Did the Judge In Read Do The Right Thing Sealing Juror Names? + Proctor Suspended Without Pay
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Chapters:
00:00 Welcome
00:51 Intro
01:12 Order of Impoundment
10:14 Will We Have Answers Within Next 10 Days?
11:24 MA Rules On Impoundment Procedure
16:15 Trooper Proctor Update
22:30 Conclusion
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The ONLY reason Proctor got suspended was because of the National attention this case received...
There is NO WAY this was the first time he acted like that... he texted those things to his supervisor ffs... this doesn't happen over night it's a deeply rooted issue 💯
Hell he wouldnt be suspended if Lally lost. Karen had to be found guilty on something. Its a case everybody is covering their asses.
💯 That's exactly what I think other wise they would have done it ages ago not after the case aired, they knew about all his wrong doing along time ago
i worry he’ll be reinstated when media attention moves on
I think there is another case in which he is being investigated simultaneously, so I'm not so sure this is purely in relation to KR , it may actually be to draw heat away from the PD from other cases coming up..yesterday I saw part of a public Canton town meeting. Interesting to see how some people do indeed have quite a ' managerial ' hold on that town and how pissed some people really are...
Who were Proctor's supervisors that he text who did nothing? How are they being disciplined?
Proctor's wife said she was proud of him and supports him. Now she can fully support him. 😐
Good one! 😂
FACTS!! lololol
So true! She can certainly enjoy time with him at home too! 😂
I’d support him too..what I don’t support is losing your job over personal text messages. If all people lost their job over what they say about others NO ONE would have a job. You Karen colon inhabitants need to wake up. Let’s down a police officer who has done so much good in his career for talking about murder suspect? Her own attorney stood up in court and outed all her medical conditions. She should fire them. Slimy attorneys. Everything Proctor said was the TRUTH!!! I hope he is only suspended a short time just to shut the vulchers up. The FOP is a strong organization and what is being done is WRONG. He’ll appeal and be reinstated. Trust. You crazies need to really just mind your own business and stop trying to ruin everyone’s lives..you know like Karen ending Johns..let’s lift the murderer up? Crazies.
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I watched two retired NYC cops last night. They believe the whole MSP should be facing consequences as there is no way his superiors didn’t know everything. They also believe no way did O’Keefe was hit by a car. They are embarrassed as cops and totally believe it was a cover up.
Scary!
There was no forensic evidence that he was hit by a car. This is so true. Case closed!!!
Duty Ron channel? I like those two retired NYC cops.
Ya well this is mass where family members get u In goodluck trying to get a cop out they dropped him like a nfl team would have to drop a domestic violence player due to ratings not that they really care
@@kylebaddog5084 they do seem to be the epitome of everything corrupt cops
The truth always comes out. The Judge tried hard to control every aspect of this trial & Jury. I hope there is an investigation on the Judge.
💯 agree
I have seen a few comments like this. I watched the trial and didn't see or didn't pick up on anything like that. Can you explain how, what i am potentially missing?
@@JustMe-hc5xyPeople who disagreed with her rulings or her demeanor are very pro-judicial corruption. There was no judicial corruption here. That’s not how this works.
@@JustMe-hc5xyseriously?
Judge was from the Start bias
She’s not worried about them, she’s worried about herself
This judge went too far trying to control the narrative in her court room and now this mess!
She was biased the whole way. I hope there are consequences for her actions. And the huge error she made in the end was intentional. Now let the chips fall where they may.
Auntie Bev is clearly a big baby cause she didnt get her way. She is pissed that thanks to the Ashleigh Banfield report Jackson knows he pretty much hit a grand slam home run. I know the DUI charge is still pending but hell they werent unanimous on manslaughter with DUI.
@@mommers9255 and her sighs and disgust was annoying!
@angelarobinson8349 nothing will come of it,Not even elected but appointed by governor...but obviously to this Midwest outsider all in for state and local politicians and corrupt cops. Does anyone remember Brian Albert was too Boston Cop like John suddenly retired after John found dead in his front yard...really no reason to search house.. Quick get rid it, and dog, etc..
@@mommers9255 I agree, she created the problem by not poling the jury on each count before declaring a mistrial. I think everyone is in agreement that she should be investigated.
