"Meghan Had To Learn To Be Black!" Sir Trevor Phillips On Racism In The UK
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by broadcaster and former politician Sir Trevor Phillips, TalkTV contributor and family lawyer Paula Rhone-Adrien and TalkTV host Richard Tice to discuss whether the UK is racist and if there is some legitimacy to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's claims that the Royal Family and the UK's media are racist.
Trevor believes that the UK is no longer a racist place and suggests that anyone that believes it is should ask their parents or grandparents what the country was like 30+ years ago. Trevor also adds that studies have shown that comparatively, the UK is a better place to live than the rest of Europe and America for ethnic minorities.
Piers then brings up Meghan's past claims of racism within the Royal Family as well as the media. Trevor explains that he felt sorry her as she had previously said that she never had seen herself as black due to being mixed race. Trevor then suggests Meghan had to "learn how to be black on the job" working within a white-dominated institution and offers this as a possible explanation as to why she may have felt the way she did.
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I am a black woman. I live in the Caribbean, and Meghan didn’t live a life as a “black woman”. SHE DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE BLACK. That is a fact
You sound like it's so horrible to be black or colored, and that she is lucky she isn't. Everyone is different and insecure in their own way. Stop playing victim.
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Unfortunately, M doesn't think like most decent UK types - who hate r•••sm with a passion🫣💜 - she thinks like the (46 year old/1980s) rich gurl LA pseudo "Princess" that she has always
been😶😌 She is extremely dismissive❗️ of anybody "Not WP"🤨💜(what's that about??😶💜) & can get very unnecessary!
(We remember her behaviour at Skippy's Wedding in Jamaica🇯🇲💜) - & how she went off at the Jamaican Waiter - several times, speaking to him in the worst way (it was unbelievable!) until the 4th time her "drinks order" "wasn't as she wanted it"🤨💜 (& he did nothing wrong!) she was just drunk & behaving like the LA pseudo "princess" she thinks she is🫣💜 (quite a while pre Wedding to H even) - & then she completely lost it the 4th time she had a pop at him (many tequilas in!) - & the swear-y rant she came out with😡😡 (including the kind of r•c••l slurs we've never heard here!😶💜) made everybody turn around & stare - it was the talk of the Home Counties for quite a while💜💜 - bc that kind of thing is just wrong, wrong wrong (- & we don't see that in The UK!) & it always shocks us Overseas if anybody is that way - but M was a 1980s kid - & in the U S those attitudes hv never gone away🤨💜 (& espc in places like LA - in particular!🫣💜 & Texas etc etc) her attitudes are Nothing to do with this UK💜💜& the 56 Country Commonwealth💜💜 (& then when she went on that Commonwealth mini Royal Tour - she similarly was extremely rude + had no respect for the ppl if Fiji🫣💜 (it was appalling!) & one of the women meant to do the meet & greet was in tears bc M had ignored her speaking repeatedly, refused to make eye contact (!) & stuck her silly beak high in the air🫣💜 - & then at one point it was obvious that M was "smirking":& barely managing to not start laughing🤨💜) & the Royal Staff were furious! (espc bc some were in tears bc she had been so rude & so obviously prejudiced😡😡) - & when the late Queen found out she was v upset (& v angry) She thanked & commended all the staff for trying to speak to the ppl M had upset - & doing their best in the face of M's unpleasant behaviour (& R word antics!) - & then she sent Prince Wm to each Country one by one to apologise💜💜 - but the basic facts are that M is Not An Activist nor what she pretends❗️ to be❗️ - & she doesn't see herself as p.o.c - & has No intention of being around those who are🤨💜 - she's somebody who wants❗️ to be part of the U S Elite❗️ - & will do anything to get there.
(& there was no way she was going to Open Hospital Wings or talk to cranky over 75s in care homes on rainy Mondays) - she made a run back to LA as soon as she realised it would be that 90% of the time on "visits" (& not "all glamorous" - as Prcs Diana used to do - it can be quire boring sometimes but PD did it all + much charity work - without question)
Unfortunately M is extremely spoiled, entitled, lazy, workshy❗️ & her attitudes belong back in the U S hundreds of years ago.
When you see her "accepting" (paid for) "Awards" for "fighting r••••sm" - it is literally ridiculous - but the truth will out💜💜 - the jig is up (she's the only one who doesn't know it - apparently)
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Agree 100%
To be honest, I have never thought she was black or had a black mother. I thought she was hispanic when I saw one episode of Suits.
LOL. Meghan Markle was never Black until it benefited her financially
She's half black, fool.
@@jonhohensee3258 tell MM that.. she wrote Caucasian on her resume and erased her black side literally.
Most didn't even know she's mixed race until she decided to go on about it to suit her narrative.
@@NMiller80666 Is this just how you feel or can you back up your statrement with any facts?
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its an insult to our eyes when they say they are black. if your more white than black your white.
as a black migrant from nigeria who lives in england. i wanna just tell my story :) my whole 17 years of living here, i have only met 1 ACTUALLY racist person. and i’m not even sure if he was racist tbh. but no. my parents have degrees (accountancy and law) and businesses in england and nigeria. due to their hard work, we live in a very privileged area in england. you will still see ethnicities around here though living in peace. my bestie has a black dad and her mum is white too lol. my neighbours are sweet and welcoming. i work hard in school, all my white teachers are extremely supportive. my boyfriend is white and he’s always made sure i feel comfortable. my sister is currently studying dentistry, my step brother is studying cyber security and i hope to get into law soon (i’m doing sixth form rn). NOT ONCE has my race ever been an issue with me growing up, with friends or teachers or anything. i never thought of race UNTIL i began listening to american media and noticed how ridiculously they are obsessed w race! it’s honestly scary and unnerving. i do agree with phillips, im very proud to be a nigerian born british girl and i’ve never felt discriminated due to my colour. you may think “oh what ab old people” THEY ARE SO NICE. i was in the pharmacy once and an old white man asked am ab my hair and how long it takes (he was so shocked when i said 6 hours!) and an old white lady on the bus asked me about my education and she was so sweet (i waved at her when she left the bus). i love this country so much🇳🇬🏴
When you are friends with anyone colour don't mean anything, that Paula woman is racist and I think she still thinks she is a slave and wants reparations for it, what a clown she is, I like most people but I cringe when I see her, I loved your story.
