How to fight in full 14th centruy harness
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- čas přidán 10. 10. 2018
- This video is made as an attempt to answer some of the many questions about the use of harness (armour) received after the publication of our video "dressing in 14th century armor". This is therefore not a video showing harnischfechten techniques, but a video showing the weakness of a 14th century harness.
To make comments, the visor of my helmet is open through most of the video. This will of course make my face an interesting target for my adversary. With my visor open, Pål will obviously try to stab me in my face!
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“This is my friend Paul” “hello” I don’t know why I found that so funny
These guys are so awkward because they state things in such a dry, scripted and kind of endearing way.
*Oblivion npc teaches us how to fight knights (1500 Colorized)*
Lol same
@@jonreno4389 thats because its hard for them to speak english (theyre norwegian)
@@user-wo3sy7hp8w You can tell they're just nice people.
“Now Paul has me on the ground he can kill me”
Proceeds to kill him
Did he dieded bro ☹️
"Or ransom me"
DODGE THIS YOU BAST*RDDDD!!
@@haninditabudhi6574 Yes he death
@@happyface96 😂😂😂
Now all I need is a “How to get into a 14 century battle” tutorial
don't forgrt: how to aquire a squire!
You do NOT want to put that harness on alone. xD
Try looking for "battle of the nations"
Just put your armor on and march down the street, others will immediately charge from their neighbouring houses. Good luck to you.
See you skipped the "How to avoid dying from cholera as a child in the 14th century" so you're not actually going to need the next tutorial
99% chance you would end up in a cloth shirt with a spear and get cut down by an invincible rich guy to talk about with his friends at the castle later.
Imagine walking past and just seeing a medieval duel you would be so confused
"Oh, it's Ola and Paul again. Hey Ola! Don't forget we have a neighborhood meeting tomorrow!", "Hallo Nachbarn! Ja, ja, alles klar! "
@@sockaccount8116 he would answer in Germany? thought he is Norwegian kek
Imagine a medieval duel seeing you passing with 21 century clothes and eating hotdog. They would be confused as well
I'd be so happy I time travel to 14th century. I'd pledge my allegiance to a Lord.
@@DilbeardAlbeard "A witch!! A witchh!!!"
standing opposite of one another...ready to engage in deadly melee..."This is my friend paul!"..."Hello!"...only scandinavians can reach that level of adorableness.
Thats us! Adorable people swinging 2h axes😄
Paul's "Hello" > Joe Biden's "Hello"
Nah not just them
@@mareksicinski3726 yeah, slavs can do it even better, with "this is Sanya/Bartek/%genericdiminutiveslavname"
Yeah. Adorable is the word I'm looking for to describe this.😄
Imagine you're getting lost and see these two guys in knight armour.
That would mean that im in the right place even if im lost.
Welcome to Wales, laddy...
I would have tought i time traveled
Lol
fuck im in 1300 again.....
What society wants men to wear: *suits
What men want to wear:
Reject standards and wear knight armor just like how you should reject your home owners associations and grow corn in your front yard
Actual business suit of the High Middle Ages.
REJECT SUITS
RETURN TO TOGA ROBES
@@cullenpinney2997 I fully support this, on the grounds of sticking it to HOAs the world over and being awesome
Actually maybe A suit for 1920 mafia 🥂
I feel like he's selling me a medieval version of a power-tool in a TV ad.
He's selling you a pollaxe and pollaxe related accessories
Mutton and horse flesh on the go. Have it ure bigang
"This is my friend Paul."
"he-lloh"
Perfect introduction.
Awesome video, greetings from Prague :)
I searched for this after playing KCD! Loving your new dlc!
Keep up the good work! Looking forward to more DLCs and the continnuation of the main storyline! Henry is the best main character I have ever seen in a video game!
Was searching for that video because of your game, well made :)
Hey Warhorse Studios ! I have a good idea for a game that YOU and only YOU could make !
With the same realisme as KCD, you could make a strategy game !
Thanks for the game lads
Me at 2 in the morning: "This will come in handy if I'm ever in a swordfight."
Just in case
only if your opponent wears full mail or (half) plate armor. guess it would also work against modern body armor.
@@XpVersusVista modern armor like the soft level iiia vests police wear is really good at blocking slashes and stabs, but everything other than the torso is very vulnerable
@@YellowJack1020 i meant more military grade combat vests, but anyways, still works like in the video: stab the unprotected parts.
