1960- Madill 009 yarder -A mystery of history
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- čas přidán 17. 10. 2011
- My longest video yet,decided to keep it as one part.A 1960 Madill steel tower yarder that is innaccesable by road.Has a cummins engine in it.The 'Still Madill"
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"Old logging stuff always puts up a fight." Great remark at the end! Looking at the stand-up operator's spot surrounded by those huge moving parts, it's astonishing how hazardous this old stuff was just to operate. As always, a great video.
+diane9247 thanks for the look!
I know this yarder!! Just seeing her again brings back some great memories. She was the first yarder I set chockers on in '72.
Later, I pulled rigging on her. Gustaff Liske was the Yarder Enginer and still lives at the Lake. Dobbie Summerville the Hook Tender and last I heard was in an old people's home at the Lake. John Svetich (Scabby John) was the Bull Bucker and lives in Duncan. Those men will recognize her and probably add a lot more about her history. I'm not sure but I think the spar was 100' and the main line 1 1/4". It's been 45 years :-)
On average we could get about 195 logs a day. She was owned by TW McKenzie Logging (Buster McKenzie, Manager), now Pacific Logging. We had her setup on Len's Main in those days but it looks like she is mothballed (abandonded) on the Shaw Creek side.
I had the pleasure of driving her on one move. Inside the front cab was still army green. As I recall Gus told me she was built on an old tank retriever chasis. It's the only yarder I have ever seen where driving controls were in the front. Kind of an experience to take those sticks in your hands and step on the gas and feel her lurch forward. Most of the other Madill's McKenzie's owner were controlled from the enginer's cab when we moved them.
Nice memory, thanks for caring about this old lady of logging and for the video.
cool story
+Dirk Diggler i live in roseburg about fifteen miles away?
Doina ce faci
Looks like half track sprockets and rollers.
@@willcojak9650 WW2 M6 artillery prime mover.
The Madill, on tracks, brought back memories of when I worked with a crew on one in the mid to late 70's at Stave Lake.
I would love to hear these things start. May take quite awhile but most liikely worth it in the end.
Great video! Its always nice to see these old machines still around.
that give me tears in my eyes! great film of old warriors. work in the logging buisness in norway and love old logging machine! keep up on the good work!
One of my favorites, l have to look it up and watch it from time to time
Great find and video. I own 4 acres on Gabriolla Is. and have to drive through Nanaimo to take the ferry over. I always loved seeing the logging trucks when I was a kid. I have been restoring WW2 military vehicles for almost 20 years. That yarder was built on a 1944 Allis-Chalmers M-6 High Speed Artillery Tractor. It towed the 155 mm gun. It was powered by twin Waukesha 6 cyl. engines, 190 brake horse power each. Fighting weight was 76,000 lbs. Towed load was 50,000 lbs.
Well,that's more than the rest of us know about the bottom half of this thing,glad you enjoyed it!
I wish someone would restore thatbeast it looks awesome!
It’s crazy, you are crazy 😃 beautifull vidéo again, best regard from France
Thanks for watching!
For sure,will be a great documentary from sit to salvage,keep me posted,thanks Daryl!
The M-4 Sherman tank was built in huge numbers, and after the War so many component assemblies were available that heavy equipment MFG 's bought them cheaply, and used them in their machinery. Differentials, final drives, suspension stations, tracks, all easily procured.
This yarder was made form an old "Tank Retriever". That's why the driver area is not enclosed or armored. The video mentions that sometimes the tower was filled with water. True. This was done during fire season. That tower would hold 1500 gallons and with the 100 foot head the water had a LOT of pressure when you attached a fire hose. Mostly we used it to fill out Wafax back tanks and for safety in case we got a fire near the landing from the Mainline or Haul-back chaffing on a log or stump.
Nice video , I like it because It reminds me of our forest lake areas here in the Canadian shield . I've come across some interesting stuff way up back . Like old trappers cabins and logging and mining machinery .
I could smell the cedar as I watched this .
This is a very old Madill, not a standard 009. Priceless piece of history. In this times, every Madill yarder was unique. Customer purchased own hoist unit (from Washington IronWorks, Tyee, Skagit.....) and undercarriage. Ex-military vehicles like this M6 Hi-speed tractor or M26 Dragon Wagon were often used. Carrier and hoist were delivered to S. Madill factory, where they put it together, added the steel tower "Spar 009" and guyline setup.
I love it .I used to visit derelict power stations. I just love industrial entropy.
I've seen that yarder so many times from the other side of Stave and have always wanted to get a closer look.Thank you for sharing,Todd!
Thanks for taking the time to post this clip. Wish I were there.
Very Interesting, I find these videos to be really educational as well as enjoyable. Thanks!
Ray Quigley Glad you like them!
