If Alchemist is any indication, that's optimistic. To their credit, Intel's come a lonnnng way since that launch. But they still have a long way to go.
Amd deserved to be kicked in their ass especially after they milking their consumer with the same cpu and gpu but rebrand it as new gen so they can mislead people and sell their old rebranded products with higher price, hopefully Intel keep bringing heat o competition because it benefits all of us who are consumer.
"We at Intel are proud to announce, our previous 7 nm process node which we renamed to 3 nm has now been rebranded to Intel 1 nm. This represents an impressive update to marketing collateral and promotional materials that will keep Intel on par with the industry standard" - Intel Executive, probably
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"Hardware Canucks" preproduction unit review of Zenbook 14 with ULTRA 7 155H. It is the FASTEST video editing machine even ar 25 Watt total SoC power limit and way better than any AMD 4nm/5nm APU.
This aged well. Intel is a dumpster fire in Q2 2024 due to 13th and 14th gen stability issues. What good is having the fastest chip if it only lasts 6 months?
This isn't true. I've had a Core i7-14700 since February. Only installed patched microcode version 2 days ago. I have ZERO problems with the CPU. I have never overclocked the CPU (just the IMC since I overclock the RAM to 5600MT/s). The CPU has been rock solid. Wish I could say the same about my 4060 Ti 8GB...
Memory latency chart is simplified to the point of incorrect. The difference between L1 and L2 is pretty large (as in 3x/4x difference). And the difference between L3 and DRAM is even larger. So, from L1 to DRAM, we are not talking a x3 advantage, but more something like x30 advantage. A massive difference.
@ennio5763 I'm well aware of the latency differences, maybe you're new to my channel. The point of the illustration was to explain near memory compute to as wide an audience as possible. The system is hypothetical.
9:50 This guy has no idea what he is talking about, yet again...says "probably Samsung" with two giant Micron logos on the memory chips. Why would I trust and pay attention to anything else said in this video if such obvious mistakes are not spotted before release?
Yet it's still probably Samsung.... From that leaked engineering sample photo the discussion is mainly about what Intel is doing there, the memory chips are outsourced from another company, they literally used the closest 2 memory chips they had lying around for that engineering sample, for the final product there will be an agreement on volume of sales and price of the chips and Intel will go with the price/performance they can get and that might be from any of the memory manufacturers around and once they get this deal done they just get the chips and install them into their volume production products. The fact that the engineering sample has micron chips on it says nothing about what the manufacturer of the RAM on the final product will be, it only says that there will be RAM. The manufacturer can literally change the day before final volume production or even during production and they can also source the RAM chips from multiple manufacturers at the same time and have products with RAM from both Micron and Samsung concurrently in volume production.
I came to this video after getting offered another of his videos, that aged like milk " 2D vs 3D Stacking: Intel’s plan to beat Zen 2 " And it looks like the same type of video Even the fact that he's saying that L1/L2 at 10ns(last true in 2001 with early Pentium4 designs), RAM at 30ns latency instead of 60, so he can show a smaller gap between L3 and RAM latency Not sure if mis-informed and incompetent clickbait, or paid troll.
you NVidia zombies made it so. their gaming improvement is small now, chips only have so much room. more and more transistors for ai and shit. besides gatekeeping upscaler, gamers are fucked.
Well, Nvidia got stuck on monolothic. It keeps them the lead at the moment. But question is if sticking too long to monolithic won't just loose them the lead in the long run. One or two generations ahead.
Don't blame Nvidia, it's the consumers that put Nvidia in the position it's in to abuse this position, and Nvidia are going to milk it for all it's worth unless consumers change tactics. At the end of the day, the only thing Nvidia cares about is profit margins and sales, unless those change in a negative way for them, expect them to continue to screw over their fans.
hype up alder lake -> hype up raptor lake -> meteor lake can't even come to desktop -> hyper up arrow lake -> hype up lunar lake -> finally shut up and wait and see????
Alder Lake and Raptor Lake were brilliant. and Meteor Lake with integrated ARC graphics have finally beaten AMD's iGPU performance for the first time in many years.
@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVEBS, MTL iGPU doesn’t beat AMD. Intel sent laptops to reviewers with LPDDR5-7800 to inflate GPU performance. The LPDDR5-6400 on stock laptops will yield 10-15% worse performance.
Mea@JoeL-xk6bo You Amdumbs fanboy happy to see grandma Lisa Sucks milking you fanboy with the same cpu and gpu like radeon 6500xt, 5500xt, ryzen 5500u, 8700g. How pathetic !
Mea@JoeL-xk6bo You Amdumbs fanboy happy to see grandma Lisa milking you fanboy with the same cpu and gpu like radeon 6500xt, 5500xt, ryzen 5500u, 8700g. How pathetic !
@@tringuyen7519 And now the MSI Claw handheld is the latest lie. No 32GB of RAM and the memory speed on MSI's web page says 4800 while it is advertised all over having 6400. Intel products strategy is unreliable and so is how they present performance. Ever since hiring Ryan Shrout, known liar.
Five months later and man has been an Oracle. People are trashing Zen 5 for trending to be worse than the 7800X3D at launch, and the 15% uplift for Arrow Lake while unconfirmed at the moment could be tracking.
They are actually doing pretty good, in laptops especially. I'd say their products are about on par with AMD, if you ignore iGPU. Also remember that people, especially in business setting, are highly biased towards intel. I've been observing that market, most business laptops bought en masse by corpos are intel laptops, which is also reflected by machines available on the used market.
9:51 This is clearly a Micron logo on the DRAM package. From the package etching itself, MT62F1G64D4AH-023 WT Micron part number states this is an 8GB LPDDR5 and not LPDDR5X package.
Given your track record with predictions, i take it that AMD is gonna buldoze Intel. Btw you should tell your buddies at urcdekeys that their office prices are insane.
if their fabs and architecture isn't good, it just isn't good. That's what killed off all other in house fabs/chip makers or made them change their business over the years. Every new frontier of technology more and more fall of, intel have fallen off. More and more they rely on TSMC for ALL new important chips. Their own fabs are making more third party product for other companies now.
@@JoeL-xk6boThe fact their fabs are making more products for other companies than they are making Intel products shows that the fabs are doing great, it's the design teams that are sucking air. Sad.
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No, the design team doesn't suck. The Intel fabs don't have the capability of making their best products. That is why they rely on TSMC. The products they fab for themselves and others are on lesser nodes.@@benjaminoechsli1941
When was the last time Intel didn't delay by an entire year? When was 10nm supposed to launch as opposed to when it actually launched? Wasn't Alder Lake supposed to up-end AMD's hold on the market? Wasn't Meteor Lake supposed to be this huge efficiency increase and a big jump in IPC? When has Intel actually lived up to their promises in the last half decade? 10nm is just 14nm all over again.
Considering that 14900K isn't much faster than the 12900K that 15900K has to be more than 20% faster or it's going to be another embarrassment for Intel 😂 also AMD doesn't sit still and at least for me it doesn't matter what Intel comes out with because I'm already on AM5 😁😁
The next Intel chips are Arrow Lake, which is an entirely new architecture, that eschews Hyper-Threading entirely. It's going to be incredible for single-threaded/latency-sensitive tasks. You can't compare the 14900k vs 12900k (basically the same design) to the 15900k vs 14900k. The single-threaded performance of the 15th gen will be nuts.
