Prusa MK4 - Unboxing, setup, and first print!
Vložit
- čas přidán 5. 04. 2023
- Ordered the Prusa MK4 when I found out it was available and it’s here already just eight days later! Since I’m so excited about it, let’s open it up, check it out, and get its first print going!
-----------------------------------------------
My Designs: cults3d.com/en/users/Superher...
-----------------------------------------------
Here's the stuff I use! (Affiliate links):
** Amazon Storefront: www.amazon.com/shop/superherodiy
** Filacube PLA 2 Filament: amzn.to/40OiIhg
** Prusa Replacement Parts: amzn.to/40QJjdr
** 3D-Printing Tools and Accessories: amzn.to/3Uig01f
-----------------------------------------------
Socials:
- TikTok: / superherodiy
- Facebook: / superherodiy
- Instagram: / superherodiy
-----------------------------------------------
The opinions expressed in this video are my own opinions based on my personal experiences. This is not a paid product advertisement, though I may recommend or dislike certain products! Again, the opinions shared here are based on my experience and preferences.
Some of the links provided are Amazon Affiliate Links, which provide SuperheroDIY a small fee for each purchase made using one of those links, which help support our channel and offerings. They don't cost you anything at all, so we really appreciate your support if you use them!
#prusa3d #prusa #3dprinting #3dprinter #unboxing - Jak na to + styl
The purge line is placed near the print because it doesn’t probe the whole bed anymore. So it it needs to be in an area that has been probed, to make sure it sticks to the bed.
Oh thank you so much for that! Makes sense. I hate it though it’s much tougher to remove there. I might change the gcode to make it easier to remove
OK so I changed the GCODE a bit, now I'm gonna change it back. I think their way makes a lot more sense actually. I'll just need to get used to it.
a great and whole video of its full process, being satisfied to watch
Wow, the Z axis *flies*!
I've had my MK2.5S for 6 years now (originally a MK2 obviously), and I'll finally be replacing it as soon as the MK4 kit becomes available in hopefully the next few days. I'm so excited to not have to mess with the PINDA z axis calibration or mesh bed leveling anymore.
Nice video-thanks!! If I may ask what are you using under your cement block to isolate it from your bench? Also it would be nice if you made a video about your hot box setup that you have on top of your printers with brand, brackets, etc... Gerry
Man I definitely want to get this printer, especially for those QoL features.
Agreed!!
Thanks for the video!
You bet!
Very nice. I'm gonna order one, with enclosure for making abs. I also plan to get an assortment of nozzles sizes in the new e3d obxidian v6 (E3Ds hardest nozzle with antistick) with the nextruder v6 adapter. I'll also try to find a good high flow nozzle that works with nextruder. Very excited but it will probably take till August or September before Prusa can fulfill my order. 😊
Hi, I don't know if you figured out that nozzle yet or not that came with the lube, but it is for lubing linear bearings.
Hi I did not figure that out yet!! OHHHHH! I had no idea and I’ve never taken off and lubed any of mine! Hmm maybe I should
i love the multi color printed parts on the screen and extruder
Me too but I don’t understand how they did it
@@SuperheroDIY i think it's screen printed on, not mmu
@@SuperheroDIY I read that it is UV-printed onto the part.
Thanks for sharing.
What are you using for foam under those concrete pavers?
I use exercise mats on the bottom, then foam cushioning to separate that from the paver. That foam is just a really huge roll of foam I go on Amazon for like $50 that I keep cutting into whenever I get a new printer.
If you have problems with the PEI smooth sheet, and can't get pla to stick even after using acetone, try some 400-1000 grit, or equivalent ( the hard scouring side of a dry dish sponge also works) and resurface lightly. Clean with IPA after.
Worked a treat for me.
Yep, that’s what often works for me! Also washing with hot water and dish soap. I actually just don’t like the smooth sheet that much - much prefer the texture for the bottom of my prints!
Looks great, can't wait for my kit to arrive (in June, ugh)
Hey I know you
Once my Mini+ gives out I’ll get this or it’s descendant and possibly pair it with OctoPrint+OctoPi.
