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00:00 ToneX Pedal
02:13 Introduction
3:45 #1 Alt Controls
04:51 #2 Advanced Mode
06:44 #3 USB Interface
07:39 #4 Cabs
09:14 #5 Create Models
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Michael, you're one of the most unappreciated guitarists on CZcams today.
Except by us!!!!
Thanks gang! You're awesome!
Anywhere.@@slidersson
Totally agree, love the way you play the changes!
This pedal is the best thing since sliced bread. It's not expensive, the tones on it by STOCK are UN-BE-LI-EVA-BLE still few days later after the purchase I'm shaking my head in disbelief. Best purchase ive EVER DONE.
This is the Kemper / Quad Cortex I always wanted. Realistic, accurate captures via PC (which makes more sense anyway), amazing sound quality, relatively simple PC software, small footprint / easy to transport, and an affordable price. Definitely getting one!
No. Tone X does not sound good. Worst hype in years. Most of the sounds I've heard from Tone X sounds like crap.
@@thomasandersson9605 Well, that's your opinion, but I've heard enough demos that capture amps from pretty good to almost identical, and that's good enough for me to give it a try. I'm curious though; is your opinion based on personal experience or demos?
@@thomasandersson9605worth listening to the results of null testing. Shows how close the Tonex is vs the Kemper and QC. Not a Tonex owner myself, but was surprised.
@@robdavies9478 😆😅🤣😅😂😆😅🤣😂😄😆😅
@@thomasandersson9605 I think the Kemper and QC both sound great as well but it’s literally just software programming running on computer hardware. Having downloaded a spot-on capture of a boutique amp I own and have both recorded and gigged with, I greatly disagree with your opinion.
you always come up with some sweet tones, riffs and tasteful solo's that complement tune. pedal sounds amazing too.
9:54 🤯 Great demo Michael! It’s always a good day when you drop a video. You are one tasty player! And that pedal is 🔥😉
Excellent demo! really helps get the most of this machine
Sounds great Michael! I'd expect no less in your hands!!
One of your Best vid introz Michael. Tasty paying Sir!
What a robust little unit! And the cost isn't bad either. If I was a kid starting out again, I can see this piece holding someone down for quite awhile.
Awesome video man!
Hey Michael I was watching Pete Thorn's Sunday livestream and he mentioned needing to hit you up to help him with his Tonex captures... great stuff!
Great video - informative thanks
Awesome pedal
Great review
Awesome video Michael, essential and full of useful things, no frills, bravo! and the tones are fantastic, especially with the tele!! What that clean preset n.2 "Calean" at min. 7' ??
Great video as always! But you forgot to mention #6: use the expression pedal to super easily and seamlessly morph tones without changing presets.
Sounds KILLER! \m/
great intro brother!
Nice demo
Always quality Michael! I was looking at going back to Kemper after having to sell for financial reasons, do you think this ‘feels’ as good as Kemper? Sounds incredible, I wonder if it competes with Kemper on feel though 🤔
So I currently use a Helix and was wondering if i could use the tonex to capture ambient reverbs I create. Just thinking of the possibilities with this unit. Awesome guitar playing tand content as always 🤙
damn michael your phrasing is absolutely insane in the solo
Hey yo, can you do a detailed rundown video of your composing rig/ set up... Computers, libraries, speakers, outward etc etc ? Bless ya.. Cheers
Can confirm his tonex patches paired with a good IR sound amazing, literally saved all the free ones one by one, they kept cooking
Nice tune man
Thanks!
Always you make you gear sound brilliant…not as good as me but pretty good…….Tonex pedal rocks
Thanks for the tutorial! How do I capture tones from my other guitar plugins such as Neural,Overloud,Blue Cat etc onto the Tonex?
Nice hunka gear. Great price.
Very cool!
Also, that shirt! Where did you get that?
Awesome Michael!
Whenever you’re ready to put all that Huff stuff in Tonex format, I’ll be here for it! Love your channel!
Hi thanks!!! I did just put out a Mesa pack with the Studio preamp and Quad (and triaxis), but since ToneX doesn’t really have FX, it’s more about the core amp tones, rather than a complete Fx chain of delays and reverbs
@@BigHairyGuitars kasha?
@@lorenmtucker Yep coming.