I guess if they "wondered what sex the baby would be",they would be sexist.I was curious as would any normal person if my son would be as pale as me or as brown as my husband/hoping brown since I look like a ghost.He did get his fathers beautiful skin and dark eyes but my features.Gorgeous baby and grew even more so as an adult.
American here. I have to say it's the crazy Democrats who are obsessed with race. Conservatives just want to work hard and live. I do hope you tell your story to more people. It's people like you that will save the world from falling into this race obsession.
That’s great. We have a Nigerian family moved in on our road and they are lovely, very friendly people.
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We need more people like Sir Trevor. The voice of reason and wisdom among disilusional people like the "ones" who are holding on to grudges.
Exactly, like her in the middle. Trevor on the other hand was spot on.
Agree
Meaghan married into a white British royal familly. Its not up to the royals to accommodate and adapt to her!! She is supposed to adapt to them. Princess Mary of Denmark was Australian, a commoner who didn't speak Danish, she learned to speak Danish and adapted to the royal familly. The same with Grace Kelly.
That is wonderful and shows they really cared to fit in.
Norway Princess Martha Louise has abandoned her patronages to marry a black guru from Hollywood and live in Los Angeles, California. She never trashed her family just because her family is white. She made a clear she does not need title to marry her choice of husband. Look up.
They were all white
@@swannoir7949 no one forced megs into the RF ,
@@CJ-oi7zm So! She married for love, which is not what royals have done up until this point (or after Charles mama made a law where he could marry his horse). But when horse face Camilla was running around sleeping with a married man, did the British papers drag her raggedy ass throw the mud in the papers? Calling her child a monkey? The Queen could've stopped all of that like she had for so long with Charles who was best friends with a pedophile (Jerry Savalle). Please. I needed to be on thst show, because I guarantee you that I would not have allowed those to grape nuts to interject.
She claimed racism within the royal family and nobody has been jailed Paula. Stop shouting and listen. Meghan herself thought she wasn’t black until “she said” she was made aware in the UK. I still don’t think of her as black….certainly NOT 43% pure Nigerian.
How can she be 43% Nigerian when she is only a quarter black?
@@cherryh188 who specifies 43%? how would you measure that?
Amazing how bi racial people ignore their white family then say they're disadvantaged because they're black. That makes no kind of sense.
@@elizabethabbott2982 Someone who is deluded.
@@elizabethabbott2982 lie. That is what she does. She lies so badly and people fall for this nonsense!
Everytime Paula speaks, she does my head in. Shes right up there with the "STOP OIL" lunatics.
Just look at her smug face, when she is talking.
Paula is pathetic
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shes racist dosent like white people .
She makes no sense when she is on any show.. she just likes to argue
If Britain is so bad why do these people stay & why do they keep coming?
Sir Trevor Phillips is a lovely man, I’m just fed up hearing the word ‘Racism’ used to describe a black person. Racism works both ways. I was a nurse back in 1973 in a London hospital, I was sent to a hospital in Tooting. I was assigned to a ward that was run by black staff, at that time I was the only white nurse on the ward. As the sister of the ward was giving us our daily assignments in the office & we were told who was working with who none of the black nurses would work with me, I was 19 yrs old & did not understand racism. As it turned out later I made a friend with one of the black nurses & enjoyed my time there, of course history shows that racism was mainly attributed to black people, but that’s history, can’t we move on. As Sir Trevor said this country is one of the most accepting countries of all people. The actor Morgan Freeman was asked ‘ How can we stop racism’ his reply was ‘ Stop talking about it’
@jean2927 Thankyou for your service to the NHS. I admire all busing staff your comment is a good point well made. I give you a thumbs up, but I think you possibly mean “accepting”not excepting?
Do you think the black staff back then were racist or were they being careful/cautious of you? I can't possibly tell you about your experience because I wasn't there hence the question.
@@jules.b5141… of course you are correct…❤️
@@DAMIAN512… You could well be right…😊
Racism doesn’t “work both ways”, since it’s not just black and white. It works all ways.
That woman promotes racism. Sir Phillips is intelligent.
Paula is a race hustler. She is not interested in facts and improving the black situation, she's interested in using and exploiting it to line her pockets.
Her hate for a certain race is off the charts . She shouldn't be anywhere near a global platform spewing all the hate . She is what's wrong with the western civilized world
There's one racist in this clip
Agree. There is racism in some degree everywhere, and some people who dislike Meghan may be racist. However, can we just dislike her for the same reasons you dislike anyone else? Sometimes, you get a bad vibe from people or you don't like their attitude or personality.
Vicky - He seemed intelligent until he said the phrase "learn to be black".
Racism only exists in people with small minds, and it is usually those same minds that constantly talk about it.
Respect is all we need.
Best comment ever, so true!
You only have to listen to the British on immigration now to see the racism
This black guy is playing it both ways and you simply can't
Totally agree 👍
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So, you mean that in order to not be a racist you have to welcome anyone, without knowing who they are?
I don't support illegal immigrants.
Sir Trevor is the kind of people who really look at problems and issue in a rounded way. A true gentleman and scholar and leader.
Never really knew she was biracial until the media pointed it out
I thought she was Mexican.
Meg never knew she was black or biracial till she could not escape the reality of her background
She pointed it out actually
Megsie forced her mother out of the car blocks before the church so Doria would not detract from her.
@@alexandradane3672 Please Don't insult the Mexicans ... 😅😂
"We let her down", that's absolutely bullcrap!!! Paula wake up cause you're spewing bullcrap!
I think it is more like this Paula thing let down all black people when she insists on continuously spewing crap in her support of methane.
Trevor needs his own show, what a top tear guest… ❤❤
Morgan Freeman said it Best. When he said we'll never get over "racism" so long as we're talking about race...
God bless Sir Trevor Phillips and his family 🙏
My mind immediately went to GTA 5
A great panel! No shouting, just clever exchanges, I really enjoyed it
Genesis 50:20 What the Devil meant for Evil, GOD will turn it fir Good..🙏🏼
Much respect for Sir Trevor Phillips!! First I've heard or seen him but it's love at first sight. Finally an authentic, balanced, good person
Piers, could you please do a long form uncensored piece with Sir Trevor Phillips? I'd love to hear yourself and Trevor discuss more topics like these
I wish you had more time on this subject. I could listen to Sir Trevor and Piers all day.