I think those nozzles for the grease allow you to stick them into the linear bearing and force grease into it instead of the finger/rod insert method
Also, the beep was my biggest gripe with the mk3s+. It’s deafening
Thanks for that! I’ve never removed mine to grease em but that makes sense!! Yep it’s either ridiculously loud noise or nothing on the MK3S+, MK4 is much much more reasonable.
@@SuperheroDIY I figured out that a lot of the noise was coming from the part cooling fan. It had sucked up a years worth of stringing and would squeal at 100% cooling. Managed to get it all out with a brass brush and it’s quiet again
Oh yep yep. I use the compressed air to get that stuff out every so often
Never owned a Prusa but have one on order which I might see by June :(. You said that you print in PETG usually. Would like to see a video on how to print PETG on the MK4 as I have never printed it and it would be a help to others I believe. From slicer settings to actual print ;). Gerry
There isn‘t much to do. Just choose the PETG profile in your slicer. On the printer‘s side you have to be aware, that PETG sticks too much on the unstructured sheet. Use a structured one or - in case you don’t have one - a glue stick.
I use PETG only, if I have to because of higher energy consumption.
Good Video. How would you compare the noise Level of the Mk4 to the Prusa Mini? I have a Mini and not sure to get the Mk4 if it is much louder?
I’d say it’s about the same actually! Although I need to replace the linear bearings on both of my minis as that’s where all the noise is coming from!
@@SuperheroDIY thanks that sounds good 👌
Nice video. ❤
I have the mk3s+, X1CC, ender. Your video is great intro into the Mk4. It's been so long since I've used it that I blocked out all of the stuff needed to print from scratch.
I have a couple of years on the mk3 and ender but retired them both since Aug 2022 for the X1C(2200hrs+ printed). There is a ton of QOL features that come standard that the mk4 just doesnt have. I was curious if it was worth upgrading the mk3 to a 3.5, 3.9 or full 4 but as of right now there isnt enough different to warrant the upgrade. The speed increase firmware is still in beta and the screen isn't touch. I cant stand the rotary knob.
Is the first nozzle given hardened?
You mentioned that particular model takes about 32 min on .6mm and 1 hr on .4mm with the mk3 and 33 min on .4mm on the mk4. Have you tried any longer or taller prints and compared times? Is it a roughly 2x difference consistently?
How fast have you been able to go with quality. I know the mk line wasnt made for speed per se but its good to know if it can do it.
Have you tried prusa connect(cloud) or prusa link(lan/local) printing yet?
Are the print times accurate in the latest prusa slicer. ( if they are I can check speeds for the mk4 there)
Hey -- agree with the points about the speed increase being in beta, that's very sad, and I expect the screen to be touch. Still, my experience with touchscreens on printers has been .. meh. Thinking how bad the Creality CR-10S Pro V2 and Artillery Sidewinder X2s screens are.
I haven't yet tried any bigger or taller prints, but certainly will! I would guess that any speed and quality differences will be exacerbated with size and time since it's still a bedslinger!
I did try Prusa Connect AND Prusa Link -- both are VERY beta beta beta and not ready for primetime. Prusa Connect has some serious limitations and issues, mainly with file handling and limited camera support. Prusa Link just sucked altogether and is wholly unreliable. I would prefer Prusa Link for security, but wow it's just not good ... yet.
As far as I can tell, print times in PrusaSlicer are close, but not exactly accurate (estimates are a little shorter than actual). But not bad at all and WAY better than it was back in the day using something like Simplify3D!
@@SuperheroDIY I also prefer non-touch displays on 3d printers, and i think these days its still less and less important when there are cloud/web UI's or klipper etc. available from which you can operate the printer, so you can use any device with display (smartphone, tablet, laptop).
@@SuperheroDIY Thank you for your very detailed response. I updated my Prusa Slicer and have been playing around with settings.
I may wait a bit and see how the features pan out. I didn't want to go back to sneaker-net to print. 😅
I must have cursed hands because the dial is the bane of my existence.