Any juror has the right to speak, and give her or his name, when jury service is over, whether the judge seals the names or not.
Yes, and I recall judge Bev telling them during release, that they are feee to talk about the case or not.
@@Katrina-qs2rlCorrect; the judge cannot stop the jurors from speaking out.
@Katrina-qs2rl
Judge Bev most certainly did not. One thing I took note of as that is normally pro forma; wondered if that was something she might address during her private meeting with jurors post dismissal.
Her ONLY comments to jury after declaring a mistrial were first, to thank them for their service, adding she'd be speaking with them shortly.
Go watch again the end of trial as jury dismissed! Wow, you Read fanatics just can't stop making stuff up!
In some states, they say that the jurors cannot go on TV or talk to anyone for year but in this case they never said that
@@mariaramos-on6hl that sounds unconstitutional to me.
Aunty Bev, enough said.
The limiting the FBI reconstruction witnesses under rule 14 was just plain wrong as the information was given to both the defence and the prosecution, especially in light of the difficulty the defence had in getting information because it did not "exist", like the SERT report. Coupled with the fact that the defence wanted more time, but "Aunty Bev" would not allow that. Lally was happy to use the FBI information re the Proctor text messages to head off what was coming from the defence, when it suited him. There were so many things that were shady IMHO including the sudden removal of jurors at a late stage (what a wonderful way to fix a jury by putting in a report to the court that a juror was seen or heard saying something) and the change of the jury selection without showing the defence the numbers, The objections being handled at Side-Bah, and then the declaration of a mis-trial without finding out if it was all the charges. Sketchy as anything and btw I live across the pond, had never heard of Karen Read till this trial started . I would rather see a guilty person walk free that have an innocent person in prison. This case was fixed right from that first meeting at the Alberts house in the early am, and then Proctor was given his marching orders at the McCabe house later that day IMHO. Many others I believe were sucked in with incorrect information, and then the were between a rock & a hard place once they realised they had been duped. That coupled with the use of under qualified or inexperienced "specialists". All compounded by Lally and his 101 dalmatian witnesses to tell us it was snowing and defending the McAlberts and dragging it on and on, to the point where jury attrition was inevitable.
This was never about getting justice for "the man in the snow" and was all about pinning it on "the girl". There will never be justice for OJO, because this investigation was rigged to make sure of that. I just wonder how Paul O'Keefe will feel in later years when he realises that and once the McAlberts have dumped him like a bag of trash once they no longer feel in legal jeopardy.
This is by far the best written comment regarding the Karen Read trial posted. Thank you.
100%🎯
This right here! 🎯
I will never Trust the judicial system after the bs I’ve seen with trials online
Incredible. God help us.
I am glad that Proctor is suspended without pay. The MA taxpayers should not have to pay him.
I have read about police officers who were fired and they were reinstated with back pay by a hearing officer.
Proctor driving in his cruiser drunk with another cop.
Other guy too drunk to remember where his gun and badge is. This alone should be grounds to kick him out!!
What? So he investigated read for driving drunk as part of thr charges and helping prosecution- and he drove drunk himself?
Wasn’t a service weapon misplaced in that drunken incident as well ?
@@LeaSeddblahahaha what?
@@domenicgalata1470yes I think left in another’s vehicle.
@@domenicgalata1470 Yes. Kevin Albert messaged Procter asking if he knew where his badge and service weapon was.
People are passionate about this case because police corruption is involved. We feel even more unsafe having uncovered yet another town that has a corrupt police dept that is supposed to protect and serve the citizens.
I agree-we all feel vulnerable to being falsely accused by the cops. Especially peaceful protesters.
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One juror mentioned she felt intimidated by Brian and Colin Albert sitting in the courtroom on the last day. They were "invited" by Paul Okeefe
Did they ? Did they though? The hearsay motion said higgins name only. So what are you doing? Adding to the hearsay?
They meant Higgins
@@007nadineL Whose they? Apparently based on hearsay!
The judge should never have allowed prosecution witnesses into the courtroom on the day of closing arguments. She inadvertently caused intimidation of the jury herself. Of what value would it be to reveal the jurors names?
Also, good luck to them finding a jury for any imposing retrial..
*advertently
@@Tamara-id1pe good point
Very much so deliberate.