Thanks!yes,each piece represents wins and defeats for old company's,peoples first,worst or best job experiences,and thousand of untold memories and stories of thrill,misery,and danger.
High Lead Logging is the second most dangerous job in the world. More than a few stories of thrills (near misses), misery and much danger, expected and SURPRISE!
You need brains and heart and a little luck in the logging game,some days when you pulling strawline in the rain and cold,you think i going to git me a job back truck driving and then when the suns out the logs are going up the hill,you think man this a great job!?
What memories this brings spent many hours day's and weeks pull in riggen setting chockers and watching these old school girl's pulling trophy size sitka spruce and western hemlock in the glory days of the 70s in SE Alaska back in the real high lead one whistle go and run loved it
Thanks a bunch,glad you like some of this strange stuff too.
I love watching your videos. These machines were peoples livelihoods. I could imagine operators got to know each ones nuances and behavior, something they likely havent forgotten to this day. It must be so exciting to come across them.
absolutely amazing!
That one seriously belongs at the museum in Duncan, it is probably the earliest surviving Madill spar. Notice the guyline drums are all down low, that was before they put the gear reduction on the two front quarters. Not too many had the M6 carrier with original Army cab either.
Awesome Todd thank you!!! Hopefully some day I can bump into some stuff like this up north
Just awesome footage. I love this channel!
Awesome video, love this sort of abandoned machine.
Holy smoke, a 90 with a deck level operator cage, Gearmatic, band brakes and hand frictions! That operator was workin'!
It's doubtful someone would go to that elaborate a job to make a temporary pad there just to set it on to wait for the barge, I'll bet it was piped up right there and used to swing wood to the beach, like you say. Well put to bed too, someone intended to take it out of there
Love stuff like this, thanks for sharing
thanks,appreciate you watching,take care.
Now time to restore it
This was truelly a treat! Someday I'll have to come with you on an adventure. Some stuff still in the bush down here on CA but not much. Mostly bits and pieces and much is on gated land.
Chasing a few turns on a real working BU99 was surely a treat for this city born kid though!
Keep the videos coming!
Thank you.
i 've searched a long time what could have been the base of this thing.
The tracks and all the rolling parts looked military to me as soon as saw them.
She was a WWII Tank Retriever.
@@ZarDos001
Thanks.
Would be neat to see it restored for history and posterity!!
Anywhere else, stuff like this would've been scrapped years ago. That's the cool and unique thing about Vancouver Island. It would cost more to get these machines off the island than they're worth, so they'll be there till they turn to dust.
Thank you! I obviously know NOTHING about logging. . . now I know what that old guy did for a living.
That thing is killer! I live on the gulf coast in Alabama. Had no idea y'all still had dinosaurs. VERY COOL. Awesome video.
Ill never understand why people have to vandalize things . but i guess that just to much to ask of people.
That's awesome, I wonder if everything would still work.
Strangely creepy but fascinating !!!! .... and subbed. Hello from Ireland :)
thanks,glad you enjoyed it.
Liked this one!! Quite interesting!!
Nice video. Good walk around w/o any excessive, unnecessary talk. Well done.
good job.
I bet i could have the Cummins running in in an hour as long as it hasn't been under water or had water in it.
hydraulic pumps and motors would likely be froze up.
that value laying 30 yards away would cost a grand to get going.
probably wouldn't be a hydraulic hose on it now that would hold any pressure.
I bet the track would roll. everything that's involved in driving it would be froze up.
in the end it wouldn't be worth much. couldn't use it today without a bunch of shields.
you might get lucky if a guy that hit the lottery ran it many years ago and really wanted it to put in his living room.
+Tim Henry Its a good conversation piece/curiosity,but its day of contributing to the economy may well be long behind it.
sherman tracks, awesome video
Glad you are saving these machines for posterity. They will never make these old guys again.
Very cool old find there!
This looks like the one I see abandoned at the side of a Lake on Vancouver Island when I'm out ATVing. Always wonder why they just abandoned equipment like that.
Glad you liked it!
Was going to ask where this was, thought it looked like Stave Lake - then I see in the comments it is. I did a timber sale in Stave, Lost Creek on the east side, many years ago.
I've ran a Madill with a Skagit winch on it, but not a hand jammer.
still love it. they had to bring that in on a barge.
I’ve worked on these machines.
It’s a hellva thing to be good at.
Amazing in bc I take it?
@@keepontruckinoutlawlife1248
probably.
I got acquainted with loggers and what they could do to a machine in Washington, made some money at it in Alaska, and set up shop back in my hometown.
The grease, frictions and smoke is an acquired taste.
Why did they abandoned it seems like a good piece just left to rot
Excellent.
Deserves to run.
But, what old engine doesn't?
The carrier is a heavy artillary tractor from WWII.They utilized some of the same components.The cab appears to be basicly unmodified.These tractors were faster and could carry more soldiers and ammo than the crawlers used .
