I’m Really Enjoying The Life That We Made | {THE AND} Corey & Daniel

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    Married couple Corey (he/him) and Daniel (he/him) discuss navigating their personally hard year of 2019, and some of the affects 2020 has had on them, including the pandemic, Black Lives Matter, and missing family members overseas. The two talk about the life they've built together in the U.S., but also where they could be in the next ten years, whether the U.S. or the U.K. and if they'll have children and how many.
    We'd like to thank Corey and Daniel for participating openly & vulnerably in our project. We appreciate what they've shared with us and hope you do as well.
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Komentáře • 308

  • @jenniferbaah3235
    @jenniferbaah3235 Před 3 lety +512

    I will find a love as pure as this. I’m going to come back to this comment in a couple of years and update it with the love I’ve found.

    • @ferazvansen1592
      @ferazvansen1592 Před 3 lety +10

      Me toooo

    • @the_elyphant
      @the_elyphant Před 3 lety +18

      I wish it for you sooner

    • @july713x3
      @july713x3 Před 3 lety +11

      And so it is.

    • @BabyDoll-qo7ol
      @BabyDoll-qo7ol Před 3 lety +19

      Awww Jennifer, I read your comment and it touched me.
      I pray you find the kind of Love you seek, a lover who will treat you like a Queen and you will mean the whole world to the person.
      May you find your heart desires. Cheers :)

    • @thandiwemaphanga1205
      @thandiwemaphanga1205 Před 3 lety +7

      I want it too. So yes, me too 😃

  • @kaitlynnelson1876
    @kaitlynnelson1876 Před 3 lety +552

    You can tell their conversations are always like this. They are communicating like the camera isn’t even there. They listen as much as they speak. They communicate with each other so beautifully.

    • @jwb52z9
      @jwb52z9 Před 3 lety +1

      I found the way they talk very artificial and structured.

    • @BabyDoll-qo7ol
      @BabyDoll-qo7ol Před 3 lety +3

      @@jwb52z9 Your findings is senseless. Keep them to your hateful self. 🙄

    • @HISBestLifeCoach
      @HISBestLifeCoach Před 3 lety +4

      @@jwb52z9 ..."structured" is what made it possible for them to "communicate with each other so beautifully!"

    • @nreeldeep1
      @nreeldeep1 Před 3 lety

      You can tell it's rehearsed.

    • @rachellerman9204
      @rachellerman9204 Před 3 lety +1

      Wow...felt like I was eavesdropping on their typical after-dinner discussion. I forgot about the cards and the camera. The part about "why is it so hard to just love each other" hit me. 2020 in the US was rough on everyone, but I felt it was definitely more for BIPOC and LGBTQ+ people.

  • @fuzzyness95
    @fuzzyness95 Před 3 lety +361

    I loved this because you can clearly see they’re in love but at the same time, have real life reservations. Very healthy to be aware of reality when in a relationship. They have a strong bond and you can see that. I wish them a lifetime of happiness and growth!

    • @mzwa_ngomz3526
      @mzwa_ngomz3526 Před 3 lety

      very true very true

    • @goindown71
      @goindown71 Před 3 lety +1

      I totally agree with you. You can see that they're committed to each other on a deep level. A spiritual connection. It's beautiful to watch.

  • @moonireads
    @moonireads Před 3 lety +247

    They look like such a sweet couple. I wish them the best.

  • @SammeeDee25
    @SammeeDee25 Před 3 lety +264

    I love watching this series because it restores my hope for love! I'm in love with love and I truly enjoying watching it, feeling it, living it... thanks for sharing!

  • @AtuhaireCynthia
    @AtuhaireCynthia Před 3 lety +74

    I want this kind of relationship, I'm straight but still. The ability to have such deep conversations with each other.

  • @D_A_Marv
    @D_A_Marv Před 3 lety +81

    The look in both of their eyes, one can see the love they have for each other. It’s a beautiful thing!

  • @Flo3241
    @Flo3241 Před 3 lety +85

    Daniels face when Corey mentioned 5 kids made me laugh. That was funny cause it would have been my reaction too😅...such a cute couple. I wish them all the best.