Free courtroom
Exactly!!! That was, IMO, serious intimidation!!! I mean, come on...the 3 most prolific liars!?!
It seems like a town where everyone knows eachother I bet the McAlberts and O'Keeffe's know some of the jurors, not as in friends but Joe blogs work here and Jane blogs is so and so's mum, wife sister aunt etc
The diff in this judge and the judge in the Daybell case is mind blowing. Some ppl carry themselves with dignity, others don’t.
No kidding, Judge Boyce is amazing!
Like night and Day. Boyce is the real deal!!!
Judge Boyce could get real anal about cellphones but I honestly felt the reason he allowed cameras because he felt bad denying Tammy's dieing mother the opportunity to view the trial .
@@therealz360z7 true, but I think in the age of cellphones, you have to be super strict. Give an inch and the public will take a mile, even if unintentional.
Either way though, that was about controlling the courtroom conduct, not controlling the narrative and having a bad attitude lol
I am glad they let cameras in. I was mad Boyce didn’t let cameras in Lori’s trial, although at the end, I totally understood why. The way she loved the attention was disgusting. It was also concerning because of the mental health aspect.
In the end, if I had to sit on trial, I’d 10000000% pick Boyce over this hack job of a judge.
Well said!!!
This case is divisive because people get angry when there’s obvious corruption and innocent people are harmed.
Massachusetts FBI- it looks like it’s up to you to do the right thing and investigate. Please FBI get some brass balls and do something about this corruption.
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Totally agree! 👍🏻
The FBI may have a field office in locations around Massachusetts, but it is not a Massachusetts agency. It is a federal organization and is part of the Department of Justice.
Auntie Bev is as CROOKED as they come
What factual basis supports your claims?
@@bethmccrae2714haters some need proof. They just slander.
Agreed. She is SHADY. She hates Karen Read and wants to lick her up and will do anything to achieve it.
@@bethmccrae2714 honestly? The way she carries herself as if she doesn’t even want to be doing her job. Everything seems to bother her. I wouldn’t want a judge like that, would you? Especially when there’s obvious bias. I’m not saying she was in on a conspiracy etc, but she had an attitude problem towards one side more than the other. Maybe she’s got a chip on her shoulder, or just has a back story with Read’s lawyers in the past.. idk. BUT there is zero excuse for her lack of professionalism.
For ME that’s crooked. The last two trials I watched were this one and the Daybell case. Which judge would you rather have if you were being accused of something? Right. There should be a standard of conduct for such an important job where ppl’s lives are on the line. She dropped the ball there at a minimum… So crooked in my book. It only takes a person with any sense to see that just by comparison
It appears so to me, in Midwest, knowing only what presented at trial...and this secret signal objection that several lawyer streaming trial, would say leading, then what? Nothing wrong with that question...plus her behavior declared mistrial...poor Mass folks you may draw her as judge
Your guilty the day you arrive in court
He also drove an official vehicle while drinking with Kevin Albert- the latter misplaced his badge and gun in said vehicle. I hope both will be held accountable for those actions as well.
Boy Scout 😂
Kevin Albert was suspended today! Yay!
@@colleenjezierski1845 are you sure? Someone said that he took early retirement or something
Ben Affleck and Matt Damon are already writing the script
@@3_up_moon yes Kevin Albert was suspended with pay Proctor was suspended without pay
The only reason Bev ordered that is because it will show her corruption claiming mistrial instead of questioning the jury about each charge
Thats my question, Shouldn't Bev have asked the jurors if they were able to come to any decition on Any of the Charges, She Dis missed them so Quikly..
@@CarolMarineMomI think so - she should of asked or clarified that they were hung on all counts
So glad Proctor was suspended WITHOUT pay. He said some extremely awful, unprofessional things and the Commonwealth needs to send a clear msg, they do not support that. No sympathy whatsoever for Proctor & his family. There's consequences for your actions.
I’m worried that when this case leaves the news cycle and no one has eyes on MSPD, he’ll be back with his $100,000 salary.
Too bad the commonwealth knew of the messages well before the trial and suppressed it, and waited..... which I feel was a chess move so it didn't hurt the trial so as SOON as the trial was over they said "after what has come out in trial " 🤮 no respect from me or feel it's a genuine sending a message.