Sir Trevor yes,Paula no!
@@tharris114
I agree with you. That was supposed to be Piers and Sr Trevor.
You mean a white man and black man both rejected by the black community
Most folk who deny Racism do love Trevor , pretty much what this programme proved.
Peirs is a chameleon
I am personally fed up hearing MM being referred to as black, she is not black she is mixed race. Being referred to as black denies her white side which I think is not a fair representation of her. If she must be categorised by her colour then do so correctly.
Exactly!
Since MM is American her race follows "the one-drop rule" which states if any black ancestry then. one is considered Black.
The one drop rule is an outdated load of nonsense. She has a white parent and a black parent so she is biracial
@@cherylthomas1268 Nope.
Completely agree!
I lived in England during the 70s i was born and raised in India.. as i went to England I was only seventeen.. i went alone for higher education .. all through my time there i was alone but never felt lonely .. never ever experienced racism i had white boyfriends.. many many friends..i was never lonely.. i was always welcomed by their families even extended families.. now i live in the USA .. for 44 years .. but i still miss England.. i went to England a teenager who couldn't speak english fluently .. i completed Master degree.. english education and society made me a solid young woman .. England gave me who i am today.. f0or that i am forever thankful.. I EXPERIENCED NO RACISM THE WHOLE TIME I LIVED IN ENG❤LAND🎉🎉😢
What amazing man, Sir Trevor Phillips 😊
Find footage of her talking about her "black heritage" before she met Harry!?
Feel free to share the clip/article 😂
It doesn’t exist. She’s an opportunist. When it was beneficial, she embraced it. Before that, no one had a clue.
@@DaisyMaeMoses She "passed as white" so she could be a "famous actress". When that didn't work, she aimed higher.
@@DaisyMaeMoses How do you know?
@@terryl.cooper It's fun to assume things, isn't it.
@@jonhohensee3258 Okay smarty pants, if you must know, I’ve been speaking with Princess Diana and that is what she told me. Mee-Gain isn’t the only one Diana has ghostly talks with. 😆
I do love Sir Trevor Phillips. Such a sane and balanced voice in this increasingly mad world.
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He is they most stupidest black man I have ever herd speak. I got to be British.
This comments of Trevor are hilarious. Even going back 5 years ago he was called terrible names. Now he's a hero. History does change
This guy was regarded as a major racist a few years back....now everyone's loving him. No one seems to remember anything anymore. Must be mobile phone hypnosis😅
She did face racism
Love Trevor Philips could listen to him all day
Sir Trevor Phillips, I appreciate your precise reasoning. It.s so refreshing.
Markle is embarrassed to be biracial, on her resume she said she is Caucasian.
It’s okay if she said that, after all she looks caucasian, but she needs to be consistent and not claim her black heritage only when she wanted to push the racism narrative to trash the royal family.
I am not a MM fan, however in fairess to her and all biracial persons, there was not "a box to ☒ biracial and I don't know if there is now".
@@patsywilliams5570 They have "two or more races" and I think some forms have a biracial box nowadays, but in general mixed race people aren't officially recognised in America. Some are pushing to get their own proper category/categories.
whyd she think she could get away w that lmao
I wish people would stop calling Meghan Markle black. Let's face it, we all had to be *_informed_* that she had black in her...
And at the end of the day black is only a colour it's what's inside that counts
And in reality, who cares what race she is. Who bloody cares? What type of PERSON is she…👎
Sim o proprio charles nao sabia
@@normamcneill151 if black was only a color then she isnt Black...
@@normamcneill151 *_"It's what's inside that counts"_* Yes, indeed. However, that truism might not help her much...
Trevor, a very intellectual, down to earth and respectful black guy! And that’s coming from a white British man. 🙏
Sir Trevor
I don’t think I have ever heard of Sir Trevor before today (I know that when it comes to certain aspects of life, I am totally ignorant, but at least I’m willing to listen and learn). But he is absolutely wonderful and he was very measured and genuine…he was also pretty funny as well. I agree with the first one who commented here, I could also listen to him speak all day too.
Same here never heard of him but so good talking like want listen to him
This woman is way off and exactly what is the problem. Standing up for someone who's using others for her own personal gain. THIS WOMAN IS DISGRACEFUL!
Agree!!
@@lourdesgreen2213the wife didn't want or cares about being black. It didn't work for her then but it sure does now!
Paula is always the same. Gaslighting same as Megzilla.
Yes she is always the same whatever show she goes on. Shocking.
She has no argument. Everything she says has been debunked.
Finally, I hear some people say my thoughts. As in my biracial marriage it was normal on both sides to anticipate and discuss how the newest baby was going to look. MM threw that way out of proportion.
Yeah as the expectant parent you would wonder yourself, I don't feel it was in any way to offend her, just a natural curiosity
That's MM's character though, isn't it?
EXACTLY - same as when there's Mediterranean and red-headed Celtic ancestors; the family would happily discuss what traits are likely to arise.
No she didn't because it was Harry who took offence
I was horrified about that race Archie thing … my in-laws and I couldn’t figure out if the new family members will have blue eyes and curly hair like the first one … we never stopped to bet . It wasn’t racist
In interracial relationships, I’ve definitely seen way more backlash and racism from black families towards their non black partners than the other way around.
Liesss
Each generation changes attitudes! I’m 79 and the changes that young people have brought to society’s ideas have been mind blowing! Through Sport, entertainment and education, we have developed a tolerance I couldn’t have foreseen! My mother was not so much, biased or racist, but she would throw out insults depending who offended her, black or white! When I was 11, I babysat for a black lady with a 6 month old baby. She was a nurse, her husband was still in Jamaica and she needed help, so I offered to look after her baby so she could go on a night shift. I told my mum and she went mad, so I took the baby to my home and my mum went out of her way to make the baby comfortable and even had her sleep in her bedroom! When baby Angela was sent to her grandparents in Jamaica, both me and Mum cried!
After that, she changed and became far more tolerant and even befriended Angela’s mother. It’s like ‘Try before you buy’ = get to know people before you judge!
