This is so important to understand if you want to heal from chronic symptoms using a mind-body approach. Reach out if you need help to heal. You can find me at: www.thepainpt.com
Best way to get to the root of any pain or discomfort in the body is, while you're experiencing pain, ask yourself "How does this make me feel?", put an emotional word on it. Once you come up with the emotion, anger, frustration, etc. realize that emotion was there long before the pain showed up. That emotion had to get loud enough to get your attention. Pain is just an "Indicator" of how you've been feeling.
@@Chelsea-mz4dn that's awesome. I actually learned that technique listening to Abraham-Hicks. Look for some of their videos on illness. very insightful
Wow. I realised that I don't feel anything towards my symptom. That is the problem, I'm not allowing myself to feel this emotion. Thank you for your insight.
Thank you! I was a Sarno patient in 1986. Went to the two lectures and spoke with him on the phone many times. I have helped many people over the years, turning them on to Dr. Sarno. But now, all these years later, I am battling pain again. I got side lined and went to a neurologist. The only benefit was getting an mri to establish no major issues. I am trying to get back to a Sarno frame of mind. I know this is TMS. My home was flooded from hurricane Irma and, for the past year, has caused tremendous stress and financial hard aches. Your video is my start to conquer this distraction of TMS. I feel watching your video is like a renewing of my tms vows. Thanks again. Sorry for the long post, but I needed to get it out there to start the ball rolling again.
Hi- read his book again. You got this !! I saw Dr. Sarai’s colleague and of course with these kinds of emotions I would imaging the brain is trying to trick you again. Please be proactive and read Dr. Sarno’s book again. You can yell at your brain. I believe in you!! ❤️
anybody here suffering of myofascial pain sindrome? pain in the muscles of the neck and shoulder (contracture for many years) and strong nsuralgia / migraines daily? the pain going from the muscles to the left side of the head. my head and cervical MRIs seem to be fine except of a scoliosis but i suspect i might be a candidate for the TMS therapy formulated by John E Sarno. I wish you all success in healing. Cristi from Romania.
Breathing exercise done in a quiet room, restful-most-position (ideally lying down) briefly (5 - 10 min) just a couple times a day "feeds" the body oxygen boosting/enhancing all circulatory systems of the body and fights FM. Great video, good job! Personal behavioral therapy to discover repressed symptoms opens up the body the chance to also heal. Big changes for the body can be achieved without meds. My opinions here. THX 🌄
I'm reading Dr. Sarno's book, The Divided Mind. It was recommended to me recently following a period of stress / burnout. I have experienced lower back pain for the last 15 years and no medical diagnosis. I'm really interested in the TMS theory and now working on this to help relieve my symptoms by addressing the source of the issue.
@@kikita278 I found it educational and started me on a new journey to address the TMS as described by Dr Sarno. I found a therapist educated in TMS and having one session per month with homework and using the Curable app too. Still only on week 2 so very early days! Feeling optimistic though 😊
Just subscribed . I have an anxiety disorder and ptsd and chronic back pain . Looking at Dr Sarno"s material and feling like its a good direction. Thank you .
Shirley from Alberta…When I saw the reference to Dr Sarno’s 12 steps, I was ‘in’! I read one of his books months ago and became painfree! So grateful for the 12 steps without having to read the whole rational! You did a great job of delivering this! Thank you!!! A surgery and injury created pain again in the ‘old areas’. My experience is pain triggers pain…back to eliminating the part not about ‘healing’…💕💜👩🏼🙏
I am also wondering about this. I guess we should not be afraid to go outside and walk a little bit every day if we’re not completely floored. We shouldn’t push ourselves on long walks, but a short walk should be in the cards.
@@breatheslow356 Thanks - I will have look at it. There are many Retraining Programs, I had tried Gupta long ago and informed myself about others, but one needs energy, also mentally to do the work and stay positive. At a certain point a always lost my motivation, even though I know how important it is. I suppose many of us needs trauma therapy first to not to get stuck in old conditionings/programmings which are mainly in the subconsious. Did you heal with the programe?
Very helpful video. I now know that my issue is biological/physical, as when I try to overcome my issue it gets much worse. So it's very important to rule out biological.
I have an incomplete spinal cord injury and I’ve dealt with chronic pain and neuropathy since my injury in 2008. However, since the start of the pandemic, I developed acute health anxiety, panic attacks, and now my back pain has gone off the charts since April 2023. I’m caught in a nasty cycle of pain, anxiety, and depression… which only worsens the pain, then anxiety, and brings more depression. I’m looking at getting a therapist that deals with chronic pain. I’m certain my SCI is causing a certain level of neuropathy, but I also believe that my anxiety and depression are making it worse.
Im not scared of movement. I have other kinds of fear that flare me up. Sometimes it just a little thing like when I wake up anxious. I just have to get up and go do life. It can be tough but its the only thing that works for me. When i realized i wasn’t broken I just started back 100 on everything I used to do. Running and biking was big . I thought i would never do them again because of the pain. But I did . I had to be the boss not my limbic system
Thanks, very useful. Had surgery on my left foot a year ago, surgeon told me three was nothing structurally wrong with it. Been through the avoidance/catastrophising thing though still a bit intimidated at facing pain square on.