The screen on MK4 is actually a touchscreen, just the touch functionality is not yet implemented/supported in the current version of the firmware. So, maybe they will enable the touch functionality in the next firmware versions, as the touch interface is there and is connected to the main board.
@ if the touch isn't enabled then it is effectively just a screen. I haven't seen any information on the main website that mentioned it being a touchscreen or that they will enable a touch screen., I am wondering where people are hearing that. Because I've heard some CZcamsrs talk about it but no one can give a source
I want one it can replace my FLSUN super racer there is a random quality machine. Sometimes it make me impressed and sometimes it just bad.
Hear that, that’s annoying!!
@8:34 nozzle based probing is the future. cnc machining world has used it for decades. it's about time 3d printers got on board with this well developed technology.
I’d never seen it before Bambus and I do love it!!!
Bro I just found out that you get the haribo gold bears with the prusa’s and because of this I may save up to buy a Prusa instead of just getting a svo6 lol
Hahah yes it’s a huge benefit! And you even get em when preassembled!!
I know right, I totally wouldn't get 4 sv06's and have change left over for a few kilos of gummies.... At least here in Aus.
And I just go to the supermarket and buy them. 🤷🏻♂️
Cool🙂
Status lights:
Blue- Printing and everything is normal.
Yellow- warning print has stopped (eg: ran out filament, paused to change filament color, etc.) can resume printing.
Red- unrecoverable error and printing cannot resume.
Green- print finished awaiting your interaction.
Gerry
nice
Thanks!
Can you compare it to the bamboo lab you have it the background? Is it print better quality?
I feel so inadequate cause my MK2S is still running great....I have no excuse to upgrade😭
I think that’s the story here though! I mean how old is that printer and it’s still going strong!?!
@@SuperheroDIYI'm embarrassed to say but it's 6 years old. At the beginning of the pandemic I was involved in an effort to print a few thousand face shields for first responders. We got the job done but it completely fried the hot end, PEI sheet, thermistor, 2 fans and a stepper motor so I rebuilt the printer with a bunch of new parts and it's still doing great. If the heatbed fails (which I expect it will sooner than later) I'll be adding an MK4 to the cart😁
@@SuperheroDIY Yup, if you bought a MK2, it's six years old now. And many of us still have them going strong, or updated to MK2.5 etc. In my opinion that's worth some loyalty to Prusa, even if their price is a little higher, or it doesn't have the latest hype features. If that makes me a fanboy, I'm OK with that.
Absolutely agree.
@@swissfreek I agree....when you show prints to other folks who use Creality printers all they can do is stare in wonder and awe because they're accustomed to substandard output.
It is "Prusha" ;-) But don't worry, we know what you are talking about ..
Hahahah thanks!
I am printing at my home, which is in the forest of Pennsylvania, so there is no internet service or Starlink.
I dont see whole alot of difference compared to mk3s which was released 4 years ago. 4 years... It looks like a desperate move by prusa to combat bambulab competition. I mean they could have come up with something great in 4 years of development but even P1P looks better than this for the half price.
Definitely a move to counter the BambuLab printers! Hence rushing it out ahead of the XL. But the huge improvement in bed, leveling, stiffer frame, Nextruder, LCD screen and interface, enhanced motors, and Wi-Fi and ethernet make it a pretty big step up in terms of usability.
The P1P is $100 less... it also is closed ecosystem on almost every major system. You can't even use common nozzles with them. Not sure I would consider it given the proven reliability of the Prusa.
@@SuperheroDIY I get it, it is certainly an improvement but It is somehow underwhelming especially at this price. I'm sure it is a great printer but their price point is incredibly wrong in my opinion.
P1P is build like a tank, faster, bigger print bed and prints amazing for the less money and not to mention bambulabs replacement parts&optional parts are cheaper than prusa's.
As an owner of both prusa and bambulab printers my only criticism for bambulab would be how loud it is other than that It's yet to fail my expectations after owning prusa for years.
@@2011dtish21 I’ve been printing endlessly on my X1C with zero issues so far. It just works and it’s fast!