@@jelef001Proctor will be fired and there will always be people watching to see what the MSP does with regards to him. No chance he's reinstated imo
@@leannabedore Absolutely no Respect!
Have all the respect and support for the blue but… the police union publicly supporting proctor after his suspension without pay… is unconscionable and is the kind of position that actually undermines (even further) the Canton community’s trust in the integrity of its own police department. Their support in the face of everything we’ve heard from proctor’s own mouth…an implies the police union feels this is acceptable behavior. Proctor is NOT what the community or, one would hope, the police department, the police union… want on the force and he should be fired… full stop. Efforts to claim this is a hardship on his kids are just cover for another of Proctor’s many attempts to shirk responsibility and displace blame. PROCTOR should’ve given thought a long time ago to what would happen to his kids if he lost his job over his many unethical, unprofessional, immoral, illegal, trashy “lapses in judgement”… that’s called listening to your conscience. Jackson was right about him… “shame on you”… and that SHOULD be on the record.
Funny that she’s having to protect the jurors from the Canton Goon Squad
The Townies are pissed
I'm pretty sure the goonie bullies know who they are. They are like typical bullies who are gutless unless they have superior weapons or numbers.
Rat pack mentality. 🐀
And the Karen Read supporters that go around harassing people outside the courthouse daily. They're very "if you're not with us, then you're against us" and the fact that it's a mistrial has them swarming like angry bees. Watching the trial is one thing but don't those people have jobs and families?
Your commentary has been awesome. Very unbiased. As far as the jury.....they would know if it was 12-0 so if they polled them now and it changes someone was contacted. Also the judge thru out the case asked if any objections. At end she said mistrial and didn't care to hear any objections from either side.
The jury apparently felt intimidated by Brian Albert and his gang being in the court room, and him staring at them during closing .. so, there's that!
Why is Proctor the only one with his head on the chopping block. The other troopers were just as compliant not confronting his actions.
Exactly and some of them were his direct superiors.
The defense was correct. The juror form caused confusion. Then the judge dropped the ball by not questioning the jurors. All cases in which that form was used should be investigated.
This is the standard form in MA , she adjusted it for defense asked them for approval, you would have to change the form not sure how that would changed , but it had not guilty they could check
She asked yanetti if he's seen this before and he said no. Apoarently its only in her court and she is unaware. Yanetti iz a Boston lawyer.@sistersquad1843
Intentionally
@@sistersquad1843just because it’s the standard form doesn’t mean it’s a good form. It certainly seems like there is a need to improve it!
She's not protecting the jurors. She's protecting her own as*
As EDB says, absolutely do not go real world on these people. There is no excuse.
I dont think their names should made public but their should be an investigation into this because to me It will look like the judge is trying to hide and save her own skin.
I think they the right to make it their own decision
She is
Why would any judge want a do over in this case???
For the jury to be treated like this by the judge is not right.
I bet that jury is upset and disenchanted with legal system all the way around.
This corruption by police and disrespect of jury by judge is not going to die down.
This debacle will bring a good house cleaning to the Justice system in Canton…hopefully the country.
I feel so sorry for the future innocent clients. If I got Bev as the judge, I'd be worried. #Corrupt
Or the police as a witnesses.
The two crash experts got up on the stand and she twirled her glasses, scowled at them, and showed them supreme disrespect. This murder of a cop by his own group, coverup, paper loss, illicit prosecution, inadequate CW crash expert, and lying witnesses lead to a Constitution hanging by a thread. John and Karen are separate from this world-wide-catastrophe.
Bev did not decide the case. The jury did.
@@debramason7237 Did they? Jury A person said that counts 1 and 3 were found not guilty by the jury. Did Bevvy Blondie follow through on this?
Bev needs to be replaced and lose her job
NO ONE should be at a jurors house PERIOD.
Who is at a juror's house
@@unapologeticallyauthentic Nobody. They are just afraid it might happen and that is why the judge has sealed the names of jurors for 10 days.
YES!!!!!!!!!
Or a witnesses house.
@@jackieblue6116 I think there have been protests out side McAlberts houses and places of work.
He was suspended w/o pay due to the very public nature of all of this. MSP needs to look like they are doing something.
Optics!
He was suspended because of his own actions.