@@XpVersusVista What do you mean by half plate armour? This works against full plate armour too.
Imagine being wounded in the armpit...
If you stab right you can penetrate lungs or heart very easily.
There is a large artery there, if it is severed, the wounded bleed to death...
Nice
Uhhhhgg
Reading thru these comments here is so satisfying and scary at the same time
"You can either kill me or ransom me"
somthing you always see in Mount and Blade warband...
Its just too profitable to ransom people
@@dawson3776 dont ransom the nobleman. Instead release them to get honour. At the long run honour benefits much more then few thousand dinars.
@@jesusshrek1271 Honor doesn't pay bills boi.
@@dawson3776 you r right but once you have a castle or a city or i dunno fiefs in towns that make money you really dont need that ransom money. You struggle to convince lords or have good relationships. Thats why you need honour late game. but if you have financial problems there are many solutions to that and ransoming is yep one of them
The interesting point here is that ransoming was actually pretty common since soldiers wearing large amounts of armor tend to be nobles and rich folk since armor had to be provided by the user. The guy wearing good armor is a pretty good way to make money if you can take them down and the family pays the ransom-if you survive considering the fact that it was ironically the nobles who were trained the most in combat and were often times squired by knights-contrary to anime making them seem pretty dumb with their guards despite being common folk who couldn't afford training.
"This is my friend Paul"
"Hello"
"Paul is gonna show us how deadly a sword can be without the harness, ready Paul?"
"Hello"
I love the way he keeps on explayning stuff in the most professional way while he is on the ground wheezing with an axe on his back.
"So, how did you manage to kill your opponent?"
"Oh, I just stabbed him in his weak spot. The groin."
"... dude, you don't just stab a guy in the dick"
This reminded me of a King of the Hill episode where Hank was teaching Bobby to fight..."Bobby! You just can't go around kicking guys in the fellas!" 😆
Or the South Park episode where Butters is trying to shoot guys for Cartman but ends up always hitting them in the dick.
@@curtishammer748 DUDE, NOT COOL
2:19 "The total weight of the horse and the rider is up to 700 kilos."
Horse: *Shakes head in fervid disagreement*
so true heroes of medieval war is horses
"Why did you have have to tell them my weight, mate?"
their armor has no equal.
LOL
@The Great Memery warhorses in the 14th century were around 550 to 650 kilograms, not a ton lol.
They didn't use horses like the shire horse for war. Shire horses and other work horses are too big. The actual muscle power and speed isn't proportional to the body dimensions.
A shire horse in full barding with a fully armored knight on top would not even last half as long as actual war horses. the bigger the horse the more armor weight you have for same protection.
draft horses are also too tall, since you still need to reach your enemy with your weapon. the larger the horse the sooner footmen can attack it and the later you can reach said footmen. it all needs a specific balance of good height advantage and impact force (weight) while still staying fast and enduring enough.
around 600kg was the ideal mark of power, speed, weight (impact) and height.
*_That's why Lawbringer is OP_*
A God is among us
AD MORTEM
NO SUPERSTES!
V e r s a t i l e
The most versatile weapon ever invented, T H E *P O L E A X E*
I cannot explain why but this video pushed me out of a depressive episode i was having. Thank you both
Didn't know medieval cameras are this good
Kkkkkkkkk....that was a very good joke
Greetings from Brasil
Swords are meant for cutting flesh & bone as well as softer armor such as cloth & leather, but heavy armor is quite resistant. Useful stuff for any D&D DM who wants realism in their fantasy.
Even Gambesons are very resistant to even sharp swords. You need a very sharp sword to cut through a gambeson, and if they have mail or plate on them, cutting is useless.
What are you cutting, a handkerchief?
@@plaidpvcpipe3792 I heard that gambeson type armor is the reason falchions were popular
Actually, I think 1,5-2 mm steel and 5-6 mm wax hardened quality leather have more or less comparable characteristics, both in weight and protection. Especially with scale armor
@@Orimthekeyacolite my dubious claim-o-meter is going off. Do feel free to provide evidence
For those who didn't get, the visor of his helmet is open through just for the commentary, otherwise the adversary would try to stab his face.
(this is a joke, because he made that clear two times throught the video.)
Ola Onsrud, thank you so much for the entertainment, I love the medieval theme!