@@adi6293 No, you're not getting my point. The 15900K absolutely will be over 20% faster than the 14900K. It's an entirely new architecture, where as Raptor Lake was not much different to Alder Lake (both great architectures mind you). It is going to have blazingly fast IPC, and no Hyper-Threading, the largest architectural change since the first gen i7's nearly 15 years ago.
@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE I'm old enough to remember stuff like Pentium 4 and Buldozer, new isn't always better that's why I will believe it when I see it 😜
@@adi6293 And I'm old enough (32 years old) to remember my first family PC having Windows 3.1, and my cousin having Windows 95 that could run DOOM 95, Dark Forces, Descent, and Blade Runner! Pentium 4 in the early 2000s was a blessing for me.
It's good to hear that Battlemage has a whole lot of hands working on it, especially with rumors that, as you say, Battlemage is just going to purely be a midrange desktop launch. If they took it easy this year, and hit hard with Celestial, they could take some market share!
Amd deserved to be kicked in their ass especially after they milking their consumer with the same cpu and gpu but rebrand it as new gen so they can mislead people and sell their old rebranded products with higher price, hopefully Intel keep bringing heat to competition because it benefits all of us who are consumer.
You are watching to much of Moore's law is dead lmao that guy will delete all of his videos that he talk trash about Battlemage like he always do when he's wrong@@tringuyen7519
Yes it is, it is not real competition, but it is what we have. For real competition you need private property anarchy, private law societies and no IP laws.
Seems like we've been hearing this for years and they never deliver. I'd be more interested if they were ditching e-cores this time around because it's telling that they still can't come close to AMD efficiency if they're relying on e-cores again
Why they abolish HTreading? I am still on coffee lake 8700K with NO any performance issues, only the internal intel GPU struggling during 4K video play, but this GPU was basically for free!! BTW: +20% + 18 % + 15% would total almost +63%, not +53%!! Basic arithmetics!
Security reasons. It turned out it's much much easier to hack something that's using HT especially if multiple programs are running at once. At least that's what I've heard.
Less silicon and complexity of the core, and then can add more IPC with the silicon budget. At least this is my hypothesis, Intel doesn't really need hyperthreading anymore because they have e-cores. If they can get much more ipc without hyperthreading i think its the right thing to do. Hyperthreading is a hack to make hardware more productive but interleaving instructions adds complexity to the core. It was a cheap tradeoff at the time, but with e-cores it makes sense they push the P-cores for maximum IPC and leave multicore tasks for e-cores
Remember Alder Lake announcement at CES 2021 which launched later that year? Anything they announce at CES comes along as they said. So you'll see Arrow Lake and Lunar Lake this year. As for Battlemage no official announcement has been made yet but it is expected to come out this year as well.
@@Patrick73787 Remember Alchemist announcement in Q1 2022 for Q1 2022? But it launched late September 2022 with only 1 card, not the previously promised 4 cards. Also Meteor Lake was promised since 2021, but then cancelled for desktop 2 years later. So we'll see if Intel actually releases anything this year, their announcements never meant anything in the last years.
@@Patrick73787 Intel also announced Alchemist in Q1 2022 launching in Q1 2022. It arrived half a year later with a highly cut down line up. Maybe there will be paper launch in Q4 and actual availability in Q2 next year then. We'll see.
@@nipa5961 You're comparing their CPU division where they had decades of experience to their newly formed GPU division. At this point in time we know why Alchemist got delayed. It had nothing to do with hardware manufacturing. The software team simply wasn't ready. What they learnt with Alchemist is now benefiting the iGPU in Meteor Lake and we're hoping it will be the same for Battlemage.
Intel is definitely on the right path with the Meteor and especially Lunar Lake focusing on the efficiency and squeezing all the chip components including RAM on the same package. With continuous improvement of the chip logic and advances in chip manufacturing as well as next GPU architecture Intel can take AMD's spot for low power efficient SoCs with very decent integrated GPUs. AMD should watch out and answer to that and not wait because it can be eventually too late.
You should see the MLID Intel Battlemage expectation leak released this week. It could barely complete with AMDs current gen, but when you consider that it will face AMDs next gen, Intel may have to sell Battlemage at a loss.
I'll take a slower than Zen5 Intel chip if it had a power reduction of 53%. CPU performance isn't that big of a deal in 1440 or 4k gaming, it's the GPU that's important. But Intel's huge power consumption is a problem, that's what they most urgently need to fix, at least to convince me to go back to Intel.
@@HDRPCif only. MacBooks are literally iphone chips on steroids. Intel and to extend amd laptops can barely keep cool while looking at a wallpaper. Apple is a bit ahead with the m -series.
technically seen the optimistic one is 63% increase since 1,2*1,18*1,15 = 1,6284 =163% that is eficiency however, translating efficiency into performance is diferent, since cores get way less eficient at higher clockspeeds, so often with nodesize shrinking the best way to increase total perormance is to add more cores, but that is expensive so often it is in between.
Amd deserved to be kicked in their ass especially after they milking their consumer with the same cpu and gpu but rebrand it as new gen so they can mislead people and sell their old rebranded products with higher price, hopefully Intel keep bringing heat to competition because it benefits all of us who are consumer.
Yeah right. Sintel says every year 'AMD should be worried', yet all the supposedly new intel arch cpu's are just overclocked and power hungry refreshes of the previous generations.
one thing I'd like to see intel address with battlemage is the power consumption. Arc cards use way more power than AMD ones for the same performance class and that's with AMD cards using more than NVIDIA
Arc architecture is a dud people. it uses more power because the performance is shit. for the die size and transistor count of Intel gpus they should be performing like the RX6700XT at least. but they're miles behind that. the architecture suck in rater, but has good (useless for gamers) compute performance. Raja just stole AMD's vega homework and took it with him to Intel lol. Battle mage is delayed and gonna be (maybe) as fast as the RTX 4070/4070S. Intel is done in gpus, their little expirament is a failure.
@@_M.... Meteor Lake iGPU has the same architecture as desktop Arc Alchemist (with some fixes) and Lunar Lake iGPU will have the same architecture as Arc Battlemage. Both will do well. We can already see some of those architectural fixes on Meteor Lake which has a pretty efficient iGPU on par with AMD's current offering. They're already working (as per Tom Peterson) on the 3rd gen Arc Celestial. So this is definitely not an experiment. The only experiment was done on the first gen cards.
@@Patrick73787 buddy they're laptop partners don't even want to make units around their upcoming apu, they're apparently missing the launch window yet again. BM release date and performance targets adjusted yet again. it's not looking good.
Some tech tubers who say they have contacts at the OEM's report that there isn't any talk of battlemage products coming out this year. I hope their wrong and would love to see more competition, I hope Intel manages to surprise us all.
Intel is investing in Fabs because they have to, and are being subsidised by the US government, their Graphics drivers are still very unstable, better, but unusable for many things and are still not certified for business use by HP or Dell, and their software/hardware integration is necessary because of their design choices. Having two different core architectures is fine so long as they use the same ISA, they don't and so the software is there to work around that design choice and to then buff performance just as is done for GPU's with new games, Intel is having to do this for their CPU's, again because of their design choices.
hmm... the ambience is actually different. I'm actually worried about Intel. The mediocre performance (sales) of Arc is making Intel want to re-consider the entire line-up. If Battlemage won't sell as good as AMD GPU's then theres a high chance of cancellation for Intel dGPU's. And no, I don't think BMG will have a tiled design. They could with memory but not with the GPU. They would end up the same as RDNA3 with separate memory. Why? Just look at MTL. As for ARL, its not much of a problem with AMD, specially if its gonna be late again.