@@BigHairyGuitars is it amp capture or previous kemper patch recaptured ? Sounds very very nice
@@ctld5266 New amp captures
Great job Mike - is it possible to add an extremal switch to instantly switch between eq section and alternate settings section Reverb etc. real pain to hold that thing down till its ready - I like to tweak these settings while playing as I use it in front of my AXE III Turbo - thanks much
Awesome and excellent video, pushing me towards the TONEX!!!!
So is it better to run this into some sort of power amp if so any recommendation or just an amp?
Im trying to understand it: If I have a macbook with Amplitube 5 and this tonex pedal I can "save" a sound to it and use this pedal alone in a small live concert, plugged in directly into PA?
As a harmonica player, this Tonex player seems very enticing, if ... it can be patched with the elusive combination of unobtainably rare & expensive amps that actually sound & work well for amplified harmonica. Whether or not it'll be achievable at any stage it's hard to say, but I love the concept of having an all-in-one tone box, then plug into a clean amp, FR/FR speaker or PA. I think the price point of the Tonex is pretty reasonable considering what other products cost. In the meantime, I'll sit on the fence and think about it.
Perfect review !!
Would love to use it with an acoustic and FRFR speakers for coffee shop gigs , is this possible?
Yeah, you can even make a Tone Model of your favorite acoustic preamp. Then add compression and reverb from the pedal.
1:13 Seriously!? Dude, nice playing! Killer song, too. Great job!
That's a great video Michael. Is there any aliasing or EQ foldback going on? How's that dealt with? I know the free competitor - NAM has aliasing and is restricted to 48kHz only.
I believe it is restricted to 48k if you're using the digital out, but I'm not sure how to test for aliasing, so I can't comment on that.
What is the output impedance in ohms? Also, is the output line or instrument level?
Great video Mr Nielsen! Please make the capture of all your rare guitar preamps available to us mere mortals, i’m down on my knees praying! 😉
I'm working on it. ToneX is slow going, but they're coming bighairyprofiles.com
@@BigHairyGuitars i thank you a lot…but youre a preamp guy so am i.. it would be verry useful to have your preamp only captures so that we can use them with the power amps of our own rigs and or with things like the virtual ones on the wos or cab m. I know you know… exemple:
CUST 3+ pack as 37 actual presets but an updated one would include a few others of different flavours of the 3 channels pre only. If that make sense. This midi controlled tonex pedal could now be a part in a loop of our pedal switcher based pedalboard. The output of the board could feed a poweramp/cab to gig and a cab m to track, as an exemple.
Your opinion will help me for sure!
Congrats on all your work!
@@BigHairyGuitars hopefully the Friedman Naked amp and Dirty Brown Eye?! 👊🏼
You got a “like” just for wearing the LA hat. 👍 AND where did you get the tee, very cool.
I want a hardware box that uses plug ins and captures. For example the ADA MP-1 plug in. I stayed away from plug ins because I don't like having to keep buying a new computer. I always prefer the real deal but to be able to use plug ins in a device that is portable. Would be great. I don't really want to replace gear. Just acquire some select things that are cool and hard to get a real version.
your opening tunes are getting really great. You and Pete Thorn should collab on something :)
Michael, Pete, and Rabea doing a 90min ultimate gear demo together. It'd be the best YT video ever.
@@WilliamZuest Rabea would be an intern with company like that, son.
@@Jay-sy5yf Pretty much a very large number of people would be interns around Peter & Michael. All I'm saying is it would be wildly entertaining. Your silly superiority complex associated with musical and YT taste is noted, though.
What's the best way to add virtual effects to this pedal? Like delays or chorus?
I picked up a tonex pedal. I’m having a big problems with noise. I’ve messed with the noise gate and input trim, neither helped. It’s only on medium and higher gain sounds. Anyone have any good tips to get the noise down?
I really wish they'd put Overloud in a box like this.
Me too!
Yes I agree Tonex is great but I love overloud also
@@drdev44 I agree. I LOVE THU
@@BigHairyGuitars I think an Overloud box would probably sell better than the Helix.
@@harryanderson7282 yes - I dont know why more people dont mention this. Its just as good as TONEX if not better (in my opinion)
Hey Michael, how about an ADA MP-1 pack for the ToneX? I'll buy it.
tonex or universal audio amp pedals?? which is better and highest quality overall??
Just ordered it
You won’t regret it. It’s pretty dang good
Me too. Waited a long while saving money. I am not rich.
