Police Motor School BMW R1200RT Track Day! Braking and Cornering!
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Welcome Back to McLovin Moto! Ever wonder what it takes to Pass a Basic Police Motor School? It is anything but easy! It’s 80 hours of grueling cone work, road riding in formation, braking exercises and some track time. In this episode we hit the track to work on braking from 40 and 60 mph, and curve negotiation. We followed that up with some night riding in formation. If you have questions for me leave them in the comments! Also, thank you to the West Metro Motor Training Team for allowing me to film and assist with instructing.
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Your vids are a great peek into how the pros do it. I find the training regime really interesting and insightful. We are fortunate that your chiefs let you record the training and that you do it, especially with a bit of your expert value add commentary. Huge fan.
Thank you very much and appreciate you watching!
Thank you for the videos. It’s July 17, 2021. I start motor school on Monday, for the Yakima County Sheriffs Office. 🤘🏻
Awesome! Have a great time! It’s a very difficult class but with some perseverance and some good instruction you’ll get through it!
I love these videos, I've learnt so much on youtube with videos such as these. I used to ride in my 20's (and was a little crazy if I'm honest), I came back to motorcycles 20 years (and maybe a bit more ;) ) later. So it's been a while since I did my license. I was lucky to have a very good instructor back then, so I learned a lot of road craft, but obviously you forget things over the years.
I OD'ed on these types of videos before going out and getting my latest motorcycle, just to remind myself of the hints and tips of being a safer, better rider. Any fool can yank a throttle, but having a good road positioning and awareness although aren't rocket science, they are still skills every biker should be practicing on every ride.
I've clocked up a lot of miles since getting back to bikes, but I've not once come back from a ride stressed or agitated, reason being, I've felt in control and aware of what's going on around me. For sure I've had the odd muppet pull out or do something else stupid, but because I was prepared and I'd been in the best position I could be (all things I've picked up from videos such as these), I could deal with them in time and it wasn't a big shock that took me completely off guard. Preparation, prevents pi$$ poor performance....as they say :)
I noticed from some of your other videos the braking techniques. This is something I'd like to practice a bit more.
What's the best choice in an emergency braking situation, just concentrate on putting the brakes as hard on as possible without locking up or relying too much on the ABS and pulling in the clutch just before stalling (say if you were in 4th or 5th gear), or should the rider also be trying to change down the gears whilst also braking heavy?
If you get a chance in your busy schedule to reply, I'd really appreciate your thoughts/insight.
Thanks again for the great videos.
Thank you for watching and appreciate the comment. As far as emergency braking goes, we are taught to do 4 things simultaneously. Suck in the clutch, apply smooth but firm pressure to both front and rear brake, using threshold braking, meaning firm enough to stop quickly, right on the verge of getting into abs. If you’re into ABS that’s okay. And the fourth thing happening is shifting down to first gear. These four things should be happening all at the same time. That way, when you do come to a stop you can take off again quickly should potentially a car behind you not see you and maybe be close to rear ending you. Hope this helps.
In review, clutch in, application of front and rear brakes at threshold-max braking levels, while downshifting to first gear.
@@Mclovingarage Thank you for taking the time to reply. Yep, good to read that you are re-affirming what I thought should be going on.
Not that you would have this at work, but maybe another step to add is using your back, arms to hold your Girlfriend/wife in place whilst she's sliding forward due to the heavy braking! :))
Although I think I'll practice a fair bit on my own before I add her to my training runs....lends itself to a more harmonious relationship ;)
Thanks again for the great videos and sharing your experience.
Awesome video mate thanks for Sharing some of your life with us.
All the way from Eastern Europe ! Thumbs up ! What a great content ! Keep up the good work mate !
Thank you very much!
Thanks a lot. Your training videos are very good, particularly the segments with your voice-over comments where you provide tips on improving riding and safety skills.
Thank you! I’ll keep trying to do more as I get the opportunities. Appreciate you watching!
New to watching your videos, but brings back memories as I am a retired motor from California now living in Colorado. I was on the bike for 27 out of 30 years and after seven years of being off a road bike, I just bought a 2016 R1200RT. I am very rusty so I plan on watching some video to help remind me of some of the techniques I use to practice and teach. Watching your braking exercises, we use to put up a short slow exit cone pattern at the end of the stop and the goal was to come to a complete stop while down shifting and not putting your feet down, then complete the exit pattern. Motor training days were always the best days of the job! Anyway, keep up the good work and stay safe.