Battlemage desktop mid-range and up was cancelled a year ago. Battlemage for mobile and to be used in intels next CPU release "might" also be cancelled because it has been delayed so much that it might not even be ready for the end of the year when the next CPU is to be released with or without Battlemage and Celestial will not be ready either, so things are not looking good on this front for Intel.!
Meh. AMD will be busy in 2024 advancing their processors even farther past what Intel can deliver... in another 5 or 10 years. I haven't been more excited about AMD since they bested Intel and created the x64 instruction set, along with coming out with chips like the Athlon to take advantage of it. Intel is always too ready to rest on its laurels.
nah, having a weaker apu/cpu that is at best in the same level as last year's AMD's APU with higher wattages. AMD will be fine and intel is still stuck in weaker Arch Moores laws dead take on this topic is something to listen. Good take nonetheless
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@@HDRPC Intel marketing numbers with the entire CPU tile disabled and the laptop idling on desktop with sleep and hibernate disabled and literally nothing happening and that nothing is being handled by the two Ultra Low Power cores on the I/O tile. In other words a totally fake "win" repeated at least a dozen times by you via a copy/paste all over these comments.
I hope you’re right. We need more competition. I wonder why none of these guys are competing against Apple’s M ultra series. 800GB/s bandwidth is incredible for ai. Ai enthusiasts are paying top dollar for apples m ultra series and I don’t see any competition in sight for this.
Not a fan of what felt like two product ads in the video, knowing there is a laptop available with two screens (Which are generally terrible because of the portable typing experience) and a gaming handheld with drivers bad for gaming isn't an asset. I'm here to learn about the CPU itself, not 2 random products that have one.
The future of laptop and computer repair is going to be soldering and repairing these devices are going to be heavily dependent on somebody’s skill to diagnose and microsolder at the component level. If you are thinking about getting into computer repair, you have to be considering learning how to diagnose and rework BGA chips.
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Let's be honest, performance from AMD and Nvidia line-up of gpu's from low, mid and high end and Intel from low to mid-end are not at issue, the real issue is the pricing stature of all these cards are not that great value. A mid-range card over $500 isn't mid-range, and if Intel can change anything when it comes to price to performance, great but I'm not convinced yet. Also, as good as the high-end market is to have, it's not where most of the sales are, the low to mid-end makes up the vast bulk of sales, AMD are already in a position to shake that market up but are not doing it, hence why it's market share isn't changing in it's favour, Intel could shake up the low to mid-low end gpu market, but its brand reputation needs to improve, as well as it's drivers before it can make a big impact, maybe with ARC 2, but without any major price slashing to shake up the market, it's hard to get excited about any of this as it's pricing most consumers out, at least when it comes to decent performance, which matters because developers will only target what most can afford. So again, the gpu's that are already on the market are not the issue, the price point is, AMD could change that but they seem unwilling, Intel could, especially with ARC 2, but we'll have to wait and see, being that it looks like these companies are getting used to the fat profits on dgpu sales that unless something forces them, I don't expect much change in the price point. With all that said, the APU market looks far more exciting over the dgpu market, and I would love Intel to do well in the dgpu and APU market but we've heard this so many times already and yet we are still waiting, and honestly, like I said above, the biggest issue isn't performance but the price point when it comes to gpu's, who ever corrects that will very likely gain market share, especially when AMD and Nvidia clearly don't want to do that, and considering that Intel is the underdog in that market, it would do wonders for its market share as well as mind share, AMD are in a position to do it but they went for the greed option and have not gained any market share, in fact, it's lost market share over the last few years. AMD needs to realise that unless you have a better product than your rivals, you can't afford to charge what you are charging for your products and to expect market share to change much, AMD is the underdog in the dgpu market with it's market share and even with it's mind share, that basically means if they want any real traction in the market, they have to be far more aggressive on pricing, and it's even more so for Intel in the dgpu market, and in the meantime, Nvidia is laughing all the way to the bank because it's rivals are not changing anything in the market to force Nvidia to slash prices, which Nvidia will be the last to slash prices, that opens up the door for rivals to eat into Nvidia's market share, but regardless, AMD isn't going to do it, they've had a few years now they could have done it and nothing change, Intel is an unknown, with them, we have to see with ARC 2, once its drivers are more mature and especially when it's new fab plants come online.
I bought into Arc, using an A750 in my HTPC, and A770 in my main gaming PC. Mainly for science. At first, I was having issues, and often a bit annoyed. Now, they both perform up to my expectations. I was using a 1080ti, and 2070super in both PC's before, and actually the Arc's suit the PC's a bit BETTER now. I'm not making youtube videos benching numbers, so if it's smooth playable and looks good, that's all I'm noticing. The 1080ti was having a bit of trouble with newer Dx12 titles, and things just generally not looking proper and buggy sometime on newer titles regardless of it having more pure rasterization performance. The latency feels a lot smaller going from a 2070s to A770, and the RTX performance..Av1 encoding, etc feels a lot nicer on the A770, but it's not a giant difference, mainly just the newer features and better optimization on newer titles. Anyways, I'm very pleased with Arc, and I don't think it's this 'experimental' card anymore. I'd recommend them to anybody that cba to keep on top of driver updates. That's really the biggest annoyance is the constant updating to be caught up. If you can be bothered to do that, they're very acceptable now. HOWEVER. The A750 at $200 flat, pretty amazing value.. The A770 at 310/320.. It should be like....mmm, $279.99 or so. At that price point or even less, it would be a KILLER. I'm just not sure intel can take the losses at that low. If they can lose the 'paid test monkey' aura they have and knock prices down.. I think they can really get some foothold, as well as more marketing.
intel's track records says otherwise.. ill just wait till it comes out and see if they delivered.. and one last thing i would like to disagree is the pricing, i doubt they will give there most advance nodes for 600$ cant expect a multiple node jump 15900k to be priced that way thats too optimistic
@@Marhlder very true. And it is now 3 years since. Meaning results untill now is mainly based on the previous leadership. But this year and next we will start seeing the result of his leadership.
As much as I'd like for Intel to do well for my meager stock holdings, I highly doubt it would be with graphics and definitely not with disaggregated graphics. I just don't think it's possible because of power consumption.
you are aware that "simply" adding two channels of memory requires a bigger socket and makes things much more expensive? And how much more performance 4 instead of 2 channels bring is heavily depending on the game. In worst case you gain nothing and if taking a guess, in best case you can reach maybe 25%. The answer is much simpler: just like AMD introduce a cache tile. Should be not much of a problem now with Foveros. Local memory is always much faster than external memory.
@@johnscaramis2515 You are both wrong and right at the same time :D Most older benchmarks done to "test" quad channel setups were purist, with only the game running and nothing else. The much more usual case though is that you've got 30 tabs open and you're running a bunch of other software in the background while you're gaming. I see the difference on my own rig. You can notice it being snappier than most modern ones even though I'm still on my old trusty 5930K with 64gigs of 2133 DDR4 (oh which 16 are almost constantly used as a RAM Drive). Making a bigger socket is not an issue. Intel made 2011v-3 with no big extra costs, the can do it again.
@@XfStef I simply need to look at the benchmarks comparing Ryzen and Ryzen3D parts. Some games take big benefit, some close to none, some even show regression. Why should this be different with 4 channels vs. 2 channels? And yes, the costs for Intel making a bigger socket are probably not that much. But you forgot the mainboards, a hell lot of more traces. And those traces need to be good enough for DDR5 speeds.