Young people make up their own minds and if, as parents, we love them, we learn to accept their choices. There are so many mixed race marriages these days, it’s stupid to keep old prejudices alive - especially when children come along! They are barely aware now, of the prejudice their grandparents felt and I couldn’t be happier knowing my family are free of any kind of racial or religious bias!
Sorry for the long response, but I hate people constantly trying to rebuild ‘racism’! 🇬🇧❤️🇬🇧
I could listen to Sir Trevor Phillips all day, he just says it as it is
Agreed mate. Wasn't a fan back in the day but Sir Trevor is a well balanced and talented commentator! Fair play to him.
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Gary - Really? What the heck does "learn to be black" even mean???
I agree with his balanced and intelligent views. As someone who is mixed race, people like Paula are destroying years of integration with their constant attack on British historical figures and picking holes in our society. These feminists never discuss the sinister side of the black historical figures. For instance: Nelson Mandela did some wonderful things to bring about change, but he was a wife beater and almost killed his wife. How should we label him?
He was rejected by the black community decades ago
Thank you for speaking truth, Trevor!
Trevor you described my parents experience who are Irish ! It’s not any different but you put it down as racism!! This doesn’t mean a culture of society is racism .
Sir T Phillips comments are so on point . I love the question on is Britain racist when Sir T Philip asks “compared to what” - he put that answer into context - a great response!!!
Sir Trevor Philips is brilliant
Love Sir Trevor Philips and he’s the ONLY reason I’m here.
What a lovely man Sr Trevor is. If there were more people who thought like him the world would be a better place to live. 🐝🐝🇳🇿
Sir Trevor I salute you.
Sir Trevor is an eloquent man. He nailed smegaliar skidmarkle perfectly
@@HomeEduSchool everyone has an opinion of her based on piers morgan and an Oprah interview. Morgan just can't help himself, it's starting to look like a vendetta
Hello SUGAR. Piers is not a liar .
KE - How did he nail her?
Smeg 😂😂
@@bereal6590you sound surprised that a journalist is banging the same drum. Of course he will continue to talk about her. Look at the ratings. Same can be said about the media outlets and their distaste to Trump. That is certainly a vendetta
Totally agree with the gentleman who said, "she had to learn how to be black". Meghan didn't grow up or live her life around black people. Her friends were almost exclusively white, and her preferences steered her toward white men whom she dated and married. I wouldn't have known she had any black in her until I saw her mom.
It was a ridiculous thing for him to say. What does "being black" even mean??? Why did she have to learn to be it? Couldn't she just be herself, whoever that is?
@@jonhohensee3258 Because until Meghan decided to use BLM etc as a weapon (and to profit from) she had no idea what being black meant since she had always lived as a white person.
@@jonhohensee3258 she was herself. Her behaviour and arrogance was the problem.
@@beverley6140 Her behavior? Well that's nice and vague. How was she arrogant?
And still... why did she have to learn to be black?
@@jonhohensee3258Examples of arrogance: not accepting the rules that other women who've married into the RF comply with and don't whine about. i.e. she ought to be paid for her time on walkabouts with the public on a Royal tour to Australia with Harry. Treating members of staff allocated to her office with abuse. Refusing to accept the help of the now Sophie, Duchess of Edinburgh whom the late Queen Elizabeth 11 had asked Sophie to do, for showing Meghan 'the ropes'. Meghan refused that. She shouldn't have because Sophie was once in Meghan's shoes having married Prince Edward - a newcomer to life within the RF and knew all the protocols required. Meeting the now Prince and Princess of Wales for the first time, barefoot wearing ripped jeans and a t-shirt. The Queen herself took Meghan with her on a public engagement. Of course, Meghan wore neither stockings or a hat. The Queen overlooked it since Meghan was new to her role. The Queen overlooked Meghan walking in front of her to meet the public at the same engagement. Meghan didn't think it important to learn the national anthem - the most simple of anthems anywhere in the world.
I did not mention anything about 'learning to be black'. You must have been confusing my post with someone else's.
Trevor is a lovely man - Sir Trevor
Trevor is a great orator and I could listen to him all day. The rubbish that Paula comes out with, about reparations is ridiculous. We need to keep going forward together, to stamp out Racism from all sides, because we all know that hatred and extremist views poison all races and cultures. If Russia invaded us, would be all run into different areas, based on the colour of our skin or religious beliefs?? We would stand together to protect what little freedom we have left?
Am American and British and Uk is not THAT racist !!! Of course racist exist everywhere , but frankly it really is a liberal society .
but neither is the US. i don’t see why people say the US is so racist, it’s just more race aware.
And by racism, most of the normal people understand it us against all races, including against white people. Not the bullshit leftist narrative redefining words to suit their push for power and control
mregg - racists
The world outside the whhyte West is a brutal, corrupt, unjust, unsympathetic, vicious, hopeless, sh**hole. NO ONE CARES. Just the way globalists and hustlers like it. Tired of hearing from losers. Dont have to explain the US, which was founded by and for Western European protestants. Dont want to hear from these people either. Maybe they could address the endless horrors of blaq run countries.
@@anonthemouse5422the problem is that Americans are obsessed with race. It’s such a prominent subject and everyone bangs on about it. Here in the uk race is rarely ever spoken about or discussed as it’s not even a factor in day to day life like it is in America.
The black community should be outraged with what she's done.
Sir Trevor: what an exceptional man.
What about the vile racist abuse that Mixed Race and Black footballers suffer online when they miss penalties or are perceived to have cost their countries/clubs a game?
What about the racist abuse Saka continues to suffer online from so called multi-cultural Arsenal fans?
Racism is alive and well but maybe less overt than it used to be.
I went for an interview in Barbados a few years ago. I was a registered nurse in UK and Barbados and I was told at a clinic in Holetown ( we have our oun nurses} I was white and to be honest racists are in all countries
So what? Probably copying racism in England!! Get over yourself!
Google the definition of racism! There was no racism towards you!! You were discriminated against.
Was white? Lol😅
@@43veronathat IS racism.
Discrimination BASED ON COLOUR.
@@43verona Maybe you should look up in a dictionary the definition of racism. The definition of racism is to discriminate against someone based on there race/ethnicity or skin colour.