I suspect he wouldn't even have been suspended if the case were not do public or at least would have kept pay
@@LB13394 This is true, as a retired LEO I can say officers are rarely suspended w/o pay unless the case is very public and embarrasses the Dept.
We wont know if it changes because she shut down any polling. She just quickly called a mistrial and caused all of this drama. This mess is the judges fault. This order is to stop Jacksons filing. God she is so frustrating. Should have recused herself when they asked.
She's protecting her own ASSets...
Exactly
No one should be interfering with any case… Including but not limited to witness intimidation. No one should be harassing anyone period.
Just spit balling here all while admitting over the years I've become highly skeptical of the elected, police departments and government in general. This judge appeared to show animosity toward the defense from the get-go and common sense tells me she knows well and probably likes the police in that area, and this observation has had me believing she herself could not be truly unbiased. As for her findings, I believe it fair to ask if she's wanting to seal the jurors names could also be because she doesn't want people hearing opinions from jurors leaning favorable to Read.
And you have to wonder if she told them they couldn't/shouldn't talk to media in her private meeting after the mistrial was declared. I only wonder because we usually see at least a few jurors immediately speak to media after a trial. And we have seen NOTHING.
I believe the judge made a wrong decision she should have let them enter their verdicts on the two counts
They were clearly confused. But that letter was very well written. Said they were set in their feelings etc didn't seem to imply anything like that defense motion is claiming.
The jury never agreed on any counts
@@bethmccrae2714 that's not true juror told the defense that they agreed on not guilty count 1 and 3 read the motion. Also the conversation in the chats say the same thing. There needs to be an investigation
@@bethmccrae2714did you witness deliberations?
I don’t usually follow trials so maybe i’m naive, but couldnt the jury foreman have reported that they are deadlocked on the second charge and that they found her not guilty on the other two?
shes letting the jury know shes protecting them , in return she expects them to keep their mouths shut no doubt
Brian Albert intimated the jury they said.
That was my thought when he was there for closing arguments
They also said Alan Jackson is a rapist
@@Kkay2490 at first that who was reported but later they said Brian Albert. With one should be intimidating.
@@johnnytactical3054 by invitation of Paul o'keefe
@amiek9269 genuine question, who said that I think I missed that bit I'm only following the case on Peter's channel as I'm in the UK
Intimidation works all ways , look what JO's brother said to K on the way out of court 'we've not finished with you '
Stop attacking a murder victim's family and stop lying about them
@@bethmccrae2714is that really attacking? Is We’re not done yet” all that different than “We’re not finished with you”?
@bethmccrae2714 this person is just quoting what Paul o’keefe said, how is that attacking when you’re literally just REPEATING what a person said. While it’s sad his brother got murdered, it doesn’t make it right to go after an innocent person. Karen is not likeable, but she has been proven innocent. By your logic, no one should be attacking Karen read. She lost her partner of many years. Who has lied about the family???
@@bethmccrae2714😂😂😂😂😂 not one person in this comment thread said anything negative about the victim's family...... What is your issue?😂😂
@@bethmccrae2714well hello??? They are lying about Karen. So the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. 🍎🍏 🌳
First and foremost the jury should be protected. If they are not, it could severely impact our justice system going forward.
That should already be happening, why wouldn't the government give extra protections to jurors for high profile cases?
@@julieschwartz2135 but the jurors was the one that reach out to the defendant team
Hmm! Meanwhile, a former president is allowing his minions to leak addresses and personal details of jurors.
Bad precedents are being set and people have no idea how he/they will change the law
@@mariaramos-on6hlone did others were 3rd people talking about what they spoke of.
@@mariaramos-on6hl What would Jewelers have to do with the case?
I totally agree with you! Both sides have been brutal on Twitter! And threats are NEVER ok.
I never thought they should have protestors on either side to much since the attnys coming out on Karen Reed side spoke with them and Karen everyday, i feel would tarnish the jury, or if prosecution did it as well which i did not see
I'm not on twitter I think I will steer clear sounds awful
What a mess! The jurors need to be protected at all costs.
The people of MA are sick of the police corruption thats been happening for years. Not only in the case but ie: Sandra Birchmore. Doing favors for their friends or cops. He was driving drunk w kevin Albert in his cruiser & albert loosing his bad n gun and Proctor drops them off in his mailbox. Disgusting to say the least!