Imagine the foresight genius of the original maker of this machine...
If ya follow the beginning of Logging you will understand this machine was just an upgrade from the previous one and so it goes in process control.
Ernest Murphy Yes certainly most seemingly modern inventions are upgrades of less sophisticated crude process or function. Agreed.
Need, is the mother of invention and this is one big mother, who's parts are made up of formerly successful mechanized products with proven reliability.
Sir..been awhile since you posted this video..did you glean any information on how this monster got out there? love a mystery..thx..
Don't know how she got there but knew this yarder well.
i want to use that for my logging operation
Nice Video this a real early 09 I have worked on an ran many never seen one without a upper cab or one with a lower engine and not a down drive box
Yes,but the dam was made in the 1910's.It was floated up here on a barge years ago.
Why the two engines on that thing?
@@texasrox2010 one for the undercarriage and one for the yarder itself
Gotta be some good fishing,up in them stumps!!
It's sitting on the logs so that it doesn't sink into the ground/mud and also won't freeze to the ground in the winter.
+Jason Richardson - I guess that indicates the owner thought he was coming back to get it.
i used to work on madill yarders in the late 70. up in naka creek on vancouver isle
I've fueled those old Madills in the woods back in the day, pretty sure I recall those built on a tank chassis. The parts would be expensive and perhaps hard to find for the tank part on the bottom.
ea they are thats a m4 sherman chassis
Ryan Becker i wonder if it was finished after the war or was ever used in combat (back when it was used for the sherman and not the machine)
probly was and then converted to that
Yeah you can tell from the sprocket it’s a Sherman
Someone took the carb off that big block now its ruined.
So that one was sold to Western Forest Industries in 1960. I think I just might have a picture of it when it was brand new, well, a year old anyway. Got to check my slides.
back when men were men and machines were machines
I know this is an older post but do they ever go back and log again in the area where some of these are left or do they just let them rust away ?
Congrats.
I always wonder the circumstances of a piece of equipment like this being left out in the woods. Why wouldnt the company even if it was broken pull it out when they were finished?
When you bid a job your bid includes the use of equipment and the prorated life and mean times between failures is evaluated. Equipment replacement is generally not in the budget unless it is a multi year job.. the Forestry dept would have contracts regarding the looging that was done in the area. I'm going out on a skinny limb here, to say the owner may have passed on, and the will to bring her back home, was never found, by who was left.
It’s been 10 years. Time for a follow up on the old girl.
12 and a half years as of now.
June, 9th 2024.
Be sweet to see a follow up on the old girl.
Surplus parts were readily available, and many companies purchased suspension stations, transmission/Final drive assemblies, and built them into their own designs. Logging machinery was a popular use of these components.
Ran a lot of 009's but I never saw a Madill hand jammer! That's right, no air controls. Before the Witchita era looks like, it's got band brakes. Has a Gearmatic too.
I'll bet this one was piped down to move, and before it was moved some manager probably decided that it was too slow and old to be worth barging it to another job, and they just left it where it sat cribbed up like that. I'll bet that lower motor ran the hydraulic pump to run the jacks, guy line winches, and bullprick cylinder.
@tcbsrcs I've been told it has a bad steering clutch or final drive on one side
awesome skadill
nice!!
my grandfather was a machinist at madill in nanaimo during that time so likely his work is in this machine.
long and forgotten!
I worked on a Madill with a Sherman tank carrier back in 1986 in just out of Spuzzum in the Siwash and Anderson creek area for Cattermole timber out of Chilliwack BC top speed was about 6 mph longest move to a setting was usually not more than a mile or two otherwise we would low bed it was too slow and hard on the tracks to move any great distance.
so quiet out there. couldn't help thinking what a racket that thing made when it was in operation.
Transported by barge as much BC remote location camps an logging operations used to be accessed.It's in the southwest corner of BC Canada
The lower engine is a Ford. Like 401,477,534.
462xd
Do any of you think there is video of one of these in operation? I'd love to see that.
no, that is a M6 High Speed tractor. They towed the big artillery late in the war. Built by Allis Chalmers.
This is the machine that pulls the wood from wher it did get copd down
Anybody ever help you out based on those serials you recorded? I'd love to know more history on this beast. Thanks for taking us along.
Be cool if it could be made operational again
Yes
It's still there,Is aw it myself from across the water last thursday again.It in B.C southcoast
Respect 4 you ;)
Any guess as to why it was left behind?
Sweet! M6 HST based!
Nothing yet,but It's days are numbered.
Yes,that's all accurate info you've got there.
Madill used to build yarders on Sherman tanks chassis. Alot of them still run strong
I love it ,and have built a hobby and youtube channel around it.
this up by port alberni??
pardon me but is that the base of a skyline for dragging logs ?
yes