Hands on a real Longsword - A late 16. century artifact
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- Once again I'm looking at an original. This time it is a longsword from the late 16th century. Something very special for me because this blade comes exactly from the time of Joachim Meyer, a fencing master of the 16th century and my main source in the reconstruction of old European martial arts.
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If Ian McCollum is Gun Jesus, then you are Landsknecht Jesus.
@@polymathart Haha... 😄
Nice!
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An absolute treat that is!
Absolutely !
00:29 It's good that you are living your life don't apologize for that, your audience awaits you patiently for good content.
That's really very well said. In fact, there have been other priorities in recent months. But you can be sure of one thing... time has been taken up with things you will be hearing about in the near future...
Ok now I'm curious, I will be waiting.
Eriador needs its protectors.
I love the fact that your videos always provide a broader historical context both military and social/cultural in which weapons were used and were evolving. It is something that many other HEMA-related videos out there lack yet is so important to get a full picture.
When it comes to the decline of traditional chivalry, I'd say that France and especially Poland will stand out as important exceptions from this rule.
Finally you are back
@@_NothingImportant Fingers crossed
This video, my good Sir, is an amazing piece of knoweldge and documentation.
Thank you so much.
@@EbefrenRevo thanks mate for the kind words :)
Oh man, that sound when cutting the air is too cool!
Theres nothing like old steel its truly a work of art
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What a wonderful opportunity to see such a longsword in the hands of one worthy to wield it. Great video. Thank you.
Ah, you're back, i missed these vids.
thx man
It's a beautiful sword, Thanks for everything !
Beautiful sword. Thank you for sharing.
@@richstone2627 Thx mate
Lovely, thank you!
This is so informative and well done :D
We are grateful you are able to access and review such rare, old pieces. Fascinating stuff seeing such a weapon that probably DID see some real use in the day, and how it was probably used.
yeah it has a kind of a spirit somehow :)
Beautiful sword
Curious to see it! :)
thx...finally a new vid xD
Love the analysis! Such a pleasure to see a nice historical piece in the hands of someone who knows the art
Thank you, I hope to see more videos like this
A very nice example. Thank you for sharing.
Glad to see Boromir enjoying his retirement
@@slabblejacks4202 happy end :)
Very well made analysis. What a great opportunity for you to have an authentic longsword to analyse and work with. Seems like someone has alot of trust in you to give it to you for testing am research.
Thanks for sharing this experience with us.
That is in superb condition
Wow, so neat! It looks a lot like Pavel Moc’s Howe de Luxe…his is a little longer, as you hypothesized this one might have been. The Howe is also quite wobbly at high speed, if you’re not careful with edge alignment.
Thanks for the video!
this sword is functionally similar to the Swiss sabre large cut oriented swords are the perfect sidearm for citizen militias
Beautiful
Nice to finally see you post, the sword is beautifull.
Very cool, my man. Love your vids, glad you're still here!
What an amazing opportunity, and to be allowed to actually handle the sword, as it should be. It's poetic.
the state of conservation is outstanding ! good video thx !
It is beautiful.
The dog seems to like the sword as well!
Oh yes... i´ve somewhere a blooper when a dog jumps through...
Thank you, and good to see you back 👍
@@CJ-uf6xl Hey there...i hope i can do more in 24
Informative and entertaining! Looking forward to the promised summer videos.
I think, if i remember right, the first mark basically says where it was made (Venice), the second mark seems to be a mark of quality (that it passed certain tests) and the third says who bought the sword (venice).
Fröhliche Weihnachten!
The two side-rings being of different sizes is intriguing. You would think that you would make an S-shaped quillons guard with symmetric rings so you could rotate the sword along the longitudinal axis and access both edges as the true edge. The only reason to make one smaller is to make it easier to carry. So consideration was given to carrying the sword on a somewhat daily basis (since if it was once in a while, this wouldn't be so much of an issue).
A very very beautiful blade and seemingly well balanced. I agree with you that it was probably longer prior to now, and is reminiscent of a Landsnecht sword. You are so lucky to have been able to enjoy it! Thank You so much for the opportunity to see this weapon. Skal
Maybe i can try out also the 1:1 replics of that sword. Was made by the owner right after he got the original. A sharp and a blunt sparring version.
What a beautiful sword! Longswords in this period are fascinating to me, because they're past the "golden age of the longsword", but still relevant both on the battlefield and in the fechtschule. Are they status symbols because they're still associated with knightly traditions?
