I mean just think about how history might've gone ifnthey really had a son. That son would've been King of France and Scotland and eventually of England and Ireland. It would've changed the course of history dramatically.
@@EMPuello87 Well in reality you can't really blame them. They were married for little more than two years before Fancis died and in that time definitely tried for an heir as Mary had a pseudopregnancy. They just didn't have enough time as Francis died so young.
Well Mary’s son in real life James I and IV was king of England, Scotland and Ireland. But yeah if she and Francis had a son then their son could’ve ruled over 4 kingdoms.
Unlikely the English hated the french very much during that time they would not want england to be overtaken by a french king even if he shared blood with one of there recent kings Elizabeth would not have named that child her heir.
@hafeez asif Well, it really didn't matter whether Elizabeth I. named him her heir - he'd have a claim on the throne anyway as descendant of Margaret Tudor, and there was no person alive with a better claim on the throne. It's not like the cases where there were multiple claimants, and it could've been argued whose claim was better (as was the case with Mary and Elizabeth themselves who both had a claim and argued theors was the stronger claim). It was out of the question fornall of Europe, that Mary and her descendants were the only and rightful heirs, should Elizabeth I. die without issue. The only way to change that would've been for Elizabeth I. to marry and have children of her own. Until she did that, Mary and her descendants remained in the line of succession and Elizabeth's rightful heir, no matter what she thought about it.
I know people bash Mary of Guise, but Mary of Guise had a huge amount of responsibilities. She couldn't live in the bubble of privilege that Mary Stuart had in France.
@@jeanniemoskal4270 Mary never had to deal with what her mother and other really involved monarchs had to. For a woman, back then, rape was something that happened and should be punished, but it was something that with time, healing would happen. Mary of Guise wasn't told by Mary right away, so how could Mary's mother have known? Mary's accusation that she was just a pawn in her mother's lust for power was grossly unfair mainly since that is what royals knew themselves to be. They had a JOB and had to do it well for the sake of millions. Mary drove me nuts this season mainly since Mary would not LET UP on the people who WANTED to help her out. Catherine, Mary of Guise, even FRANCIS kept telling her the realities of their way of life. So really, this had nothing to do with any kind of bullshit 'feelings' that Mary had. Mary of Guise was NEVER negligent of Mary, she just had to take broader things into consideration.
It speaks volumes, she was usually ok with a woman's touch she didn't shy away but she doesn't feel safe with her mother at all. That's such a sad existence not to feel safe with the one person you should feel the safest with.
@@avascott3104 she was raped being touched by anyone was very hard for a time especially with men. It was just extremely sad to see this reaction with her mother it's obvious she doesn't feel sage or comfortable with her. :( poor Mary
@@KrazyKendra290 that wasn’t true in her real life, Mary adored her mom and she confided in her for everything, and her mother visited her one time in France and didn’t returned because she had be in Scotland
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I mean just think about how history might've gone ifnthey really had a son. That son would've been King of France and Scotland and eventually of England and Ireland. It would've changed the course of history dramatically.
That was Francois & Mary short-sight, they should’ve been on it.
@@EMPuello87 Well in reality you can't really blame them. They were married for little more than two years before Fancis died and in that time definitely tried for an heir as Mary had a pseudopregnancy. They just didn't have enough time as Francis died so young.
Well Mary’s son in real life James I and IV was king of England, Scotland and Ireland. But yeah if she and Francis had a son then their son could’ve ruled over 4 kingdoms.
Unlikely the English hated the french very much during that time they would not want england to be overtaken by a french king even if he shared blood with one of there recent kings Elizabeth would not have named that child her heir.
@hafeez asif Well, it really didn't matter whether Elizabeth I. named him her heir - he'd have a claim on the throne anyway as descendant of Margaret Tudor, and there was no person alive with a better claim on the throne. It's not like the cases where there were multiple claimants, and it could've been argued whose claim was better (as was the case with Mary and Elizabeth themselves who both had a claim and argued theors was the stronger claim). It was out of the question fornall of Europe, that Mary and her descendants were the only and rightful heirs, should Elizabeth I. die without issue.
The only way to change that would've been for Elizabeth I. to marry and have children of her own. Until she did that, Mary and her descendants remained in the line of succession and Elizabeth's rightful heir, no matter what she thought about it.
I know people bash Mary of Guise, but Mary of Guise had a huge amount of responsibilities. She couldn't live in the bubble of privilege that Mary Stuart had in France.
That’s very true, her mother protected her and she took the responsibility to rule Scotland so mary could be safe at French court
@@jeanniemoskal4270 Mary never had to deal with what her mother and other really involved monarchs had to. For a woman, back then, rape was something that happened and should be punished, but it was something that with time, healing would happen. Mary of Guise wasn't told by Mary right away, so how could Mary's mother have known? Mary's accusation that she was just a pawn in her mother's lust for power was grossly unfair mainly since that is what royals knew themselves to be. They had a JOB and had to do it well for the sake of millions. Mary drove me nuts this season mainly since Mary would not LET UP on the people who WANTED to help her out. Catherine, Mary of Guise, even FRANCIS kept telling her the realities of their way of life. So really, this had nothing to do with any kind of bullshit 'feelings' that Mary had. Mary of Guise was NEVER negligent of Mary, she just had to take broader things into consideration.
Did y’all see the little reaction she had when Marie touched her shoulder?
It speaks volumes, she was usually ok with a woman's touch she didn't shy away but she doesn't feel safe with her mother at all. That's such a sad existence not to feel safe with the one person you should feel the safest with.
@@KrazyKendra290 why did she feel afraid? I haven’t watched the show in a few years
@@avascott3104 she was raped being touched by anyone was very hard for a time especially with men. It was just extremely sad to see this reaction with her mother it's obvious she doesn't feel sage or comfortable with her. :( poor Mary
@@KrazyKendra290 that wasn’t true in her real life, Mary adored her mom and she confided in her for everything, and her mother visited her one time in France and didn’t returned because she had be in Scotland