I’m a white Canadian woman who dated a black man for 12 years and there were many instances of racism I had to deal with in that relationship and it came from all races.
I was in a mixed relationship. The most hate I got was on the streets of Peckham, London was from black girls. This was the year 2000. In other areas we received absolutely zero negative reactions.
Walking in London streets with one or other of my Black friends, passing Black people would smile warmly or say hi to my Black companion *who they didn't know* and ignore me as they always did. Racism? Tribalism? Or what?
@@hannannah1uk yea I used to get that too. As the only white person in the group, we would travel to countries and they would always greet /wave at others of their race. I was never acknowledged in the conversation, either just totally ignored or just over looked until the end.
@@clararob9869 and yet we are called racist.
@@clararob9869lies
I wouldn’t mind unpacking with Sir Trevor - handsome man
First time to watch and hear Sir Trevor Philipps, he is soooo right about racism.
Love it how Trevor had Paula scrambling for words to defend Megan. Who did she had to confront, give me one name? Paula still haven't answered the question. 😢
Paula is disgraceful
They didn't even let her speak!
It's because Paula CAN'T answer the question. There is no one in prison, there has not been one court case where Meghan confronted her 'attacker'. Not one. Are we talking about bots and trolls? They're not real.
@@swannoir7949 Oh Paula speaks. She is quite persistent, it's that everything she says has no actual facts and when pressed, she can never actually answer the question. WHO is in prison? WHO did Meghan confront?
@@swannoir7949 lol, didn't they?
More of this kind of discussion please. Sir Treavor and Richard were wonderful guests!
Love Sir Trevor, common sense goes a long way
Great show! Tell the lady in your panel to come live in the States for a couple of months and she''ll have a real chance of "confront[ing] racism." Thank you.
Meghan was not raised in a black culture, nor was she ever financially strapped (despite her comments about eating salad bar as that was all they could afford). Her father was an award winning lighting designer who sent her to expensive schools for her entire education, including one of the most expensive universities in the US. She was raised by her white father with her white step siblings, despite claiming that she was an only child, and her father supported his ex-wife in, as the speaker said, "the most expensive black" area of LA. Doria's family tree shows white and "mulatto" ancestors (the word on the chart, not mine), so Doria is "mixed." Meghan didn't list "Black" on any of her known documents (including her resumes), and she after her various cosmetic surgeries, etc. she does not appear black. If she had not made a big deal of race and skipped the spray tan sessions she as recently adopted, she would never have been identified as "black" by the while population in the US; I can't speak for the UK. There is no reason that she shouldn't identify as "black." It is just odd that this is something she started when she began dating Harry.
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It was an American invention to have the “one drop rule” where even one drop of a person’s blood classified them as black! It is an American tradition to identify mixed race people who have black parentage as black. Also the UK press were the ones who made a big deal about her being black which is why she started talking and identifying as black then, as it was more or less in her face. She also got death threats etc from racist individuals and groups. I don’t know what “being raised in a black culture means” (or what being “financially strapped” has to do with it) - she was raised in a home with a black mother (and presumably has black extended family).
@@jujutrini8412 her black mother was absent for most of her childhood, so really, she was raised by her white family.
Meghan would never be classed as Caucasian in any Commonwealth nations. She is mixed race or as Americans say bi racial. They can even tell if you have tiny bit of black in you. When Harry took her on the Pacific tour people were happy that Harry married a half caste girl but never Caucasian or white.
She was raised by her father and mother at times ,her father made the money no doria ,and he is the one who paid for her private catholic schools 🤷🤷♀️ also for some reason doria wasn't around in her teen years,she appeared again after high-school 😎🤫
MM had threats? Racial and death threats ,well I'm sure she did fir some crazy individuals,every celebrities has those nasty ,evil comments time to time, celebrity status comes with a price ,people will adore you or simple you will be dislike
or hate it 🤷🤷♀️😎, but meghan malarkey for her "docuseries " look for those comments online and exaggerated because that's what she does 🤷🤷♀️😎 in sure all the celebrities have haters and vile comments " threats "
I've always respected and enjoyed listening to Sir Trevor Philips, so I'm not ignoring his intellect by saying that he is becoming even more handsome each year.
also seems very dignified.
I am not from the UK originally, and have to admit I haven’t heard of him before. However, I very much enjoyed his well-reasoned arguments and outlook.
Lol! He is rather lovely. And, yes, getting better with age. 😍
@@Fee_V he’s pretty gorgeous AND intelligent ❤️
Really enjoyed listening to Sir Trevor and I agree that the Harry and Meghan squandered a great opportunity. As always, Paula promotes racism.
Sir Trevor was spot on. 👏👏
What a great discussion! We need more like this … especially here in the USA.
We've been having discussions here. You just weren't paying attention or didn't gaf.
US is basically British. Yes, there is a need here in the US, but it is an international problem. Some places much worse for all citizens in some countries. The rumbles now are a reaction to the hugely changing face of power. People of color are on the rise and we need to adjust and support our future leaders (esp of color).
@@scpsoto1576darling american isn't Britain 😂😂😂😂
Exactly every black family wonders about the skin tone of a expectant baby. In a white family you wonder about their eye color their hair color they'll be tall if they'll be short. People are excited and curious and wondering what the baby will look like It's a normal conversation
The answer to this 10 plus in a teacup is simple. There is no racist in the royal family Megan wanted to cause trouble. Megan wanted to hurt the Queen because the Queen said no to them being half in and half out.
Someone innocently out of curiosity said. I wonder how dark your baby skin will be. Megan blues had up to be this horrible. Awful racist, nasty mean-spirited comment.
Total bull manure.
And now megan threw her licks biddle is bringing it up again.
She is viciously jealous of Catherine. Charles won't give in to her black mail or demands. So she is trying to destroy the monarchy Give petsuland spoiled princess Pinocchio cannot be Queen. Then katherine should never be queen. That's how her demanded mind works.
They gave the information to scooby doo meeting in some Beverly Hills hotel and passing hard copy paperwork back-and-forth. So it couldn't be traced electronically. But people in the hotel notice. There are eyewitnesses to the 3 of them in Kahului Tang and out and passing parcels. And packages back-and-forth. Hi, sincerely believe Meghan wrote the book end game. It's pouring written. It's word salad and it's so full of an across sea and lies. It reeks of Meghan and Harry.
we let her down no darling she let herself down
Paula shouldn’t be in this intellectual panel. She’s so biased and what a liar too!