Great video. I've been following Sarno's steps for years; they cured me of terrible debilitating bouts of chronic back pain 10 years ago. However it seems chronic pain is something I have to live with. Last year it was a combination of right shoulder pain and left inner knee pain. I kept working out despite the pain, working around the pain, so to speak, and eventually the shoulder pain vanished. The knee pain took longer, but then switched sides! So even though I understand and believe that these are classic TMS symptoms, I never seem to be able to fully get rid of them. I practice karate several times a week. The pain subsides as the workout progresses. But it would be amazing to leave the pain behind. I can easily see how I suppress/contain emotions, especially anger, no mystery there. But still my brain resists letting me off the hook, pain-wise. So it seems like I could go further in treating my TMS, just don't know how.
Thanks for sharing. Yes it’s the emotions that category you want to learn to spend more time on it’s one of the missing pieces people seem to avoid- hence the repression suppression many of us do :)
I’ve read the divided mind… and. Am working hard on recovery. I have TMS in both elbows. The left elbow for two years (as confirmed by two steroid shots, and a clean MRI) and my right for about 6 months. I’ve seen a reduction in pain in my dominate arm but my left side has gotten worse. Confident I’ll get there but it’s tough! These videos help.
I get down on the ground work in garden... I sweep the driveway...Iclean house...I grocery shop...ect...I live alone...I have a commercial kitchen in my basement so I go up &downstairs all day I make a few decorated cakes ( I've been doing cakes for 40 years) but have a difficult time walking because I have groin pain * sciatic...& if I walk too fast I would " buckle" over & fall! I do yoga six days a week...
Im on the path to finding a mental health therapist. I have alot of repressed emotions over my sons suicide. So many other details make this issue a severe case of CPTSD. I just got a new doctor, so the next step is therapy. I have been in chronic pain for about a year, and I know that it's TMS, not fybromyalgia.
Your brain is there to tell you there is a problem! I broke and destroyed my ankle 18 yes ago. I was told after they put it back together best they could, I was healed and the pain I had was all in my head. I lived and worked in severe pain 18 yes, because healthcare told NE its all in my head. I recently had ankle replacement surgery, and was told by the surgeon the ankle should have been done decades ago! Yes of Dr apts complaining and being told my pain was wrong and nothing was wrong! Listen to patients most know their bodies and feeling better than you!
I have CFS, and am having difficulty with increasing what I do. I've been working at what has felt like my limit for as long as I can remember due to family commitments etc. When I do even a little bit more of cognitive tasks, I can barely function for the next couple of days. I filled in a small part of a form this week and that evening at family teatime I couldn't even form sentences. I'm not sure how to handle this.
Hi Katherine I know it can be tough but gradual consistent exposure is the answer that’s what the research shows. The key is mentally reinterpreting the symptoms as benign and not dangerous. This is changing your brain on two levels- mental communication to the limbic brain and physical communication from the body to the brain when you gradually but steadily keep doing a little more each week. It’s not easy but cfs influences the same parts of the brain as chronic pain- that limbic brain. It’s become over sensitized and over reacts to very normal things. You have to reteach it whats normal again. Also deal with emotions. Not sure of your history feel free to reach out for initial consultation if you want to dive in deeper to put the pieces together. Take care!
Brilliantly explained. Love the experiential anecdotes. Would love to see a specific vid for recurrence, perhaps on low back w mri findings that cause apprehensiveness.
My medical brackground is radiation oncolgy .Are there any scientific double blinds studies that demonstrate your conjecture on pain is true? In having chronic pain for 45 years and having studied the neuroscience of pain this this theory feels valid for only a VERY tiny percent of people with chonic pain. Thank's kindly
Thanks for checking in. Yes there are lots of brain MRI studies showing that the circuits in the brain move to emotional circuits in chronic pain. In fact Dr. Apkarian at Northwestern has done a bunch of brain studies which predict with 85% accuracy who develops chronic pain based on connections in the brain. I’ll try to link a couple here it’s also newer one that could predict chronic low back pain from healthy controls at 91% accuracy based on the functional connectivity of some centers in the brain. When you combine that information with with Dr. Sarno was saying years ago a lot of chronic pain is due to the central nervous system and subsequent autonomic nervous system dysfunction. Obviously not all chronic pain some severe joint changes can absolutely cause pain for example. Just need to get a good history of the patient looking at their whole life not just the physical side of things to put the picture together. Take care! pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23823463/ pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31107712/ www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/10/15/chronic-pain-brain-plasticity/
Thankyou.. I'm trying so hard with gym ' but then that's when the flares start .. I'm going to get more aggressive....... I need my life back. I'm confused if it muscle strain at some point.. as its one spot.. ughh amd it's 2000 times words after my favorite activities.. I'm listening to this x12 today
I am a doctor with my own chronic pain. The division between physical and emotional is not as neat as this, especially in older people. Untangling the ( genuine) physical causes of pain from the ( genuinely) emotional causes is complicated It would take the TMS work to a whole new level by addressing this dilemma
Listen to his audio book. He specifically states that ones who don't believe mind body connection, this won't work. Sounds like you're trying to find flaws in this.
Hi I've had a stroke and I have burning pain in the face arm on the side of my stroke. It comes and goes. I believe it's TMS can you tell me what you think. I had a mir on my brain I still have the damage in my cerebellum from my stroke so I'm not sure.