  • @sulekhas8785
    @sulekhas8785 Před 3 lety +38

    They seem like such conscious, respectful and nice people. And the way they talk to each other is so full of comfort and mindfulness. 💛 Bring them back sometime!

  • @Joeytrib1985
    @Joeytrib1985 Před 3 lety +80

    Can I give a shoutout to not only how good this conversation is, but also how bloody awesome their t-shirts are as well!?

    • @ferazvansen1592
      @ferazvansen1592 Před 3 lety +1

      I thought I was the only one looking at the teeshirts

    • @m.d.m4822
      @m.d.m4822 Před 3 lety +3

      I know, they’re both wearing adidas! So cute 🥰

  • @SummerAustralis
    @SummerAustralis Před 3 lety +75

    Basically "the American Dream" is a big lie. In Scotland you'll have more days of (proper work life balance and opportunity to travel and visit family overseas) social security, health care, safety, less violence, proper legal security, more rights for employees, social stability, Europe around the corner. The only thing about the US would be the weather, depending on where you're living.

    • @Kaisforeignadventures
      @Kaisforeignadventures Před 3 lety +4

      You're correct. I'm American, but I live in Spain and that's where I met my soul Spain. He wanted to live in the U.S. but I never wanted to go back. Once he came with me to visit the U.S. he changed his mind. We are both happy in the Canary Islands.

    • @AllenTax
      @AllenTax Před 3 lety +1

      Well America is a turbulent wave. This good and bad rights for LGBT+ are being changed constantly. Aside bad things as trans deaths have gone up.

    • @pastrychefalfred876
      @pastrychefalfred876 Před 3 lety +2

      It's basically proven "the American Dream" is only if your rich and white... 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @simini1837
    @simini1837 Před 3 lety +26

    The Scottish accent is so beautiful and this couple rocks! I hope they conquer the difficult circumstances location wise etc.

  • @brandonjuliuslee
    @brandonjuliuslee Před 3 lety +10

    the way they communicate is so captivating, and not to mention the way they look at each other.

    • @francoisbessing
      @francoisbessing Před rokem

      The way they look at each other makes me want to find my own. Check out Hunter and Matthew they're younger and married and look at each other with that same appreciation and longing.

  • @JW-mg1sk
    @JW-mg1sk Před 3 lety +68

    What a beautiful couple, partnership, union.

  • @TuanLeTrinhMinh
    @TuanLeTrinhMinh Před 3 lety +19

    I feel like in a love meditation room listening to them talking into their 8 years of marriage in such a loving, mature,calm and real manner. Just so healthy a relationship could be.

  • @KevinETaylor
    @KevinETaylor Před 2 lety +10

    I truly and earnestly love how they touched family and love and race and politics in THEIR LIFE, in a very deliberate and delicate way. WOW. What a beautiful story.

  • @Thegirlwithapinkbag
    @Thegirlwithapinkbag Před 3 lety +47

    Great couple. Great values. Lovely communication skills. The love and respect these two have for each other is very visible.

  • @Whimswirl
    @Whimswirl Před 3 lety +21

    I didn't want this to end😭
    I wish them all the best, may their love and commitment last for as long as they live.

  • @prettybrown3829
    @prettybrown3829 Před 3 lety +91

    I feel u! C-L-E-A-N happiness!!!!!! Yeeeeessss

  • @ines-simpson
    @ines-simpson Před 3 lety +20

    They both balance each other out in the relationship, beautiful couple! they deserve nothing but the best.

  • @yjvs1009
    @yjvs1009 Před 3 lety +10

    This couple makes me believe that love is POWERFUL and it is also BLIND when it's TRUE...Imagine going threw all of those issues and still remaining STRONG and IN LOVE. Bless them. Continued love and respect for one another. And

  • @EmEm872
    @EmEm872 Před 3 lety +15

    Corey and Daniel, you are a beautiful couple. Thankyou for sharing a part of yourselves with us.

  • @DonawaVi
    @DonawaVi Před 3 lety +14

    They seem like they balance each other out in beautiful ways - I don't know the ways clearly bc I don't know them, but they have such abundant, complementary energy and love and understanding

  • @syriraqi
    @syriraqi Před 3 lety +13

    One of the deepest yet the most honest couple conversation i have ever seen in my life!

