DOWNFALL of Kolkata Explained in 10 Minutes! | Sanjeev Sanyal on The Neon Show
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A dive into the “poverty of aspiration” that has limited India & especially Kolkata which led to its downfall since the early 20th century!
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Please make a full episode with Sanjeev Sanyal and Kolkata- I mean a 45-minute show..we want to hear more on this topic
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West Bengal is the richest state among all Eastern India states..( economic power house)
And
Kolkata is the business and finance capital of entire east india.
Every company's east indias head office is located in Kolkata due to geographycal advantage
West Bengal is the gateway of northeast with 3 international border
So
Kolkata is the transit point of all business between northeast and rest of India
Export import business of UP Bihar Jharkhand Nepal Bhutan Bangladesh Pakistan Afghanistan depends on Kolkata/ Haldia port and Siliguri dry port
Do not worry
BJP will lose again in Bengal in common election
Bengal hate BJP
Communism is a cancer... I regret of being a hardcore left supporter in my early life... I still regret those decision... Thankfully left is no more in Bengal.
That's so me too , started as a hard core communist from the age 14 years but my perception totally changed when I was 24
Don't worry your perception will be changed again once you regret that what communist did that was inevitable..Aah we know how good r non communist governments in Bengal nd other states ..... Left front set the pillars of achievement for Bengal ... What don't you do another land reform in others states ? Actually don't have guts because all these shits funded by their capitalist lords...go back to the past what was there in Bengal before Left Front government.... Then make this kind of propaganda video...
Idiot u can be a capitalist and still be on the left on social issues
I am a probashi, my baba and ma decided to leave kolkata in 1983...I am thankful to them for not letting us grow in a Cancer ridden city. Kolkata though has been ridden of communism, only to be replaced by an ever corrupt party. .Bengal needs investments, more factories and businesses, poverty in Bengal is rising rapidly. Very sorry state of affairs.
The problem arises from the first school i.e.; home. We talk about the revolution happening elsewhere which is geographically different, culturally different and different in thought, speech and action. We try to emulate the hero's there, who rose in different situation. We don't emulate our heros like Lakshmi-Narayana, Radha-Krishna, Sita-Rama, who won over their vices and became Emporers of the world, & worshipped every nook & corner of the world.
Very aptly said, Kolkata and Bengal was murdered and now TMC is raping the deadbody.
Oh man 😂😂
Perfectly said
Perfect analysis dada 🙏
Already done by CPIM, TMC is just an extension of that, CPM and jyoti basu is the main culprit
And BJP 's new avatar Mr. Sanyal has lost all proportions and his anti communism now flows into TMC hate pool
Just shut up your Prime Minister is anti Bengali and a vote chaser only if you vote BJP to power will modi do something for bengal
Remember: Computer hatao Andolon & English hatao policy up to class V or so. Interestingly sons, daughters,grandsons,grand daughters of so many stalwarts and intellectuals were studying in English medium schools.
And now majority of them have settled outof Calcutta in top tier cities
@@Soura4 and many settled abroad , mostly in capitalist havens, after railing against capitalism all their lives. By the way I know may of these people who romanticize about marxism in India while sipping expensive wine from expensive glasses and working for capitalist conglomerates. So there was, not just decimation of west bengal's economy, but also of its intellect - and that's a fact, whether we like to step down from our hallowed high horse of hypocrisy and admit it or not.
He was actually a snob.& perfect dictator
@@Soura4 son and grand sons of those communist now live in capitalist west.
They have killed the competition for many generations
Brilliantly said. Bengalis are also responsible for their fate. They kept choosing the left front government for 34 years even witnessing their worst performance year after year and then they elected one dacoit in white saree and put her in power for next 3 terms and continuing. You and your generation will not suffer then who else will. Bengal's next aspiration is to become a state like Bihar.
Bengalis don't run bengal. Mafia run. Affluent Bengalis have eloped.
It's the wrong approach of saying that. System is broken and forced the poor too vote for them.
Bengali leadersof left leaning for last 50 to60 years love to shed blood of their political rivals,murder,extortion,rape and threat of rape,intimidation of ordinary people,bandhs,hartals and aggressive trade unions are now themain politicalreality of kolkata. One cant do business in such hostile environment. First the communists for more than thirty years and now bigger goons of the TMCfor the last 15 years means kolkata is dead and buried
The first to cross the hurdle system is used very strategically in Bengal, you just need to come here before the election and see how many ppl are not allowed to vote. Voter turn out and proxy voting will tell what happens in Bengal. You can see from the variation of vote share in the general election as compared to state election.
Bengalis have already left the state. It's the poor minorities with whom TMC is booking their win. We Bengalis are everywhere in India but not West Bengal. Go to any restaurant in Chennai you will only find hard working Bengalis ( Hindus and Muslims both)
can't believe Kolkata was once industrial hub of India and now it's gone so far down the pecking order
If you can't believe it's your problem, that doesn't mean it was not. Once America was dominating in all spheres and now it's is behind China and other nations in many categories. Calcutta has given first nobel laureate of Asia and Scientists like Jagadish Bose who was at par with Albert Einstein. Ups and down in history is common.
Sorry Dada. You miss the name of famous Bengali Scientist Satyandranath Bose who worked with Albert Einstein and established Bose-Einstein Theory in Physics.
@@dipayandey5372 sorry I was wrong in a hurry while travelling
@@dipayandey5372 how is it relevant with today economy. Bengal sends 70 lakh cheap lsbours today and takes jobs of tamils and marathas
@@dipayandey5372 sheikh shahjahan is also bengali
I was shocked to hear some NRI Bengali young lady putting the blame for current Bengali mess down to Marwaris!
Not to communists not to Mamta but to the one community that actually created economic opportunities for the local population
Whats her name??Most of them are commies and theybare racist towards bengalis of other districts apart from kolkata
Honestly I feel like this was the root cause of putting the communists in power in the first place. The Bengalis couldn’t stand the success of the Marwari community. It no secret that most of the industrialists that were hounded by the communists were Marwaris.
or suckered on them ? Marwaris has really suckered big over there. Locals are merely slaves
Bengalli are pain in ass.
Bengali blame others except themselves. I lived in Kolkata, now in Mumbai, there's a stark difference. Especially the nature of Marathis and Bengalis.
I passed CA in the Eighties. There would be no light for days. I had to struggle in the dark. There was no suitable jobs in kolkata after I passed. All industries by that time had migrated. Poverty was glorified. Industrialists were seen as class enemy. Work culture was completely destroyed. People were tought to revere far away Cuba much more than their homeland. Politics was institutionalised in all sectors. The first victims were schools and colleges. Students were forced to take part in rallies was given a name Chatra andolon. Bengal is still not out of this shock.
Poverty is glorified and Satyajit roy took OSCAR.. what a shameless
Thank you for sharing, Chatterjee. Exciting developments lie ahead, and Bengal will rise again. :)
Let's dream such. Dream doesn't come reality if this dream transforms into reality I will be the happiest man at the fag end of my life. Of course possibility is not zero but almost zero. Changing of government will not be tough but changing of Bengali psyche is IMPOSSIBLE.
Sums up so well
@@bibhudattaardu9711showing true human life is honesty nd necessary, hiding those is a matter of shame.
I too lived in Kolkata for about 16 months between 2006 to 2008. In 2006 December we had 6 bandhs. We were working in South City Mall construction. We had to stop in every bandh as we had glazing outside. Even one stone thrown would have damaged the whole elevation. When informed of bandh, my uncle from Bengaluru remarked " khula kab rahega yaar?". Communists, Didi have totally destroyed Bengal. Bengalis are themselves to be blamed. You elected them.
Few decades ago the whole country would come to Bengal in search of work and economic prosperity. How the tables have turned, few years ago I was traveling in Rajasthan and the receptionist at the hotel I stayed in was from West Bengal. World has come a full circle.
Who used to call these Bandhs? How many of them were called? History should be consulted. Living in a fools paradise serves no purpose..