For Battlemage I am watching to see if intel makes a move into the professional graphics market. nVidia and AMD both do a line that basically looks like it pays the salaries of their driver teams profit wise. If intel goes for it their approach may be a bit of shake up there, allowing intel to test out future builds of the consumer chips tech wise and scoop in on the lower end workstation market. For editing and media servers intel is not half bad, they may go after media servers on their road back to the full server market. They have some advantages with Xeon's with "cheap" PCi-E raids on media servers as well. It will be it seems a rough year for them but it will may make things interesting.
I can tell you this man is the ONLY on the tech youtube space that is honest. He has content that has "good opinions" for AMD, but if he sees something he tells, this is not about brands, people need to stop that and learn these corporations are not good, none of them.
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Why did this channel turn anti amd over the years? It used to be rather spot on, now it believes fairytales from a deranged narcissist CEO of Intel. Let me fix some stuff for you. Battlemage is delayed to 2025, amd is gonna use 3nm for next generation and will see an uplift of 30% minimal compared to this gen. So where does gaming decrease? Only reason Intel is still selling laptops, is their iron grip on vendors. I think I will order my 14900ks now and heat up my room for next winter. I'm glad I unscribed a year ago, it hasn't been improving I see. A shame.
at 10:00 coreteks is talking about the onboard Dram and says "samsung" but if he had used his eyes its clearly Micron chips. Coreteks credibility just dropped for me for missing something so blatant and ZOOMED FUCKING IN.
So long as Intel and AMD have backdoors, they can't be trusted! Users need to have the capability to independently assess what all processors are doing and allow users the ability to control those processors. Users pay high amounts for tech equipment and it's only a matter of time before they take their privacy seriously.
Hahaha Intel is still claiming the first integrated npu.. lets hope the rest of their statements are more truthful.. ow eait it's Intel, so probably not 😂
Unfortunately you have to take anything Intel says with an extra pinch of salt. It's been a while since they delivered.
They delivered with Wireguard on chip acceleration with their Xeon chips. Their acceleration stuff is noice.
Did they not just deliver recently?
True
and looks to be even longer still.
@@ominous-omnipresent-they yah they delivered by replacing number 3 with 4 in their latest release and calling it a new gen :)
Battlemage is expected Q4 this year, so in Intel slang that most likely means a paper launch December 31st 2024
If Alchemist is any indication, that's optimistic.
To their credit, Intel's come a lonnnng way since that launch. But they still have a long way to go.
Sadly I believe you
Amd deserved to be kicked in their ass especially after they milking their consumer with the same cpu and gpu but rebrand it as new gen so they can mislead people and sell their old rebranded products with higher price, hopefully Intel keep bringing heat o competition because it benefits all of us who are consumer.
@@runninginthe90s75 You are confusing something. "14th gen" isn't from AMD.
Battlemage is not coming to discrete market.
"We at Intel are proud to announce, our previous 7 nm process node which we renamed to 3 nm has now been rebranded to Intel 1 nm. This represents an impressive update to marketing collateral and promotional materials that will keep Intel on par with the industry standard" - Intel Executive, probably
This 💯 😂
Thanks Steve!
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Intel laptops BATTERY life is as good as MacBook M2/M3 even though Intel is using Tiles/Chiplet.
Impressive🤯
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"Hardware Canucks" preproduction unit review of Zenbook 14 with ULTRA 7 155H. It is the FASTEST video editing machine even ar 25 Watt total SoC power limit and way better than any AMD 4nm/5nm APU.
wasn't that the speech from Pat Intel? ;>)
This aged well. Intel is a dumpster fire in Q2 2024 due to 13th and 14th gen stability issues. What good is having the fastest chip if it only lasts 6 months?
This isn't true. I've had a Core i7-14700 since February. Only installed patched microcode version 2 days ago. I have ZERO problems with the CPU. I have never overclocked the CPU (just the IMC since I overclock the RAM to 5600MT/s). The CPU has been rock solid. Wish I could say the same about my 4060 Ti 8GB...
Memory latency chart is simplified to the point of incorrect.
The difference between L1 and L2 is pretty large (as in 3x/4x difference).
And the difference between L3 and DRAM is even larger.
So, from L1 to DRAM, we are not talking a x3 advantage, but more something like x30 advantage.
A massive difference.
@ennio5763 I'm well aware of the latency differences, maybe you're new to my channel. The point of the illustration was to explain near memory compute to as wide an audience as possible. The system is hypothetical.
I don't want to have to be 'that guy', but having accurate data wouldn't have changed that.
@@minus3dbintheteens60agreed
@@Coreteks The average twelve year old can understand these differences, just how much do you want to dumb things down.!
2:51 NO intel just has the deeper pockets to force their will on these oems. I've seen this ever since i have work in the tech industry
9:50 This guy has no idea what he is talking about, yet again...says "probably Samsung" with two giant Micron logos on the memory chips.
Why would I trust and pay attention to anything else said in this video if such obvious mistakes are not spotted before release?
Yet it's still probably Samsung.... From that leaked engineering sample photo the discussion is mainly about what Intel is doing there, the memory chips are outsourced from another company, they literally used the closest 2 memory chips they had lying around for that engineering sample, for the final product there will be an agreement on volume of sales and price of the chips and Intel will go with the price/performance they can get and that might be from any of the memory manufacturers around and once they get this deal done they just get the chips and install them into their volume production products. The fact that the engineering sample has micron chips on it says nothing about what the manufacturer of the RAM on the final product will be, it only says that there will be RAM. The manufacturer can literally change the day before final volume production or even during production and they can also source the RAM chips from multiple manufacturers at the same time and have products with RAM from both Micron and Samsung concurrently in volume production.
@@marcosvictor4935 now that is logic at its finest. It is kinda sus though
I came to this video after getting offered another of his videos, that aged like milk " 2D vs 3D Stacking: Intel’s plan to beat Zen 2 "
And it looks like the same type of video
Even the fact that he's saying that L1/L2 at 10ns(last true in 2001 with early Pentium4 designs), RAM at 30ns latency instead of 60, so he can show a smaller gap between L3 and RAM latency
Not sure if mis-informed and incompetent clickbait, or paid troll.
I certainly hope so.
We need more competition in the CPU and APU market.
Well, Nvidia just don't care anymore, so lets hope that Intel delivers.
you NVidia zombies made it so. their gaming improvement is small now, chips only have so much room. more and more transistors for ai and shit. besides gatekeeping upscaler, gamers are fucked.
Well, Nvidia got stuck on monolothic. It keeps them the lead at the moment. But question is if sticking too long to monolithic won't just loose them the lead in the long run. One or two generations ahead.
they're delivering low power/mobile/mid-range stuff, so I'd say no. It's still early days.
Don't blame Nvidia, it's the consumers that put Nvidia in the position it's in to abuse this position, and Nvidia are going to milk it for all it's worth unless consumers change tactics.
At the end of the day, the only thing Nvidia cares about is profit margins and sales, unless those change in a negative way for them, expect them to continue to screw over their fans.
@JoeL-xk6bo lol it's the best gpu and offers Cuda. Go buy Chiplet high idle openCL trash. If 7900xtx or arc was faster. Then we would buy it.
Jesus Christ! Those Turbo TDPs are fucking insane. Maybe in 2-3 years they will have more meaningful products, looking forward to it.
hype up alder lake -> hype up raptor lake -> meteor lake can't even come to desktop -> hyper up arrow lake -> hype up lunar lake -> finally shut up and wait and see????
