What is the Package Deal Fallacy?

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  • čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
  • An explanation of the Package Deal Fallacy, a combination of the fallacy of correlation always implying causation and the problem of induction.
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Komentáře • 19

  • @allank8497
    @allank8497 Před 7 měsíci +4

    this is everywhere in socialism vs capitalism debates

    • @nosteinnogate7305
      @nosteinnogate7305 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Probably because its economics and economics is very complex.

  • @robmann400
    @robmann400 Před 7 měsíci

    Have you ever noticed that Clark always seems to disappear just before Superman shows up?

  • @Opposite271
    @Opposite271 Před 7 měsíci

    It seems only fallacious if one interprets such a argument as a infallible proof or as a deductive argument. If it is only meant to increase the likelihood for causation then this argument might still be acceptable.
    Also it seems like that this assumes a counterfactual view of causation. Although a regularity view might still deal with the problem of induction.

  • @Lamster66
    @Lamster66 Před 7 měsíci

    Damn and I thought this was the assumption that a car with unlimited mileage would be included in the price :(
    Seriously though most employers commit this fallacy in assuming that manual workers and low intelligence are a package deal!

  • @RecapSensei-vn3xh
    @RecapSensei-vn3xh Před 7 měsíci +1

    Claiming that someone who enjoys painting must also be a terrible chef is a package deal fallacy, as artistic talent in one domain doesn't necessarily correlate with culinary skills.

  • @InventiveHarvest
    @InventiveHarvest Před 7 měsíci +1

    I see philosophers committing this fallacy a lot. They call it modus ponens.

    • @AlbertKamut
      @AlbertKamut Před 7 měsíci

      I learned in undergrad that it isn’t always a fallacy and philosophy generally accepts it as a valid form of argument.
      I hadn’t considered how often ponens and tollens could be misused! Good catch :)

    • @nosteinnogate7305
      @nosteinnogate7305 Před 7 měsíci +1

      No. Modus ponens is premised on the fact that A->B holds. If it doesnt, like the package fallacy could establish, then modus ponens doesnt even get to be used.

    • @InventiveHarvest
      @InventiveHarvest Před 7 měsíci

      @@nosteinnogate7305 the package fallacy is also premised on the fact that A->B holds. The lesson here is that premises are not always true.

    • @nosteinnogate7305
      @nosteinnogate7305 Před 7 měsíci

      @@InventiveHarvest No. The package fallacy shows it is fallacious to assume A->B holds from (a few) (A and B)-observations.

    • @InventiveHarvest
      @InventiveHarvest Před 7 měsíci

      @@nosteinnogate7305 How many observations does modus ponens require?