Well some knights prefered to fight with open visor
@@giftzwerg7345 yea, but only the chad ones tho
@@mauricios.5943 Or if you really really really love breathing
@@giftzwerg7345 having an open visor means you can talk more clearly and invite them out for a drink, otherwise they will just kill you instead :/
Incorrect. The visor would commonly be down when on horse, either jousting, or when taking arrow fire. However, the visor impedes vision and breathing. Fighting in armor is a highly strenuous activity that puts a lot of strain on the cardio-vascular system. Knights would commonly raise their visor, in dismounted melee combat. As the knight with visor down will quickly become disoriented and have massive blind spots - enabling their opponent to target the weak points outlined in this video. A notable weak point (not covered here) is the slits in the visor, which merely require an opponent to align their blade to pass - or stab with a "Stiletto".
The ability to see what your opponent is doing, and having the calisthenic endurance to continue fighting are commonly more important than what face protection the visor offers.
"A blade does not cut through metal or mail"
Video games be like - you wut mate
I understand video games not having complex enough controls to replicate anti armor techniques. You _are_ just using a controller/mouse and keyboard and not your whole body (and you want to be able to dress your character in badass full plate). But they could at least have blunt weapons do more damage against plate and mail armor, and blade weapons do more damage against cloth armor.
Movies on the other hand is a different story
@@viktorthevictor6240 there’s a couple games that have done blunt weapons ignoring plate armor and swords and bladed weapons being effective against light armor. chivalry 2 does the former and kingdom come deliverance and mount and blade warband does both.
Excellent video. Thanks.
This is the first video that actually shows where the weak points are in the armor.
Thank you!
if internet was in 14th century
Now I really know why war horses used by knights were so expensive. That's one big and mighty fine looking horse.
I thought the trick was to scream: "Parry this you filthy casual".
That is only when you have a 9mm
I love the armor, it looks great, better than what I see in a lot of movies. It's good that you addressed the different methods/weapons of attack while not getting too technical about it, you got straight to the point (pun inteneded). I can imagine a 14th centruy master-at-arms teaching beginners in a similar manner to what you guys were doing. Putting your bodyweight behind the thrust of you sword was educational for me, I've never heard that mentioned before.
Basically using the sword like a spear. Usually swords werent your first choice when fighting opponents in full plate, as the clip showed. Hammers, maces, axes (the backside with the spike, not the blade itself) and especially weapons like halberds are better choices. Swords were usually used more as sidearms or duelling weapons.
Thank you, i shall use this in Mordhau
lmao
Fantastic demonstration. Thank you for this video.
Underrated Chanel
Perfect knowledge, short and well structured! If he adds rumbling to pass the 10-minutes mark, the casuals will love it! :)
channel
I really appreciate that your stuff is very historical. A lot of reenactors can learn from you.
Thanks!
Very pretty sharp. The Albion Lichtenauer is a very good blunt. Harnesses are nice aswell.
The shield, the horse. Everythings awesome here :D
Another good vid! :)
Keep up the good work!
Thank you
Their English is actually really really good. It's more coherent than some here in the United States or even UK.
Nothing to do with coherency, I think you confuse ‘coherency’ with ‘understandability’.
@@mareksicinski3726 Ah, it's a little tough to explain for me. To be straightforward, I find it easy to listen to.
@@mareksicinski3726 these words are literally synonyms
Some natives speak what could be considered a completely different dialect.
You can see it with other languages and how they differ from region to region.
A good example would be continental Spanish vs Latin American Spanish.
@@JonatasAdoM only slang words are different, these two words however are synonyms in America to Great Britain to Australia
Reminds me of how insects find a weakness to pierce other insects with tough armor.
Glad to see two things: first - you let others do the proper techniques. This illustrates very well that there is a whole group of knowledgable people. Second, I am glad to see a number of Albion Liechtenauers. This also an indicator.
Seriously, the short scene where he rides into the sunset at the end with his heraldic horse and armor gives me the sudden urge to buy an armor and take riding lessons.
1:48 "now my friend paul can either kill or ransom me :D "
why is this guy so happy I love it
I love this video. It's very informative.
Many media depictions of armor are quite inaccurate, and thus leave many viewers illusioned with how armor works, and how it is bypassed.
I love that you mentioned not just how effective polearms are, but went in-depth on half-swording - a few of those weak points never occured to me. Stabbing for the joints and neck is fairly intuitive, but it just never occured to go for the groin - considering that many knights ride calvary, I never made the connection that their groins would sorta have to be less armored, excluding the one who stay on foot.