Alder Lake and Raptor Lake were brilliant. and Meteor Lake with integrated ARC graphics have finally beaten AMD's iGPU performance for the first time in many years.
@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVEBS, MTL iGPU doesn’t beat AMD. Intel sent laptops to reviewers with LPDDR5-7800 to inflate GPU performance. The LPDDR5-6400 on stock laptops will yield 10-15% worse performance.
Mea@JoeL-xk6bo You Amdumbs fanboy happy to see grandma Lisa Sucks milking you fanboy with the same cpu and gpu like radeon 6500xt, 5500xt, ryzen 5500u, 8700g. How pathetic !
Mea@JoeL-xk6bo You Amdumbs fanboy happy to see grandma Lisa milking you fanboy with the same cpu and gpu like radeon 6500xt, 5500xt, ryzen 5500u, 8700g. How pathetic !
@@tringuyen7519 And now the MSI Claw handheld is the latest lie. No 32GB of RAM and the memory speed on MSI's web page says 4800 while it is advertised all over having 6400. Intel products strategy is unreliable and so is how they present performance. Ever since hiring Ryan Shrout, known liar.
this isnt aging well
Intel have not delivered on their promises in a decade.
Five months later and man has been an Oracle. People are trashing Zen 5 for trending to be worse than the 7800X3D at launch, and the 15% uplift for Arrow Lake while unconfirmed at the moment could be tracking.
Wait, Intel are still in business?
Yup and they are earning more than 2018,19,20 and 21
They are actually doing pretty good, in laptops especially.
I'd say their products are about on par with AMD, if you ignore iGPU.
Also remember that people, especially in business setting, are highly biased towards intel.
I've been observing that market, most business laptops bought en masse by corpos are intel laptops, which is also reflected by machines available on the used market.
Yes just switched over to I 14700k from ryzen 1st gen
@@Sliced_cheese98 That's a big upgrade. You're probably seeing a night and day difference.
not really
Welp, this seems to have aged like milk.
Yep AMD should be worried that they don't have enough chips lined up in production to offset the disappointing Intel releases.
We need these longer videos,I'm folding clothes & waiting for the dryer to finish lol......
keep up the good work!!
I'm waiting for a robot to fold the clothes for me. Until then, they can just stay in a pile.
Intel - Just Wait tm.
9:51 This is clearly a Micron logo on the DRAM package. From the package etching itself, MT62F1G64D4AH-023 WT Micron part number states this is an 8GB LPDDR5 and not LPDDR5X package.
Given your track record with predictions, i take it that AMD is gonna buldoze Intel. Btw you should tell your buddies at urcdekeys that their office prices are insane.
insane in a good or bad way?
@@user-lp5wb2rb3v Bad way, you can can easily get one for 15 bucks at other sites selling volume keys.
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@@user-lp5wb2rb3v bad way
Maybe they woke up after the last decade of slumber?
if their fabs and architecture isn't good, it just isn't good. That's what killed off all other in house fabs/chip makers or made them change their business over the years. Every new frontier of technology more and more fall of, intel have fallen off. More and more they rely on TSMC for ALL new important chips. Their own fabs are making more third party product for other companies now.
@@JoeL-xk6boThe fact their fabs are making more products for other companies than they are making Intel products shows that the fabs are doing great, it's the design teams that are sucking air. Sad.
@@benjaminoechsli1941 making products for other companies would just tell us that they are producing mostly old node stuff, like 14nm or larger
Hp pavilion Plus 14 (68 Wh) with #AMD 7840U has 10 to 11 hours of BATTERY.
Hp spectre x360 14 (68 Wh) with #Intel Core ULTRA 7 155H has 14 to 15 hours of BATTERY. 😱
Intel laptops BATTERY life is as good as MacBook M2/M3 even though Intel is using Tiles/Chiplet.
Impressive🤯
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No, the design team doesn't suck. The Intel fabs don't have the capability of making their best products. That is why they rely on TSMC. The products they fab for themselves and others are on lesser nodes.@@benjaminoechsli1941
15:42
You would actually need to multipicate the performance increases, (if I'm correct) so it would be a almost 63% increase.
When was the last time Intel didn't delay by an entire year? When was 10nm supposed to launch as opposed to when it actually launched? Wasn't Alder Lake supposed to up-end AMD's hold on the market? Wasn't Meteor Lake supposed to be this huge efficiency increase and a big jump in IPC?
When has Intel actually lived up to their promises in the last half decade? 10nm is just 14nm all over again.
This video aged like milk
Just like Intel CPU LOL
When did intel actually deliver what they said they would do, at the launch time that they said they'd do? Lol intel needs accept they're second rate.
They announced Alder Lake at CES 2021 and delivered later that year as they said they would do just like they're doing now with Arrow and Lunar Lakes.
We the new chipset and socket they would never convince me to buy Intel any more.
Stop threatening already! You've been doing it since 2018!
Show us your best and let the price drops begin! Gamers win in the end!
Intel 7 is comparable to competitors 7nm nodes AFAIK, despite starting its life called 10nm.
Considering that 14900K isn't much faster than the 12900K that 15900K has to be more than 20% faster or it's going to be another embarrassment for Intel 😂 also AMD doesn't sit still and at least for me it doesn't matter what Intel comes out with because I'm already on AM5 😁😁
The next Intel chips are Arrow Lake, which is an entirely new architecture, that eschews Hyper-Threading entirely. It's going to be incredible for single-threaded/latency-sensitive tasks. You can't compare the 14900k vs 12900k (basically the same design) to the 15900k vs 14900k. The single-threaded performance of the 15th gen will be nuts.
@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE I will believe when I see it and you obviously not getting my point 😜
@@adi6293 No, you're not getting my point. The 15900K absolutely will be over 20% faster than the 14900K. It's an entirely new architecture, where as Raptor Lake was not much different to Alder Lake (both great architectures mind you).
It is going to have blazingly fast IPC, and no Hyper-Threading, the largest architectural change since the first gen i7's nearly 15 years ago.
@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE I'm old enough to remember stuff like Pentium 4 and Buldozer, new isn't always better that's why I will believe it when I see it 😜
@@adi6293 And I'm old enough (32 years old) to remember my first family PC having Windows 3.1, and my cousin having Windows 95 that could run DOOM 95, Dark Forces, Descent, and Blade Runner!
Pentium 4 in the early 2000s was a blessing for me.
Yes, but no mention of energy efficiency? From my personal observations, amd laptops run longer. Probably due to 7nm vs whatever.
It's good to hear that Battlemage has a whole lot of hands working on it, especially with rumors that, as you say, Battlemage is just going to purely be a midrange desktop launch.
If they took it easy this year, and hit hard with Celestial, they could take some market share!
Intel just canned Battlemage mobile GPU. If you don’t see it on Lunar Lake by year end, Battlemage is DOA.
Amd deserved to be kicked in their ass especially after they milking their consumer with the same cpu and gpu but rebrand it as new gen so they can mislead people and sell their old rebranded products with higher price, hopefully Intel keep bringing heat to competition because it benefits all of us who are consumer.
You are watching to much of Moore's law is dead lmao that guy will delete all of his videos that he talk trash about Battlemage like he always do when he's wrong@@tringuyen7519
The mid-range and above Battlemage products on desktop were cancelled a year ago.!