He messed everything, reports chain od custody, missing videos, etc. He also confessed on the texts to drive the patrol while drunken. Kevin Alberts also should be suspended.
if they are afraid I would think the threat comes from the employees of the state
I believe the jurors' names should be sealed for their protection. If a juror chooses to speak, that should be up to them, as long as there is disclaimer that they can't share other jurors' names.
If it was to protect the Jurors then appropriate. But, Bev seems to be looking out more for the Prosecution and herself throughout this whole thing so I have doubts this is for anyone but herself.
It seems jurists want to speak. 3 have reached out to Defense and revealed themselves. Others might do the same. Bev can't stop them
“Revealed themselves!” 😂I see what you did there! Just like all those taillights pieces revealed themselves over several days!
I used to watch STS but this channel is so much better! Less inane chitchat and more legal expertise and talking the audience through it all. EXCELLENT channel
Totally agree!
STS does my nut in. He thinks the show is about him. So annoyingn
Sts lost me the other day when a guest said something along the lines of ‘the CW should forget the evidence and prosecute KR on vehicular manslaughter’. This went completely unchallenged by the hosts or the other guests because they all agreed she had been overcharged…
I understand that emotions run high, but people deserve to be save and secure in their homes and when asked to sit on a jury should be able to expect it. Sad some people take things too far 😢
True, but more likely the judge was protecting her decisions from scrutiny rather than truly protecting the jurors.
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This is one of the reasons I like Peter. We can seek and find justice the right way.
I don't know if she did the right thing for sealing the names but I do know she's not doing an investigation and I think that is absolutely wrong. It was her duty to get a count on what the verdict was when they were on the impasse and she didn't do it. Karen Reed was found NG on two counts of that verdict form 12-0 that's a verdict on two counts. The verdict form was so confusing even the jurors said so.
And as per Twitter she DIRECTED them not to complete unless unanimous, which was error as I understand it.
@@brendas6461that's absolutely terrible. There needs to be an investigation and she can't stop it if they appeal
No juror has said that. Are you illegally contacting jurors?
@@bethmccrae2714yes, one of the jurors directly contacted Alan Jackson, and the identity was confirmed. No one illegally contacted a juror, everyone knows this, Try to keep up…🙄
I think the FBI should be looking into aunt Bev
I hear you and completely agree with you. That intimidation is wrong. But the person that was with charged with intimidation it was such a farce. It’s unbelievable. It’s just more of the same stuff with these people the Mc Alberts
Hell no. I saw some of the videos. Turtleboy was stalking them, harassing them. If he wanted them to lose it with him…they didn’t. Mostly ignoring him. Dunno if I could. Why would he feel the right to do that? He shouldn’t be allowed to.
This case situation is so crazy. People going after jurors is next level bad. People across the nation are picking sides. And, getting very entrenched in their view. I hope they drop the charges and let her have her life back.
Who is aunty bev’s boss ffs ?? Get this crap sorted out. She has gone way rogue
How? How has she gone rogue?
I e been wondering same. How can she get away with her behavior. She has to be accountable to someone!
I live right outside Canton, Ma and you’d be surprised how many people still don’t know about the case…
Jury names should be protected! I do also think it’s time for them to tell someone what happened in deliberations. Both sides should have info to move on in case. They could do it anonymously.
They've already said 2 counts were unanimously not guilty
They just couldn’t agree on the manslaughter charge. There were three charges and they all agreed to two of the three charges.
This isn't TOO unusual in big, public trials. Nobody wants the jurors harassed or disturbed afterward.
I KNOW it adds fuel to the fire on the subject of Cannone's POSSIBLE misconduct, but in and of itself it's not NEARLY the "red flag" that MANY of her other words and actions are.
I served as Lead Defense Counsel or Lead Prosecutor in over 100 Jury Trials for Murder. I was #2 in about 150 more.
I AGREE that Cannone did quite a few things she shouldn't have. Further investigation will determine, we hope, whether or not her actions amounted to Judicial Misconduct.
So. Let's see what happens. The fallout from the Karen Read Case is FAR from over. Nor is the FBI investigation into numerous individuals, state & local law enforcement agencies, District Attorneys' Offices, and probably some members of the Judiciary in Eastern Massachusetts. It's ongoing.