My Irish parents came over at the same time and experienced much of the Same racism☘️
Paula feels she has to defend Markle .
She’s towing the line in case other blacks that support Markles turn on her.
That’s how it works
I’m black. I know
She has no courage
She is a coward
Who the heck is this Paula sugar anyways? What does she do that is so important that she is asked to comment on anything. She's just got a one tracked mind and perpetual blinkers on. Racist racist, everyone is racist against blacks, I must always say that even though I don't fully believe it. That seems to be her only mantra.
Certain black people just refuse to logically see things as they really are, they just seem intent to be perpetual victims no matter what, just like methane - nothing will ever do, does not matter what anyone says or do.
Also, Biden would tell her she isn't black if she doesn't support Megan. I'm black and think she's an absolutely disgrace. I'm not sure what is the point of her.
If this program was American some would label sir Trevor as an uncle Tom, because Americans see Blacks as a collective group rather than individuals who can have different opinions.
@@privatename4786being called an uncle tom isn't even an insult to anyone who knows about the story of uncle tom, just goes to show how poorly informed people truly are. Lol
What annoys me is people that get a living from promoting racism. If this woman shut up about it what would she do? She has to be in the conversation that "racism exists" and therefore sees it everywhere.
Her job description is race hustler... USA is full of them these days
cannot recall an interview when talk contributor and lawyer Paula Rhone-Adrien had a conversation without calling out past generations for racsim.
Tell that to the tens of thousands of people that have personal experience of it daily. It will continue to be talked about...UNTIL IT STOPS!!!! its that simple...
@@HIP54 Don't you think that's like stopping violence. You can't change every person in the world. All you do is make both sides antagonistic towards each other. Any incident that didn't go your way is put down as racism. Life isn't easy whatever colour you are.
And it’s true, racism is well and Alive, you talk about it, they say you are being woke.stay woke,I experience racism every day In the USA
Could we please borrow Sir Trevor in the US? I think I'm in love with him. 🙂
Our Sir Trevor Phillips would love to go to US and teach MM learning to be black😂
He's a great guy 👍
Exactly don’t blame private schools for putting more effort into the children rather than lazy state schools
To hate someone for their skin colour makes no sense.
Yes, because no one chooses their skin colour.
It comes from a time in our prehistoric history where we had to be cautious about strangers (or people who didn't look like us) encountering our tribe who were different, it was a self protection thing. Now of course we don't need to use theses basic instincts but use higher reason. Only the stupid and uneducated are racist as they are tapping into our prehistoric mentality.
I’m Latina and I was welcomed with open minds when I lived in London in the late nineties. Never experienced any racism in my life until I visited Australia in 1998. I loved it living in the UK🙏
Australia is a very racist country, even towards white people from other countries. Sadly, it hasn't improved much in the last 40 odd years that I've lived here.
You did not live in London in the 1970s or 1980s or even early 1990s. Then, you would have had a different opinion.
Yes, by 1998, New Labour Party took over running the country and resolved the issues with racism.
They basically mad it go underground. London was much better from 1998.
Australia is worse as their society is about 10 years behind.
@@spidyman8853ok?
@@spidyman8853 no, I didn’t live there in the 70’s nor the 80’s. I moved there in 1996. Best country in the world!
Thank you Sir Trevor for speaking common sense in this often-farcical debate.
Sir Trevor Phillips, love his perspective.
As a U.S.citizen, I remember when the Beatles came to tour and they were noticeably less racists than American musicians judging from their interviews.
They refused to perform in segregated stadiums.
I can say as a black Kenyan girl who lived in London for 2 years I can agree that the English are very tolerant.
It's very multi-racial and multi-cultural, just like Canada. In fact, that is where and how Canada adopted its ideals and human rights. No where on earth will ever totally erase racism, especially yo the satisfaction of some deluded idealists. However, democratic countries that were former colonies have a much better grip and attitude on acceptance than most others.
Megan is American, and there are still problems with systemic discrimination there.
She tried to take that history and attitude into the Royal Family and the UK. That was a very foolish and ignorant move on her part. The whole of the Commonwealth was deeply offended and angered by that.
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Tolerant of what exactly?
well said, My views as well, (UK)
@leslie-annmills-gomez8763
Of accepting people and cultures that you weren't raised with. We accept and embrace them and don't demand they leave their culture at the door. It's about mutual respect, and people receive what they give.
Megan does not even know what racialism is. If she did she would have behaved appropriately in our country South Africa.
I've always admired Trevor Phillips for his balanced views.
What amazes me that we are still discussing about "racism", no matter how much time you spend discussing about this issue, it is not going to go away, racism exist in every race,society and it does not matter whether you are black,white,yellow,red,brown or whatever color "we" respresent on this earth,it is not going to go away,we all just have to tolerate,learn to respect each other and move on rather than spending hours and hours discussing about it!
Ur correct.
I guarantee u that anyone with at least one functioning brain cell will understand the humans are tribal by nature and that racism will never just... cease to be. But we're obviously still struggling with the "learning tolerance and respect" shit, which is why these conversations still occur.
Anyone can be racist not just “white people”. I agree. It’s just cultural intolerance.
I totally agree. I am Caribbean-American, and I face racism from African Americans. I am still hurting from the pain that I endured and am still enduring from African-Americans. We need to love one another, and please stop talking about racism so much. African-Americans need to accept all people, and learn to accept differences. I am so sick and tired of trying to speak like African-Americans, so that I can fit in. People should not try to take away one's accent/culture.
@faith261 You make a very correct statement. This is a very good reason why no one should be allowed to appropriate true racism (vs incredulous 4th-hand whispers reported by a person with a history of money grubbing). This grifter is yelling wolf for her own benefit. Its offensive and lowly.
So long as humans exist there will be a caste system. The haves & the have nots. Simple .