It'd be awesome to see a movie or show deminstrate half-swording like this in fight scenes and whatnot. To point out how swords are largely useless against heavy armored opponents unless one employs the use of murderstrokes (holding the sword by the blade and using the crossguard as a hammer) or halfswording.
What an informative and oddly comedic video.
Now we all know our life was lie,in movies swords cut through metal like nothing
These arms youtubers call it "the lightsaber"
Again as if armor is freshly sliced ham! Real Medieval Martial Arts is so much more interesting than the hack and slash of Hollywood or Big Name Movies.
@@KeyOneGodSun
Utilizing HEMA would be so cool for a movie, but they probably don't want to invest excess money into it, since it isn't necessary for selling the product. Hopefully we get a director with a good budget who's passionate about this in particular
Oh, and I've heard that stabs and thrusts are way more difficult to choreograph in a safe way than slicing is. It would be putting the stuntmen in more danger, one thing that has to be considered. My solution is to just use more blunt weapons instead of swords, or less armor.
@@viktorthevictor6240 using blunt weapons instead of swords would be probably be worse because they were meant to defeat armor but they could use blunt swords with basically no tip but if they wanted they could use a sharp sword for close ups
@@viktorthevictor6240 yes, even a blunt sword would do significant damage if a stab connected by accident.
Everybody gangsta until Geoff pulls up with the heavy mace.
If everyone said hello like Paul, there wouldn't be fights to be had.
Excellent and informative, Ola! Is this type of armor unique to Norwegian or Scandinavian knights?
This type of armor was quite common among knights and men at arms all over Western Europe.
Some had of course old fashion armour.
Movies taught me that one single slash goes through armor and insta kill opponent
Well it ain't like that 😅
This makes me think of how mesmerizing acclaimed fighters or duelists were back in these times, like an adept swordsman. Couldn't imagine seeing that on video, hope we get to such an extraordinary time where we can peer back into those earlier times in history.
It's even more crazy that way back when king David was alive, the leader of his special forces had killed more than 800 men in a single fight.
@@7heMech what ? Of course myths are crazier than history
@@hugoamat2496 the Bible is globally recognized as a historical source and no self-respecting historian would say isn't, who are you?
Interesting how movies almost never show this style of fight, they just dismember a knight with one swing. THE KING is a great movie and has more authentic fights
Great video, in the movies they get such easy kills against men in armour or chain mail but this vid shows how brutal the true nature of fighting was then.
Good and interesting video. The accuracy of your point explains why we can't sharpen our blades,nor use the point of our swords in buhurt full-contact medieval fights !
Such a wonderful video, so many enjoyable bits and just generally amusing in presentation but with good and useful direct commentary. Thank you.
Very nice. Your 3 min videos give more information than most 20-30 videos on youtube. I love your channel. Thank you.
Great video guys! I had the opportunity to learn some fencing in my time but could never understand how it could be effective against an armored opponent. Now I know were to aim the pointy end!
lol that black screen when he stabbed your eye was funny
So glad I found this channel! Thank you for all your videos!
This guy has the sickest plate armor, the monochromatic design of the cross and wolf plus the houndskull is just brilliant.
Woooooooooow, this is total visual and historical delight! What an armour, what a weapon techniques demonstration! This is beautifulnes! God, I Love Medieval times!!!
Not if you were sick, you wouldn't! Or if you needed a dentist!
@@DieFlabbergast Well, he meant the romanticised version
of the medieval times, as did we all :-)
@@DieFlabbergast I mean Medieval times as historical period, not place to live))
This is why i digged the full plate combat scenes in excalibur they actually emphasize lack of mobility in the scens and far more blunt damage with sword hilts maces etc i mean minus the actual excalibur fantasy cheese 😅
I can’t say enough good things about this video. THANK YOU!!!
I am saving this video and I am going link it every time people get full armor combat wrong.
Thank you thank you thank you
This is something about medieval fighting that has never been discussed for me. Nice video!
I have been looking forward to you making a video about this.
This new Kingdom Come Deliverence game is so realistic
Historical tactics aside... Pål is a VERY efficient way to spell a friend's name if their name is Paul... It's Paul and "pal" all in one! Brilliant.
Beautiful kit, and very informational video. Thank you sirs!