@@ADB-zf5zr didn't you watch their interview on CES this January they haven't cancelled anything, they'll release late this year
Isn't this good? Competition is good right? AMD and Intel and Apple are just competing with each other...
Yes it is, it is not real competition, but it is what we have. For real competition you need private property anarchy, private law societies and no IP laws.
Seems like we've been hearing this for years and they never deliver. I'd be more interested if they were ditching e-cores this time around because it's telling that they still can't come close to AMD efficiency if they're relying on e-cores again
Why they abolish HTreading? I am still on coffee lake 8700K with NO any performance issues, only the internal intel GPU struggling during 4K video play, but this GPU was basically for free!! BTW: +20% + 18 % + 15% would total almost +63%, not +53%!! Basic arithmetics!
Security reasons. It turned out it's much much easier to hack something that's using HT especially if multiple programs are running at once. At least that's what I've heard.
Less silicon and complexity of the core, and then can add more IPC with the silicon budget. At least this is my hypothesis, Intel doesn't really need hyperthreading anymore because they have e-cores. If they can get much more ipc without hyperthreading i think its the right thing to do. Hyperthreading is a hack to make hardware more productive but interleaving instructions adds complexity to the core. It was a cheap tradeoff at the time, but with e-cores it makes sense they push the P-cores for maximum IPC and leave multicore tasks for e-cores
I'd be already surprised if Intel releases ARL or BM at all this year.
Lol. Of course they will.
Remember Alder Lake announcement at CES 2021 which launched later that year? Anything they announce at CES comes along as they said. So you'll see Arrow Lake and Lunar Lake this year. As for Battlemage no official announcement has been made yet but it is expected to come out this year as well.
@@Patrick73787 Remember Alchemist announcement in Q1 2022 for Q1 2022?
But it launched late September 2022 with only 1 card, not the previously promised 4 cards.
Also Meteor Lake was promised since 2021, but then cancelled for desktop 2 years later.
So we'll see if Intel actually releases anything this year, their announcements never meant anything in the last years.
@@Patrick73787 Intel also announced Alchemist in Q1 2022 launching in Q1 2022. It arrived half a year later with a highly cut down line up.
Maybe there will be paper launch in Q4 and actual availability in Q2 next year then. We'll see.
@@nipa5961 You're comparing their CPU division where they had decades of experience to their newly formed GPU division. At this point in time we know why Alchemist got delayed. It had nothing to do with hardware manufacturing. The software team simply wasn't ready. What they learnt with Alchemist is now benefiting the iGPU in Meteor Lake and we're hoping it will be the same for Battlemage.
09:52 - Samsung DRAM with a Micron logo on it? Are you *sure*?
Intel is definitely on the right path with the Meteor and especially Lunar Lake focusing on the efficiency and squeezing all the chip components including RAM on the same package. With continuous improvement of the chip logic and advances in chip manufacturing as well as next GPU architecture Intel can take AMD's spot for low power efficient SoCs with very decent integrated GPUs. AMD should watch out and answer to that and not wait because it can be eventually too late.
You should see the MLID Intel Battlemage expectation leak released this week. It could barely complete with AMDs current gen, but when you consider that it will face AMDs next gen, Intel may have to sell Battlemage at a loss.
MLID the dude who has been claiming ARC is dead for 3 years now. Such reliable source. You must write a paper on it
@@whosehandleARC is dead. A770 is a joke compared to a 7800XT or 4060 Super.
@@tringuyen7519 It is a different price segment altogether. Besides ARC has 4% market share last quarter. The only thing dead is MLID's CZcams spiel.
Intel comeback will official start with 20A and get back market share starting 18A, then own ass with 14A
I'll take a slower than Zen5 Intel chip if it had a power reduction of 53%. CPU performance isn't that big of a deal in 1440 or 4k gaming, it's the GPU that's important. But Intel's huge power consumption is a problem, that's what they most urgently need to fix, at least to convince me to go back to Intel.
Just limit the consumption from BIOS to 125W and you'll only lose 2-3% of performance.
IntelCoreUltra has already MacBook level of BATTERY LIFE.
Arrow Lake will be more efficient than Zen 5.
@@HDRPC I was referring to desktop, and no Meteor Lake desktop unfortunately. I hope Arrow Lake desktop will be more efficient, we shall see.
undervolt babe..
@@HDRPCif only. MacBooks are literally iphone chips on steroids. Intel and to extend amd laptops can barely keep cool while looking at a wallpaper. Apple is a bit ahead with the m
-series.
technically seen the optimistic one is 63% increase since 1,2*1,18*1,15 = 1,6284 =163%
that is eficiency however, translating efficiency into performance is diferent, since cores get way less eficient at higher clockspeeds, so often with nodesize shrinking the best way to increase total perormance is to add more cores, but that is expensive so often it is in between.
Intel would not do anything, it they didn't got some kicking from Apple and AMD
Amd deserved to be kicked in their ass especially after they milking their consumer with the same cpu and gpu but rebrand it as new gen so they can mislead people and sell their old rebranded products with higher price, hopefully Intel keep bringing heat to competition because it benefits all of us who are consumer.
Yeah right. Sintel says every year 'AMD should be worried', yet all the supposedly new intel arch cpu's are just overclocked and power hungry refreshes of the previous generations.
one thing I'd like to see intel address with battlemage is the power consumption. Arc cards use way more power than AMD ones for the same performance class and that's with AMD cards using more than NVIDIA
With NVidia you need a mini nuclear power plant.
Intel said they will fix the idle power draw issue with their next generation of GPUs.
Arc architecture is a dud people. it uses more power because the performance is shit. for the die size and transistor count of Intel gpus they should be performing like the RX6700XT at least. but they're miles behind that. the architecture suck in rater, but has good (useless for gamers) compute performance. Raja just stole AMD's vega homework and took it with him to Intel lol. Battle mage is delayed and gonna be (maybe) as fast as the RTX 4070/4070S. Intel is done in gpus, their little expirament is a failure.
@@_M.... Meteor Lake iGPU has the same architecture as desktop Arc Alchemist (with some fixes) and Lunar Lake iGPU will have the same architecture as Arc Battlemage. Both will do well. We can already see some of those architectural fixes on Meteor Lake which has a pretty efficient iGPU on par with AMD's current offering. They're already working (as per Tom Peterson) on the 3rd gen Arc Celestial. So this is definitely not an experiment. The only experiment was done on the first gen cards.
@@Patrick73787 buddy they're laptop partners don't even want to make units around their upcoming apu, they're apparently missing the launch window yet again. BM release date and performance targets adjusted yet again. it's not looking good.
They have the newest EUV and High NA EUV machines. It's just a matter of time now.
9:30 So, now it is a good? thing to have all your eggs in one basket?😮😮
lol, don't know but this thing poping up now at wrong time
Some tech tubers who say they have contacts at the OEM's report that there isn't any talk of battlemage products coming out this year. I hope their wrong and would love to see more competition, I hope Intel manages to surprise us all.
Instead of adding the "*Lunar lake" you could cut the audio and replace it with the correct name...
Many would appreciate the source of images you are using
You forgot to subtract the performance loss of no hyperthreading!
Intel is doing many good things, like investing in fabs, getting drivers right for their GPUs, and general software-hardware integration.
Just wish their GPUs had AI support as you have on NVIDIA GPUs.