@@tickle296 Every political party called these bandhs. Even if it rained a little I used to get calls from my sub contractors- Saab, ikhane prachur brishti hochche, ami aashte paarbo na. This was the mentality there. So it is not only the political parties, but people's attitude too matters.
@@maheshgh1969 Nobody works in open when it rains, unless some provisions of raincoats are available. Catching fever by working in rain is an unpleasant experience.
@@tickle296 Dada, work was inside the building not outside
As a Bengali , I totally agree with what he is saying. This nostalgia of bengalis with a sad looking city is evidence of the complete lack of aspiration.
Inertia now. Most have left as battling with non sensical ideology waste of time. Diversity and unity absolutely misinterpreted. Megalomania more suited now. Blind,selfish and vested interest the norm.😢😢😢😢
Can't have a better analysis. Thanks ❤❤ Still suffer from nostalgia which by itself is sometimes depressing,but seeing the mindset now is so so pathetic . The inertia around seems so desperate
A humongous task taken by PM, but with his team hope isi still there. Bless you. These stalwarts mentioned can never be forgotten, Sad part is aspirations only in addas and that's it. Certain Films being made now only have verbal diarrhea of the greats but no substance . They are lost in themselves.😢The others are happy with dualogues and music from Bwood. Irony!!!
I'm from Kolkata and we came here over 100yrs ago. I keep listening to stories of Kolkata decline, I really wish I can see the rise of Kolkata once again. But I'm certain of one thing that if, Bharat that is India, is to reclaim it's glory Bengal and Kolkata has to contribute to it. India cannot achieve 9-10% growth without it's third largest city contributing to it. Just imagine that even after half a century Kolkata is still Bharat's 3rd largest city, what could it be if we get a pro industry governement here. Love Kolkata love Bharat Jai Hind❤️
Kolkata will rise, fueled by the optimism and dedication of individuals like you, Aditya. :)
Pro industry party or bjp will never come to power. Muslims make about 35% of bengal. How can tmc lose
@@TheNeonShowwhow can ?those who trying to create something..they are being haunted,looted by tmc ..
Nd outsiders problem..we strongly need a good govt
There is no greater city in the world like kolkata, but it is crumbling down...to be the best, it needs to grow economically. It's now or never now.
Good one. Feels good to hear that, you project yourself as a part of West Bengal, especially when it is severely low. This a starc reality, of Indians, when one calls it a dying city, while the other calls for dedicated service, including himself. With your words, Kolkata has taken a rise again.❤️
Agree. I'm a Bangalorean married to a wonderful Bengali man but when I visit my in-Laws, I feel like I'm in a different country. The heat, the constant assault on the nose, the filth, the falling sick, lack of good doctors/ hospitals, the terrible drivers who don't follow the rules, low wages for the domestic help and the corruption. So when i hear a Communist Bhadralok lecturing me on how Bengal is great, I really, really have to try and stifle my eyeroll. Bengal was super special and gave birth to Vivekananda, Bankim chandra Chattopadhyay, Khudiram Bose, Netaji, Tagore, Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar and Chaitanya Mahaprabhu but this Bengal???!! This needs to change
Bengal has indeed given birth to many prominent leaders in India, a true blessing. :)
Please do not generalise. Bangalore is not the cleanest city or the most traffic friendly city in India. Yours leaders and politicians can be bought too.
Yes Kolkata is not at its best now but neither America or the NHS in the UK providing the best health services.
You should see how the syasthwasathi scheme has brought modern health care to be availed by the poorest of the poor. Yes there are corruptions but you will agree that given the opportunity it's in everyone's blood in this subcontinent.
The cost of living and travel is far with in the reach of the common people here.
Yes we are unfortunate that here we could not set up any heavy industries to provide jobs for obvious reasons but there has to be dawn after a dark cold night. That's how the universe functions.
@@parthasen9008i think you are that "Communist bhadralok" she's talking about 😂
@@parthasen9008Because of only long lecture from people like you, this condition is permanent. Walk the talk. Empty vessels make highest noise
So, your problem was "the heat"? Really? Did you have the heat problem in Chennai or Delhi or Hyderabad too? Why are you in India? Move to Iceland! It is amusing to find a Bangalorean bickering about "terrible drivers who don't follow the rules". Are you really from Bangalore? Don't you find your unruly auto-drivers in Bangalore problematic? Two-wheelers took over every footpath in every street in Bangalore, leaving no space for pedestrians to walk safely. Your city used to be the "City of Lakes". And now you don't even have water to wipe your a** after taking a dump! BBMP is the most corrupt municipal corporation in India. I stayed in Bangalore for 5 years, and then left for good. It is an unlivable city. A city where luxury bungalows worth crores of rupees get waterlogged in the rainy season! First get your city cleaned up. That'll be a good usage of your precious time.
I think the main problem with the bengalees of Kolkata is that they overestimate themselves and think that except themselves no one is so much intelligent.But the fact is just opposite.
The same in the case of Kerala people like me 😄
Bengali "Bhadraloks" of Kolkata are a minority, whose vote share is too minute to decide which political party will rule Bengal. It's the people from the hinterland and rural parts of Bengal outside Kolkata who vote for a political party to win the state. They are dirt-poor, with no ambition, happy with doles & freebies and have a poverty of aspiration, just what Mr. Sanyal said. If Bengal needs to revive, the mentality of an average Bengali needs to change.
alokekumar ghosh: i just finished reading a comment which says this: [a few sentences deleted] Bengal still is the top education provider in India, with IIT-KGP, IIM-C, ISI, and many other notable institutions placed at the top of NIRF rankings published by Indian Govt on annual basis ... do you agree with this?
@@einsteinwallah2you do realise all of those institutions are run by central government right?
And how is that different from even neighboring states?
@@aaryankumar8770 i agree with you ... i am merely quoting somebody ... i am not agreeing with the quoted comment ... the quoted comment was by @biswachat8521 (Biswa Chat) who was replying to @Iamlucifeerrr (StupidCommonMan) ... in my reply here i am asking "alokekumar ghosh" who started this thread whether he agrees with the quoted part ... my intention in asking aloke babu is to know where he stands regarding idea that bengal is provider of top education as claimed by Biswa
Way back in 1970s I got my first job with Hindustan Motors in Kolkata, which at the time used to produce around 125 Ambassador cars that went on roads in towns and villages all across India. Most of the factory workers were Bengalis and Biharis, highly skilled in their jobs, but I witnessed the rot setting in right in front of my eyes. The done thing was to not work, except in overtime. As a young maintenance engineer eager to get a worker to repair a breakdown that was holding up an assembly line, I would have to first answer his question why he should do the work when the management was taking all the profits and giving him none. A worker with strong union backing used to openly make knives from pieces of scrap mild steel sheets in the tool room for selling in the market. The culture of shirking work was everywhere. The first baby steps leading to the factory's closure were being taken.
who else could Bengal elect? The Congress came and ripped apart Bengal.. then came the Left.. and now we have Congress again... is the present times better than the Left times? Who else can the electorate now? The BJP has no leader of substance at state level.
@@indro14 elect bjp regardless ... rest will be done by modi or a governor rule ... top priority is declaring wb as frontline state and have a law like article 370 and deport all illegal muslims and rohingyas ... and put all gundas in prison or what was done in punjab post bluestar by governor siddhartha shankar ray ... what law cannot solve a good governor rule and efficient police will do ... if wb secedes be prepared to fight a civil war ... modi can give freedom to punjab and bengal tomorrow but it is too late to recreate true khalistan and true bengal (fortunately bengalis are not dreaming about a "pure" nation ... "khalistan" also means "pure" nation as "pakistan" meant to a foolish senile muslim in 1930s-40s) ... bengal is fractured but hindus of bengal should be willing to fight a bloody civil war or tolerate governor rule ... otherwise islam has won ... there are more than 100 verses in quran that commands believers to go and terminate kaafirs (i am quoting adam seeker a pakistani exmuslim) ... one wonders what was happening to famed intelligence of bengalis or whether they were smoking something
@@indro14 Don't worry. In few coming decades you'll get leaders like suhrawardy and khwaza nazimuddin 😂 in west Bengal.