  • @Iris-gy2mi
    @Iris-gy2mi Před 3 lety +22

    I love how they actually listen to each other. That is extremely rare, they are true gems.

  • @yvonnenoel7206
    @yvonnenoel7206 Před 3 lety +45

    I absolutely adore them. These two are on the same wavelength and are committed to making their love work. They radiate couple goals and make you want to root for them.
    #chefKiss
    Happy Pride Month🌈

  • @jenmiller2208
    @jenmiller2208 Před 3 lety +21

    This is beautiful. I love how kind each one is to the other’s emotions and uniqueness.

  • @MrAveryBrown93
    @MrAveryBrown93 Před 3 lety +6

    This entire conversation, is so honest, beautiful and refreshing. Many years of love and deeper connection, to this couple. ❤️❤️

  • @dominiqueeden
    @dominiqueeden Před 3 lety +3

    5:45 Daniel's little embarrassed smirk here is adorable.

  • @Nikthehermit
    @Nikthehermit Před 3 lety +27

    This is so neutralizing and enlightening, not politically but romantically. Seeing a couple structure I identify with in such a clear and honest light makes me want to give love a shot again.

    • @rachellerman9204
      @rachellerman9204 Před 3 lety +1

      Go for it! I bet the guys would be thrilled to hear how you inspired them. #LoveWins

    • @francoisbessing
      @francoisbessing Před rokem +1

      Do it. The pain of regret lasts longer than the pain of failure.

  • @FutureStarHG
    @FutureStarHG Před 3 lety +9

    I always find these videos so touching and uplifting. It teaches me, not to give up on love because that special love is out there. This couple here is so sweet you can see how they look at each other their love is real. I wish them all the very best in the future.

  • @SeptemberBaaayBeee
    @SeptemberBaaayBeee Před 3 lety +21

    Beautiful couple, I wish them all the happiness their hearts can hold!!

  • @TechMelee
    @TechMelee Před 2 lety +4

    I find myself coming back to this video every time I'm feeling unsure or tossing with something I need to talk to my partner about. Sometimes we clash so much and I just want our love and conversations to flow like in this video. 😪 I wish I can follow these two on social media.

  • @NC-qc7wd
    @NC-qc7wd Před 3 lety +3

    This is good therapy! My spouse and I have been together and are now married for almost 30 years and we have never done this!

  • @danielswarovski6462
    @danielswarovski6462 Před 3 lety +6

    Ok so no one will talk about how physically attractive these two are ?! Daniel's visage is glowing so beautifully. Wish they'd talked more about how they navigate the exclusivity part of their relationship

  • @daghettogandhi7242
    @daghettogandhi7242 Před 3 lety +9

    I can literally see myself and my soulmate in these two people ☯️

  • @jonathanholmes8408
    @jonathanholmes8408 Před 3 lety +4

    Their love is so authentically beautiful!!

  • @kilecan
    @kilecan Před 3 lety +9

    Does love conquer all ? Career and where to live matters more than what people think. It’s best they iron these out now than wait when things get really complicated and more room to get hurt. Families can eff up relationships too. Hope it works out for them.

  • @2241cookies
    @2241cookies Před 3 lety +8

    Awww I love them ❤ you can not only see the love they have deeply for each other but you can feel it 😍

  • @Osfrie
    @Osfrie Před 2 lety +5

    Man... weird to see Corey after like... over a decade since I left school XD Dunno if he'll ever see this but hey, I know we weren't really friends at SMC but glad to see you're doing well all the same. You guys are adorable =P Very happy for you both!

  • @suava375
    @suava375 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Hope y’all are doing well Corey & Daniel!

  • @nichole1659
    @nichole1659 Před 3 lety +40

    Lol when he said 5 kids his eyes pop out.

  • @yeye3295
    @yeye3295 Před 3 lety +21

    I wish we could've learned alittle more about their background (How they met? etc.)

    • @AllenTax
      @AllenTax Před 3 lety

      IKR. Be cool to know. As any pets. There are some couples on youtube.

