities as military bases, because they are civil facilities. please chek the bases that were located in under hospitals, schools and un facilities. one last thing: israel has never ever targeted workers of humanitarian organizations. but Indeed 2 things has happened, the first I's that the Idf has mistakenly killed people from humanitarian organizations in 2 tragic accidents during the war. the second, which acciur many times, israel has tagelty killed terrorist which also worked in Un organization like unra. there are many videos of unra workers which fought with hamas, and as hamas fighters in October 7th. you can check everything I noted here.

    • @CarneadesOfCyrene
      @CarneadesOfCyrene Před 9 dny

      Let’s speak to each of these points in turn. First on the Nakba. The United Nations announced a plan to remove a people from a place without the agreement of those people. That constitutes a genocide. Just because they announced their intentions ahead of time and got buy-in from the international community does not mean it was not genocide. Think of it this way. If the UN decided that the state of Israel would be eliminated tomorrow, and the Palestinian and Arab armies marched in and executed or expelled all of the Jewish people there, that would be a genocide. Even if other countries came to Israel’s aid and started fighting against the Palestinians. Even if it had the support of the entire international community. Even if the UN offered Israel a deal that they rejected. It would still be genocide. Arab-Israelis face substantial persecution from Israeli authorities including arrests, interrogations, expulsions, and threats from Israeli defense forces. Remember that enacting the conditions that would destroy a part or whole of a group constitutes genocide. Also remember that the elimination of a group from a place is sufficient to constitute genocide. The Nazis didn’t need to try to kill all the Jews in America to commit genocide against them. Just all the Jews in Germany. Similarly, attacking all the Palestinians in Gaza is sufficient to constitute genocide, even if there were not active attacks against the Palestinians in the West Bank. Next, let’s talk about self-defense. If someone invades your home and attacks you, you might be justified in killing them. But would you be justified in marching into their home and murdering their children? Probably not. Would you be justified in destroying the homes of everyone in their neighborhood? Certainly not. Listen to the rhetoric of Israeli politicians. They don’t just want to kill Hamas, they want to kill every Palestinian. They claim they are all guilty. They claim they are human animals, have called for bombing without mercy. That is what makes this genocide. Finally, let’s talk about humanitarian workers. Israel has killed over 250 humanitarian workers over the course of the war. Sure, Israel claims that these were all accidents, but it is unlikely that would admit to committing war crimes. Human Rights Watch has documented 8 separate instances where the IDF purposely targeted humanitarian convoys and premises in Gaza despite being provided with the coordinates of those groups. This coupled with the refusal to allow food aid into the country with the goal of creating a famine is clearly genocidal. Also, there is no evidence that any members of UNRWA were party to the October 7th attack, beyond the Israeli unjustified assertion. Seen another way, this is a method used to demonize humanitarian workers to justify the Israeli government’s attacks on them and further contribute to the genocide.

    • @shaikazaz9157
      @shaikazaz9157 Před 9 dny

      for your first point: in the video you claimed that the nakba genocide has been done by israel. now you claim that the un declaration is the act of genocide. so I think you should correct yourself in video. as for the Arab Israelis. look I live in israel there are so many counter examples of Arab israelies how define them selves as Palestinians, which succeeds well in the Israeli society. you can see it in the high tech industry, wealth care, economics, and domestic tourism and all over the sectors, maybe except the military. there also examples which justifi a claim of discrimination, but it is not built in the institution. I think it is the same when black people claim for discrimination in the US. I think all over the world you can see discrimination between one ethnic group against the other. Indeed this is not justification but it is still different from genocide. Also regard to some of the things that I believe you talked about by some of the Israelis politicians, yes they are bad and can be, some cases, considered to be encouraging genocide, this is a shame for israel indeed and I hope they won't reelected ( israel IS democracy), but the israel official policy is not close to genocide even if we judge by the things that israel is doing in Gaza. Regarding to idf acts in Gaza. first israel is indeed (and I'm 100% support this will) tring to eliminate ALL hamas terrorists, this is a official declaration which is supported by the US and other countries (including some Arab ones). giving that this goal it self is not considered to be a genocide. we need to focus our arguments if israel is acutely doing so in the field. now, I know that innocent children died in Gaza by the idf, and I and many other israelies are sorry for that. but the thing is that it mostly hamas's blame (also some israel blame again mistake, look for how many idf solders were killed by the idf itself) when military bases are located in civil facilities so civilians will die that is a claim in probability theory. for last claim I will say that if you deny the fact the humanitarian organizations worker like unrwa didn't participate in the October 7th attack I can't argue with you. I think you should re-investigate this issue before you publish claims based on lies or ignorance in your videos. BTW, except this poor video, I really like your channel. so I will happy to keep watching your channel.

    • @vondas1480
      @vondas1480 Před 7 dny

      @@CarneadesOfCyreneinb4 evicting tenets is a g enocide I’m glad for this video showing why the word is meaningless . “Moving people out of a place” is not something worth getting worked up over, destroying cultures in 99.9% of cases is a good thing. Unless it’s violent+racist g enocide there is nothing morally wrong.

  • @m7md7sien
    @m7md7sien Před 10 dny

    This perfectly make sense at beginning. However when we apply it on negation. OB(p) > ~OB(~p) makes sense, if something is obliagatory, then it's negation can't be obliagtory. However when we apply it on ~OB(p): ~OB(p) > ~~OB(~p) = OB(~p) which meansif something is not obligatory (optional or impermissible) then it's neagation is obligatory. This is true if p was impermissible, but not if p is optional. How is that possible? Did I miss something?

  • @thomaskrawford7363
    @thomaskrawford7363 Před 10 dny

    I agree yet CRT’s goal of equity expansion is often clouded by way too many words. We need to be more concise.

  • @abstraction6212
    @abstraction6212 Před 10 dny

    Im a God loathing Dystheist and proud of it.

  • @mrmartywaring
    @mrmartywaring Před 10 dny

    I believe philosophy is a great major & very interesting. The challenge for some people could be what career path to choose if a person does not want to pursue graduate school

  • @alphaomega1089
    @alphaomega1089 Před 11 dny

    Best to refer to individuals as they wish to be named, or don't speak to them. If your name is Bob, why call you Alice without permission? Free speech comes with a caveat: beware of the buyer; they may wish you to take it back and demand a refund! You don't have to talk to the police! It's best not to! You don't have to defend yourself in a court of law, best you do - despite being advised against it: why; if someone learned and wise is willing to defend you, there might be legitimate support for your actions.