At that time, the sword was still considered the supreme discipline... I have my own theory as to why... I think you can make a video about it :)
Wow! What an excellent sword! It’s like an artifact. It would be even better if it was polished and shiny.
A nice piece.
There is a thread on vikingsword forums that suggests the blade marking is 16th c Venetian / Brescian. Look for a thread titled "Help on mark on Italian sword ca. 1580" in the European section. I've also seen it on at least one schiavona in recent times so that fits.
@@jellekastelein7316 Thx will have a look. At least the 1580 date fits perfect...
What a beauty!
Cool to sea you back and its a very nice sword you got there. I am amazed that you can still swing this old weapons whitout breaking it. These are very well made. But its allways so hard to focus on the weapons when you are in the frame no homo XD.
This is really brilliant, hope to be able to handle an actual piece sometime in the future!
@@flamezombie1 fingers crossed :)
To clean the blade itself ? Try some white vinegar with a steel bristled toothbrush. Gentle strokes only. Work small areas of the blade at a time. Wipe off with an old, soft rag. Would be interested to know results...
Yuppie, new video
Cool Sword.
that's a nice sword my friend
@@PeterSolerom its magnificient :)
new video = like immediately!
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I read your paper, I wonder if it would be feasible to make a video to test out the technique you talked about in it where you pin a pike down and then strike it down with a battle-sword. I'm curious about how easily one could actually break a pike that way!
@@HereTheArtBegins I would be happy to do that...mh, lets see :)
You mention copper decorations: they look a lot like brass or bronze, judging by the colour onscreen.
Argh, you are right...its "Messing" and i said copper (brass). That was lost in translation... good catch :D
Very cool! Do we think this is a type XIX blade?
Oakshott unfortunately no longer covers these types in this renaissance period :/
Beautiful Sword!
Do you know any blacksmith that can forge this kind of blade? I mean that thick and wide. Most of sword i've seen and pourchased looks thinner than historical Swords from museums. Even when blacksmiths were assures that their swords are great for HEMA or cutting.
I've seen and handled a sword with the same crossguard a long time ago. Is it a somewhat common design or is it unique to that sword (implying the one I am famialr with is a replica of that one.)
@@pierssegal5910 Its also seen on many other sword. I would not say its common, but not unusual in that time :)
why did the regrind it to such a blunt point? It seems like its potential for thrusting has been completely removed with such shallow angles from the point. or is the tip that shape because of corrosion?
@@simonphoenix3789 To be honest, I don't even think the point was ever very sharp. Stabbing was not necessarily the most practical way to attack in battle, at least with a sword. What's more, many blades at that time had this almond shape, which is not atypical.
Might these be guild mars not forge marks?
Would you say that this piece fits you? Or I may ask if it would suit you when it was new. A little bit longer, more sturdy and slightly heavier.
For me its fine...as a Longsword. But i guess in the time back then it was one of the bigger ones :)
Thank you. I appreciate your videos about less-known arms the most.
Assuming the sword is borrowed, where is it from?
@@HrothgarTheSaxon From a private collection.
Can you give any info on the provenance of this piece? Where was it sold? From which collection?
I will ask :)
Thank you.
Less excuses and more videos! 😁 Also Awesome sword!⚔
@@gobbygoberton7113 haha...ok! xD
Thank You for this interesting Video!
You said, the blade could have been a little bit longer? At 5.06 you were showing the point of the blade and the fuller is running out of the point. So I agree. What loss do you expect? Between 5 and 10 cm? This would also change the Point of Balance for 2-3 cm forward and give the sword a little bit more power in a cutting movement without a loss of control.
What do you think?
@@-ManusAdFerrum- Mh...i will drive today again tonthe owner. He has also 2 really nice replics of the sword...sharp and a sparring version...time to test them ;)
Good luck! Do you know, who is the maker of the replicas?
@@-ManusAdFerrum- Yes, Stefan Roth from the "Seelenschmiede".
Congratulation to the owner!
I'm proud to have three other swords made by him.
I notice one of the rings is larger than the other
Why limit the use of the sword to a single edge?
You can and should use both edges :)
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Welcome back poleax jesus
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Stimmt...hier ist es ebenfalls nur am regnen :/
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Thank you
Hallo, das ist ein interessantes Stück. Die Klinge stammt allem Anschein der Marken nach aus Belluno im nördlichen Veneto.