  • @cj2565
    @cj2565 Před 3 lety +2

    Dam! I'm 5 minutes in... This is deep. More couples need this kind of honesty. The divorce rate probably wouldn't be so high.

  • @jaroslavkusy2403
    @jaroslavkusy2403 Před 3 lety +4

    I really like your channel and I have to tell... honestly. These two are just perfect. You can clearly see their connection with each other and so much love between them. This is so perfect. This video makes me believe again that each of us just finds our soulmate one day for sure.

    • @francoisbessing
      @francoisbessing Před rokem

      Yes indeed. It will find us when we are ready and it is time.

  • @MUSICMANTEE
    @MUSICMANTEE Před 3 lety +2

    They communicate so well with each other. It’s beautiful to see!

  • @HISBestLifeCoach
    @HISBestLifeCoach Před 3 lety +2

    What a couple's journey towards REAL love sounds like!.💖 A moving dialogue that must continue to see the light when moments in time can appear dark. Marriage coaching/counseling would be invaluable NOW for the perceived challenges/conflicts ahead. One particular point stood out for me the most - "I give 120% to what I do ("work") - needs to be unpacked in the PRESENT between the TWO of them!

  • @thegaydatingcoach
    @thegaydatingcoach Před rokem +3

    I love watching this video. I've used the cards during my couple counseling sessions and events. Kudos!

  • @magicworld3242
    @magicworld3242 Před 3 lety +23

    Nice couple 😊. Congratulations

  • @chumabanjwa4662
    @chumabanjwa4662 Před 3 lety +26

    What a beautiful couple! Go back with him to Scotland it's a beautiful place with awesome people, you will love it and it will be perfect for raising your future kids. I live in England and I wish I lived in Scotland 😏.
    Ps. Reservations when you mix 2 different people with 2 different lives are natural. As long as each of you are willing to sacrifice and compromise at different stages of your relationship, you 2 will be okay.

  • @chumsnombs
    @chumsnombs Před 3 lety +3

    This was lovely, honest and soft yet requiring of each person to show up fully

  • @DonawaVi
    @DonawaVi Před 3 lety +12

    I'm American & I can feel him on that first answer lol

  • @bridgetnanyange1827
    @bridgetnanyange1827 Před 3 lety +1

    This man is your center. He is so calm it's amazing

  • @camronwu
    @camronwu Před 3 lety +4

    Beautiful couple, inside and out! 🙏🏿🖤

  • @PaulKabera
    @PaulKabera Před 11 měsíci +2

    Corey and Daniel, I have watched this video many times over the past two years. It is a joy to see how you two interact. I hope someday you will do an update. I'd really like to know how you are doing with those five kids! ;-)

  • @FREELEOONE
    @FREELEOONE Před 3 lety +1

    What a great conversation. While their concerns may feel unique, there are so many universal themes. I wish them all the best.

  • @JamesCimino
    @JamesCimino Před 3 lety +30

    It’s so interesting to see how the USA as a country are a factor that could ruin a relationship. It almost ruined mine…

  • @SaintedDemon
    @SaintedDemon Před rokem +5

    This is the kind of relationship I aspire to have.

  • @nawlinsman
    @nawlinsman Před 3 lety +1

    I love how open and honest they are about their relationship.

  • @jenisarchibald4198
    @jenisarchibald4198 Před 3 lety +1

    I really love you guys. I pray that you stay faithful and continue to love and care for each other so deeply.
    Even in straight relationships I find sometimes it’s hard to articulate these feelings.

  • @sabrinalee3208
    @sabrinalee3208 Před 3 lety +15

    They are so cute together! 😍

  • @kadeembest4752
    @kadeembest4752 Před rokem +1

    Wow, this video and couple gave me so much hope!

  • @sandywilson1561
    @sandywilson1561 Před 3 lety +15

    I feel you!! ❤

  • @emoody79
    @emoody79 Před 3 lety +10

    I’m wondering if they opened up their exclusive relationship after their struggles with curiosity at such a young age. They kind of glossed over that, and it’s their business to gloss over, but I’m interested in how they navigated that. It’s something so many people deal with at really any age, but especially when you’re young.