All makes sense and very helpful, thanks. But what about when depression is also present? The 12 reminders tend to be much harder when also faced with a depression (in my case I believe also "conditioned"). Do we separate the pain from the depression, or integrate? Perhaps "think psychologically" is the key reminder but to me it does imply additional resourcing (eg CBT, mindfulness etc.) as it feels like a double-whammy.
Hi 2 years ago my neck started twisting and pulling . I have always had neck and back problems for the past 30 years. Doctors diagnosed me with Cervical Dystonia. Can it be TMS? Thank you for your help
Thanks for sharing. Wondering though, how this can be adopted when in the condition Myaligic Encephalomyelitis, as ME is a condition due to mitochondrial dysfunction, i.e. mitochondrial shutdown? If you don't have the energy to do something you like/must do, how does it work to persuade the brain to go on, considering post extertional malaise?
I read Sarno years ago. I have severe lower back pain alternating with groin pain. Also severe arthritis in hips. Had one replaced as it was thought pain from that. Now the pain is particularly horrid on waking but lasts all day. Was told it was sacroiliitis. Does that come under TMS? I want so much to believe i can overcome with TMS knowledge but the pain gets worse. I have been very anxiety ridden during pandemic and because of pain. Any lose sacroiliitis thru TMS?
I have mild to moderate Degenerate disc In my back. Your saying just push through the pain? I mean it has subsided drastically and I feel I can run and return to my daily activities but the pain only started happening 4 months ago. I hear the disc will reharden just needs time. So I've been taking it easy and not pushing myself to the limits like before. I'm definitely not afraid, I'm ready heck I was running right after it happened. I had to Force myself to stop. I'm just strengthening my core now and goin on lots of walks. I'm ready just taking it slow. I'm ready just trying to give my body rest.
Yes your pain is not chronic. If you hurt yourself with an injury give it some time and gradually return to activities. Not all pain is TMS and chronic. Makes sense what you are doing
I having disc bulge mri says spina bifida but i completed physical exam for police remebered sarno then ihave ocd i think tms there whether i can go for training please rply me
Thanks for helping us, Jim. I have a question. I've been having pain in my left scapular, and a scraping feeling, esp. when I move the arm from side to side Doing some research, it looks like I have winging scapula. The scapula sticks out; my right arm is longer than the left arm; and my left shoulder is lower than the right shoulder. Do you think that this is a form of TMS too? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Yes this could easily be a ‘normal abnormality’ many people have one bigger foot a longer arm etc. the history is the most important as to how the symptoms started. Many many people had discrepancies side to side with no issues
I'm not sure if it's tms I have but for years I keep coming down with flu like symptoms every week, I'm always feeling unwell and in the last year I have started getting aches and high fatigue , docs want to label it as fibromyalgia. I'm 37 and don't have much of a life , I want to work and do normal stuff. Is there tms practitioners in the UK? Have you any more useful videos I could watch pls I really want to start helping myself, i can't afford to pay for any help so I'm hoping I will find stuff on CZcams. Loved the video thankyou
SIRPA is in the UK they are great. I am a SIRPA certified practitioner myself. They have an online program you could look at for more info. Lots of other resources with TMS books out there best of luck you can get better!
But what if your brain produces high blood pressure because of the emotional stress which lead to a heart attack? I dont know if it is so harmless. Seen in the latest succes story video of Dan Buglio it can also influence the thyroid system and other hormones. How do I place this?
Yes good point stress can place stress on any area of the body. So if underlying emotional stress is the cause then we need to get the system to relax which is not worrying, catastrophizing, exercising and working with emotions. The ‘harmless’ Sarno mentions means no deep structural cause and it’s reversible.
I’m interested in how you diagnose someone? I’d like to talk with you. I have very legitimate issues but others that could be TMS, not sure how do differentiate
How is it mild oxygen deprivation (and of what part of the body) when the finger pulse monitors show good oxygen levels? Can you please explain what you mean by mild oxygen deprivation? Thanks
it is my case and I want to clarify for myself. I am powerlifter and I had injured my back when I tried to lift heavy ( at the right time I left) . so how can I tell to me and my brain it is TMS and it is not real injury!!! as a mattet of fact, isn’t it?
Need to go through your history to put the pieces together- things like how long been since injury, what did you do, psychosocial factors like anxiety, catastrophizing, hypervigilance, stress, how you deal with emotions, and past history including adverse childhood events (aces). Reach out if you want to do a consultation take care
I read Sarno's book over a decade ago and at the end he excluded EDS (a genetic connective tissue disorder I am sure you are familiar with). I am curious if the thinking or research has changed on this over the years. Thank you for this summary and outreach.
There is some research coming out the show that there is a autonomic nervous system component and brain and stress component to EDS. Specifically that anxiety is very highly linked with EDS.
@@thepainpt Thank you. Look forward to hearing what's around the corner. Been practicing mind body healing for years; it's definitely been supportive as has addressing stressors. Thank you for your work, care and connection.
Pretty sure you are a charlatan. Telling people with chronic pain to exercise themselves like they don’t have pain. But they DO have pain and forcing yourself to experience even higher volumes of pain and then be told that if you don’t do it “oh well” which is what it sounds like Dr Sarno is saying. This is what all you people who take advantage of people with health issues do. You blame the patient. Living with high levels of pain is HELL. You have NO idea.
