SHOT Show 2024 - C-More RTS3 announced
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- čas přidán 23. 01. 2024
- C-More Systems was at SHOT Show 2024 and announced the new competition optic - the RTS3. It's pretty rad.
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Cmore missed a golden opportunity to gain market share by changing the footprint to what is effectively the industry standard: RMR. Instead they kept it on the RTS2B footprint basically no one uses and its almost double the price of the RTS2B.
You can tell who takes competition shooting seriously and who doesn't just by this video. The optic was designed around IPSC (USPSA). I have always liked the RTS2 more then any of the other dots. Had it on open guns, CO guns, and limited optics guns.
I will maybe get one of these but not for the MSRP. Ill let it come down some first.
Yall really dropped the ball by not calling it the C more butts...
Cmore BTS
Amen
But what's the price opposed to an SRO
MSRP is 749. SRO MSRP is 783. Street for SRO is 530 (Amazon).
@Soloman021 they screwed the pooch on that one.
Excellent overview! I'm loving your short, quick to the point, overviews of the new products coming out at Shot Show 2024.
Enjoying your Shot Show ‘24 coverage, keep it coming 👍🏻
Thanks for a great report. I'm a huge CMore fan and this is pretty exciting. With my old eyes I prefer a 12 moa dot so, I'll be waiting for that before buying, but I'm way excited that I'll be able to swap out my RTS2s for the 3 on the slides I've had milled to for the RTS2! Thanks again and I really like your channel - keep up the good work!
What size range do the dots come in? Can I get an 8 or even 10 moa dot?
David, did you also see that the emitter is enclosed?
would love to see a video on auto brightness red dots especially the new cuda rx-795 vs the trijicon rmr hd and any others that have that feature
Considering it’s shorter than the rts/r3 cut, I wonder if it will fit in the DPP cut.
Bolt spacing is the same between these foot prints and I believe bolt location is similar.
I would like to Cmore.
Can you do a review on the Swampfox Justice 2 with the 6 moa dot?
Are the adjustment screws and the erector cluster still made out of liquid mercury?
On a serious note does it stick with the STS/RTS footprint? One of the bigger factors with RTS2's (all versions) shaking themselves to death long term thats not related to the electronics is the STS/RTS footprint, some nordic IPSC guys did some fancy math analysis of the physics of recoil and the footprints screw-recoil boss placement and found it negatively impacts the harmonics of the transfer of energy leading to move violent movement of the optic. If C-More changed the footprint to something like the DPP/Romeo (not the Romeo 3 which is STS/RTS) or RMR-alike that would help with longevity and also adoption, having to get a STS/RTS specific plate is a big deterrent to non open division guys.
Can't freaking wait for the release!!! C-More please just take my money NOW!!! Was on their website and it has 2 NV settings which tells me that the dot brightness/dimmer settings adjustability has been improved and it states shake awake and longer battery life. BUYING 2!!! C-MORE JUST TAKE MY FREAKING MONEY
I missed the NV settings - that's a real sweet feature - I was grouping my open gun on a cloudy day and was like "I sure would appreciate an extra click or two down" just this past weekend.
On website it states 2 NV and 10 day light settings. With the shake and wake wonder how much longer the battery life will be?
Wonder if they fixed the brightness for indoor use.
This one was appropriate for the dimly lit event hall - not quite as dark as most indoor ranges - I didn’t think to turn it down more.
Would have rather seen an RTS3XL instead of RTS3Max, maybe they’ll offer both in the future. I find rectangular windows much more preferred to round.
6 more months? damn
CMore! Did they pull your dad joke card?
Any clue on the smallest dot size for RTS3? I wish they make 1 MOA
1moa sucks for pistols. On rifles with magnifiers maybe (unless EOTech which is projected into infinity), but why on earth would you want a wiggly dot?
2-4moa if you really love precision shooting, 6-10moa if you love dynamic shooting.
@@texasranger24 I shoot SRO 1 MOA in Carry Optics. My astigmatism makes that 1 moa as big as 6 MOA or so.
@@Delfinchik ok, that at least makes sense. Even if the general idea should be to have a big dot, low brightness setting, no blooming, and maybe even yellow/red tinted glasses for more contrast.
I hunt with hand gun I am a 1 Moa fan
@@texasranger24
Even without astigmatism, there are applications fop 1moa dots. Not everyone is solely in uspsa & ipsc.
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YES! Thank you this is the most exciting thing for me at shot show!
How are you even supposed to mount this to a handgun? I don't see anyone making plates or milling slides for it
CMore has always had adapter plates for their optics to the normal pistols manufacturers slide optic setups.
I’ll stick with my SRO.
They didn't change the footprint or lower the height???
Why would they? RTS footprint is a major footprint. Deck height is valid
@@TheHumbleMarksman I want to put it on my SS Dr920p.
That doesn’t help for sure
10k rounds is not an adequate standard for a modern dot. I doubt that's the only testing they have done, and if that's the only number they can stay behind it means the dot is shit.
I wasn't expecting anything different tbh, cmore has always prioritized anything but reliability.
10k is actually a pretty standard DV testing protocol - you may disagree but that’s in line with what the industry does these days
So this is like the handyman hal rip off of blippi. Just call it the cmore sro already. Just with a footprint nobody uses.
In Europe the RTS2 is the most dominant optic by a lot. The US market tends to favor the RMR cut - but this optic is superior to the SRO in window size, dot and glass clarity. They also will offer it in reticle sizes that make sense for pistols and not nonsense that mil-bros will think people will like on a pistol - but not the larger MOA offerings prized in competition. I prefer my RTS2s to my SROs. I prefer this to those by a good bit.
In europe SRO costs between 1100 and 1200 euros (around 900-1000 before covid and everything else).
That's the reason it never got popular.
rts3max
Yeah kinda
Sro is dying is my prediction
SRO will die from the Holosun 507 Comp if it does, not this. Cmore went with the same footprint as the RTS2 that nobody uses. Everyone makes a plate for the RMR footprint. I can't use a Cmore sight on any of my competition guns (Prodigy and Walther). Only my Victory has a plate mount for the RTS2.
@@Soloman021agreed. Why we aren’t adopting a single footprint is dumb. Everyone acts like the rmr footprint isn’t the most popular. I’m all for standardizing a footprint like the acro or something but right now the rmr foot print rules the nest.
@@swiftaudiRMSC should be the standard going forward. It is the only currently existing footprint that can easily accommodate all optic designs, open and closed emitter, and full size and slim.
Sets way too high
No RMR footprint is a big fat no for me.
The price is not beautiful at all , it’s about $750 🤦🏻♂️
Yeah they didn’t tell me that part - yikes.
@@TheHumbleMarksman I hope it will go down with time, I like the company a lot 👍🏻
507COMP>this nonsense
Not really. If you like distorts glass and weird reticles.