    • @PHlophe
      @PHlophe Před 3 lety

      You want the details of that saucy T really bad.

    • @Unicorn-jj2og
      @Unicorn-jj2og Před rokem

      @@PHlophe 😂😂😂😂

  • @Jortyunofficial
    @Jortyunofficial Před 4 měsíci +3

    This is making me accept that I can fall in love with a man and it can be beautiful. I want this

    • @TheSkinDeep
      @TheSkinDeep  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Incredible comment, so inspiring ❤️ love you!!!

  • @mart5226
    @mart5226 Před 3 lety +1

    I like how the person on the left talks about 'clean happiness' as it is something I care about a lot, but don't see in friends as much.

  • @magnify_coffee
    @magnify_coffee Před 3 lety +8

    They are beautiful 🙏🏻🙏🏻😌😌

  • @cj2565
    @cj2565 Před 3 lety

    Thank you guys for being so honest and vulnerable and being willing to share it with us. Continue to Love each other always! God Bless you.
    💚💜💛💙❤

  • @movesfordayes9791
    @movesfordayes9791 Před 3 lety +3

    They're both so sweet 😍😍 blessings to them on their path💜

  • @calvinharris4590
    @calvinharris4590 Před rokem +1

    I need them to start a pod cast! I love their relationship. They sound like me and my partner

  • @marsincharge
    @marsincharge Před 3 lety +5

    As an American, I would be on the first place out to Scotland XD lol its always been a dream of mine to at least visit there.

  • @danilonascimento9901
    @danilonascimento9901 Před 3 lety +3

    This is insanely good. And inspiring.

  • @rifkinr4660
    @rifkinr4660 Před 3 lety +1

    So, I’m crying. They sound so genuine

  • @mrdavidgreen6242
    @mrdavidgreen6242 Před 3 lety +2

    I'm in total awe. I love them.

  • @oh_lalala
    @oh_lalala Před 3 lety +1

    Wow, that was packed with so much beauty and clarity! I feel very inspired by them.

  • @meeka2702
    @meeka2702 Před 3 lety +1

    Everyone deserves happiness and love....

  • @catreeanasaunders8573
    @catreeanasaunders8573 Před 3 lety

    OH MY GOSH! Wow how beautiful are these too….what an outstanding example of a relationship they have shared with us….so so much gratitude 💕

  • @uilliamunknown4844
    @uilliamunknown4844 Před 3 lety +1

    I’m happy for them. Long may the reign.

  • @JP-hj1il
    @JP-hj1il Před 11 měsíci

    That last question and answer from both. Bravo!!!

  • @drewchase6577
    @drewchase6577 Před 3 lety +2

    Their families need 2let these grown men live their lives. They need to be free to explore who they are as a couple.
    I'd move to the UK in a heartbeat 💓

    • @rachellerman9204
      @rachellerman9204 Před 3 lety

      Their folks are like "you got 8 years, but time's up. Bring us grandbabies!"

    • @drewchase6577
      @drewchase6577 Před 3 lety

      @@rachellerman9204 yeah 8 years... they were talking like they were a new couple. They should have had this sorted 4-5years into it.

  • @storiesbyalan
    @storiesbyalan Před 3 lety +1

    this truly hit home so deeply

  • @im_just_vidu
    @im_just_vidu Před rokem +1

    Love radiates through their eyes

  • @dthompson1313
    @dthompson1313 Před 3 lety +1

    Beautiful couple. Wishing them many years of happiness ❤

  • @dannyray9375
    @dannyray9375 Před 3 lety +1

    Gosh! They make such a beautiful couple! Wow! I'm jealous! lol. Congratulations and All The Best and Best Wishes To Them--Both!!!

  • @shyslayer
    @shyslayer Před 3 lety +2

    God, it's me again...they're so lucky to have each other im so jealous.

  • @memecountry1013
    @memecountry1013 Před 3 lety +1

    10:21- 10:25 was hilarious when his face was like wait what? Five kids!!!💀🤭.

  • @Bcdf-ei9el
    @Bcdf-ei9el Před 3 lety +1

    Beautiful conversation!

  • @memecountry1013
    @memecountry1013 Před 3 lety

    Wow this is what love should be honesty, compassion, comfort and beauty in a relationship just wonderful😌💖.

