The Swampfox Justice II is SHOCKINGLY good
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- čas přidán 23. 05. 2024
- Quality big window red dots USED to cost a lot of money. Swampfox is putting a bunch of pressure on the market making people ask "Why would I spend 2x for that when there's this?
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glad to see more affordable dots hit the market. I remember the dark times when Holosun was not reliable, and spending $450 on a RMR was the only option.
RMR Master Race
Yeah that wasn’t great times
My first red dot was a Swampfox because I didn’t want to spend a lot on something I wasn’t sure I’d like. It’s still going strong 4 years later. FYI, they have a veteran discount.
Ya I messaged them less than hour they got back to me on veteran discount. 10 min later I ordered stuff 🤣
Love the guys at swampfox and I’m pulling for them to give us competition gear we can use. I’ll
Give this one a shot
Holy cow...I gambled & just ordered one yesterday since there aren't enough reviews on it.
No sacred cows.
I’ve been running a green one of these since they launched last year and have been pleasantly surprised. I shoot a few matches per month and have a few thousand rounds through it without an issue.
I'd be interested in a bro-science video where you mount different optics to the same gun and time/score yourself to see just what impact the window size has on performance.
Hell yeah , Just got the multi reticle version for my SSDR920P . Taking it to the range for the first time tmo morning. Awesome timing !
I've had the first-gen Justice on my Rival for two years and it's been great. It's limited to a 3 MOA reticle only, so seeing the second-gen now available in 6 MOA pleases me. Definitely an upgrade I'd like to make, especially since I paid $215 for the first one.
"Hunting Cardboard" - ha!
Have had a Justice on a Canik for a couple years. Not the pistol I shoot most often but it has been trouble free.
Swampfox punches above their weight class. Might've been because of Mike.
Love my swampfox. I have a liberty2 on my prodigy, Justice2 on my Canik Rival and original Justice on my Echelon
I’m mostly a Holosun guy, but bought a couple Swamp Foxes. They are better & more reliable than Sig or Vortex.
How they compare to Trijicon?
@@thefrogking481trijis are the best overall
Just ordered one to put on my DWX optics ready!!!!
I love this optic. I have been running this for uspsa and 3 gun for the last 2 months and it works
I have had mine on for about 1k rounds. It’s really good .
Looks great I'll have to check it out
Mine has held up very well.
I have the original Justice on my P10s which is my daily carry most of the time and I have not had any issues with it and seems to be rugged enough for most applications
Been running an original Justice for years and it has been excellent.
I have the Gen 1 Justice and this is my second competition season running it. They are solid competition options for sure.
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Thank you!
Gotta love sensible screw heads for the battery compartment, the hex head is an order of magnitude better than the 3 nanometer deep 4km wide flat/cross shaped cutouts most top loading battery compartments have.
That’s a perfect description
I purchased this dot and have to say its a very good solution overall. I put this onto a 12guage shotgun and thus far a great dot. Really like the window size and the reticle and price!
You ani't kidding I have this optic on my Sig X-Ten and I love it
1:52 Trijicon RMR HD has entered the chat.
And yes I heard you say "Generally speaking" but still felt compelled to point out that there's at least on good cantilevered option.
all for the low low price of $645
I got a few of these when they released. Excellent and oddly the dot is more clear than anything I've used to date. I have pretty bad astigmatism and this is the only green dot I've used that is ultra clear. I'd like to see a torture test on one.
I now only come here for the dad jokes
I own this optic and love it. No problems so far
I’ve had good luck with swampfox.
Seems like a pretty high deck height. Good to see both red and green reticle.
I have the original Liberty on M&P 10mm and Sentinel on P365, no issues on both. I only have 370 rounds through Sentinel and only 290 rounds through the Liberty, but it includes a few boxes of spicy Underwoods. I did use a C&H plate on the 10mm, not the stock plastic one. Swampfox seems to be doing the right thing and moving in the right direction. Time will tell. (I am not qualified to advise or recommend anything. I try to be humble and when I grow up maybe I can also be a marksman).