@@2011dtish21 It's my bad not a half price but its not $100 either. P1P is assembled so $700 vs MK4 $1100. For $400 I can buy sh*t load of replacement parts that its ever going to break in P1P in its whole life time.
I also dont get whats wrong with closed system as long as it is working, i dont see the problem here. In return you get a nicely working slicer + octoprint setup in one application + phone application.
Proven reliability is a vague statement if i search prusa failure in youtube a bunch of videos with issues come up. What do you actually mean by reliability? Because according to those feedbacks its not reliable at all.
Hard to follow instructions (just that nozzle tapping). At least in the video it was pretty clear what to do, but maybe he didn't look at what he was filming.
No I definitely didn’t look at it while I was filming. Didn’t see there was a countdown.
I might sound like Bambu fanboy but.. No tapping on my X1C + AMS , no manual feeding, I saw that you manually took of the purged filament - this is also something I didn't needed to even think about.
Out of the box put filament in the AMS and it just did the benchy.
Prusa might be workhorse but the ease of use compared to X1C is just different.
The only thing I don't like in X1C is glue and sound.
It might have their own custom parts / software but.. So does the iPhone or samsung.
I won't comment on support as I didn't had to use it.
Ok… but did you get the haribo gold bears with your printer
@@pandaiscool9552 nah I had to steal from my kids ;)
I hear that, I have both Bambus as well. Bad news is that my X1C has had three problems so far, none of which Bambu has been ANY help on. If I didn’t know about 3D printers and how they work already, I’d have been out of luck! Sure there is an ease of use component, but when you are printing 20+ hrs/day for years, you need reliability as well. Bambu doesn’t have that just yet.
@@SuperheroDIY what were the problems? X1C is my first printer and I'm still constantly learning.
Since you are using your printers so extensively - did you maybe shared your filament/printer profiles anywhere? I'm still dialing in. Started using eSun PETG yesterday and custom profile I have is relatively slow.
I wonder if there is anything I can tune more.
@@muray82 I haven't shared my profiles anywhere because I've found that really the profiles in PrusaSlicer are pretty dang close, and then you just have to calibrate for your print and your material, but others can't really do that well for you in a lot of cases!
Tough sell with competitors like bambu labs
Depends if you still want to use the printer after you've gone through 1 set of bearings. As we know with MK3S, its a non-issue and they can even be replaced during standard annual services if required. But with Bambu, those bearings are glued in in many cases and you might be looking at a return to Bambu in order to get them replaced. True also is the lubing and packing of the bearings is not possible since you can't get to them.
Not sure if anybody has experienced this yet as nobody has put the printer through one set of bearings?
"As we know with MK3S, its a non-issue and they can even be replaced during standard annual services if required"
Yeah can you imagine the folks who bought a Mk3(2017), upgraded to a mk3s+(2021) then upgraded to an mk4.(2023) After 8 years of upgrades they will have ........ cartesian tech. 🤔
You know fixing old tech isn't the badge of honor some folks thinks it is. You can save your money and get better tech and features especially if you don't want to "Ship of Theseus" a bed slinger for years.
@@ChrizRockster You seriously underestimate the aftermarket community. When bearings start failing I can assure you someone will design new mounts, that we will print, and pop our new bearings in
If man built it, man can fix it
@@No0o0o0o0o0 We should all be united on right-to-repair, I think your throw-away-replace attitude goes against the whole culture of DIY and sustainability on the whole.
@@MetapharsicalAvoiding the "Ship of Theseus" mentality is a great example of why keeping old tech alive is not beneficial.
For example take fast Core XY printer vs cartesian. There are competitors that are 3-4x the speed. That means faster prints, less electricity used and more efficiency for the time. There will always instances when new tech surpasses old tech. You can spend good money after bad and still not equal buying new, which is wasteful. You may not value your time but some of us do.
Would you be fine with a10yr cell phone.? If you could keep an iphone 5 alive or samsung note 3 would it be a good experience? What about missing network advancements and being stuck on 3g or 2g edge networks. Low resolution or small screens? What about slower wifi or OS security issues?