Churchill got us through a bloody war and saved our country. I will forever think of him as our war hero, along with our armed forces (including my grandfather) fighting for their family and nation. Those men were our nations best. I will carry that pride without an ounce of guilt or woke washing forever 🏴
Historically and currently, the UK has ways been a racist place. UK, US, Europe. Europe wants their problems to be the world's problems yet the world's problems aren't Europe's problems. A bloody war of the UK's making
I'm Dominican and in Dominican Republic we even have a street name area after Churchill. And also some after Abraham Lincoln etc quite funny
Yes Americans donated numerous lives to take the "beach head'. Normandy! The sheer courage of these men is so unbelievable. I also read extensively on Guadalcanal. That battle was sheer brutality considering it was jungle warfare n malaria took its toll.
when will these people, and I'm referring to the family lawyer Paula, understand that pushing victimhood does no one any favors. Nobody ever climbed the top of any summit, literal or figurative with a victim banner, victim Tiara and an entourage of whiners. Name one.
Sir Trevir was right. This woman had to learn how to be black because she was never treated like a black woman. She used race to her advantage and look what happened to her now. Her husband left the RF, they left UK, non of her kids cousin are close to thir children because her side she doesnt talk to them at all
Listening to that woman speak made me wonder if I was actually watching a parody. She can’t be serious 😂
Maybe people just didn't like her character and like Meghan she would rather believe it was racism for the sake of her ego
Trevor Phillips is such an intelligent and engaging guy.
Not always.
I lived in Brixton in the 1960s , I have never been racist ever , but I have been singled out in public places as a young white person by older black people with racial slurs many times , I am getting very sick of this debate , racism has always been a two way street , so let’s drop the pretence ! As for sending babies back to Jamaica , that was common practice , I worked with a Jamaican women who was expecting her second child , not married to her partner , first baby being raised by her mother in Jamaica , second baby taken to Jamaica to join its sibling , mother claiming single parent benefit and child benefit for years, but children not with her . Many white Brits knew this was going on ! Think this did not help race relations at all. But it’s unlikely anyone would own up to it today . Likely it’s still going on , who knows , I have long since moved out of London . As for families not getting council housing that’s not true , we had two Jamaican families in the street I grew up in , in the late 1950s, big Victorian houses near Tooting Bec , one off larger property was owned by the local council for larger families (none Council estate) records can prove this .
This wind rush story is news to me and many my age , the unions very strong in the 1950s and demanding better pay and conditions , the government action was to ship in cheap Labour to control the unions , as for building back Britain you dam well forget the migrant Irish who did that !
You people make it up as you go along , what I want to know is who is handing you the script !?
Mind Begs the Question:
If a PM/Politician is openly Racist - Not Punished
Citizens are Racist - should be Punished?
This woman needs to move somewhere safe 😂🤣…. she is constantly expressing her disappointment with everything and everyone (what a life wasted on looking for racism around each corner).
As a black American woman, I agree with Trevor on Meghan Markle. As a "white-presenting" mixed person, she did not have to deal with the same type of racism that black people did. She also lived a upper middle class life and attended predominantly white private schools. As an actress she stated in interviews that she did not consider herself black and said she was 'mixed-race'. THAT is the context of her life. For her to use the race card now is disingenuous considering she made it clear she was not black.
Trevor is spot on.
Can I ask, what racism have you experienced?
She cannot control how she is interpreted or perceived. In America she is / was perceived as white or white passing. In the UK, upper society, she is / was perceived as black/ they chose to narrow in and focus on her blackness. I think she's just trying to survive. Yes she's biracial. I am not biracial. I would imagine that with the exception of the UK thing, this is a common experience when you are stuck between two identities/cultures where you don't fit in perfectly. It has nothing to do with the individual and has everything to do with society. It is complex. I find it astonishing that everyone is sitting here commenting on who she is, what she should be, what she didn't do and what she could have done. Who else gets picked on like Meghan. It is absolutely insane.
@@GeekyC She did not bring it up first. Stop it. This dude is saying that she is from an affluent African American community in LA. When the relationship leaked, a tabloid said that she was almost straight out of Compton?! She did not print that. She did not bring up race first. She did not choose to narrow in on her blackness. Society (both) is projecting their BS on her and then wondering why she wouldn’t/couldn’t do better. SMDH. Debate all they want. IMO, there will be no scenario when she will NOT be hounded.
@@NorthLondon-pm6xy She was not supported, so she left. She was not a naive 19 year-old. She was almost 40 with her own success/life experiences. She knows what support looks & feels like. She also knows how to work. I also believe Harry hated his life and wanted to leave anyway. I mean, name a successful spare. They are all destroyed Andrew, Margaret. He probably wanted a different outcome. Harry chose a foreigner with no roots is a society he no longer saw himself in.
@@NorthLondon-pm6xy I agree with this greatly. Some Americans conflate racial issues with class issues. In the States there may be more financial/class opportunities than in the UK but there are heavy racial factors that get muddied into the mix. I too think that Meghan made some bad moves. I also think the royal family are elitists who want to retain their protocol and hierarchy. If a daughter of the peerage (Princess Diana) couldn't make a change what makes Meghan think she was going to make one? There are no innocents in this cluster.
Good Morning Piers, so good to see Sir Trevor twice in recent times. THANK YOU 💐. Thank you also for making it to the cricket, look at the name of the place✝️and your Fire Cracker friends too, I could hardly get you to a place of worship, that would be too much like hard work 😂. You three plus I making to Wood Lane on the following Monday Morning should have put an end to that horrid energy. (Yes I scattered soil).
Am married a man from a beautiful Aussie family. Had never had any racism issues from his family and extend family including my inlaws friends. But my own blacks african people are racist .black are racist but is not news. This doesn't mean meghan has not face racism in the RF. The RF been queit doesn't mean they are innocent.
Love Sir Trevor. He sees things for what they are.
Love or hate him, Piers hosts great panels.
Why would you hate him?
Never forget how he treated the Unvaccinated.
@@Covid-me1xf Okay. I won't.
Thank you Sir Trevor for not letting that race baiter in the middle win ......
I just turned 60 and honestly can’t believe this still exists in any shape or form.