Great content as always
noticed a few of you triples taps looked like doubles taps very nice
was playing with the trigger seeing how absurd I could get it to go.
I got one for the low low. I really like the features. I will say though, i had to file the bottom. It’s not trued, causing it to not sit flush on the plate.
I’d like to see a review on more budget optics. Companies to buy or stay away from.
How about the Mecanik M03! The competition optic of choice for those who dad on a budget. 😉
I was just looking at both of these (MO3 & Swampfox Liberty II) are about the same price. Justice II is bigger (30mm) for the same price. Maybe Justice II is a better option?
Justice 2 is 7075 vs the M03 6061 alluminum also like HM said the 6moa version can be had under $200 .the M03 looks good but the Justice 2 is just better build quality and price wise. And I'm a big canik fan saying this I own 4 caniks and still went Swampfox over mecanik
I didn't even know they made bass fishing shorts... 😂
Zing!
These cheap chinese rds's are actually pretty good. I've got a different one, a gideon omega, that's been holding up but I've only shot less than 1000 through it so far. It was $150 and it's got the SRO aesthetic which I think is the coolest looking red dot.
Run a Swampfox Sentinel on my Ruger Max9…great little optic I chose after you gave it a favorable review way back…still very happy with it. Rock on, my dad dude 👍🏻
Looks like a fraternal twin of the Gideon Omega. I know there is history there.
just got my 2nd gideon omega today. been happy with the first one so far.
They are different enough - window geometry
I have several Swampfox Optics: Sentinel 2, Liberator 1&2, Kraken & the Trihawk. I tried the brand out because they were more budget & looked solid after some research. Initially, however, I looked at them because they have "Fox" in the name, so I had to lol. They haven't disappointed yet (except the lack of availability in the green micro prism Raider sight, which I'd love to get my hands on). How does this Justice 2 sight stack up to the Mecanik(?) line of dot sights? I have a Canik S Dark Side & I'm wondering which would be better for competition...
I feel like this would be smooth on that thick boi beretta APX A1 full size 🎉
I love my justice 1 I bet this one is even better
Awesome thanks for the video! Will have to grab one or a few of these babies for sure 200ish or less for bigger window and 6 moa is ideal! Seems like you hit the big time now that you have got some random troll/bot comments congrats.
I became my own hero with the bot comments
Loved the dad joke
Kept telling people this optic is the sleeper optic of 2024 in the gamer world. Got my 6moa for 170. Still not going to a match without the SRO on the backup but its worthy giving the justice 2 a solid shot.
I had a sentinel and it was so incompetently made I had to send it back and get a replacement, I sold whatever they sent me back and never paid attention to anything they did since but this looks intriguing
Swampfox and Holosun 💕
Need good recommendation for my Tavor, always been a Romeo 5 guy but want a bigger window. 510C maybe?
Look at rifle dots over pistol dots, like our Liberator II or even our Raider 1x micro prism. We've shot the latter on our X95 and it's one of the best combos we have!
It's got to be better than the burning sun of my rmsx 8moa in low light
I hope it's better than the *two* Swampfox Sentinels I had. Both, *on the very first shot* , lost zero (like on one the dot went from the center of the window to the upper right-hand corner) and ran out of adjustment trying to get it back. To their credit, Swampfox *did* replace both of them with no hassle at all (just a couple of entirely relevant questions), but by then, I had just sucked it up and put Trijicons on my pistols. As others have stated, your milage may vary.
the emitter wasn't glued to the carrier properly and they came from the same batch - would be my guess.
@@TheHumbleMarksman Both were bought within a couple of weeks of each other and what you’re describing sounds reasonable. It just kind of poisoned me on the brand. But… Like others have said, Holosun used to be unreliable and they grew out of it, so maybe Swampfox has as well.
Should have thrown some shade at Vortex.
