Wait... Good Viola Pieces Exist? (Official Viola Tier List)

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  • @Pach.
    @Pach. Pƙed 23 dny +1296

    I love how educated they are on everything else except viola stuff

    • @anyatrioli3734
      @anyatrioli3734 Pƙed 23 dny +47

      One of them should really deep dive and convert for a decade. Might learn something.

    • @xandraxandra1437
      @xandraxandra1437 Pƙed 23 dny +65

      Brett played viola during the first weeks of uni. He knows, but the jokes are deeply rooted.

    • @e2pii213
      @e2pii213 Pƙed 23 dny +33

      They know much more about violas, than they show. If nothing else, they played in orchestras, string quarters with violists for years. (Have you seen the dozens vids where they play with violist friends? Or when they can recognize orchestra pieces from the viola part?)

    • @debasritadas1176
      @debasritadas1176 Pƙed 23 dny +10

      What a roast!!đŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł
      I think this tier list shows their personal preference though I thought most of the pieces were really good. They don't love the instrument that much so their judgement will be biased obviously.

    • @75Chopin
      @75Chopin Pƙed 23 dny +4

      I suppose they are too focused on the violin.

  • @Raffael-Tausend
    @Raffael-Tausend Pƙed 23 dny +822

    Viola doesn’t try to be a violin. The more muted, heartier sound is intentional and works in its own right!

    • @KaptnJolly
      @KaptnJolly Pƙed 22 dny +43

      yeah, they'll never understand

    • @taylor3950
      @taylor3950 Pƙed 22 dny +53

      Yeah violins have a shrill tone that I’ve had to get used to (by listening to a bunch of twoset). I like the warmer, softer sound of the viola

    • @yush4673
      @yush4673 Pƙed 22 dny +15

      Whatever lets you sleep at night

    • @obiyobi3939
      @obiyobi3939 Pƙed 22 dny +12

      the viola needs to be 22 inches long to project as well as a cello or violin, but its unique sound is still good

    • @basilharrison3071
      @basilharrison3071 Pƙed 22 dny +7

      Guys I found the violists! Get em!

  • @liviola13
    @liviola13 Pƙed 23 dny +982

    "I'm struggling to hear the pitch"--Eddy
    That's it. That's the quote!!!!

    • @MirrorViewer
      @MirrorViewer Pƙed 23 dny +65

      Perfect pitch boi losing his perfect pitch after hearing the violas (jk, violas I love you.)

    • @mukilnarayanan
      @mukilnarayanan Pƙed 23 dny +7

      Perfect pitch --> ?? Imperfect????

    • @Dragonfly9087
      @Dragonfly9087 Pƙed 23 dny +11

      Finally a worthy contestant to challenge Eddy's perfect pitch!

    • @user-vv1kp2op4u
      @user-vv1kp2op4u Pƙed 23 dny +15

      Well, old people lose their perfect pitch, unfortunately.
      Age is coming for him. 😱

    • @tracyeire8861
      @tracyeire8861 Pƙed 22 dny +4

      Viola broke him. 😱

  • @owenmcneill7746
    @owenmcneill7746 Pƙed 23 dny +461

    "I feel like we just offended all violists"....UM...I think you already accomplished that previously 😂

    • @adamkozakiewicz6766
      @adamkozakiewicz6766 Pƙed 22 dny +12

      The only thing they managed to accomplish is prove that violists are pretty much impossible to offend. There's enough jokes out there that you can't get to professional level without developing some thick skin against them.

  • @harmonyrose7344
    @harmonyrose7344 Pƙed 23 dny +440

    The thing about the viola is that it doesn’t shine with other instruments or when it’s trying to play something “violiny”. When viola plays a completely solo piece with not even a piano, it sounds so deep and beautiful. The piece has to be written just so.