Intel is investing in Fabs because they have to, and are being subsidised by the US government, their Graphics drivers are still very unstable, better, but unusable for many things and are still not certified for business use by HP or Dell, and their software/hardware integration is necessary because of their design choices. Having two different core architectures is fine so long as they use the same ISA, they don't and so the software is there to work around that design choice and to then buff performance just as is done for GPU's with new games, Intel is having to do this for their CPU's, again because of their design choices.
@@haroldasrazthey do, they have dedicated AI cores just like Nvidia cards.
My AMD laptop is a lot better than it's Intel counterpart
Mine is exactly opposite
hmm... the ambience is actually different. I'm actually worried about Intel. The mediocre performance (sales) of Arc is making Intel want to re-consider the entire line-up. If Battlemage won't sell as good as AMD GPU's then theres a high chance of cancellation for Intel dGPU's. And no, I don't think BMG will have a tiled design. They could with memory but not with the GPU. They would end up the same as RDNA3 with separate memory. Why? Just look at MTL. As for ARL, its not much of a problem with AMD, specially if its gonna be late again.
Ponte Vecchio (their data Center GPU) has up to 47 tiles. It was rumored that Battlemage will inherit some Ponte Vecchio features. Time will tell.
Battlemage desktop mid-range and up was cancelled a year ago. Battlemage for mobile and to be used in intels next CPU release "might" also be cancelled because it has been delayed so much that it might not even be ready for the end of the year when the next CPU is to be released with or without Battlemage and Celestial will not be ready either, so things are not looking good on this front for Intel.!
Weird distracting high pitched noises in the music track I am assuming. Most apparent at 8:39 and the following 10 seconds
Haven't you anything better to think about, or complain about?
Meh. AMD will be busy in 2024 advancing their processors even farther past what Intel can deliver... in another 5 or 10 years. I haven't been more excited about AMD since they bested Intel and created the x64 instruction set, along with coming out with chips like the Athlon to take advantage of it. Intel is always too ready to rest on its laurels.
Micron logo all over those DRAM.
Looking forward to arrow lake. Been holding off on an upgrade due to current offerings from AMD and Intel.
Honestly these video descriptions are stupid. Amd has nothing to worry about...it's not like their chips are slow or expensive
nah, having a weaker apu/cpu that is at best in the same level as last year's AMD's APU with higher wattages. AMD will be fine and intel is still stuck in weaker Arch Moores laws dead take on this topic is something to listen. Good take nonetheless
Hp pavilion Plus 14 (68 Wh) with #AMD 7840U has 10 to 11 hours of BATTERY.
Hp spectre x360 14 (68 Wh) with #Intel Core ULTRA 7 155H has 14 to 15 hours of BATTERY. 😱
Intel laptops BATTERY life is as good as MacBook M2/M3 even though Intel is using Tiles/Chiplet.
Impressive🤯
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stop, do u have them
@@HDRPC
@@HDRPC Intel marketing numbers with the entire CPU tile disabled and the laptop idling on desktop with sleep and hibernate disabled and literally nothing happening and that nothing is being handled by the two Ultra Low Power cores on the I/O tile. In other words a totally fake "win" repeated at least a dozen times by you via a copy/paste all over these comments.
Get your audio straight … so many *corrections!
This aged like milk
All I hear is that Arrow lake will dissapoint . So Intel continues to sink.
I hope you’re right. We need more competition.
I wonder why none of these guys are competing against Apple’s M ultra series. 800GB/s bandwidth is incredible for ai.
Ai enthusiasts are paying top dollar for apples m ultra series and I don’t see any competition in sight for this.
meanwhile, AMD is releasing a 2000+ core iGPU :P the only thing I find interesting here is the on-package DRAM. Micron is killing it right now!
That lunar lake processor isn’t a new look. That’s what Intel MacBook processors looks like.
Not a fan of what felt like two product ads in the video, knowing there is a laptop available with two screens (Which are generally terrible because of the portable typing experience) and a gaming handheld with drivers bad for gaming isn't an asset. I'm here to learn about the CPU itself, not 2 random products that have one.
The future of laptop and computer repair is going to be soldering and repairing these devices are going to be heavily dependent on somebody’s skill to diagnose and microsolder at the component level. If you are thinking about getting into computer repair, you have to be considering learning how to diagnose and rework BGA chips.
Fix the 13th n 14th gen first, intel is shit
This competition in integrated graphics will lead to some interesting products
You think Amd are just going to sit there waiting, as soon as intel release something new, Amd will pounce,
Do u still think AMD is worried? lol
Patrick Paul Gelsinger seems to be bringing Intel back to life! ❤😊🙂
Yes.
Hp pavilion Plus 14 (68 Wh) with #AMD 7840U has 10 to 11 hours of BATTERY.
Hp spectre x360 14 (68 Wh) with #Intel Core ULTRA 7 155H has 14 to 15 hours of BATTERY. 😱
Intel laptops BATTERY life is as good as MacBook M2/M3 even though Intel is using Tiles/Chiplet.
Impressive🤯
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@@HDRPCBS. All of those benchmarks are BS. MTL delivered worse performance than AMD Hawk Point.
AI on devices other than a data center is a marketing gimmick, automated tasks in disguise.
11% IPC for zen5? Rumors are 15%+ min do 25%...
you rock! but still please send me a raw recording of yours - wann give you a processed version
Intel Stock trades like tobacco shares, but without the big div yield.
Let's be honest, performance from AMD and Nvidia line-up of gpu's from low, mid and high end and Intel from low to mid-end are not at issue, the real issue is the pricing stature of all these cards are not that great value.
A mid-range card over $500 isn't mid-range, and if Intel can change anything when it comes to price to performance, great but I'm not convinced yet.
Also, as good as the high-end market is to have, it's not where most of the sales are, the low to mid-end makes up the vast bulk of sales, AMD are already in a position to shake that market up but are not doing it, hence why it's market share isn't changing in it's favour, Intel could shake up the low to mid-low end gpu market, but its brand reputation needs to improve, as well as it's drivers before it can make a big impact, maybe with ARC 2, but without any major price slashing to shake up the market, it's hard to get excited about any of this as it's pricing most consumers out, at least when it comes to decent performance, which matters because developers will only target what most can afford.
So again, the gpu's that are already on the market are not the issue, the price point is, AMD could change that but they seem unwilling, Intel could, especially with ARC 2, but we'll have to wait and see, being that it looks like these companies are getting used to the fat profits on dgpu sales that unless something forces them, I don't expect much change in the price point.
With all that said, the APU market looks far more exciting over the dgpu market, and I would love Intel to do well in the dgpu and APU market but we've heard this so many times already and yet we are still waiting, and honestly, like I said above, the biggest issue isn't performance but the price point when it comes to gpu's, who ever corrects that will very likely gain market share, especially when AMD and Nvidia clearly don't want to do that, and considering that Intel is the underdog in that market, it would do wonders for its market share as well as mind share, AMD are in a position to do it but they went for the greed option and have not gained any market share, in fact, it's lost market share over the last few years.
AMD needs to realise that unless you have a better product than your rivals, you can't afford to charge what you are charging for your products and to expect market share to change much, AMD is the underdog in the dgpu market with it's market share and even with it's mind share, that basically means if they want any real traction in the market, they have to be far more aggressive on pricing, and it's even more so for Intel in the dgpu market, and in the meantime, Nvidia is laughing all the way to the bank because it's rivals are not changing anything in the market to force Nvidia to slash prices, which Nvidia will be the last to slash prices, that opens up the door for rivals to eat into Nvidia's market share, but regardless, AMD isn't going to do it, they've had a few years now they could have done it and nothing change, Intel is an unknown, with them, we have to see with ARC 2, once its drivers are more mature and especially when it's new fab plants come online.