Thank you for watching! Appreciate you stopping by! I’ve been on now for almost 10 and have very much enjoyed it. Poe you enjoy your new to you RT. Ours are 2015’s. Very happy with them.
Must be great riding in convey like that 😎
It is a lot of fun. Also challenging. We had 10 plus bikes all together. It’s a cool sight. Thank you for watching!
Bomber into! Thanks for sharing another training vid.
Thank you for watching! I’m pretty happy with the New Intro. It was fun to make.
I don't get tired watching your videos once and again. From Spain, congrats.
As a kid I wanted to grow up and be John Baker so this video was super cool for me 👍🏻
Thanks dude, you have an awesome job and that last fast lap you did was pretty sweet, you really “Ponched” it 😜
Thank you brother! I also dream of being as cool as John Baker! Not going to happen but a guy can dream. Maybe if I was on a KZ1000... hhmmm
@@Mclovingarage I knew you were one of the cool kids, cuz only us cool kids get the John Baker reference 👍🏻
My brother and I were 7-Mary-3 and 7-Mary-4 when we would ride our motorcycles together as kids back in the 80’s 😆 Good times!!
@@msims1250 that’s awesome! Great dreams and memories!
You really Ponched it! 😂🤣
Without a doubt my favorite motorcycle channel, much to learn and very well taught.
Thank you very much! I appreciate you watching!
I did the California CHP course on the old Kawasaki. I was too tall for the bike and gave it up for K-9 unit. being 6'9 makes it a little tough. My AT looks like a scooter on me. Enjoying your videos.
Thank you Sean! Ya you’re definitely a tall dude. Easy to get your feet to the ground but cramped on some bikes when riding I imagine. Thank you for watching!
Do you even need a dog being 6’9”? People just don’t give up?
I know they don’t make a bite suit long enough to cover everything so I am sure you don’t have to play decoy that much lol.
Ohhh the fond memories of the bruises. Love it when someone new always says the dog got through the suit. Nahhh your fine, he’s not through. Fass Fass Fass.
Another awesome video!! Exceptional training and formation riding, gotta love it! 👍
Thank you! It was such a nice day for training. Having access to a track is super helpful.
Fun video! Glad to see some Honda ST’s like mine tearing it up! 😁
The ST’s do very well. It’s a bummer Honda doesn’t make them anymore.
@@Mclovingarage yeah, we’re getting BMW’s when we run out of Honda’s from our last purchase.
love to watch you moto cops train you guys can ride. dident know that track was still there
It’s great to see you getting additional training to maintain and improve your skills. I like that braking practice from 40 and 60 mph, and need to find a good place to safely practice that. Nice video!
Thank you! The braking is super important. Shows how much farther it takes to stop with just 20mph more speed. They did some emergency braking in curves also but I did not capture that on camera this trip.
If you have a chance it’d be interesting to see some of the load out on the different bikes. Thanks for the great videos!
I hopefully will have a walk around video of my bike coming soon. Thank you for watching.
Awesome vids on this channel. Just subscribed. Respect n stay safe.. from England .U.K.
Really enjoyed that matey... stay well, stay safe.
Steve Mac.
Thank you! Appreciate it very much!
Hey Man, another great vid. 👍🏽
Thank you!
I’m still laughing that Critter said “You really Ponched it!” 🤣 You know I like the cop vids.. 👍🏽🇺🇸🏁
Are you a motor instructor? You’ve been riding long enough for it. If you are, you should do a video on what it takes to become a motor instructor.
Hey, thanks for the comment. I am not a motor instructor. I was working towards that but my rotation on motors was coming to an end. My agency was going to rotate me back to patrol which I had no interest in. I have since left law enforcement. I miss the bike, but I don’t miss the day to day grind of the job.
😎wow! so cool! wind into the face)))
Very nice training love it keep it up!
Thanks Brother!
Really like the new intro!
I watch countless hours of training videos and always hear either "outside, inside, outside" or "outside, middle, outside". I'm guessing this is more track based strategy? It seems outside, outside, inside may provide a better sightline and maintain a lower corner speed longer? If you could explain, I'm really curious. I want to be the safest rider I can be, not the fastest. (There is a time and place for everything). Fantastic video McLovin, thank you!
Thank you! The intro is fresh for 2021. It was time to update. As far as cornering lines we have been taught to stay outside until we can see through the curve then move inside which becomes essentially the outside for the next curve. It’s not the fastest way through a curve but it gives us room for obstacle avoidance and the best line of sight into the curve before committing. Hope that helps. Many school of thought on cornering that’s for sure.