    • @saarxddd
      @saarxddd Pƙed 21 dnem +27

      Yeah, it just lacks an ability to 'fight' its sound over other instruments. So perfect to blend in an orchestra, or completely on its own like you said. But having a viola solo with any other instrumentation just feels kind of weird

    • @crypto-ologist700
      @crypto-ologist700 Pƙed 18 dny +1

      1000 ....The perfect example is the Vieuxtemps Cappricio Op. 55 for solo viola

  • @obiyobi3939
    @obiyobi3939 Pƙed 23 dny +646

    VIOLA GANG RISE UP đŸ—ŁđŸ—ŁđŸ—ŁđŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„

    • @giselle080
      @giselle080 Pƙed 22 dny +11

      As a Violist Yes Like The violins need to accept Violas are also good and The violinist also suck at times

    • @JustAFrog1933
      @JustAFrog1933 Pƙed 22 dny

      @@giselle080THANK YOU FOR FINALLY SAYING IT

    • @yooogort
      @yooogort Pƙed 22 dny

      Yeah but viola bad

    • @kyongu375
      @kyongu375 Pƙed 21 dnem +5

      i play violin but one of these days i would like to own a viola just because i love the deeper tone

    • @casualties9478
      @casualties9478 Pƙed 21 dnem +2

      RAHHH đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„

  • @harmonyrose7344
    @harmonyrose7344 Pƙed 23 dny +418

    I go to see student performances at Curtis often. Let me tell you, their violists are NO JOKE. Especially this one, I’ll have to find her name, I was totally blown away. Talent beyond talent, and she projected like a violinist too. It didn’t sound clunky at all. I think it must be that the viola is more difficult to play because when you hear it played extremely well it’s just mindblowing.

    • @xandraxandra1437
      @xandraxandra1437 Pƙed 23 dny +7

      Hope you can find her name, sounds interesting, and I would like to hear more from her.

    • @stevenzhang4761
      @stevenzhang4761 Pƙed 23 dny +37

      Haesue Lee

    • @xandraxandra1437
      @xandraxandra1437 Pƙed 23 dny +1

      @@stevenzhang4761 Thanks!

    • @chrisoconnor9521
      @chrisoconnor9521 Pƙed 23 dny +13

      Of course they're not a joke. They only are if one is inspired to deem them inferior based on what TSV say.

    • @jcortese3300
      @jcortese3300 Pƙed 22 dny +36

      Of course it's harder to play -- it's bigger, heavier, it needs more pressure to speak, and the notes are further apart in all positions. Plus it's incredibly hard to find a shoulder rest that works.

  • @salathe-el
    @salathe-el Pƙed 22 dny +132

    The problem with people who eat a lot of chilli, is that they can't taste more subtle flavours any more and crave only chilli to "liven" it up. You've chillied up your ears guys. The viola isn't the violin, it tastes different. It doesn't need violin spice, it needs a more receptive palate!!

    • @toramenor
      @toramenor Pƙed 15 dny +5

      Well said

    • @heebiejeebieez
      @heebiejeebieez Pƙed 12 dny +3

      wow I totally agree with you as a violist. Well said!

    • @rossthefiddler5890
      @rossthefiddler5890 Pƙed 9 dny +1

      I like that! I'm trying to psyche myself up with positivity to (continue to) play viola in our local orchestra concert in a couple of weeks, but it doesn't help I've developed 'trigger finger' with my 3rd (ring) finger & so it also hurts a little when stretching it.

  • @deartaeils
    @deartaeils Pƙed 23 dny +123

    "i feel like we just offended all violists out there"
    not the first time guys... not the first time

  • @zarakoda
    @zarakoda Pƙed 22 dny +105

    Viola's dark, meaty, and sometimes muted or strained tone makes it my favorite instrument in the orchestra. The deep warmth sends me. How it connects the violins and cellos together in orchestral harmony is essential... without it, an orchestra sounds naked and sparse. Violas make the ensemble resonate with breadth and life. A good solo viola has a weight that makes the sound stick with you forever.
    I learned a smidge of viola from a friend in high school and have recently, over a dozen years later, been trying to work the viola up again. This list is exactly what I need - pie-in-the-sky pieces to dream of learning. Your violin bias is way too strong lol, but I really appreciate this topic being covered! Always gonna vote for giving the viola more light and exposure on your channel. :)

    • @planetb1ue168
      @planetb1ue168 Pƙed 14 dny +1

      I'm a bass player, I can say similar things about the double bass. Check out the Dragonetti repertoire for double Bass. My Bass Professor Michael Gieb has excellent renditions of each movement. Let me know what you think, I'm curious.