@@simonebye6771 you must not have looked at all the DNRS testimonies. There are 1000’s of people that are out of chronic pain, I’d really look into the science of it. Thought by thought healing is a good one
I find this confusing I'm afraid. There is no movement that I avoid, I do yoga and Tai Qi and I'm a stay at home dad of two children, one of whom is six years old, so pretty full on. However, at various times during the day the pain becomes so intense that harmless or not, I simply have no choice but to rest until it subsidies. How am I to break this cycle? Many thanks. 🙏
I don’t know your story Jeremy but just the little bit you shared it’s possible the children are triggering emotions in you that are not being expressed and this is creating pain. Seems to make sense especially if you’re very active and can do things on a physical level. I’ve seen it many times before with other patients where the stresses of raising children trigger symptoms. Be happy to go deeper into your history if you want to set up a consultation. Take care!
It really depends and is individual to each person. Generally speaking if you have mild to moderate arthritis many people have that severe arthritic changes are related to some pain
I don't know very much about Dr. Sarno's work, but have been curious. Currently I have pain in my cervical area - MRI confirms a herniated disc there. Also, compression fracture in the thoracic area, which led to diagnosis of osteoporosis. I've wondered whether periodic flare ups in pain are related to emotional causes, or if perhaps I'm not the audience he was writing to, since there is actual damage in these areas.
What if these feelings of abandonment, loneliness, fear…have been going on for years and seem to have no end? Very dark, very depressing. How does that feel like an injury that heals when it never does?
You can acknowledge those feelings but you don’t need to become those feelings. If you’re aware of them you’re separated from them. acknowledge them but also have the intention of letting them go
@@thepainpt I’m doing the somatic tracking, meditations and journaling. Most of my otter symptoms have subsided but the chest pressure and shortness of breath just isn’t shifting. Any additional advice will be much appreciated
The Book is called "Healing Back Pain" by Dr Sarno. I was amazed at how my back pain went away after I read the book. Actually before I even finished the book!
Are you with Lin Health? They ripped me off sir. I can't handle the pain and they made it worse. I joined the program and Lin health took out the 400 dollars but me no product making me feel more pain from people that I trusted to help me. 😢
Dr Sarno wrote a book called, "Healing Back Pain". It's his name he created for the syndrome. "TMS is a condition in which unconscious emotional issues (primarily rage, though other practitioners include other subconscious emotional issues such as anxiety, past trauma, and fear) initiate a process that causes physical pain and other symptoms."
@@andreaama9254 Even if there were no solid proof it would make a lot of sense. We do feel different when experiencing pain and if we are feeling different at certain times we can generate certain physical conditions.
I went through this everything this guy says is the TRUTH. You will overcome this. Sarno should have gotten a Nobel prize.
Best way to get to the root of any pain or discomfort in the body is, while you're experiencing pain, ask yourself "How does this make me feel?", put an emotional word on it. Once you come up with the emotion, anger, frustration, etc. realize that emotion was there long before the pain showed up. That emotion had to get loud enough to get your attention. Pain is just an "Indicator" of how you've been feeling.
Never thought of it like that. Thank you so much. Frustration in my case I just realized.
Wow, that’s the quickest I’ve ever been able to figure it out. In fact think what I came up with was the root of my whole illness ❤
Wow I have never thought of it like that, but guilt,anger, fear, sadness, ❤️
@@Chelsea-mz4dn that's awesome. I actually learned that technique listening to Abraham-Hicks. Look for some of their videos on illness. very insightful
Wow. I realised that I don't feel anything towards my symptom. That is the problem, I'm not allowing myself to feel this emotion. Thank you for your insight.
Thank you! I was a Sarno patient in 1986. Went to the two lectures and spoke with him on the phone many times. I have helped many people over the years, turning them on to Dr. Sarno. But now, all these years later, I am battling pain again. I got side lined and went to a neurologist. The only benefit was getting an mri to establish no major issues. I am trying to get back to a Sarno frame of mind. I know this is TMS. My home was flooded from hurricane Irma and, for the past year, has caused tremendous stress and financial hard aches. Your video is my start to conquer this distraction of TMS. I feel watching your video is like a renewing of my tms vows. Thanks again. Sorry for the long post, but I needed to get it out there to start the ball rolling again.
Hi- read his book again. You got this !! I saw Dr. Sarai’s colleague and of course with these kinds of emotions I would imaging the brain is trying to trick you again. Please be proactive and read Dr. Sarno’s book again. You can yell at your brain. I believe in you!! ❤️
I hope you were successful again.
anybody here suffering of myofascial pain sindrome? pain in the muscles of the neck and shoulder (contracture for many years) and strong nsuralgia / migraines daily? the pain going from the muscles to the left side of the head. my head and cervical MRIs seem to be fine except of a scoliosis but i suspect i might be a candidate for the TMS therapy formulated by John E Sarno. I wish you all success in healing. Cristi from Romania.
Very helpful. 'The physical is a dead end street'. Such a powerful quote. Thank you.