Great video! Glad you liked. Now you can donate your bogner fish to me then lol. This thing sounds good but I wonder how dynamic they feel compared to a real tube amp.
What is the preset you are using for the clean tone? Is it one of the stock presets? I think it says Calean. Great video by the way. Thank you!
would love to know where i can find this preset. anybody know?
Can you disable direct input monitoring if using it as an interface?, for example using it in Reaper to hear the pedal tones trough it's headphone out but at the same time the other USB signals come back, that way we can add more FX in the chain or another vst without having phasing issues while hearing the amp tones directly from the pedal and back again via USB
Yes, I'd like to to know too!
Where can I find that T-shirt? Looks cool af
Thanks for the demo. How about wet effects like chorus, phaser etc. Can those be downloaded into the pedal, or will I have to run the Tonex in to another multieffect like the HX Stomp?
There's a basic reverb (which is nice), very good compressor, and noise gate. The rest requires external pedals / FX.
Sorry Mike Im using live mode I dont think I can change reverb type - oops found that these button presses bit confusing to me
Sounds like the Kemper, except no FX, no loop, but you'll need to have a super computer to make Captures.
I assume Kemper 2 will be something like this!
Very informative video, I'm looking to enhance a compacted midi guitar/synth based rig. With 1or 3 midi controller presses. Telling the keyboard/ Guitar Effects / Song Player to change to the correct setting , via a midi controller, then i just play.
Would the ( Tone X Pedal ) fit into this setup. Also I've NOT heard much about it's MIDI Capabilities.
Is it possible to CAPTURE Amp + Echo and other combinations of amp and guitar effects and use as
saved patch in the ( Tone X Pedal ) If so, would it be possible for you to cover these issues on your channel.
Thanks
John e
8:31 @johnemerson2876 mate I can’t believe this question you asked has been ignored, one of the best and very relevant questions I’ve seen relating to guitar midi / software and or physical modern devices. The stuff dreams are made of for performing half way across a stage with a bass player in your way, when you realise you’re supposed to be in a lead break not a repeated chorus ~! :)) but if the lil midi gremlin had its patch changer linked to the click (track/ smpte time keeper or similar) there’d be no stomp required. Just pure performance bliss. And bottom line as a budding muso’ we hate wasting $$ ~ you’re question is So Valid - I’m stunned it’s been bypassed for 11 months, I would’ve thought atleast someone from @IKMultimedia would’ve pounced at the chance to answer to clear the conscience of thousands of hesitant customers. I’ll do their job for them, for you.
The answer is YES, this is entirely what it does best, BUT that’s if you use DAW to run the timebase of your songs. The ToneX stomp is great with or without a DAW, and negates software if you just want to manually change sounds. Automation changes can ONLY be done via MIDI Programming Changes, and in most cases a DAW
Great review - thanks! Does anyone know:
a) Where the manual is available? It probably has answers to my other questions, but I can't find it.
b) What can the MIDI do? Is there a list of CC codes somewhere? Can you custom assign CC codes?
c) What can the expression input do? Can the tones of different Wah or other variable pedals be captured? Can a pedal control Reverb/Gain?Volume or other parameters?
d) When you over-write a preset, can you save the original (and for that matter ANY preset) in a file within the software?
e) If using with a guitar amp, would this be best going in front or through the effects loop? 4CM?
f) If using with a multi-effects unit through an amp, would this be best before or after?
Thanks for any help!
I didn't have a manual. I'm not sure it's avail yet. Since there was no manual, I'm not sure of the extent of MIDI or expression.
@@BigHairyGuitars It's on the ToneX page on their site. I was reading through it last night. I still can't wrap my head around no fx loop. I do a lot of modern church gigs and they don't want loud amps on stage. So if I'm using this with my other pedals and going straight to a PA, IK says to put time based fx after this pedal but no one is demoing what that sounds like. Have you tried this yet Michael?
@@allpdmusic FX loop would be nice so you can use post FX into the USB interface. However, yeah, you can put any of your FX after the pedal, and it's totally fine. Same as with the UA Dream pedal. Go from pedal into FX. You wont have a final master level control, but you can lower volume from the pedal master volume.
@@BigHairyGuitars Thanks Michael. I appreciate the reply. I might have to get this now. This with an HX Stomp(or FX) and a small Midi switcher would be a killer, small rig that would almost fit in a backpack.
@@allpdmusic ToneX, a Eventide H90, and a little midi switcher would get you 99.99% of everything.