Iam 67yrs, I have seen all this. Very good analysis, short and to the point.
BULL SHIT TO The POINT 😂😂😂
What bull s*!t,? Seems like you're one of them he's talking about@@RAHULSEN-og6mc
Commie crying @@RAHULSEN-og6mc
Thank you, Arnab ji. Make sure to check out our previous hour-long podcast with Sanjeev Sanyal. :)
Sir, I am from Andhra, and I would like to know your opinions about Mother Theresa. Specifically the following points. Did she have political backing? Why didn't she hire any doctors to take care of the poor? Was her focus more on religion and religious conversions rather than helping the suffering? I saw an interview of hers on youtube where she claims she converted 30000 families. I am asking because the same tactics are being used by other organisations in Tamilnadu and AP. Here, we are not as much bothered about muslims as SC converted Christians. We call them CRYPTOCHRISTIANS down here.
I remember a serious newspaper article with a title”Thank God, Jyothi Basu is dead”!
He was the father of Hyderabad and Bengaluru IT hub
That was my sentiment exactly!
Exactly . It is correct thousand and.thousand times . He was a traitor . Muslim League was his favourite for making Pakistan just like the vile traitor Nehru ,A hatred destructor of excellent Sanatan Bharat Barsh . For this uncultured conspirator we have lost that heavenly god Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose . This was the worst fortune of my golden motherland .
@@rdatta7797And he was also the father of total destruction of Bengal . An anti national ,who had not any knowledge and respect for real BharatBarsh . But same time he selected Muslim league to devide motherland for invaders muslims . Why ? .Is it possible for any normal human being ? This was a hatred chapter of Bengal And all this made him a murderer of Hinduism ,Hindu and our glorious knowledge of Eternal Mother Land .
But worse came alive!!!
Communists of Bengal only served interest of China. One example, entire hosiery industries which used to lead the world market in 70s & upto mid 80s were systematically destroyed by CITU so that China can take the world hosiery market. Similarly, they did with Jute industries & extended to Rayon & cosmetic industries along with other MNCs they driven out of Bengal.
This is how WB solved it's loadshedding crisis & become energy surplus.
Why blame China or any other when the problem is very much at home?
@@marmara9741
Read properly. It's very much home grown anti nationals (both in political outfits & NGOs form) who survives on Chinese aid & carry out Chinese agenda.
@@marmara9741 If you understood what Communism is, then you would have understood what he said. Even last year, the whole of the Politburo of both Indian Communist parties attended the Chinese annual Communist party general assembly. This has been the case since 35 years after the fall of the Soviet Union with China being the largest Communist state. BUT, since China is an enemy to India as opposed to Soviet Union being an ally of India, the whole thing deteriorated faster benefitting China.
"If Mrinal Sen's movies are your aspirations then don't complain what you get."
Sometimes a phrase or sentence is enough to make one understand the moot point.
I am from Mumbai, we too got infested with the communist disease in the 80's and 90's with several mill strikes, thankfully we quickly realized that this is not the way...no matter how bad the situation is, going all red makes it WORSE...we survived that outbreak then the mafia world and thankfully evolved into a everlasting workforce..."faltu time nahi hai, kaam pe jana hai",..."apna kaam kar bhai" 😂..these values are etched in Mumbai's spirit.... I know we face huge threat from GIFT, Gujarat however we wont go down so easily like Kolkatta, its very hard to replicate the open, less judgmental, work focused culture of Mumbai!
Why threat from Guj??
Isn't it more better to have wealthier neighbors??
You guys already share enough competition from Tamil Nadu and Karnataka..
Telengana, Andhra, kerela are cancer state
@@pikachue602 It would have been a healthy competition like Hyderabad vs Bengaluru both attracting different sets of investments..however its threat because Center is deliberately pulling projects out of Mumbai and hitting its main identity of a financial capital...projects like IFSC, several PSU headquarters, NSE semi conductor, diamond borse are being built in Gujarat with a sole focus of shifting the financial center away from Mumbai...even the bullet train is being built to ease the transition out of Mumbai....Gujarat should attract new investments which were not present in Mumbai, Maharashtra rather than snatching projects away.
@@herambpatkar ??? Snatching??
C'mon..
Japanese's investors are still angry with India over Maha bullet project..
Whom r you kidding with??
The capitalist shivsena under udhav becomes a hardcore neo-liberal (socialist+communist) and that NCP chief being called the VIDYASWARUPA jñani purush are they not a massive blunder enough??
Guess what blaming others is very easy .. But look at the situation of the state of yours first .
Hyderabad and south were too heavily supported by centre and are still.
The freight equalization policy and the textile policy made the north a devastating region giving south an upper edge..
And let's forget how the looming threat of China bad rise of Marxism led the Centre unilaterally support south instead of north..
Obviously the PM being a Gujrati might have influenced by their decisions nonetheless they care more about profits then some networking that are NOT EVEN STABLE..
Looking at India's history anyone can say that the Centre cannot remain stable .
Today there is Modi overnight another party or an alliance you may say might as well capture the seat..
Hence,they rather focus on profits than the so-called connections..
GUJRAT has an open window system made under the past govt..
That facilitates business .
Do the Maha has any such mechanism? No.. I'm sorry to say but the Mumbai municipality board itself fails to decide whether the cable comes first or the concrete over the road.
The plight of the state is MVA and alliance of left that miserably failed to satisfy the industries..
And Guj has been working for over a decade..
Wish we too got one govt like that but hell with them coz they're ducking communists and anti-nationals busy catering bangladeshis Mujahideens & Shan state rebels .....
@@pikachue602 The unstable political scenario is a recent phenomenon that too due to the ruling BJP's inability to maintain transparency and trust with their long term ally, then creating unlimited hurdles for the opposition alliance to prevent them from governing properly then finally breaking the government, parties in turn coming into power absorbing opposition's leaders formerly accused by BJP themselves...prior to this we've had stable governments be it Fadnavis, Pritviraj before 2019...the IFSC went to Gujarat before 2018 when Fadnavis was the CM...BKC land where IFSC could have come up was forcefully given up for a massive bullet train station...Foxconn Vendanta, airbus went to Gujarat again when Fadnavis was the deputy CM..the Fact is even if Fadnavis genuinely want to bring projects in maharashtra, their supreme leaders at the center wont allow him to work, and just look at GIFT, forcefully setting up head quarters of PSUs like, SBI, LIC..NSE...these already had headquarters in Mumbai, NCR..no body is happy working there..no one would want to leave a thriving metropolis and work in a deadzone 10-20years away from evolution of real life...same thing with Surat Diamond Bourse...traders facing losses and rushing back to Mumbai....development should come organically, NCR, Bengaluru, Hyderabad, Pune developed due to pull factors...no city can have a long term stable development if developed with an intention of caressing egos of some supreme lords surrounded by yes men!
Better be happy that your neighbour are gujrat karnataka goa
West Bengal neighbours are bihar Jharkhand and kangladeshi chuslim
We are witnessing that how much fast the newly born cities is growing like NOIDA, Gurgaon,Pune, Ahmedabad etc.
Kolkata history is too old and it was hub of education, culture, industrial.
But now development projects is stagnant in Kolkata which is harming their growth.
So both state and central government should co-operate to each other for good future of Kolkata.
Thank you for sharing, Shiv ji. Exciting developments lie ahead, and Bengal will rise again. :)
As a marwadi living in kolkata i completely agree with sir, i used to hear the same from my grandfather that earlier when they came in kolkata and settled here, business opportunities were so much, domestically kolkata was looked upon as well as internationally, now doing job in Maharashtra i have learnt that people in corporates are reluctant to recruit people having education or exp background from kolkata, this is the level. What is alarming is that it is degrading day by day for obvious reasons which i dont want to express here. He mentioned about birla leaving, the reason was riots which were fully supported by cpm and it isn't documented anywhere, whole staff and labourers working in kesoram cotton mills were killed, burnt, raped, now this land is grabbed by people in power and illegal buildings are constructed on them.