  • @Cubeology
    @Cubeology Pƙed 23 dny +154

    PLEASE DO A PART 2! As a violist, Bruch's Romance is my obsession. Also hope Wieniawski's Reverie and Vieuxtemps Capriccio are there

    • @dpainter1526
      @dpainter1526 Pƙed 22 dny +3

      Thanks for the suggestions, I'm always glad to discover new pieces. I'll go look those up!

    • @worlds2besquad
      @worlds2besquad Pƙed 22 dny +6

      2:03 they didn't rank the whole list they had, there was abt 10 more (incl. vieuxtemps). I guess that's why they said "if you want us to rank the rest..", but they'll need to add a few more for a part 2

    • @juliemichellerobinson1841
      @juliemichellerobinson1841 Pƙed 22 dny +4

      Don't forget the Bloch suite...

    • @FiddlerMama
      @FiddlerMama Pƙed 22 dny +1

      I’m learning Romanze now!

    • @quantum3667
      @quantum3667 Pƙed 21 dnem +1

      York Bowen viola concerto!!!

  • @michaelimbesi2314
    @michaelimbesi2314 Pƙed 15 dny +22

    It’s just worth remembering that all the things TwoSet said about the viola (it’s quiet, it can’t project, it doesn’t really have that bright, clear forceful tone) are the same things we trumpet players say about the violin.

  • @rykehuss3435
    @rykehuss3435 Pƙed 23 dny +158

    Brandenburg concerto in C tier is wild

    • @navredtgot
      @navredtgot Pƙed 23 dny +29

      For real number 6 is such a banger with such a unique sound because of the instrumentation

    • @ulysse__
      @ulysse__ Pƙed 22 dny +10

      Harold en Italie as well

    • @arthurjohannfiedler-compos1861
      @arthurjohannfiedler-compos1861 Pƙed 22 dny +5

      @@ulysse__ Also the Shostakovich

    • @T4TheTidePod
      @T4TheTidePod Pƙed 22 dny +3

      It's the piece most-deserving of S tier

    • @Roititouan
      @Roititouan Pƙed 22 dny

      Dude Shostakovich in C kill me 😭​@@arthurjohannfiedler-compos1861

  • @ThatsABeans
    @ThatsABeans Pƙed 23 dny +193

    0:11 IN AND THERE'S A MOZART LAUGH

    • @k.h.489
      @k.h.489 Pƙed 23 dny +4

      True! 😂😂🎉

  • @fool3087
    @fool3087 Pƙed 23 dny +142

    man, I really want you guys to bring back the more classical music nerd content, where you go deep in about it.

  • @ViolinWithKids
    @ViolinWithKids Pƙed 23 dny +129

    Pt 2 please with a Viola King cameo- I miss that bro 👑

    • @xandraxandra1437
      @xandraxandra1437 Pƙed 23 dny +6

      Yes, part two please!

    • @oxoelfoxo
      @oxoelfoxo Pƙed 23 dny +4

      seconding even if i already know what the tenor of the video will be like

    • @Casutama
      @Casutama Pƙed 22 dny +11

      Or even with the actual Viola King (there's a CZcams channel called "Viola King") - I'd love a collab!

    • @zarakoda
      @zarakoda Pƙed 22 dny +2

      @@Casutama that would be very cool!!!! I appreciate his stuff

  • @Henry_The_Runner
    @Henry_The_Runner Pƙed 23 dny +161

    The one video we thought they would never make


  • @user-hl4kk8wd3k
    @user-hl4kk8wd3k Pƙed 22 dny +30

    At the end Brett says, "Violinists out there, don't worry, there's always a back-up career." It's true, cause violinists are a dime a dozen, but a good violist is always in demand! Though you should only play viola because you love it! (Yes, I'm viola gang!)