Also with a sharp end of an pole axe or a Hellebarde can get through the helmet in to the skull 💀
this is why spears and maces are so effective in this ages
More so maces than spears
@@dawson3776 a spear thrust to the helmet would rattle your brain big time, if it didn't go through the eye slits
@@nurgle333 well yes, but maces just made more of an impact
Good educational video! It‘s concise and straight to the point. A worthwhile addition to the CZcams HEMA archives.
I like to believe that they would play this as a training video for footman soldiers back in the dark ages
Is God your teacher Sir :)
God bless you and protects you always Sir :):)
i do like the style of the black/white surcoat you have with the castle type hem, is this a particular type/name? others i have seen are too long for me
thanks
Honestly these are the times I love the algorithm
I don't know how this video made it to my feed, but I'm glad it did!
Finally a solution to my time traveler!
Good video and beautifull loadout, coat of arms is simple and great!
Thank you!
It is mine.
That was really cool. I've amaturely studied combat and history my whole life and didn't know this. Thank you
He sounds so friendly and nice, i can't stop smiling!
Now I can survive London
That was a great analysis! As a military historian and soldier I appreciate how much time and inspection you put in to understanding medieval combat. 👏
All these killing techniques should've been portrayed in medieval movies and it would have been much more accurate overall. All we have seen so far is that they can slice right through metal armor, even plates and pierce directly through breast plates with swords and spears which is just not likely ever gonna happen as a good quality breast plate have been shown to deflect even crossbow bolts. Even a hard leather armor or a regular gambeson is good enough to protect a person from sword slices in real life, let alone metal armor.
It would have been much more entertaining and interesting to see how these killing methods would work against a fully armored knight.
I have a feeling that kind of choreography is more expensive than the usual hack and slash, and it might be more dangerous too (striking and slicing is a lot easier to fake and block safely than thrusts and stabs)
Imagine walking through a field and seeing these two guys like they just fell through a time warp!
Tis a good stance, sire. Thee has been practicing a lot, what a wonderous sight to behold.
love your videos
Thank you!
R1 : attack
R2 : Heavy attack
Now try to roll using knight armors and store up estus flask
Hei hei og takk. Bare bra. !!!! Sehr gut gemacht, und sehr deutlich gezeigt wo aufzupassen ist. Very well made, and shows drastically the wakeuppoints of the fights.
dude was fighting for his life in dis demonstration, excellent
"To ride a horse I can't have any protection in my groin. So that's a very effective place to kill me." Sounds like something a character would say in the show Norsemen.
Very good vídeo , greetings from Perú :)
Thank you!
Perfect! Just stunning realistic fighting!!!!!! Someone hire this man for some choreography in a MOVIE!!!
Great video, thank you!
Heres my question. How where the armors maintained. I would imagine a few weeks in the field you were a walking pile of rust. Were they coated with lard or just polished on a regular basis?
I am sorry, but i do not know much about this. In the Sources however, we can read about the servants using time on polishing armuor.
I appreciate it. Ive read things along the same lines. Always wondered though. Even modern armor needs constant maintenance. Wondered how they accomplished that back then.
Well, I have heard coating plate with wax was how you could do it. Oil however was available at the time, so you could have your squire oil/wax it for you.
My axe goes through anything. Also ale.
The ribs near my armpit recoiled when Paul was demonstrating that thrust with the sword. I can barely stand being tickled there. What a horrible place to get run through with a sword.
Thank you very much for your good lessons!!
How rich people from Europe enjoy their money
More like how they earned money
I used to imagine knights cutting through armor and killing the person wearing it
*Movies lied to me*
Good that you have learned! And its funny cuz if they could cut through it, why even wear it? xD
Hollywood thinks their customers are smooth-brained.
I love that authentic armor. Beatiful to look at. Riveted small rings. Awesome
Excellent and instructive video, thanks!
Bless and protect these two Highlanders.
They arent highlanders but oke
Medieval warfare was horrific.
@The Wandering Knight Tribal warfare was the most horrific
Knights were (supposed to be) honourable in combat
@@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation Such honour was often disregarded.
@@richardlionerheart1945 Knights, and other nolbility weren't exactly in danger of being deliberately killed, when capturing and ransoming them would yield a much greater profit.
@The Wandering Knight WW2 scale wise, WW1 horror wise
I like how friendly both of you seem as you’re killing each other, great video!
Excellent and informative video. Thanks!