Thank you for sharing, Pratik. That's an interesting point. :)
"in Maharashtra i have learnt that people in corporates are reluctant to recruit people having education or exp background from kolkata" --> Do you support this hatred against Bengalis? Because that will help Bengalis decide how they will treat Marwadis in Kolkata. Bengal still is the top education provider in India, with IIT-KGP, IIM-C, ISI, and many other notable institutions placed at the top of NIRF rankings published by Indian Govt on annual basis.
@@biswachat8521 Education alone is not sufficient. I find Bengalis arrogant and lazy. No work culture.
@@biswachat8521that's not hatred, that's the alarm that rings at the back of job recruiters, they don't want commie goons to rain on their parade.
@@biswachat8521 NIRF means nothing ... modi can establish educational institutions elsewhere far superior than those you mention and that pre-condition of being loved by rest of india shows your low IQ ... after maltreating "outsiders" how dare you demand respect? ... respect is earned not whiningly demanded like petulant little child ... has ISI developed any software comparable to one developed by cambridge univ psychometry department for item response theory (it is called concerto ... search: IRT CONCERTO) ... if your answer is negative ask yourself if long dead Stalin is still not influencing decisions made by ISI even today ... that my dear friend makes ISI a kachra institute ... listen: Stalin and Robindro are dead ... try coming up with better reason to feel superior
You know what's our problem? We only speak about issues, we never speak about solutions. The past cannot be changed, the future can. It would have been far more effective if you could speak about solutions to how to make Kolkata and Bengal relevant again.
Agree, we know the problems but whos gonna give the solutions and implement them...we want to be like china
stop voting for didi
He has not presented the problem (except a bit in last one minute), he has only listed some symptoms.
Don't know Kolkata has declined or not, but Bengal has not declined.
@@anjankumarchowdhury7379 bengal has not declined? Seems like you're high or you have communist agenda or you're unaware of bengals history
Focus on wealth building, man building.
the main downfall of West Bengal was when the CPM was in power. They did not allow computers or the IT industry to flourish in Kolkata because they believed it would replace humans. Now, we see the consequences as West Bengal ranks among the lowest in IT sourcing states.
😂 are u crazy the First IT hub in the country was established in Kolkata not Bangalore .. unfortunately in TMC regime sector 5 did not cross it's number ... Cpim opposed Computer placement in offices not for private use only on a condition before setting it in office people have to be trained ....such rumours are carrying forward without any basis from one person to another just for this kind of propaganda videos...
ভাই কম্পিউটার বিরোধী আন্দোলনগুলো যেখানে বিল্ডিং এর ছাদের থেকে কম্পিউটার থেকে ভাঙ্গা হচ্ছিল সেগুলো ভুলে গেছেন?? আমাদের এখানে যতটুকু কাজ হয়েছে সেটা পরবর্তীকালে বুদ্ধদেব বাবু সময় হয়েছে।
@@arkabhattacharya7412 yes I always hope you were true but matter of fact you are not, Kolkata is not counted even in top 3 IT sectors, that's hurts me the most whoever TMC / CPIM have ruled both are equally dangerous , as once new part arrives people from old party join the new one and hence it continues .
@@sannickdey6160 nothing is done , We are in the ground level currently if we don't change it will continue declining , just compare the number of startups of Bangalore, Delhi , Noida and then see Bengal , handful of companies are only there
Cañt agree more....even I m from 80s and I left Bengal because of the Left!
You left bengal because of leftists then why can't agree? Couldn't get your point
He said can't agree more... That means he agrees
Some left Madhya Pradesh because it's a casteist society, where the caste of people living inside houses is engraved on the front-gates of those houses.
Odisha has now higher per capita income than West Bengal.❤
Seriously that’s unbelievable, I mean the head start they had vs Orissa!
@@abhishek_gupta1990Goa has higher per capita than Maharashtra... Srilanka has higher than India... UP has half of Bengal... What do you mean then
Dont say same thing always . Bengal had highest per capita before cpim , tmc.@@shreyanghosh758
@@shreyanghosh758 I think what he meant was clear. Odisha of all the states which was considered backward compared to WB is today moving ahead of WB.
@@Prat2023 so having higher per capita is growing ahead.... Bengal is top5 economy in India as per recent SBI report... Orissa is not even top20 maybe.... Gdp per capita is all due to population
WestBengal is a failed state. Big tragedy. Why have 2 generations of educated Bengalis gone away? Why is the huge number of Bengali labor seeking jobs in the south_ north/ west? Very bad law and order. Pl reform and save Bengal
Yo, such content is fire! Explaining Bharat's stories in just 10 min. 💯
Absolutely Correct. I too suffered had to leave WB in 92 as there was nothing left in terms of education and jobs and industries. All Vanished. Within few years..
Agreed and Kerala is the state.
Till the 60s, Mumbai and Delhi were still competing with Kolkata and Asansol-Raniganj Durgapur-Burnpur- Kulti corridor in terms of per capita income.
Bengalis will never acknowledged how a communist and secular nature made them this way. Like it or not yes this city is a place where today Forbes rulers used to live. I remember my grandfather saying Kolkata ki Amiri hi alag thi. But what to do when U have mind either U can make gifted city into garbage or could have turned into Bangalore or Mumbai. But Bengali choose another way
Same with Tamilnadu
@@bibhudattaardu9711 Tamils are way ahead in this identity and secularism politics with Thier Dravidian mindset. A Malaysian Tamil is more proud of Thier Indian heritage than tamilian living in Tamil Nadu 😂😂😂. Let's them have that we Gujaratis and marwaris are enough to protect spread and spend a lot of money in our religion. No need of Dravidian Tamil to think about that. There are enough Birla Mandirs and Akshar dharma Swaminarayan temples isckon to spread our dharma. There are businessman like ambanis birlas damanis shanghvis and kotaks to support our Hindus organisation not need of these Tamilu support
@@RijanKhanal-jh6tBut Hindu population Reduced to 78 from 84 percent post partition,Hindus are declining in India and Abrahms followers are growing rapidly
I am the daughter of a Govt doctor of a small town from Assam......not from a so-called deprived family......but yet I studied near the kerosene lamp in the 90s...... And I thought that was normal until I met people of my age from other states😢
PS: We had electricity connection. But there were frequent power cuts....
Same here in my village in Assam
I can relate this, because my father who was in his 20s in the 1980s told me how computers where thrown from the BPO building in Kolkata(fact: the first computer in india came to kolkata at BPO building . This lead to the whole IT hub getting crashed and all the commerce industries - 99% of them had headquarters here in Kolkata, then shifted to Mumbai, Delhi, Chennai and Bangalore due to the situation explained by Sanjeev Sanyal sir.
Morarji Desai asked them to go away from Calcutta and West Bengal; otherwise he would not give them any contract, or permits to produce, or license to imports. That was the reason most industries and big companies went away along with all the major foreign banks. That has nothing to do with the CPIM or CITU who came afterwards.
Sanjeev is spot on. He has the guts and the courage to spell out and explain it in a lucid manner.How well he explained and setting up the context with Europe.
Thank you, Ranajit ji. Make sure to check out our previous hour-long podcast with Sanjeev Sanyal. :)
Kolkatta not developing is big pain point for all the ne states ...now they have to relocate to andaman , hyderabad , bangalore etc straining other states ...good m8nds suffered by politics
not only to NE, but to BIhar, Jharkhand, Odisha too.
Think about a cosmopolitan city like Delhi Near Bihar, Half of Bihar would have been developed just due to trickle down approach
Bengal is a net in migration state as per India Govt's data in 2022. That is, the number of people migrating from other states into Bengal is more than the number of people migrating from Bengal to other states. It is true that politics killed Kolkata. But one of the reasons why Kolkata couldn't prosper is also the failed states (like Bihar, UP, Assam, NE-states, Odissa etc.) in its neighborhood with no big cities nearby to do business with.