@@Mclovingarage I'll try working on this as most of my riding is mountainous, along rivers and densely forested. Obstacles (branches, rocks, etc.) are frequent. Thanks!
@@Mclovingarage Well I'm not racing, so I'll take the safest line as best I can.
I really enjoy your officer training videos... a couple of questions for you. Why would officers ride side by side? It would seem to greatly diminish the ability to avoid an object or incident. Second, just out of curiosity, are students required to be experienced motorcycle riders, or do they intake even newbies?
Garth, we ride side by side for several reasons. One being easier communication via hand signals and speaking back and forth with each other. It makes the whole package of bikes shorter making it easier for us to get through traffic signals as a group without being cut off by red lights. Having the headlights of both bikes next to each other at the front of the package also helps makes us more visible and more 4 wheel car like as we move through traffic. It also keeps the package tight together helping prevent cars from cutting in between us on the freeway. It’s also part of tradition. Motor teams have been riding like that for a long time. Thanks for watching and commenting. Appreciate you watching my channel.
Just found your channel and subscribed, and thanks for what you do. Question, what's the stopping distance in the 40 and 60mph exercises? I practice a lot (not at those speeds!) and am just curious what is 'good' according to motor officer training.
Hey Todd, thank you for watching. The stop cones you see in the video were set up at 70 feet for 40 mph stops and 140 feet for the 60 mile per hour stops from the tall start braking cones.
Love these !
Thanks Tenny!
I see officer Vande Brake @ 2:56 ...
Officer Vande Brake was there. He is one of the instructors of the Motor School. He rides the crap out of a Honda ST1300. Impressive rider.
"uh" is not a word. Thanks for content.
Hey, thanks for the constructive criticism. Really appreciate it. I will strive to not be an unschooled Neanderthal from here on out.
@@Mclovingarage the teachable shall inherit the earth
@@Mclovingaragefunny, i am watching this again and have yet to notice the “uhs.”😊
Nice video's. Several of the motors have weather covers for the rifle. Who makes them?
Those were manufactured by a company in Eugene, OR called Eugene Canvas. Not sure if they are still making them but that’s who we used.
Any chance you can offer a riding clinic similar to motor school for civilians? You can charge a fee and make money. I think Motor Cop God Quinn Redeker did at one point in California. Closest that I have participated in has been Idaho's Chills & Thrills event put on by the local motor units where they invite the general public to ride their police patterns. You can view the footage on my CZcams.
I haven’t really looked into doing something like that. I worry about liability and insurance costs. It’s certainly a good idea but not sure it’s for me at this point. I’ll check out your channel though! Thanks for watching!
New intro even ...
Yessir! A little freshening up of the channel. :)
This is awesome, thanks. When you are on a high speed turn(over 30 mph) how much and for how long are you turning you head through the turn using slow, look, press and roll? Thanks.
This is a lawyer type answer, but “it depends” on the length of the curve and how long it takes to see the exit of the turn. I’m trying to look ahead as far as possible, looking for the exit, but also using my peripheral vision to scan for obstacles and potholes. Hope that helps a little bit. Thank you for watching!
@@Mclovingarage that does help. Looking for the exit and side scanning.
do you use the police roadcraft book and also I.P. S.G A. and last what make was the honda.
How does the ST1300 compare to the Beemers?
The ST is a nice machine. It sits lower than the BMW. It runs the patterns well and scoots on the track. I’m actually kinda sad Honda quit making it. That v4 is such a neat motor. I’d own one personally if I was looking for a sport touring machine. I’m a Honda guy deep down.
The Honda without the bags is so goofy looking. I hope he normally has them and just didn't bring them to the track.
They were just removed for training to avoid any damage. I agree, they do look strange without them.
Hello - is there sry schools that teachings the advance motorcycle? Thanks.
There are some trainers who teach more advanced motorcycle training. This school was specifically for law enforcement officers only. Sorry I can’t be more helpful. Thank you for watching!
Search youtube for RideLikeAPro
When watching American police riders it is always noticeable that you do not wear protective clothing while riding.
Why is that??
Take a look at the Dutch or German Police riders.
That’s a good question that I don’t know the answer too. It would definitely be safer to have protective gear on but it’s also warmer and less comfortable making it harder to wear. Thanks for watching.