Agreed
Cheap optics are cool.
No Justice Two? 💸🤨😉
Great stuff. It's a shame that the RMR footprint has become the standard.
Yep, four posts are better than two.
Does this optic fit the IDPA carry optics box?
The box has a cutout for optics - not sure I understand the ask
how does the window size compare to the Ceilee Bull Pro????
Nothing comes close to the Bull
Justice II is 28mm W x 23mm H, while Bull Pro is 34.5mm x 26mm. But, the Bull is significantly wider and a bit taller.
What 1911 style were your showcasing there?
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@TheHumbleMarksman Looks sweet.
Once you get over a certain price threshold, do you think there are major differences between those tier pistols?
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Wife dropped my Mako and cracked the Crimson Trace's hood and glass popped out. Just put it back in and glued it. Worked fine....but found I was much faster and Just as accurate to 15 yds.
…with irons.
High five ✋️
I purchased one and the dot went out while sighting it in. Changed the battery and while shooting a steel match the dot kept going out. Sent it back and getting my money back. I could never trust it again. Other than that it was nice.
sorry to hear you got a dud.
@@TheHumbleMarksman I was disappointed for sure as I liked it up until then.
@@robertrussell3158 for what it’s worth - that was an emitter that wasn’t glued on properly - it happens to ALL brands - I know personally of two Trijicon SRos with same issue. The instance of it is lower because their QC is tighter and they catch more of it - but that’s part of why they cost more.
Where the one from the mecanik mo3
Working on it
I liked my swapfox until it died on me at a class. Only had it for maybe a few months. About 1,000 rounds with it
Make sure to get it warrantied.
Could I carry this optic ?
you could but that wouldn't be my first choice.
Will it survive the shadow 2
can any of them?
@@TheHumbleMarksman 🤣🤣🤣
So, how long until the RMR fans start lobbying for shoots to include a Drop Drill?
They should have named it the "windshield" .. lol.
Actually the Justice II has a huge "windshield"! 30mm vs 24mm on the Liberty II.
Bud's is $177
This or the RXM-300?
This
This vs RTS2v5?
For slide ride I would say Swampfox for a scope mount still RTS2
@@TheHumbleMarksman Right on. I still love my RTS2 on my blackmamba 22 pistol.
I like optics but I get yelled at every time I buy one by my wife/CEO who puts me through an entire sit down meeting to justify my expenditure and provide an ROI analysis. I've been hoping someone would start popping out some optics that don't suck and fall under the petit cash account. Maybe I'll check one of these out.
Me, oh cool he says it’s a budget red dot let’s watch. Yep looks interesting let’s check how much….hmmm your budget optic is not my budget optic. It’s twice as much as the new olight where I am.
I can’t accommodate local economies
@@TheHumbleMarksman I know. I just got excited. I’m looking for something for competition
Budget optic on a not at all budget gun. Why tho.
because I legit like it better than an SRO.
SRO who? Look, I can also hang into the ejection port getting hit by brass, possibly causing malfunctions and look like a coal miner within 200 rounds. Wait! I do it cheaper. Biiiig window!
I need a big window mailbox on a diet.
That aside, how do they do with the sun towards you with that glass & coating?
I wouldn't mind the 1632 if I could get them easily. 2032 every shop, every gas station and good brands too. Overall, someone should make optic variants of those batteries. They have their flaws.
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Dad joke power!
Drop tests would’ve been nice
lol no
Interesting as Osight is marketed in the same segment but all it takes is one youtuber trying to beat crap out of it and conclude it lost zero for everyone to say as if the product is complete crap.
not a fan of how fat that deck is, but I guess if you just use it for competition shooting it's okay.
Some optics who shall remain nameless are wayy overpriced and overrated.......
Good joke lol
I really want to like it but have a hard time since it is made in the CCP country.
two words- made in China. pass, thx.
Two? 🤔
Just cant seem to buy chinese optics.