Was very interesting hearing Sanjeev sir speak about Kolkata's decline over the years...
The Great bengal will rise again, sun rise from east.
@@indology7975 maybe!
@@suparnamaity284 true
@@suparnamaity284why?
Thank you Sanjeev for putting it in such a forthright manner. I also witnessed the murder. Is a revival possible?
Not possible as long as Mamta Banerjee is around.Also Bengal needs to produce a leader of the
caliber of Neveen Patnaik.Unfortunately there is no leader like him in Bengal today.
Bjp will never come. Bengal has 30% muslims . Last time bjp won 44% votes thats maximum considering they got 65% hindu vote.@@subhajitguha3283
@@subhajitguha3283 oh please, from where does Naveen Patnaik come from? We don't want our state to be modelled on the CM of a irrelevant vassal state in Eastern India.
Bengal will find it's new leader from its own soil, who has a calibre and capability to change the fortunes of Bengal, and bring back the old glory and pride. We need someone of the stature and visionary like Modi.
Revival is definitely possible!
Neither I am a political person nor I have sound knowledge on the history, but being born in the 90's till date I have seen Kolkata being stabbed to death by these political parties be it CPIM or the TMC.
If I do a benchmarking Bengal had the biggest and wisest political heads in the country which has been mislead over decades. I somehow feel that in the next upcoming votes if BJP comes into position, things might change and Kolkata might get back the heritage it has lost over the years. Fingers Crossed 🤞🤞
there is a comment here on this video: [quoting somebody:] "in Maharashtra i have learnt that people in corporates are reluctant to recruit people having education or exp background from kolkata" --> Do you support this hatred against Bengalis? Because that will help Bengalis decide how they will treat Marwadis in Kolkata ... do you think how bengalis are treated elsewhere should guide a bengali person to decide how he will treat marwadis? or make a decision about voting a party?
The problem in Venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented, but that socialism has been faithfully implemented. From the Soviet Union to Cuba to Venezuela, wherever true socialism or communism has been adopted, it has delivered anguish and devastation and failure. Those who preach the tenets of these discredited ideologies only contribute to the continued suffering of the people who live under these cruel systems.
Donald Trump
Socialism is just a lie that is fed to the people so corrupt talentless peole who are incaple of building anything can assume power and hijack the recources that are meant for the people. The states only goal should be making opportunity to study, start businesses available to everyone. If the state starts trying to ensure equal outcomes for all citizes certain disaster awaits the whole society. In reality, socialism is pretty much impossible to achieve in a massive country like ours.
Quoted a mad dog who is hated by his fellow citizen...😂
@@arkabhattacharya7412cope harder
Yes but marx not a mad dog. Hes a pseudo intellectual who is a god to the lazy
I will only quote the following poster during the time
"আইসো আমি তোমাদিগকে আলোর পথ দেখাই " - যীশু
"আইসো আমি তোমাদিগকে অন্ধকারের পথ দেখাই " - বসু
There is one State in the South on the verge of collapse because of too much Socialism 😊
Kerala
So true!!
The aspiration of Bengal people killed Kolkata.🥹
Yes, hundred percent. Economic development create an atmosphere for everything.
Thank you for sharing. Exciting developments lie ahead, and Bengal will rise again. :)
We have the habit of "naam bangeai khai". You see the current political leadership always taking the name of bengali greats. Every community goes through a process of rise and decline and we are currently in the decline. Our so called intellectuals are busy licking boots rather than having serious sophisticated discussion of solutions. Look at our youngsters socialized with bankrupt communist ideologies. It feels like all are part of 'another brick in the wall'.
No man, new generation Bengalis aren't communists anymore. They hate this obsolete ideology. The new ambitious Bengali generation is either leaving the state for better opportunities outside, or living inside the state, doing their own/family business or politics. That's the present scenario of West Bengal, the biggest tragedy of India.
@@rourib.dutt20well in coming years real bengali will be minority in their state and Bangladeshi will be in majority. Bengali will eventually have to leave
I'm in awe of the way you have so precisely explained the decline of Bengal and the main reason behind it. Hats off to you sir!
Being a Bengali, I do second his statement except his comment on Mrinal Sen. He was one of the finest director and his movies are not widely seen by commoners due to many layers of complexities. Why are people making so much houl and cry including Jawahar Sircar, IAS (Retd.) along with lumpen TMC cadres. Most youngsters in Bengal today are clueless about shaping their career and educated youngsters are taking short cut route for easy earning by rubbing their shoulder with wrongdoers. How many Bengalis are into start up ventures? Why is that no. so little as compared to other states? Actual answer lies what Mr. Sanjeev Sir told. Today migrated Bengalis are contributing much to the nation building than those son of the soil.
Agree with you
> Most youngsters in Bengal today are clueless about shaping their career and educated youngsters are taking short cut route for easy earning by rubbing their shoulder with wrongdoers.
the irony of going on strikes just so you can bag a criminally overpaid govt job with non-existent responsibilities. I wonder how many of them will turn dangerously suicidal past say like 35 when they won't have as much youthful energy to see themselves through the bleak and depressing reality.
"Sera Bangali" -( Best Bengali ) a prestige that used to be awarded to the highest standards and quality of social, sports, economic, political and other fields, which was given to the likes of befitting Sourav Ganguly and several other politicians or people who supported the socialist mind-set only.
Unfortunately, they failed to acknowledge Swami Vivekananda or Ram Krishna Paramhamsa as Sera Bangali.
I did most of my schooling in Kolkata in the ‘70s…. I do relate with this very closely indeed 😢
What was Kolkata like in the 1980s?
Very aptly described and absolute reality of the reasons why Kolkata is what it is today. The Cpim just destroyed it and now the new ones are looting what is left of it.
Fully agree with mr sanyal. Am also from the 80s era and saw its destruction, from which it never recovered.
Thank you. Make sure to check out our previous hour-long podcast with Sanjeev Sanyal. :)
He have not mentioned few key points here - 1. Freight equalisation policy 2. Being Bengal is a border state and central govt never fenced it’s border with Bangladesh like for Pakistan 3. Giving up mineral reach districts to Bihar etc etc
Sach bol raha hai
:)
I am also from early 70's birth. An pain fully watched de industrial movement and now a resident of western India. It really painful
Can feel this in my core 😔
Very well said heard lot of stories about Bengal , the reason my great grand parents came to Bengal not any other place and now it really pains our heart seeing things that are happening. Let's pray to God it resurges again.
Exciting developments are on the horizon, Rajiv ji. :)
"cholche na...cholbe na...kalo haat vengey dao....guriay dao......nipat jak...manchi na...manbo na...loadshedding...hurricane lamp studies for the full school going tenure....mosquitoes....bandh...hartal: a baby one for 12 hrs, big brothers follow for 24,48,72 hrs, high rudeness of all white clad octogenarians, closure of factories, sheds, gheraoed till hospital shifting...." .....ahh those "nice" childhood days of 70s 80s....etched in memory for ever!
Sanjeev Sanyal is partly correct when he says that Kolkata was murdered during the Left Front regime. The fact is, Kolkata was great during the age of mostly Hindu kings and zamindars, which is wrongly called "British rule." Once multiparty secular democracy was imposed, the decline started, and after the late 1960s, the decline accelerated. Every country, region, and community following multiparty secular democracy will perish. Look around the world: Europe, North America, Japan, and South Korea are all heading towards extinction because of dismally lower birth rates. Dismally lower birth rates and the atomization of individual identities lead to disaster.
Sanjeev sir is great...
Thank you. Make sure to check out our previous hour-long podcast with Sanjeev Sanyal. :)
Please come back and save West Bengal
Loke vote debe onake??? Sob to lokkhi r bhandar konnashree bhata peye ghumiye ache
vote TMC😂😂
Yes, in 2026.
@@goldenpencil6398bjp will never come because Bengal has 30% muslims.