Based on my own extensive experience, I'm 99% certain that at least one of the people who were in the Albert house when John was murdered has already run to the US Attorney, cut a deal, and has spilled the beans about EVERYTHING he/ she knows.
Agree. Someone definitely knows something… simply impossible that NO ONE saw or heard anything. I hope it comes to light and justice is served for Officer John O’Keefe.
If it wasn’t for turtle boy doing “witness intimidation” none of this would be out in the open
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I don't think he or the protesters helped keep the jurors protected. There are maniacs out there, especially journalists, that would harass the jurors if they could.
@@Somegirl811 the jury said The Alberts being in the court room was intimidation
@@Somegirl811 Hyperbolic statements dont make you appear credible. Independent journalists are not maniacs. If they were they wouldnt be respected or followed. They are truth tellers and that is what deceitful people hate.
Jury said they were intimidated by the appearance of “Higgin”( Brain Albert?) in verdict day. Does any juror mention TB is intimidated to them?
I feel Proctor must lose his job. He is clearly unfit for the role he has. From what was revealed in court others should also be investigated with a view to terminating their employment also.
The highest need to be dealt with first
They don't suspend cops without pay unless he really did some really bad things and get fired
I think a retrial needs to be done in a different venue. Too much has happened in this community to find a jury that are not influenced or would feel safe. I also feel a different judge is needed.
No way
@@bethmccrae2714why so adamant?
@@IAmALawyerTooLooks like a McAlbert has joined the comment section.
@@tracilowe9437 indeed!
Which CORRUPT COP will take a PLEA DEAL???
Why was the jury sheet so confusing? Write the 3 charges, each with a guilty / not guilty checkbox...
Look at the jury verdict sheets. That is exactly what they say
Better yet, three check boxes. Guilty, Not Guilty, or Not Sure. In case the jurors forget that doubt equals not guilty - the court can group all the Not Sure answers with the Not Guilty's.
And no, they were not straight-forward. Not all of them. And we have no reason to believe that they were completed and signed, or that the judge reviewed them before calling the mistrial.
Cameras in the courtroom (for those of us who haven’t seen a courtroom) adds fuel to the fire of how fair or unfair the justice system actually is!! Sad times but hopefully the impetus for positive change!!
Ohhh good a venue change would be great!
If there is a new trial we need an outside judge.
Corrupt Judge.
I wonder how Proctor feels about his wife's gift now that this "over" has come to pass. This fool ruined his life/career/family for power of duty. What a shame!
Thank you. Love your information. I agree Nobody should be threatened, especially at their home. But I think Brian, Collin and Jen showing up on last day in court, staring down the Jury was Intimidating! They had No business being there!
It looked to me as though they weren’t scared of TB who was standing with other Press right behind them.
Bully tactics
Proctor will find out who his friends are. Let’s see who protects him. I doubt any prosecutor’s witnesses will rally for him.
Hopefully he'll be so pissed at being brought into the whole scenario he'll start talking
Wouldn’t it have been nice if the judge would’ve used immediate and straightforward language on the charges putting by every question guilty or not guilty regardless on one two or three because they’re more than one question and each question should’ve had its own answer. There would’ve been no confusion if she would’ve done her job.
I hope the jurors are protected.
Thank you Peter. Appreciate all you have been doing to help clarify information in this case.
I think all jurors in all cases should be sealed like this automatically. They can reach out but no one should be going to them except lawyers and if they want to talk. With a hung jury I would think it’s a problem both sides I don’t know how they pick a jury. This case was crazy and keeps getting crazier. Maybe the FBI will solve this and there will be no trial
I agree with this.
I really enjoy watching you with your dad! I love family moments, my growing up really was bad and I made sure my kids had good family time. Family is still important to me in my old age.
I have just one thing to say: inverted sallyport video.
Pre-recorded is OK with me, Peter! I’m typically part of the replay crew 😊 thanks for the coverage
I feel it's possible that the "guests" ,sitting with the O'Keef family sitting there staring down the jury, should be considered "jury intimidation" essentially telling them to get at least one charge of guilty.
There should be no other trial period.
It's over...dismiss the charges!!
You are right on. Internal Affairs is separate and not in cahoots.