Breathing exercise done in a quiet room, restful-most-position (ideally lying down) briefly (5 - 10 min) just a couple times a day "feeds" the body oxygen boosting/enhancing all circulatory systems of the body and fights FM. Great video, good job! Personal behavioral therapy to discover repressed symptoms opens up the body the chance to also heal. Big changes for the body can be achieved without meds. My opinions here. THX 🌄
Vim Hauff’s breathing exercise only takes 11 minutes!!
I'm reading Dr. Sarno's book, The Divided Mind. It was recommended to me recently following a period of stress / burnout. I have experienced lower back pain for the last 15 years and no medical diagnosis. I'm really interested in the TMS theory and now working on this to help relieve my symptoms by addressing the source of the issue.
I am reading it too. Are you finding it helpful?
@@kikita278 I found it educational and started me on a new journey to address the TMS as described by Dr Sarno. I found a therapist educated in TMS and having one session per month with homework and using the Curable app too. Still only on week 2 so very early days! Feeling optimistic though 😊
Just subscribed . I have an anxiety disorder and ptsd and chronic back pain . Looking at Dr Sarno"s material and feling like its a good direction. Thank you .
Shirley from Alberta…When I saw the reference to Dr Sarno’s 12 steps, I was ‘in’! I read one of his books months ago and became painfree! So grateful for the 12 steps without having to read the whole rational! You did a great job of delivering this! Thank you!!! A surgery and injury created pain again in the ‘old areas’. My experience is pain triggers pain…back to eliminating the part not about ‘healing’…💕💜👩🏼🙏
Which one did you read?
How to deal with PEM if one has ME/CFS? Pacing is the most important tool to avoid a crash. I truly believe in this theory
I am also wondering about this. I guess we should not be afraid to go outside and walk a little bit every day if we’re not completely floored. We shouldn’t push ourselves on long walks, but a short walk should be in the cards.
I would recommend the book Reverse Therapy by Dr John Eaton for an alternate view on PEM that made a huge shift for me, to enable progress and healing
@@breatheslow356 Thanks - I will have look at it. There are many Retraining Programs, I had tried Gupta long ago and informed myself about others, but one needs energy, also mentally to do the work and stay positive.
At a certain point a always lost my motivation, even though I know how important it is. I suppose many of us needs trauma therapy first to not to get stuck in old conditionings/programmings which are mainly in the subconsious. Did you heal with the programe?
Very helpful video. I now know that my issue is biological/physical, as when I try to overcome my issue it gets much worse. So it's very important to rule out biological.
I have an incomplete spinal cord injury and I’ve dealt with chronic pain and neuropathy since my injury in 2008. However, since the start of the pandemic, I developed acute health anxiety, panic attacks, and now my back pain has gone off the charts since April 2023. I’m caught in a nasty cycle of pain, anxiety, and depression… which only worsens the pain, then anxiety, and brings more depression. I’m looking at getting a therapist that deals with chronic pain. I’m certain my SCI is causing a certain level of neuropathy, but I also believe that my anxiety and depression are making it worse.
Me too had spinal cord injury. So isn't we from real pain from spinal cord injury?
Im not scared of movement. I have other kinds of fear that flare me up. Sometimes it just a little thing like when I wake up anxious. I just have to get up and go do life. It can be tough but its the only thing that works for me. When i realized i wasn’t broken I just started back 100 on everything I used to do. Running and biking was big . I thought i would never do them again because of the pain. But I did . I had to be the boss not my limbic system
Yes you got it!!! This is it
Thanks, very useful. Had surgery on my left foot a year ago, surgeon told me three was nothing structurally wrong with it. Been through the avoidance/catastrophising thing though still a bit intimidated at facing pain square on.
Great video. I've been following Sarno's steps for years; they cured me of terrible debilitating bouts of chronic back pain 10 years ago.
However it seems chronic pain is something I have to live with. Last year it was a combination of right shoulder pain and left inner knee pain. I kept working out despite the pain, working around the pain, so to speak, and eventually the shoulder pain vanished. The knee pain took longer, but then switched sides!
So even though I understand and believe that these are classic TMS symptoms, I never seem to be able to fully get rid of them.
I practice karate several times a week. The pain subsides as the workout progresses. But it would be amazing to leave the pain behind.
I can easily see how I suppress/contain emotions, especially anger, no mystery there. But still my brain resists letting me off the hook, pain-wise. So it seems like I could go further in treating my TMS, just don't know how.
Thanks for sharing. Yes it’s the emotions that category you want to learn to spend more time on it’s one of the missing pieces people seem to avoid- hence the repression suppression many of us do :)
Exactly my experience! It is hard to shake the fear that working through the pain is going to worsen the imagined injury.
You’ve given me hope thank you.
I’ve read the divided mind… and. Am working hard on recovery. I have TMS in both elbows. The left elbow for two years (as confirmed by two steroid shots, and a clean MRI) and my right for about 6 months. I’ve seen a reduction in pain in my dominate arm but my left side has gotten worse. Confident I’ll get there but it’s tough! These videos help.
Needed the reminder. Thank you.
THANK YOU SIR.
blown away. thank you
I get down on the ground work in garden... I sweep the driveway...Iclean house...I grocery shop...ect...I live alone...I have a commercial kitchen in my basement so I go up &downstairs all day I make a few decorated cakes ( I've been doing cakes for 40 years) but have a difficult time walking because I have groin pain * sciatic...& if I walk too fast I would " buckle" over & fall! I do yoga six days a week...