Siehe die hoffentlich bald im Druck erhältliche Dissertation von Dr. Florian Messner, Universität Innsbruck. Viele Grüße, Stefan
@@AncientPolarSkies Hast Du dafür irgendeinen Beleg? Das wäre ja mega :)
Hallo, die Marke kommt häufig an italienischen Schwertern vor und ist in dem Buch "Armi Bianche Italiane" ebenso aufgeführt, wie in den Markenlisten von Gyngell, etc. Sie wurde auch schon früher als "nodo bellunesco" bezeichnet und kommt je nach Schmied(efamilie) in Abwandlungen vor. In Sachen dieses Schwertes wäre es sicher günstig mit Florian Messner an der Uni Innsbruck Kontakt aufzunehmen. Er gehört zu den im besten Sinne des Wortes "normal" gebliebenen Kollegen und freut sich sicher. Viele Grüße, Stefan
I want it do bad.. Can i order a replica?
not from stock..but a good smithy could do the job :)
1.1 kilos? That's nice and light.
@@Jack-cc3qm 1.6kg :)
1.6 kilos is still very nimble.
@@Jack-cc3qm It is still very comfortable :) yes
The markings are likely german. I've seen one of those on a pole arm from about the same period.
@@Jack-cc3qm oh really...do you have a picture or a link to more info?
(Probably countered years ago, but...) Is this not a Two-handed sword, rather than a longsword?
A Longsword is gripped two-handed. What do you mean with Two-Handed Sword? :)
A Longsword, like a Bastard sword, can be weiled normally with one hand. I two-handed sword is really a large battle sword, which is not at all convientant with one hand -- e.g. large Swiss and Spanish variaties.
But let us not starting splitting terminology in our defences. I am sure MOST swords can be described as this or that, if wanted.
wie hart federt die Klinge denn?
Ich habe jetzt keine Messungen vorgenommen bzw die Klinge all zu sehr belasten wollen. Schwabbelt aber schon ein wenig wenn man sich "verhaut". Man muss aber sagen das der originalzustand sicher steifer war denn die Klinge wurde oft nachgeschliffen, scharten ausgebessert etc. Es gibt aber eine exakte Replik mit etwas mehr "Fleisch"...ich frage mal ob die ich ebenfalls unter die Lupe nehmen kann.
Hmmmmmmmm Landsknecht is it, Grutte Pier Gerlofs Donia would like to have many words with you.
Snow in July???
@@Le_Rappel_des_oiseaux As i said...the footage was taken long ago and i had no time to edit it^^
Thank you for explanation! I missed it in the video itself :P
Snow in July... you're in Australia? 😂
It was December or January, cant remember it. Was busy the last month^^
Busy? You must be doing somethint cool. I hope we find out.
definitely...
bad steel limits martial arts.
The collapse of the knight was caused by the Swiss, they started it not the Landsknecht.
@@mccarthy86 Well, the Swiss Reisläufer were certainly the model for the renaissance time Landsknecht. But the decline of chivalry is far more complex than blaming it on some pikemen. The decisive factor is therefore not only to be found on the battlefield, but rather in the increasing capitalization of modern times, which dissolved the feudal structures of the knight. I said that as well in the video :)
@@mccarthy86 But regarding Battletactics...yes, it startet really early...for example at the Morgarten Battle. The problems of large cavalry units were painfully noticeable there. But it took some time before the final demise of chivalry.
Do you know why the sword is thinner due to corrosion? Because of the same shit you do in this video. People get their hands on antique artifacts and immediately start playing with them and touching them.
No, you're not properly informed. Corrosion does not occur if you touch the blades with your hands and wipe them with an oil cloth immediately afterwards. Even water is not a problem if you wipe the blade dry afterwards. If you want to save yourself the trouble of wiping the blade after inspection, put on gloves. In particular, gloves are necessary when it is not even possible to clean the steel because the surface is either already treated or so rough that a mechanical process such as wiping with a cloth would cause damage. However, this is not a problem here.
What you see here on the blade is improper (but hardly avoidable) storage over the centuries and, above all, repairs to the nicks and damage after use. In short, the blade suffered mainly through the use of its original users.
"No, you're not properly informed."
Ok, there, buddy. You're 100% wrong though.
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