Justice for John O'Keefe 💙💙💙
Absolutely and Karen Read.
They need to do a better investigation for that
Most likely too late for his justice.
Unfortunately, police department is not interested to find the killers 😢
@@Daniel-rq5zl because who will catch them?😂 when they are supposed to catch the criminals but they are criminals themselves.
I just don't understand why people have to be nasty or make threats to others on any case.
I live in a small town-- threats are Real, whether by overt harassment or denial of licenses, slander of business, zoning variances, judicial 'favors', etc. Nepotism and favoritism are powerful pressures in a small community.
I support what the judge did. The jury needs to be protected. As a former juror, the stress of participating in a trial can be overwhelming. They don’t need to be pressured or intimidated by random people. Serving on jury shouldn’t end up with you being fearful of your safety. The vitriol I’ve read on the internet involving this case has been overwhelming. I really think people need to take a deep breath & relax. The people who testified in the trial should be left alone as well along with the family. I read how the people are going after the family now. Everyone needs to calm down and let the legal process proceed.
What happened to Higgins for using official equipment and personnel for personal purposes?
I think the judge or possibly the defense blew it by not asking the jury if they were able to come to a verdict on one or more charges. Then adjourn.
The defense is not allowed to speak directly to the jurors while the trial is still going and the judge called a mistrial and released the jurors and left the courtroom before the defense (or prosecution) could ask/say anything.
That 100% fall on the judge
If Proctor was fired… shouldn’t anything (evidence) he was associated with should be from poison rule ? Just asking
He is on leave without pay. But, I think because he stated it is collaborative effort some other cop will take the poison evidence and press on.
I think she's sealing their names because they are going to call them back for a jury inquiry. Just a guess.
Intimidation like marching all the individuals involved with the case in to stare at the jury the day jury instructions were given? The deceased's brother making a threat to Karen Read?
EXACTLY!
Absolutely! There would be no other reason for scumbag Albert to be there during closing statements but to glare at the jury and remember their faces! Having heard how low these goons will go, I feel for these jurors
Free speech
I’m not one who typically doesn’t watch trial coverage or “LawTube” unless it’s a case I find unique/interesting. I chose to watch the Read case as I felt it would be a glimpse behind the veil of law enforcement as the Depp trial was a glimpse behind the veil of celebrities. I watched beginning to end all the way immersed here and in the LawTube community. Not once have I engaged in any disrespect for or against any parties involved nor have I been a target of any disrespect with this or any other Lawyer communities. It IS POSSIBLE to simply follow to learn while remaining neutral… hoping for justice and accepting the outcome with the understanding I can do nothing to change it. 🤷🏻♀️
Thanks for helping people understand the legal processes and how things are very different in different states.
I learn so much from you and your father.
Proctor is still under IA investigation and could still be terminated. MSP just decided that it had enough evidence of misconduct to warrant suspending him without pay while they complete their investigation and determine his ultimate fate.
As a Massachusetts taxpayer...I want the names of his supervisors and how are they being disciplined??
I’m sure you can find ppl that don’t know anything about this case. Lots of ppl don’t pay attention to news or social media. I’ve asked plenty of people if they’re following the trial and they have no idea about it.
SAAAAME
There appears to be a lot of cops and families doing a great deal of drinking. Chris owns a pizza place near a popular bar. Add that to hot tempers and it's just a matter of time before someone gets hurt.
Me and my son have both been sent jury summons for the same week this July. Between watching this Young Thug and living in one of the most conservative parts of Texas, I'm not sure they want me on a jury right now!
Def do! We need jury of our peers that have critical thinking. Beyond a reasonable doubt
Peter is a high quality dude.
I would like to know one thing. On the long ride back from New York from a fallen police officers funeral, what did Brian Higgins and Brian Albert talked about? Was it John and Karen❓❓❓
One thing is, for sure, they'd never discuss going to Officer O'Keefe's funeral.
I kept saying early I thought the first trial should have had a change of venue.. 100% the 2nd
This has been one of the most significant discussions I have heard about public responsibility and accountability when it comes to negatively influencing the process of justice. In general, there definitely needs to be more awareness about the potential for negative impact we can ignite by our comments on social media.
The important thing too is we need for future prospective jurors to know they will be protected.