Nice work Jim.
Thanks Dan you too! Keep up the vids so
many people tell me they are super helpful!!
Well done love the breakdown and explanation of each rule. Been practicing this for awhile.
Im on the path to finding a mental health therapist. I have alot of repressed emotions over my sons suicide. So many other details make this issue a severe case of CPTSD. I just got a new doctor, so the next step is therapy. I have been in chronic pain for about a year, and I know that it's TMS, not fybromyalgia.
Really helpful breakdown! I am reading and practising all I can find ... and I feel a difference already . Sub'd. Thanks.💡
Your brain is there to tell you there is a problem! I broke and destroyed my ankle 18 yes ago. I was told after they put it back together best they could, I was healed and the pain I had was all in my head. I lived and worked in severe pain 18 yes, because healthcare told NE its all in my head. I recently had ankle replacement surgery, and was told by the surgeon the ankle should have been done decades ago! Yes of Dr apts complaining and being told my pain was wrong and nothing was wrong! Listen to patients most know their bodies and feeling better than you!
Thank you.
So helpful thank you.
I have CFS, and am having difficulty with increasing what I do. I've been working at what has felt like my limit for as long as I can remember due to family commitments etc. When I do even a little bit more of cognitive tasks, I can barely function for the next couple of days. I filled in a small part of a form this week and that evening at family teatime I couldn't even form sentences. I'm not sure how to handle this.
Hi Katherine I know it can be tough but gradual consistent exposure is the answer that’s what the research shows. The key is mentally reinterpreting the symptoms as benign and not dangerous. This is changing your brain on two levels- mental communication to the limbic brain and physical communication from the body to the brain when you gradually but steadily keep doing a little more each week. It’s not easy but cfs influences the same parts of the brain as chronic pain- that limbic brain. It’s become over sensitized and over reacts to very normal things. You have to reteach it whats normal again. Also deal with emotions. Not sure of your history feel free to reach out for initial consultation if you want to dive in deeper to put the pieces together. Take care!
Wow. I’ve been afraid to go hard at sports and exercise .. bc I’m petrified that it will go back to the old reaction.
Brilliantly explained. Love the experiential anecdotes. Would love to see a specific vid for recurrence, perhaps on low back w mri findings that cause apprehensiveness.
Yeah unless the funings are really severe lmost the things are gray hairs of spine if you had an injury then that should also heal!
Oh my goodness! You're helping me so much. I'm a bit stuck
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Brilliant explanation sir! Thanks 🙏
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My medical brackground is radiation oncolgy .Are there any scientific double blinds studies that demonstrate your conjecture on pain is true? In having chronic pain for 45 years and having studied the neuroscience of pain this this theory feels valid for only a VERY tiny percent of people with chonic pain. Thank's kindly
Thanks for checking in. Yes there are lots of brain MRI studies showing that the circuits in the brain move to emotional circuits in chronic pain. In fact Dr. Apkarian at Northwestern has done a bunch of brain studies which predict with 85% accuracy who develops chronic pain based on connections in the brain. I’ll try to link a couple here it’s also newer one that could predict chronic low back pain from healthy controls at 91% accuracy based on the functional connectivity of some centers in the brain. When you combine that information with with Dr. Sarno was saying years ago a lot of chronic pain is due to the central nervous system and subsequent autonomic nervous system dysfunction. Obviously not all chronic pain some severe joint changes can absolutely cause pain for example. Just need to get a good history of the patient looking at their whole life not just the physical side of things to put the picture together. Take care!
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23823463/
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www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/10/15/chronic-pain-brain-plasticity/
I could not agree more…..I was a Registered Nurse and now sufferer of conditions which do not respond to this type of therapy..
Thankyou.. I'm trying so hard with gym ' but then that's when the flares start .. I'm going to get more aggressive....... I need my life back. I'm confused if it muscle strain at some point.. as its one spot.. ughh amd it's 2000 times words after my favorite activities.. I'm listening to this x12 today
Any benifit
I am a doctor with my own chronic pain. The division between physical and emotional is not as neat as this, especially in older people. Untangling the ( genuine) physical causes of pain from the ( genuinely) emotional causes is complicated
It would take the TMS work to a whole new level by addressing this dilemma
Listen to his audio book. He specifically states that ones who don't believe mind body connection, this won't work. Sounds like you're trying to find flaws in this.
Hi I've had a stroke and I have burning pain in the face arm on the side of my stroke. It comes and goes. I believe it's TMS can you tell me what you think. I had a mir on my brain I still have the damage in my cerebellum from my stroke so I'm not sure.
All makes sense and very helpful, thanks. But what about when depression is also present? The 12 reminders tend to be much harder when also faced with a depression (in my case I believe also "conditioned"). Do we separate the pain from the depression, or integrate? Perhaps "think psychologically" is the key reminder but to me it does imply additional resourcing (eg CBT, mindfulness etc.) as it feels like a double-whammy.