Sure it's great you can fix a thing but we arent talking about incremental upgrades we are talking about paradigm shifts. I've personally experienced the never-ending DIY cycle of other printers. I put hundreds $$$ in upgrades, features, repairs and it will NEVER reach the new stuff. If I rebuild it from scratch, Added klipper, octoprint, raspi, camera, enclosure, nozzle, direct drive, inductive probe, new frame, bed, linear rails, and spend countless hours sourcing parts, tweaking, configuring, modifying did I really come out ahead when I can buy an off the shelf product that functionally has all of that out of the box?
not for the price, sorry, specialy that in czech people are not get good salary, it is east europe where 1000$ is good salary :(
Sorry, Prusa is dead.
New year, New futurist and Bambu lab, creality K1.
😂😂
It's madness to buy prusa in the word where p1p exists.
Nuh uh! The fact that I’ve had MK3S’s running for years and years and they are still good means a lot. Any other brand of printer I’ve had started strong then slowly deteriorated until it was useless …. Although I currently do love my P1P and X1C
Good luck replacing those bearings and good luck if something happens to their cloud service. You lose function you paid for.
@@ChrizRockster even if I throw away all electronics and install orange with klipper it will be way better than prusa
@@ChrizRockster you don't need to use the cloud service. You can print in the exact same way you print with your old clunky prusa: with a SD card. You don't even need to use their software. There is an open source fork of the bambu slicer now. The bearings are standard btw
overpriced
Gotta be a fool to buy this over the bambu lol
Have fun wiping that purge filament off the nozzle
Poop shoot all the way
Haha you notice I have two Bambus over there, right?
Was hesitant buying P1P for the first printer due to its loudness, and then MK4 came. Awesome hearing that its both faster than MK3 and quieter. While its price is tough, at least I'll support EU economy and open-source design rather than communist regime. Sad that we can't even order DIY variant yet and I'm afraid that queue might be awfully long.
My brother in Christ. Do you know much crap you own right now that supports china lmao.
@JJ Surely you can understand his point without bringing up all of those bad examples or without following the politics. Always buying the cheapest Chinese alternative is not good for anyone but them.
@@Gepstra Only Bambu isn't the cheapest Chinese alternative, only A Chinese alternative.
@@Smokinjoewhite and very, very closed source.
EU it's also becoming communists but you don't see it yet
You'd have to be massive fanboy to buy an MK4 over qidi's new heated chamber 20k accel corexy or a P1P. They're both cheaper and significantly better in every single way except repairability. Prusa screwed up majorly with this release and price point.
Except repairability? Yeah I don’t like that part. If something goes wrong, able to fix the printer quickly.
@SuperheroDIY By the time either of those printers need repairing they will have pumped out 5 times the parts the MK4 could in the same amount of time. And most things that will need repairing are easily repairable, just not everything. To me, that is a very very small down side for the massive advantages you gain.
And with the P1P you can just about buy 2 of them for the price of the MK4.
Which printer will be more stressed and have greater wear and tear? Which one was designed to be particularly easy to maintain? and which one with the aim of assembling the printer on a production line as quickly as possible in order to achieve a reasonable price?
Competition stimulates business and I have nothing against Bambulab.
But against the Bambulab fanboys who subliminally insinuate in every Prusa video that people who buy another Prusa in 2023 are stupid.
@@herr_rossi69 I don't own a Qidi (which I also mentioned, your anti-Bambu Prusa fanboysim is showing), or a Bambu. What I said is factual.
I understand the arguments of those who buy one of the new Core printers.
What these people don't understand is that in 2023 there are still good reasons not to do it.
And I wouldn't think of forcing my opinion on someone in a review about Qidi or Bambu.
It's just annoying.
I refuse to buy Prusa because Joseph Prusa is a narcissist that has to have his name and likeness on everything and it's ridiculous.
But it’s his company! Can’t he do whatever he wants? The company’s name is his name, so his products should have his name on them too, right?