*MIchael!! Do you have a way for creating proper PITCH DETUNE in Amplitube 5???*
Racks>Fender>Pitch Shift is OK. It will allow you to detune -12, or +12, but not the way Eventide does it. For pitch shift ITB, I use SoundToys MicroPitch, or one of the Eventide plugins.
Futur Best seller for sure
Great video as usual Michael.I bought your Kasha pack to my tonex pedal,is it possible to add an ir cab to the preset,and get the hole pack into the pedal?Thanks again🙂
Yes totally. You can add IR's to any preset and save them together.
@@BigHairyGuitars Great,thank you so much Michael🙂Now i´m gonna buy more of your amps,and figure out how to do it(i am new to this pedal)I have the real Soldano x88r preamp myself,and must say you capture it very well.Thanks again
@@matslariand4827 THANKS Mat!
What about if I use it in a live double guitar, keyboard situation? plug direct in a power amp and cab?
Yeah, it would be like using a full range cab. It would work well for that!
When using the usb .. And it is set to interface mode. I can record on my daw .. Yet I cannot hear anything through the speakers ... I can't figure out why. Any advice
That's a pretty long a complicated question. Sample Rates need to match Tonex vs Daw. Audio engine selection in DAW, and Computer, input select in the daw, are the speakers turned on? Go little by little, step by step
Is it me or does this sounds better the the Hx stomp?
Would this thing sound good straight to a small PA for home use? I've got a synth setup in my studio with a pair of 12" Yamaha PA speakers. Wondering if this would sound killer straight to mixer to PA?
Yeah, that would work well.
Do you need a power amp of some sort to use this live with an external guitar speaker?
Yes, you need a power amp like Seymour Duncan Powerstage
I rushed to order this thing this afternoon, not wanting to deal with a massive pre-order wait time, and I didn’t read/understand all the specs first…. So, using it as an interface-are you saying it does its audio over that USB connection? So, it goes straight into my DAW? I had planned to use it with post-amp effects on my pedalboard, so this is maybe not as useful as I was just imagining, but I guess it makes a cleaner path to recording if I want to use DAW effects and plugins instead of my delays and reverb pedals.
This is basically an interface as well as an "amp". You should have all the info you need on IK's sites as well as all the videos on youtube as of now.
Hi Michael, I just bought this pedal and I connected it to my Tascam model 12 on channel 2, but I’m getting latency from the playing to the actual sound coming out of my speakers. I saw other that say you need to switch it between live and interface; so you know if that’s the case? Thanks!
Sounds like you'll be best off doing direct monitoring from the Tascam channel so the latency is as low as possible.
Anyone know where he sells that triaxis profile? I only see 2 tones profiles on his site
Hi, Right now all of my Tonex profiles are on the IK Tone Net store. www.tone.net/tonex/collections/big.hairy.guitars/tri-x
Can this tonex pedal be use d as a mini controller for my graphtech hexpander guitar?
Oof. Sorry, I have no idea what that is
Tell me please, is there a big difference with the plug-in, do you feel the feedback in your fingers like from a live amplifier.
Not a big difference, but the level / input into hardware is nice. I always feel like dedicated hardware feels more solid. Maybe it’s me???
Fk yeah sounds Uber freakish great!
This pedal could be perfekt, but there are some essential Ins and Outs missing: Send/Return for a FX Loop and a Aux In!
With this addet this pedal would be perfekt and because I most of the time play with headphones I would immediatly sell my amp and replacs it with the tonex pedal, but because these Ins and Outs are missing it is totally useless for me! How can I connect my reverb and delay pedal? We all know that it sound like crap infront of a distorted amp... And when I practice at home I whant to play to backing tracks, but for that I would need the Aux In. So it is kind of sad to me, that because these things are missing the pedal is useless for me!
were you connected direct or to an amp that was captured with a mic to direct?
this was the pedal direct to computer interface.
I’m always afraid of latency when using IK products with live audio. No matter the computer or interface it’s just painful. I hope I can actually try the hardware before purchasing, to release those fears. Been using T-Racks forever, great product. But anything to do with live signals is disappointing.
I also have only one device I would model. It’s my main tone box and nothing can match it. I’d like to see how close it could come to matching it. The free version doesn’t let you try capturing, so there’s no way of knowing. Don’t mind paying if it worked.