Hi 2 years ago my neck started twisting and pulling . I have always had neck and back problems for the past 30 years. Doctors diagnosed me with Cervical Dystonia. Can it be TMS? Thank you for your help
Thanks for sharing. Wondering though, how this can be adopted when in the condition Myaligic Encephalomyelitis, as ME is a condition due to mitochondrial dysfunction, i.e. mitochondrial shutdown? If you don't have the energy to do something you like/must do, how does it work to persuade the brain to go on, considering post extertional malaise?
I'm not scared of physical activity I just can't be bothered to do any? I've exercised in the past and it hasn't made any difference.
8&9 so important omg
I read Sarno years ago. I have severe lower back pain alternating with groin pain. Also severe arthritis in hips. Had one replaced as it was thought pain from that. Now the pain is particularly horrid on waking but lasts all day. Was told it was sacroiliitis. Does that come under TMS? I want so much to believe i can overcome with TMS knowledge but the pain gets worse. I have been very anxiety ridden during pandemic and because of pain.
Any lose sacroiliitis thru TMS?
Yes very commonly TMS once the structural problems are ruled out
Could migraines and headaches that switch sides be TMS?
Yes dr Sarno had migraines and realized it was Tms !!!
I have mild to moderate Degenerate disc In my back. Your saying just push through the pain? I mean it has subsided drastically and I feel I can run and return to my daily activities but the pain only started happening 4 months ago. I hear the disc will reharden just needs time. So I've been taking it easy and not pushing myself to the limits like before. I'm definitely not afraid, I'm ready heck I was running right after it happened. I had to Force myself to stop. I'm just strengthening my core now and goin on lots of walks. I'm ready just taking it slow. I'm ready just trying to give my body rest.
Yes your pain is not chronic. If you hurt yourself with an injury give it some time and gradually return to activities. Not all pain is TMS and chronic. Makes sense what you are doing
I having disc bulge mri says spina bifida but i completed physical exam for police remebered sarno then ihave ocd i think tms there whether i can go for training please rply me
Reach out at the pain Pt if you want to consult individually
In my case no pain but heavy muscle spasm at my low back and hips area...pls help me
What if you have a physical condition/diagnosis. Can this concept then still be applied?
Thanks for helping us, Jim. I have a question. I've been having pain in my left scapular, and a scraping feeling, esp. when I move the arm from side to side Doing some research, it looks like I have winging scapula. The scapula sticks out; my right arm is longer than the left arm; and my left shoulder is lower than the right shoulder. Do you think that this is a form of TMS too? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Yes this could easily be a ‘normal abnormality’ many people have one bigger foot a longer arm etc. the history is the most important as to how the symptoms started. Many many people had discrepancies side to side with no issues
Can this cause dry eye?
How do you deal with the anger?
More than I can answer here. Acknowledge and express and manage consciously is the simple answer
How would we tie this into to stress/anxiety dysphagia?
I'm not sure if it's tms I have but for years I keep coming down with flu like symptoms every week, I'm always feeling unwell and in the last year I have started getting aches and high fatigue , docs want to label it as fibromyalgia. I'm 37 and don't have much of a life , I want to work and do normal stuff. Is there tms practitioners in the UK? Have you any more useful videos I could watch pls I really want to start helping myself, i can't afford to pay for any help so I'm hoping I will find stuff on CZcams.
Loved the video thankyou
SIRPA is in the UK they are great. I am a SIRPA certified practitioner myself. They have an online program you could look at for more info. Lots of other resources with TMS books out there best of luck you can get better!
But what if your brain produces high blood pressure because of the emotional stress which lead to a heart attack? I dont know if it is so harmless. Seen in the latest succes story video of Dan Buglio it can also influence the thyroid system and other hormones. How do I place this?
Yes good point stress can place stress on any area of the body. So if underlying emotional stress is the cause then we need to get the system to relax which is not worrying, catastrophizing, exercising and working with emotions. The ‘harmless’ Sarno mentions means no deep structural cause and it’s reversible.
Does this apply to long covid ? 10 months. My symptoms are fatigue, insomnia, anxiety.
yes it does! Dr. Howard Schubiner speaks to this
I’m interested in how you diagnose someone? I’d like to talk with you. I have very legitimate issues but others that could be TMS, not sure how do differentiate
How is it mild oxygen deprivation (and of what part of the body) when the finger pulse monitors show good oxygen levels?
Can you please explain what you mean by mild oxygen deprivation? Thanks
I’m sure the fibromyalgia is TMS, but what about osteoporosis?
I have started the audio listening of this book ..pls tell me how it can cure my issue . Low back muscl spasms
it is my case and I want to clarify for myself. I am powerlifter and I had injured my back when I tried to lift heavy ( at the right time I left) . so how can I tell to me and my brain it is TMS and it is not real injury!!!
as a mattet of fact, isn’t it?
Need to go through your history to put the pieces together- things like how long been since injury, what did you do, psychosocial factors like anxiety, catastrophizing, hypervigilance, stress, how you deal with emotions, and past history including adverse childhood events (aces). Reach out if you want to do a consultation take care
I read Sarno's book over a decade ago and at the end he excluded EDS (a genetic connective tissue disorder I am sure you are familiar with). I am curious if the thinking or research has changed on this over the years. Thank you for this summary and outreach.
There is some research coming out the show that there is a autonomic nervous system component and brain and stress component to EDS. Specifically that anxiety is very highly linked with EDS.