@@suparnamaity284 Muslims are also fed up with TMC. The rise of ISF is a case in point.
He is absolutely right.
We suffered a lot.
But now what's next?
Being Bengali, it hurts us so much after seeing the present Kolkata, the city that used to be the 2nd capital of the world's largest Empire after London.... Dirty Politics has killed Kolkata.... Kolkata was supposed to be the Superpower of India Today, but it ended up remaining jst an ordinary city today.... 😢
Very eye opening video of WEST BENGAL
The great industrialist Aditya Birla was humiliated in the most horredous manner. He was beaten, stripped almost naked. What else you expect?. Bengal was No.1 industrial state. Many industries shut down. At that time states like Maharashtra, Gujrat, Karnataka welcomed them. Result these states progressed and Bengal became impoverished
The fall of West Bengal marked the rise of Odisha
Sanjeev Sanyal talking pretty logical and truth. Not trying to hide being a Bengali, and apprehending that, if I say all these wrongs, the others especially those who want to dominate by speaking viceful about Bengalis shall get a fillip further. Now speaking truth and accepting faults at right earnest, is the first step to correct and is the way forward.
Great conversation 😊
Thank you. Make sure to check out our previous hour-long podcast with Sanjeev Sanyal. :)
Thank you for stepping up and telling the truth
:)
I am 76 year old, born in Kolkata and have seen several transformations of Kolkata, now suffering from intellectual and cultural degradation and decay. May God save my City.
Bengal will rise again. Be sure to share the podcast within your circle. :)
City of joy got converted into city of sorrow, desperation due to abject poverty. ☺
Jyoti brought darkness , Mamata brought cruelty and worse ! It is completely true ! Actually more than murder of Bengalee as a race and coming up of non- Bengalees in Kolkata / WB State at the cost of friendly local people . Political parties Congress , CPM and now criminal TMC colluded for short term economic gains ! Traitors , no question !
Kolkata's sole reason of downfall are the elitist Kolkatans like Sanjeev Sanyal. In the entire interview, he only takes one city's name - Kolkata. Where is West Bengal? Is it at all a state? Kolkatans from the time of Bengal Renaissance have been thinking like this. Every effing thing was Kolkata-centered. Every minister used to be Kolkata-centric, every development except for first few years of the left rule and a few years of BC Roy's rule was Kolkata centric. Kolkata people take a huge pride in claiming themselves superior to the ones from 'mofossol' and that's what drove them not to do anything for the rest of Bengal. In his beloved 70s, small towns were dying. In my own family there are examples when exam got called off due to the bomb explosion by the ruling party in the 70s and it was NOT the 'left rule' ; one after another job got cancelled even after the offer letter was delivered because some leader's 'poshyoputras' got the job and it was also NOT the left rule. Two brothers were called from their house while having lunch and got shot from point blank range and it was also NOT the 'left rule'. People like Sanjeev Sanyal was then basking in their St Lawrence/La Marts glory preparing to leave Bengal to spew venom at Bengalis as a whole at a later point in their lives. Shame on them!
Agree with you, although I will be less harsh on Mr. Sanyal. When they say Bengali, they mean upper caste, middle class, Calcutta centered mostly Hindu Bengalis. Bengal is vast and diverse. The wealth that was created was based on exploitative policies (zamindari for collecting taxes, opium trade, indigo trade, etc.) of the colonial rule destroyed much of the hinterland of Calcutta including what is West Bengal today. That economy was not sustainable. The land redistribution by the Left Front earlier has reversed some of the damage that the West Bengal as part of the eastern region inherited. Is not Mr. Sanyal aware of it?
@@sskiyerNot sure but Sanyal probably is also a zamindar descendant. He forgets/deliberately ignores the fact that the wealth in the 19th century was created mostly due to the British Permanent Settlement act. Bengalis never liked business, the Bengali zamindars earned wealth in the form of taxes from different parganas of West Bengal occasionally visiting those places for entertainment. Probably Prince Dwarkanath Tagore was an exception who tried to create a business conglomerate. Marwari, Parsi, Armenian, Jews community have been controlling the business in the city from the 19th century. Dwarkanath himself used to trade opium and when his grandson Rabindranath got to know this fact, he burnt down all his belongings - not sure about its veracity though. Whatever it is, that zamindari wealth was long ago finished by their descendants in extravagant and indecent lifestyles. Then the partition created a huge blow in the entire race. The downfall had begun just after independence. It's just that it started to show late. LF did if not many two good things- land distribution and free education and a huge salary increment of the govt school teachers that in turn helped in the recruitment of talents in teaching jobs. I am also a product of pure govt school and I proudly say that.
@@sayanchatterjee5826 Agree with you. I am glad you know these facts and are willing to articulate them. More people need to know this, rather than the bhadralok version of history. My prognosis is however positive for the region. In the last two decades, thanks to technological progress (mostly from outside India in the form of internet, smart phones, etc.) and the liberalisation that happened in early 1990s. The basic standards of living has increased significantly across board. We do not see today the abject poverty that was present at the time of independence extending till almost 1970s and 80s. But then, we have to compare with rest of the country and the world - today, in the increasingly connected world, that is the benchmark. But I do see change for the better. It is inevitable that in a decade or so, it the state and region will make great strides. The youth will lead the way. [Orissa is a great example on how things can change. I do not say Orissa has arrived yet, but it is way more advanced than what it was just three decades back, especially the coastal regions.]
But whatever Sanjiv said is true. Hate to tell but that work culture among Bengalis is missing. When I asked one businessman in Kolkata (he was a Kannadiga) why the locals are not good in work. He replied why not, Bengalis are good in art, music, discussion, dramas, cinemas but not in work.
@@maheshgh1969 work culture is definitely a problem but it is not due to any 'ism' per se. Bengali people have been like this for ages. Rabindranath Tagore wrote this sarcastically when Marx was not even known probably" অন্নপায়ী বঙ্গবাসী, স্তন্যপায়ী জীব, জনাদশেক এ জটলা করি তক্তপোষে বসে"(loose translation is : we are rice eating mammals, we love to sit in our sofa and gossip"). Every race has some unique characteristics, German and Nordic people are not the same. But go to any academic institution be it IIT, IISC, IIM you'll see a lot of Bengali professors, one race doesn't like to do business doesn't mean they are useless. period
This man is a Gem.
Thanks, Rohit. Do spread his wisdom within your circle. :)
It's important for folks to realise that kolkata has the 3rd largest GDP after Mumbai and NCR even after so many decades of stagnancy. For India to grow beyond a certain level, Kolkata has to grow. You can build a patna or a Bhubaneswar, but fact of the matter is, Kolkata is still bigger than both in terms of potential purely because of legacy. Kolkata has to grow!
Are u a expelled Bangladeshi ?
@@shreeyanksinghvi7748 nahi jab tum Bharat me bojh banke beithe the tab Jo freedom fighters larke ajadi dilaya Bharat ko uo unhi ke bangsaj hay . Hame Indian mano ge to ajadi ke liye atleast Bhartiya pe abhari raho ge barna Bangladeshio k g* chatte raho ge tum jaise loghi kaite he ki J&K Bharat ka hissa nahi
3rd largest GDP? Are you in fool's paradise?
@@shreeyanksinghvi7748 read
@@maheshgh1969 nope, looks like you’re in
Same thing happening in Kerala 😢
Stay tuned. We're currently working on a podcast featuring Kerala. :)
@@TheNeonShowwWaiting for it
I agree with all the words that Bengal is facing the lack of Industry and Economic growth. Not only Kolkata the whole West Bengal state is facing such problems and a huge brain drains are happening because of this that's why you got the point, kolkata is now not able to produce such a gem like we had in golden times. A person who has that ability to be is being pushed to other states for job and eventually he gets dettached from it's root culture and the intellectuality is not getting developed because a fast life will not give you the luxury to be an intellectual. It needs an enourmous time to gain all kind of knowledges.