I bought into Arc, using an A750 in my HTPC, and A770 in my main gaming PC. Mainly for science. At first, I was having issues, and often a bit annoyed. Now, they both perform up to my expectations. I was using a 1080ti, and 2070super in both PC's before, and actually the Arc's suit the PC's a bit BETTER now. I'm not making youtube videos benching numbers, so if it's smooth playable and looks good, that's all I'm noticing. The 1080ti was having a bit of trouble with newer Dx12 titles, and things just generally not looking proper and buggy sometime on newer titles regardless of it having more pure rasterization performance. The latency feels a lot smaller going from a 2070s to A770, and the RTX performance..Av1 encoding, etc feels a lot nicer on the A770, but it's not a giant difference, mainly just the newer features and better optimization on newer titles.
Anyways, I'm very pleased with Arc, and I don't think it's this 'experimental' card anymore. I'd recommend them to anybody that cba to keep on top of driver updates. That's really the biggest annoyance is the constant updating to be caught up. If you can be bothered to do that, they're very acceptable now.
HOWEVER. The A750 at $200 flat, pretty amazing value.. The A770 at 310/320.. It should be like....mmm, $279.99 or so. At that price point or even less, it would be a KILLER. I'm just not sure intel can take the losses at that low. If they can lose the 'paid test monkey' aura they have and knock prices down.. I think they can really get some foothold, as well as more marketing.
intel's track records says otherwise.. ill just wait till it comes out and see if they delivered.. and one last thing i would like to disagree is the pricing, i doubt they will give there most advance nodes for 600$ cant expect a multiple node jump 15900k to be priced that way thats too optimistic
Sure, but Pat Gelsinger kinda fired half the staff when he arrived. So Intel is half a new company now.
@@TheBann90Let's hope he fired the right half 😅
@@Marhlder well, he is an engineer. Probably did the engineer test on them
@@TheBann90 I certainly have more faith in Pat than the previous management. But he got dealt a really bad hand from the start.
@@Marhlder very true. And it is now 3 years since. Meaning results untill now is mainly based on the previous leadership. But this year and next we will start seeing the result of his leadership.
As much as I'd like for Intel to do well for my meager stock holdings, I highly doubt it would be with graphics and definitely not with disaggregated graphics. I just don't think it's possible because of power consumption.
They just need to bring Quad Channel Memory support back and they will take the gaming crown EASY!
you are aware that "simply" adding two channels of memory requires a bigger socket and makes things much more expensive? And how much more performance 4 instead of 2 channels bring is heavily depending on the game. In worst case you gain nothing and if taking a guess, in best case you can reach maybe 25%.
The answer is much simpler: just like AMD introduce a cache tile. Should be not much of a problem now with Foveros. Local memory is always much faster than external memory.
@@johnscaramis2515 You are both wrong and right at the same time :D
Most older benchmarks done to "test" quad channel setups were purist, with only the game running and nothing else.
The much more usual case though is that you've got 30 tabs open and you're running a bunch of other software in the background while you're gaming.
I see the difference on my own rig. You can notice it being snappier than most modern ones even though I'm still on my old trusty 5930K with 64gigs of 2133 DDR4 (oh which 16 are almost constantly used as a RAM Drive).
Making a bigger socket is not an issue. Intel made 2011v-3 with no big extra costs, the can do it again.
@@XfStef I simply need to look at the benchmarks comparing Ryzen and Ryzen3D parts. Some games take big benefit, some close to none, some even show regression. Why should this be different with 4 channels vs. 2 channels?
And yes, the costs for Intel making a bigger socket are probably not that much. But you forgot the mainboards, a hell lot of more traces. And those traces need to be good enough for DDR5 speeds.
@@johnscaramis2515 Helps with load times and day to day file moving usage.
Pat needs a new playbook for Intel products.
Will there be a Windows 12 that demands 40 TOPS? Meteor Lake CPUs run at 34 TOPS, making them ineligible to power AI PCs.
For Battlemage I am watching to see if intel makes a move into the professional graphics market. nVidia and AMD both do a line that basically looks like it pays the salaries of their driver teams profit wise. If intel goes for it their approach may be a bit of shake up there, allowing intel to test out future builds of the consumer chips tech wise and scoop in on the lower end workstation market. For editing and media servers intel is not half bad, they may go after media servers on their road back to the full server market. They have some advantages with Xeon's with "cheap" PCi-E raids on media servers as well. It will be it seems a rough year for them but it will may make things interesting.
Intel Toasters going on sale? No self respecting Data Farm would use them! And that is where the money is.
4 min in and this just sounds like a commercial for intel. Most my interest, sorry
I can tell you this man is the ONLY on the tech youtube space that is honest. He has content that has "good opinions" for AMD, but if he sees something he tells, this is not about brands, people need to stop that and learn these corporations are not good, none of them.
@@gamingtemplar9893 yeah I know and I agree, but then the first 4 min is talk about specific Intel based laptops I get bored.
Hp pavilion Plus 14 (68 Wh) with #AMD 7840U has 10 to 11 hours of BATTERY.
Hp spectre x360 14 (68 Wh) with #Intel Core ULTRA 7 155H has 14 to 15 hours of BATTERY. 😱
Intel laptops BATTERY life is as good as MacBook M2/M3 even though Intel is using Tiles/Chiplet.
Impressive🤯
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This aged poorly.
sounds like intel might be having some trouble with euv machines, i think i might wait for 18A to upgrade. i hope theres a 125w tdp for that node!
I always take Intel's TDP rating with a grain of salt. If Intel says 125W TDP, it always mean the CPU needs 125W running on its guaranteed base clock.
It felt like I was listening to GPU coil whine all throughout this video. Very unpleasant.
We will see when Arrow lake and Zen 5 arrive, till then all just speculatius
Hopefully. I only like to support underdawgs. And AMD... well they haven't been one lately. Murdering the ever loving silicon out of Intel and nvidia.
i don't care about desktop chips. i want mobile gaming. strix point and halo look like the way to go.
Is Forza Horizon 5 really this unoptimized or something else is up w/ almost 17GBs of ram being allocated @5:12?
Why did this channel turn anti amd over the years? It used to be rather spot on, now it believes fairytales from a deranged narcissist CEO of Intel. Let me fix some stuff for you. Battlemage is delayed to 2025, amd is gonna use 3nm for next generation and will see an uplift of 30% minimal compared to this gen. So where does gaming decrease?
Only reason Intel is still selling laptops, is their iron grip on vendors. I think I will order my 14900ks now and heat up my room for next winter.
I'm glad I unscribed a year ago, it hasn't been improving I see. A shame.
at 10:00 coreteks is talking about the onboard Dram and says "samsung" but if he had used his eyes its clearly Micron chips. Coreteks credibility just dropped for me for missing something so blatant and ZOOMED FUCKING IN.
So long as Intel and AMD have backdoors, they can't be trusted!
Users need to have the capability to independently assess what all processors are doing and allow users the ability to control those processors.
Users pay high amounts for tech equipment and it's only a matter of time before they take their privacy seriously.
Hahaha Intel is still claiming the first integrated npu.. lets hope the rest of their statements are more truthful.. ow eait it's Intel, so probably not 😂
I wouldn't worry.
8W chip can get into a smartphone!! Only if Intel makes X86 licensable like Arm, they can save their space in the desktop market.