I do notice the latency in all of these devices vs playing through a complete analog rig. But the trade off of convenience and function is SO high, it’s hard to ignore
the tonex pedal latency is under 2-3ms even with amp/cab turned on
@@northern_foxx Thanks!
I'm trying to decide between this and the Bluguitar floor amps.
Keep in mind that there is no power in the IK ToneX. If you want to plug into a cab you'll need a power amp with ToneX. The Blug is a complete amplifier.
That's really helpful info. Thanks man!
That solo at 1:08 is pretty fuckin' epic! 😯 Would love to hear it with some ultra wet 80's rack grease
Just ordered the tonex pedal, will check out some of your packs, hope some Friedman stuff is in the works !
Get rtx 3/4 series graphics card. It only takes 2~30 minute to capture in advanced mode.
Try one with a Fender FR12 and you will be very happy.
Interesting Wolfgang Special you have there…
Is it connext to cab or just pc and monitors?
It doesn't have power, so it goes direct to computer, or PA. Or into a separate power amp THEN into speakers
@@BigHairyGuitars thank you i mean in this specific video. Did you sample it only with pc? with monitors or the sound came out of guitar amp
I'm kinda pissed I bought the ToneX Captor Box and upgraded to the Max Bundle and then bought Amplitube 5 MAX just couple of months ago when I could of got this for the same amount of money
I feel ya. To be honest, it took me a while to even realize that the ToneX captor box isn't required for the capturing. It IS a helpful tool (reamp), but I didn't NEEEED it!
They said that they offer a discount on this if you have some existing products
Can this pedal also be used for tone capture?
No, you do this from your computer.
@@sveinunghamre324 yeah I figured that out. Should have deleted the question. I think it should be able to and I think it’s lacking an effects loop also.
Does this have delays in it?
No. Reverb compression and noise gate
@@BigHairyGuitars Ok thank you.
The biggest gripe with IK is I hate Hate HATE the software infrastructure they use for all programs/plugins. I own so many of the plugins but I just can't with the software/bloatware they force...
Would love to see an expansion with more buttons and scribble strips
Bit like FM9
I’m sure if this is a success there’ll be a big flagship box 🤞
For me it sounds similar to Line 6.Metal tones don't kick me like they should.
I want tone coming "IN" my ears, not coming out my ears!😂
Too bad the ToneX software doesn't work.
in what way? Do you mean litteraly? They regularly update it.
Mecojoni
Bye bye Kemper
Michael , love your channel and you as a creator but you looked like a news ancher selling gear on this one
not looking straight to us but reading a card , even at the end when it became between you and us as a listener , you were reading something. Just my two cents !
😂😂😂 They are giving these Tonex away like candy... it's saturated with video reviews... they want to sell smoke and plague the networks... they look pretty and people bite into the plastic apple... how funn
It’s junk. Not a single decent sound in this unit as far as I’m concerned, unless you’ve got thousands of pounds of gear to back it up with. Biggest con of the decade if you ask me.
Pounds as in Money? Or Pounds as in stacks of gear that weigh a lot?
Plastic
useless sound
Yeah. Clean, semi-clean, crunch, and lead tones. Totally useless.
Man, if you can't use these sounds YOU might be useless.
sorry to keep bothering you - what do you think about getting this pedal and then plugging it into the powerstation. Id like to know if that would work ok?
That’s a good question. I’ll try
@@BigHairyGuitars thanks! i dont know how to do the whole pc thing with an interface,daw,mics,monitors. but if i can use this to load some rigs onto and plug into my powerstation so i can move some real speakers, itd be amazing!
@@BigHairyGuitars That would be lovely to see. Great content mate!
@@BigHairyGuitars did you get a chance to see if it worked ok
@@edwardgrassel872 Thanks. Yes and No. It does capture the preamp. Pretty accurately. HOWEVER, I had a great tone going with my Morin preamp. Captured. Swapped in the TONEX, but the TONEX could not put out enough actual output level to hit the power amp in the same way that the hardware preamp does. So, it WAS the same sound, but wan't delivering in the same way. So, yes and no.
Is this pedal just for recording or can you use it in a live situation with an amp?
It works into a power amp, you just have to turn off the speaker sim. Really easy. Similar concept of how Poe Poe use AxeFX or a Kemper live. Same idea
@@BigHairyGuitars Ok...that's how I use the Kemper.....sounds like an awesome pedal