At the same time I did't agree with your dirrection of thought that bring this Ayodhya building Govt and WB will regain it's power back, because if u say 34 years govt murdered WB, today's govt is putting the dead body in coffin or burning (imp for communal minded readers ) then that Big man's govt will tear apart the Bengal . Many can say after reading this that this thought is absolutely wrong but truely Bengali people knows how to pull them up by themselves. That's the beauty of tolerence, you are also a Bengali and u know how much tolerence we have, we have the capability to take any kind of criticism without starting a fight.
This is absolutely true Bengal needs a second birth and that will happen surely by the hands of Bengalis themselves, she will surely regain her's lost glory back, we have to avoid any kind of communall minded politicians and peoples and have to evolve ourselves to bring money and Industry to this state so that as a Bengali you never have to criticise your's own community infront of others.
I hope every Benagli person reading this can get the "heart tearing" feelling, because we know how potential we are but in the circle of time we are not in the best position to just argue. We have to digest any kind of criticism no matter how much worst it can be, but have to work collectively to bring back the Glorious past of Bengal in upcomming days.
When Calcutta was the capital,its cultural, social , business activity flourished.By shifting the same to Delhi business activity developed around Faridabad,Gurugram,Noida, Gaziabad etc. Also Delhi University has the largest applicants for their courses. So there is no point in calling a spade a spade,a decline a decline.
The Bahi-khata is a double-entry system of bookkeeping that predates the ‘Italian/Florentine’ method by many centuries. Its existence in India prior to the Greek and Roman empires suggests that Indian traders took it with them to Italy, and from there the double-entry system spread through Europe. The Bahi-khata is described and its double-entry principles explained. Source: Bahi-Khata: The Pre-Pacioli Indian Double-entry System of Bookkeeping
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Kolkata is far better than congested cities like Delhi Mumbai and Bangalore
Please explain your point
Please explain your point
OK then why people are going there for job congestion is there as demand is high here no demand so no congestion
That's partially true. Presently WB has some reasonable qualities due to the power of the common man 👑 nothing else. But is it enough to redeem & resurrect a ghost town? Personally I'm myself waiting for leadership that's outside the embarrassing CPM-TMC-BJP triad altogether.
Well said. Being a local and staying at abroad apart working with different communities atNCR, Bangalore, Gujrat i.e. having seen the other sides. Key points what needs to considered are :-
1. Partition & impact on common Bengali who were traditionally not having business acumen like Punjab side but preferred jobs or a secure place to live - many parties including left after ‘71 used this. Many people got benefited too. But focus on industry and big ideas took a backseat.
2. Hard fact but true a huge ‘minority vote bank’ was successfully used by left and now TMC to keep them in power even if things are going at other direction. Sad but true many of them just voted en mass based on ‘some other guidance’ than development even if over 40% of other Bengali population do wanted a change. This remains a key factor even today as population dynamics change at certain district and exploitation by parties to pull the overall direction back.
3. The trader community from certain western states used their collective money to buy the key businesses, land and property to push local Bengalis away. Some second or third generation may show concern here but what’s their contribution except grabbing a state where they didn’t belong and used for own business benefits. Look at Kolkata and go to their shops how many Bengali signboards you will see or how many will speak in local language? Can you believe it in Karnataka or Tamilnadu ? Take a 50 Q sheet on Bengal & it’s culture and see how many they can score ? Take a mobile cam & do it own. They also successfully used their wealth to ‘manage’ parties in power little care on urban planning or long term growth. The Bengal fame we talk about was driven by Bengali middle class and educationalist. Now even majority of pvt schools is owned by these traders and there are even non matric woman from their families leading it. A Bengali engineer from famous Jadvapur Uni has to bribe for his daughters admission as they don’t see enough family education background. Can you see it elsewhere?
Great narrative on Kolkata by Sanjeev, impressive orator backed up verifiable data।
What I perceive from this, is that greatness in Sanjeev Sanyal's eyes is a very restricted sphere. To be able to see greatness in today, you have to move on from the dwellings of the past. Art is still created in nooks and corners of Kolkata. Science is still done in its old, but capable laboratories. Somewhere, in a musty classroom in Presidency or Calcutta or Jadavpur University, there's some student working out a solution to some millenium prize problem. Right below that classroom, in the open yard, maybe one of his classmates is speaking about class and caste oppression, and fighting for student rights. Dreams, in some or the other form, is still sold in the streets of Kolkata in the forms of handwritten leaflets and self-published books. Maybe there will be no second Vivekananda from Bengal, much like there will be no second Gandhi from Gujarat. But, there is definitely still greatness present in every gully of this city, and this country. You just have to open your eyes wide enough to see it, and feel it.
If u are great then why are you coming for job ?
That may be true but joy and hope and security have to be broadbased.
@@shreeyanksinghvi7748 are people from other states not coming to Bengal for employment? If not so, then how can you explain the expanding IT industry, for which an entire new sector has been mandated, and construction has begun already? How can you explain the incoming PhD students, and the labourers? Is it not true that this country is an entire structure, and if it is so, shouldn't there be regions that specialize in a certain thing? Maybe Bengal doesn't specialize in industries, maybe there aren't any "industries" in Kolkata. Maybe because of the population boom and the high % of bengali people in higher education, a lot of them had to migrate for jobs. But that is how a country grows. One region needs, another one provides.
@@jp-jb1bw this modern world gives you less and less security, personal and career-wise. It is no fault of a city, or even a country. The world is headed in a new direction, and this security issue will definitely be there. But one thing that has not faded away from Kolkata and Bengali people is the way they protect and at the same time, experiment with their culture. And joy and hope, I believe, are very conditional and mostly objective in nature.
You are correct , he is true in his restricted sphere,it depends on people ,how different people see Kolkata.Probably Kolkata is great from my perspective because of its uniqueness and now Mr Sanyal having shifted to New Delhi will comment negetives.At the end of the it doesnt matter .
When Hindus of India were divided, tried to kill each other among themselves, fought among themselves then India was attacked from outside India and ruined, similarly as Hindu Bengalis are divided and trying to destroy among themselves now West Bengal is being ruined by suicidal attitudes towards Delhi.
I fully understand and appreciate what Sanjeev is saying here. Having started my career in CAL(I came from far away Coimbatore) in early 90s, I travelled almost every corner of the city. When saw those closed factories and ghost industrial areas around Budge budge, tarotalla, howrah etc I used wonder why these are shut and what really happened?. I was emotionally connected to the city and felt very bad for CAL. I hope it revives again, for that to happen Bengalis have to make up their mind.
Kolkata has the worst from corporate culture. Only a handful of companies such as Tata and ITC have bases. Outsiders are not welcome, even if you are Bengali outside of Kolkata, People ask about your schooling, caste and colleges. I have wasted 5 years of my time in Kolkata, no growth. Highly politicised culture, work ethic, team formation, proactive, result driven culture is 0. That's why millions of youngsters are zeroing in towards Bangalore, Mumbai and Delhi.
Truth is great but half-truth is horrible.
Truth is also stranger than fiction... especially far stranger than quixotic ideals of half baked socialist and leftist scoundrels.
@anjanghosh9422 pls share addtional details.
Like BAM Pantha😂😂😂
What are you blabbering
Could you elaborate. I would mention the refugees influx and disregard by the central government in the decline of the city and state.
It is much easier to throw mud at anyone or at any place as you did this elaborately in your presentation but what worthwhile contribution you offered to The Government of INDIA, being an economic adviser, to bring in the industry in the state, you studied and nursed your ambition. You only consolidated your position in the ministry and fell in line with the hierarchy,
The Great bengal will rise again, sun rise from east.
Cant even vote for bjp
. Bjp will never come . Check muslim population.