Archie and Lily are now as titled prince and princesses. Case close regarding Meghan’s claims regarding royal racism and this proves her lies in OW interview. In addition Harry stated this in Tom Bradby interview “Right, wouldn’t you describe that as essentially racist?” Tom asked, to which Harry said, “I wouldn’t, not having lived within that family.” Harry said so himself that the royal family is not racist and in OW interview, both Meghan and Harry stated that the conversation was with Harry. Harry should know if that conversation was racially motivated or now. Both Meghan and Harry have been proven to tell porkie pies repeated over the past few years
There was a very serious accusation of racist comment allegedly made by one of the royal family member during OW interview but my problem with her accusation was the vagueness of her accusation without context of the conversation or naming of the specific perpetrator noted in the accusation. For example, a mixed race family often will speculate on the hair colour, skin colour, the eye colour of the baby without any sinister intent. Speculating the skin colour does not mean that it was racist. Did they twist the context to make it sound more sinister than it actually is? The reason that I am bringing this up is because, she has done that twisting the truth, misleading the audience to fit her victim narrative repeatedly through out the interview. She had more than 10 factual inaccuracies through out the interview. Another concern with this point of racism accusation is the fact that Meghan gave the account of having multiple conversations about Archie’s skin colour during the pregnancy but Harry’s account of this is different from Meghan. He stated that it was only one conversation prior to their marriage and he was even vague about it by changing the subject to the fact that his family wanted Meghan to continue to act because there was not enough money for her. So I wonder on accuracy or truthfulness of their accusation. Both of them proved to be misleading with a lot of their later statements and in my view, if you lie once a lot of your claim’s credibility gone out the window.
I also do not believe that the British senior royal family members are racist. Both Charles and William are well travelled and have met countless people from all different walks of life including world leaders, people of different ethnic background. With those experiences came worldly wisdom and knowledge. Prince Phillip famously poured a glass of cordial to the black White House butlers and had a conversation as equals to those butlers. The Queen was a friend of Nelson Mandela and famously had direct line of contact with him whenever one wants to talk to the other. Both the Queen and Prince Phillip had danced with black leaders and hosted events to black Commonwealth leaders over the years until their final years serving the country. They are all busy with their own schedules that include royal engagements, Duchy’s financial dealings, learning the rope for the future monarchical role, decision makings regarding modernising monarchy, looking after their own young family in the case of William. Their plate is full with things to be concerned with already that they have no time to worry about Harry’s and his biracial wife’s baby skin colour for which they cannot change or do anything about. It is just absurd to suggest what Meghan suggested in the OW interview.
Another thing to note is that the royal family allowed Harry to marry a biracial woman who is as light as a Caucasian and yet the royal family is supposed to be concerned with the colour of the baby who will be lighter than his/her mother by logic. I mean what will be the point of the royal family concerning over the baby’s skin colour when they already accepted the biracial mother into the family knowing that she will have a baby to Harry? It just does not make sense.
There was an insinuation that Archie was not given the title prince and HRH due to possibility of his skin colour. That is a total BS. The thing is Archie not being given the royal title is due to 100 year old George V protocol and it is nothing to do with his skin colour. George V protocol states that only up to grandchildren of the Reigning Monarch and in direct line to the throne thereafter is allowed to have HRH and prince title. Archie as a great grandchild is not eligible for the title. Anyone can understand that and Meghan as a somewhat smart person should understand that very easily. She twisting things is very clear with this.
There was also insinuation that Archie was not given protection due to his skin colour. Again, Meghan twisting things to suit her own agenda. Andrew’s 2 daughters do not get royal protection, so as Princess Anne’s and Prince Edward’s children. It is not surprising that Harry’s children will not get royal protection either as he is not direct line to the throne. Yes it is harsh but it is the monarchical system and Harry should be aware of that since he was born into the system. Again nothing to do with Archie’s skin colour.
Meghan stated that she only wanted Archie to get the title prince so that he can have security. Again, Eugenie and Beatrice are titled princesses and HRH and yet they are not eligible for royal security protection. Princess Anne and Prince Edward(Count of Wessex) have prince and princess titles and HRH and yet they only have the royal security while doing royal duties/public engagement and not 24/7 security. The decision of who get the security in the royal family is not made by the royal family themselves but from RAVEC for the Metropolitan Police department. This discussion about Archie not getting the security linked to his skin colour should not have been made from the start as that decision is nothing to do with the royal family. This security was provided courtesy of the UK tax-payers and after they chose to step back from positions of working for the people of the UK as working royals, they are not entitled to the security.
There was also insinuation that Royal family was racist. If that is the case then, I don’t understand why would Prince Charles spent $3million out of his own pocket to pay for their extravagant royal wedding with the blessing of the Queen and walked Meghan down the aisle. It would have been easier to disagree to the wedding from the start. They were given royal titles as a wedding gifts. No privileges were spared to them. She was the first fiancee along with her mum Doria to spend Christmas at Sandringham with the royal family and the first royal woman to go on royal train with the Queen for royal engagement mere weeks after her wedding. Even Kate, future Queen Consort, was not given these privileges. Some very ungrateful and disgraceful 2 some.
💯 agree ,
Can we stop talking about race for ones. I am black & I have never experienced any racism in the UK. I am tired of those who use the r word loosely and the constant chat about race.
P.s Migration control has nothing to do with race either 🤦
A voice of wisdom : )
So you haven't experienced it so it doesn't exist
@@leslie-annmills-gomez8763 None of my family, friends, people I went to school with, college, University or I work with ever addressed having racism problems. So who are they interviewing to speak for the rest of us? I am Somali & I get more discriminated by other Somali about my tribe in the UK & the only time I was ever bullied about being Somali was by Jamaicans in Schools in the 90s. Prejudism is a human problem that we all need to work on but I refuse to ever accept white brits are racist because that's 100% lies.
well said m8 and slso the ones that claim that have usually got in with bad groups , committed crimes , joined gangs then play the race card to absolve themselves of any responsibilty
@@ozzylinkyou’re deluded😂what planet do you live in, white brits are racist you are just naive and deluded to see it only because you apparently haven’t experience it. Maybe if you actually had a racist experience from them you wouldn’t be licking their ass, there’s been plenty of incidents where they have been racist to blacks. Wake up
Windrush was VOLUNTARY. Nobody forced anyone onto the ships to come here.
In 1952 I lived in a council house and our neighbours were from Pakistan. Their 3 year old daughter was my best friend until we lost touch when we left school.