  • @rmoore87
    @rmoore87 Před 3 lety +2

    *cries in Forever Alone*

  • @BlueLu18
    @BlueLu18 Před 3 lety

    I think it’s sad he felt he couldn’t open up to his partner regardless of the times ... that is their relationship and it’s so important to communicate your every concern whilst being fully conscious and sensitive. It is very turbulent times but now more than ever we need to keep everyone above water...

  • @happinesssamuel5643
    @happinesssamuel5643 Před 3 lety +8

    Love them.

  • @marylenehall405
    @marylenehall405 Před 3 lety

    This felt so pure and natural 😍😍🙌🙌🙌

  • @BBlackmen
    @BBlackmen Před 3 lety +6

    I'd leave America in a heart beat

  • @sonquatsch8585
    @sonquatsch8585 Před 3 lety +22

    gorgeous couple inside and out. black&white male love is so extremely rare, it's the most rare of all the love, and therefore when real incredibly beautiful. the world does not want to see two guys in love, and definitely not a white guy with a black guy, but its just breathtaking.

    • @Lil08103
      @Lil08103 Před 3 lety +9

      i dunno. seems like most out blk men in relationships are with white men. i think there is a greater discomfort in media seeing two out blk men together. within the context of gay relationships, i dont think seeing a blk man with white guy is that rare.

    • @sonquatsch8585
      @sonquatsch8585 Před 3 lety

      @@Lil08103 its extremely rare actually if u look at all relational pairings. i dont mean a fck either that happens for a few months. i mean a real relationship where the default is monogamy. its exceedingly rare and your comment isnt even related to mine. u say when a blk dude is in a relation its frequently with a white dude. even if that is true.. compared to what? READ, MILLENNIAL, READ.

    • @Lil08103
      @Lil08103 Před 3 lety +4

      @@sonquatsch8585 1. your overreaction here is kinda weird but i understand it has nothing to do with me. 2. you said blk and white gay love is "the rarest form of love" and the world especially doesn't want to see this form of gay love. meanwhile, several blk gay actors, including jussie smollett, have reported having to fight their shows' producers to cast another blk actor as their love interests bc, according to them, the producers were "more comfortable" with them in interracial relationship with a white guy. i think that addresses pretty directly your idea about the public's comfort/ discomfort with the interracial component of gay unions. 3. again, i'd argue that most visible relationships gay blk men are in are with white men. 4. caps do not make an argument stronger. just makes you look emotional.

    • @sonquatsch8585
      @sonquatsch8585 Před 3 lety

      @@Lil08103 read, millennial, read ! !

    • @sonquatsch8585
      @sonquatsch8585 Před 3 lety

      @@bbb12124 correct. thats why seeing this seemingly clichéless relationship makes my heart sing cuz trust they have had to overcome some mess that they didnt even discuss in this video.
      try going on an interracial blk/wht gay male date, it's ABSURD from how many directions the racism.comes. absurd. and thats just the first date. these two handsome masculine dudes are a RARITY all over this planet and they need to b recognized for sticking it out this long, and, brother alluded to
      this when he spoke of the world being against their union. ill say it again, u N.E.V.E.R. see this. a real chocolate and a real vanilla brother together WITH their families involved too ! the kumbayah is real and deep with this union. mad respect.

  • @benoitrafeli8320
    @benoitrafeli8320 Před 3 lety +1

    The purity of it all 💜

  • @PhilipSteeves
    @PhilipSteeves Před 3 lety +1

    What nice young men, keep communicating!

  • @dantefields98
    @dantefields98 Před 3 lety

    “ Clean happiness “ I love that

  • @LoveLakesAndStuff
    @LoveLakesAndStuff Před 3 lety +1

    This was very sweet

  • @byrondavis3772
    @byrondavis3772 Před 3 lety

    im encouraged from you guys relationship and two key words come forth Love and Communication

  • @Aleakwe
    @Aleakwe Před rokem

    thank you. love this couple. great questions and honest responses. values i share/ i don't have the words. they said how i feel. don't know why this came up on mt TL but giving thanks for the timing