@@suparnamaity284 you female or male
In some point I strongly disagree with Sanjeev Sanyal ji. Yes Jyoti Basu's era in some extent was dark. But when Buddhadeb Bhattacharya was elected for CM, he was publicly critical to his predecessor's economic policy. He created first IT Hub of the Eastern India in Salt Lake. In his 2004 to 2011 period the West Bengal's economy was booming. 1,313 industrial unit had established, investment of 36,498 crore rupees were invested. According to NSSO report, from 2004 to 2011 West Bengal was on the top in whole nation at Industrial Job Manufacturing. Second was Gujarat. I still remember between the year of 2006 to 2011 BJP-TMC-Cong-Naxalite-Media nexus destroyed TATA's Nano plant in Singur and Salim Group's Petro Chemical's project in Nandigram. Mamata Banerjee got herself Bengal's throne capitalizing that turmoil. And surprising fact is Congress, Naxalites, RSS-BJP openly supported her.
so you mean you destroy the backbone of bengal for 23 years... narrow down their aspirations.. and all of that is cemented by doing an IT hub majority of which employs very low skilled labors?
@@Sayanchakrabortyuponmetal No, I didn’t mean that. Read my full comment first. There is a famous interview with journalist Pranab Roy and Buddhadeb Bhattacharya on CZcams. You can watch that. Are IT employees low skilled than jute mill and steel mill workers? জ্যোতি বসুর আমলে সবচেয়ে বেশি বন্ধ হয়েছে জুট মিল আর ইস্পাত মিল। তাহলে ভাই আরও হাই স্কিলড বলতে কুটির শিল্প কিংবা তাঁত শিল্প। Then 'Tantuja' and 'Manjusha' cooperative projects were initiated in Left-rule for Tant workers. And in cottage industry, WB had being ranked in top 5 states throughout Left-rule. Let's come to the point, IBM, Cognizant, Accenture like companies came in Salt Lake at that era, TCS settled their office in Salt Lake. He planned a Chemical Hub in Nayachar. He welcomed Mitsubishi Electric to West Bengal, made Videocon industry in North Bengal, he brought Wipro and Infosys in that IT Hub. He started develop Rajarhat-Newtown smart cities. He started the plantation of Jindal steel plant in the 'Red Corridor of West Bengal' Shalbani, in that he was attacked by Naxalites by mine explosion. During the six years between 2004 and 2011, more than 40 per cent of new manufacturing jobs created in India were generated in the then Left-ruled West Bengal. In all, 58.7 lakh manufacturing jobs were created across India. Of these, 24 lakh were in West Bengal (Source: NSSO). He just got 5 years. From 2006 Nandigram and Singur turmoil happened. And the cherry on the top TMC and SUCI called 36 to 42 all-Bengal violent strikes.
You're a Bengali এবং বয়সে নবীন, btw you can see Buddhadeb Bhattacharya (in January, 2022 he was nominated for Padma Bhushan) is respected by everyone, Left to Right-wingers.
Firstly he didn't say anything about buddhadeb bhattacharya. I also agree that buddhadeb was keen to industrialisation. But it was his party men and their ideology which demolished his idea. Opposition party in democracy is always be their to take advantage. You forgot his party men's atrocities against common men. Remember lakhman Seth in haldiya, Anuj Pandey firing innocent public that too the minorities. Before that buddhadeb spoke against madrasa sikhya, then there was a case of rijwanur. Once minority vote gone who would save his govt? It's purely immaturity and adamant nature of buddhadeb that bring him down though his intentions was good.
@@niladribanerjee2821 Absolutely Sir. But Buddhadeb Babu had his loyal workforce in his ministry too. Like Gautam Deb, Nirupam Sen, Ashim Dasgupta. But there was clearly been a lobby between Kolkata District Committee (soft-liner) and North 24 Pargana District Committee (hard-liner). Buddhadeb Babu was from Kolkata. So he was neglected and some extent back stabbed by his North 24 comrades within the party. মমতার কথা নাহয় বাদই দিলাম😅
@@Saswata_97gadha na Ki tora na ki Beshi paka?
Tui ekta puro Generation k English Pora theke, Logic and Analytics Pora r theke baire Rekhe Diye Judi oi shesh e IT hub khulish sheyta Bhalo? Maane Its Like Sorry re Tor Haat ta Kete fellam Boti diye Ei ne 5 takar Band Aid?
Well said. Along with the Government, also it's people are equally responsible for it's down fall.
Well, being brought up in the early 80s in Kolkata I also have the same feeling.
Bengalies are obsessed with their past.
But I guess during the last 5-7 yrs things have changed a bit.. Somehow many bengalies have started critising themself.. And also comfortable in articulating and accepting the faults..even in open forum..Which to me.. A very healthy sign.. One needs to 'accept the lacuna first'.. Before the corrective actions can be initiated..
The State GDP has proved to be promising.. I guess..
What Jyoti Basu did, or allowed is exactly what Modi is doing over the last 10 years.
Difference is
Basu allowed it as he was ordered by his party to support that in the name of communism.
Modi does it as he is part of the communalist medieval rss.
Are u expelled Bangladeshi Hindu ?
Better be a "communalist" than converting into islam and coming under sharia
I have lived in Kolkata for 36 years and what the speaker says is true!
Thanks, Mohan. Make sure to share it within your circle to raise awareness. :)
RSS Ideology COMPLETE BAKWAS ... its not as stark he makes it out to be ... massacre😂😂 i challenge him to say Godhra and Gujrat without taking any names ..
@@TheNeonShoww shared with a group with over 1000 members who have or have had a Kolkata connection
I still remember when all companies that were operating in Northeast used to have their head offices in Kolkata. Lots of MNCs were there.
But now Guwahati has those Headoffices .Also, MNCs moved out, and there are no new MNCs
Unfortunately this guy knows a lot of European history but not history of Bengal
wtf bro
@@ExmuslimHafiz he could say nothing about the rise of Communists and why Bengal declined due to foolish policies of GOI during that time. Planned economy destroyed Bengal after partition had already wounded it. Communists just utilised poverty for their own vote bank and solidified their power and corruption
@@saptorsheechakraborty I guess, you should blame to host for that and not speaker.. Host because he not ask more deep questions.. And is sanjeev has knowledge or not you have to be curious first, why not you go and find his another podcasts for that..
@@rahulmore4584 host asked and i think he brought him back because of this specific segment and Mr. Sanyal failed to explain. And i know about their depth of knowledge especially some economic advisors of PM unfortunately they are not fit but PM is helpless as no right wing economic intellectuals exists.
@saptorsheechakraborty bro, freight equalization policy no longer exists, india has liberalized, so why is west Bengal still behind,
I agree of my life upto 1997 in and around Calcutta and in best educational institutes and one of the biggest manufacturing companies of the then India in senior positions…
My request to Prime Minister Narendra Modi that if you want to leave Power in 2026 please don't go. But if at all you go please make 10 persons of different age in the coming 2 years with your virtue of selecting the gems like Mr Sanyal. Being a Bengali I am requesting this. He is not narrating a past he's telling the Geeta Vedas Puranas of Bengali psyche.
This is what I am saying from years and I am happy that you have described it do nicely. Having got a valuble position I am hopeful that you must have convinced PM that to develop India, Kolkata has to be developed
8:53 "Aantel" 😂😂😂 what an accurate description... only sir can be so precise on this topics!!!
Even in the same regime while interviewing by a main stream midea reporter with the then cabinet minister proudly told -- this type of voting ( read booth capturing and rigging) is our tradition . 😮
Agree....I born and brought up in certain Industrial township in kolkata....that happend to manufacture bulbs,cycles,jute,electrical materials etc....but today skelitons of these giant corporations are place of unsocial activities....Today avenue of income generation is so narrow that Bengalis migrated other states for daily wages....Noone is available to take care of old people....previous Govt admitted the state in Icu...This Govt left the corpse for vultures and dogs....as no money is left for cremation....
Sanjeev has great clarity of thought.
Would love to meet him one day.
I like his interest in so many things……esp ships
Awesome pieceof knowledge what a legend, superb podcast.!!🎉🎉
Thanks, Akash ji. Make sure to listen to our previous hour-long podcast featuring Snajev Sanyal. :)