@@thepainpt Thank you. Look forward to hearing what's around the corner. Been practicing mind body healing for years; it's definitely been supportive as has addressing stressors. Thank you for your work, care and connection.
Genes can change....Bruce Lipton talks about this
Pretty sure you are a charlatan. Telling people with chronic pain to exercise themselves like they don’t have pain. But they DO have pain and forcing yourself to experience even higher volumes of pain and then be told that if you don’t do it “oh well” which is what it sounds like Dr Sarno is saying. This is what all you people who take advantage of people with health issues do. You blame the patient. Living with high levels of pain is HELL. You have NO idea.
@@simonebye6771 you must not have looked at all the DNRS testimonies. There are 1000’s of people that are out of chronic pain, I’d really look into the science of it. Thought by thought healing is a good one
If the symptoms arent dangerou...I get that..but what if you know youll fall&
I find this confusing I'm afraid. There is no movement that I avoid, I do yoga and Tai Qi and I'm a stay at home dad of two children, one of whom is six years old, so pretty full on. However, at various times during the day the pain becomes so intense that harmless or not, I simply have no choice but to rest until it subsidies. How am I to break this cycle? Many thanks. 🙏
I don’t know your story Jeremy but just the little bit you shared it’s possible the children are triggering emotions in you that are not being expressed and this is creating pain. Seems to make sense especially if you’re very active and can do things on a physical level. I’ve seen it many times before with other patients where the stresses of raising children trigger symptoms. Be happy to go deeper into your history if you want to set up a consultation. Take care!
Yup he s right
Healing Chronic Pain- The Pain PT Thanks... my youngest is six, so just another twelve years to go before college. 😉🙏😂
Gas Lighting - WHAT RESEARCH? I noticed you cited zero peer reviewed journal articles. Can you provide evidence?
Told i have severe arthritis, bone spurs, in hip. Can this be TMS? Or partially TMS? Quitt Painful but not all the time
It really depends and is individual to each person. Generally speaking if you have mild to moderate arthritis many people have that severe arthritic changes are related to some pain
I don't know very much about Dr. Sarno's work, but have been curious. Currently I have pain in my cervical area - MRI confirms a herniated disc there. Also, compression fracture in the thoracic area, which led to diagnosis of osteoporosis. I've wondered whether periodic flare ups in pain are related to emotional causes, or if perhaps I'm not the audience he was writing to, since there is actual damage in these areas.
In Dr Sarno book he says that most people have bad discs this is normal. It don’t bother them why does it u
What if these feelings of abandonment, loneliness, fear…have been going on for years and seem to have no end? Very dark, very depressing. How does that feel like an injury that heals when it never does?
You can acknowledge those feelings but you don’t need to become those feelings. If you’re aware of them you’re separated from them. acknowledge them but also have the intention of letting them go
Is air hunger strictly emotional or is there any physiological reasons?
There could be physical reasons if you have exhausted yourself or have some type of lung issue but anxiety can cause a lot of air hunger
I’m struggling with this too. All my tests are clear
@@nahidtahira9900 I do a lot of box and diaphragmatic breathing. I also bought an incentive spirometer.
@@thepainpt I’m doing the somatic tracking, meditations and journaling. Most of my otter symptoms have subsided but the chest pressure and shortness of breath just isn’t shifting. Any additional advice will be much appreciated
I would like to be evaluated by you! How can I go about that?
How do you diaose TMS?
Hi Jim! How can I set up an appt with you to discuss this? Mid-ways through book!
www.thepainpt.com
You say WHEN youre in pain...I have pain all the time...
Hey how do I get a consultation ? I believe I suffer from tms
www.thepainpt.com/request-consultation/
If I score high on ppd association questionnaire would that not diagnose my condition as ppd or TMS Mind Body
Yes that is indicating that you most likely have TMS!
hi...how much does it cost to talk to you about making certain I know it's TMS?
Got to my website and fill out a consultation request. I charge 150 US for the consultation. Take care!
@healingchronicpain-thepain3727 what if we can talk to you over the computer?
What's your view on the role of this in chronic fatigue syndrome? Thanks.
What is the name of the book you refer to
The Book is called "Healing Back Pain" by Dr Sarno. I was amazed at how my back pain went away after I read the book. Actually before I even finished the book!
What the hell is TMS??? Dude come on
TMS?
what is TMS?
Tension Myositis Syndrome as coined by Dr. Sarno
@@thepainpt thank you
Are you with Lin Health? They ripped me off sir. I can't handle the pain and they made it worse. I joined the program and Lin health took out the 400 dollars but me no product making me feel more pain from people that I trusted to help me. 😢
Can restless legs be tms?
Mine was magnesium deficiency. I rub magnesium oil on my legs
Sorru but too boring. The numbers are not animated on the screen
What is TMS?
Dr Sarno wrote a book called, "Healing Back Pain". It's his name he created for the syndrome. "TMS is a condition in which unconscious emotional issues (primarily rage, though other practitioners include other subconscious emotional issues such as anxiety, past trauma, and fear) initiate a process that causes physical pain and other symptoms."
@@andreaama9254 Even if there were no solid proof it would make a lot of sense. We do feel different when experiencing pain and if we are feeling different at certain times we can generate certain physical conditions.