  • @Camille-Saint-Saens
    @Camille-Saint-Saens Pƙed 23 dny +43

    Twoset convinced me to learn viola

  • @UXMetalVTuber
    @UXMetalVTuber Pƙed 23 dny +71

    My favorite for a while has been Passacaglia. I've always wanted to see a viola pieces tier list. Finally, that wish has been fulfilled

    • @azesimmonsmusic
      @azesimmonsmusic Pƙed 23 dny +4

      pascagalia is amazing

    • @e2pii213
      @e2pii213 Pƙed 22 dny +2

      Do you know, that one of their favorite pieces they perform in every of their concerts is the Passaglia? Being violinists, they play the arragment for two violins, but still, I am sure they are very familiar with the original too.
      ('TwoSet Violin - Handel's Passacaglia - World Tour 2023 Berlin')

    • @cindyrubinfine2941
      @cindyrubinfine2941 Pƙed 22 dny +4

      Then there's Rebecca Clarke Passacaglia. Gorgeous viola❀

  • @MirrorViewer
    @MirrorViewer Pƙed 23 dny +83

    “Welcome to TwoSetViola”
    I see y’all have joined the dark side
    VIOLA GANG RISE UP

  • @ivanurquia5780
    @ivanurquia5780 Pƙed 23 dny +86

    Wait that Hindemith Concerto clip did not do it justice 😭

    • @yesdcotchin
      @yesdcotchin Pƙed 23 dny +9

      Same with Harold in Italy (probably for others too, but I'm not familiar with them)

    • @phineas1117
      @phineas1117 Pƙed 22 dny +3

      Also Paganini’s sonata

    • @Greentrees60
      @Greentrees60 Pƙed 21 dnem +5

      @@phineas1117 Also the Walton and the Shostakovich sonata - they picked pretty odd clips.... Like yes but especially with the Walton they definitely didn't pick the bit that was clearest about the theme. I also wonder if they might be biased when listening to a fast movement vs a slow one?

    • @andrewhcit
      @andrewhcit Pƙed 20 dny +3

      Same for the Clarke sonata. And all of the pieces, really. You can't fairly judge a 20+ minute piece on a 10 second clip.

    • @owo_blue_ninja3483
      @owo_blue_ninja3483 Pƙed 16 dny +1

      nor with the stamitz either!
      That piece can be so aggressive and rich but the recording was so much more of a light tone with much more rubato and while it’s an interpretation I don’t think it fits the piece very well

  • @ethanneil1055
    @ethanneil1055 Pƙed 23 dny +46

    If they do a part two, they should check out Vaughan Williams Romance for Viola and Piano, it’s beautiful

    • @tombristowe846
      @tombristowe846 Pƙed 21 dnem +1

      Don't encourage them. They're just a couple of kids effing around for cheap laughs.

  • @simplytwosetter
    @simplytwosetter Pƙed 23 dny +53

    I have a strong suspicion that Brett and Eddy secretly love the viola, but due to the mainstream bias towards the violin, they have to join the crowd and make those viola jokes. I mean, I don't know much viola piece, and some of these pieces actually sound good!! They are recommending these viola pieces to us to promote viola even though they are saying the opposite. Long live Twoset Viola!! (And they make good viola jokes, remember, viola prayer makes the best viola jokes)

    • @e2pii213
      @e2pii213 Pƙed 23 dny +7

      They have dozens of videos, featuring violas - playing with their violist friends. They played with violists in orchestras, string quarters. They do love viola as much as any other orchestra instruments.

    • @_ad_twosetter_
      @_ad_twosetter_ Pƙed 22 dny +8

      They do. Every musician does its just the jokes.

    • @antine1279
      @antine1279 Pƙed 22 dny +10

      I feel for them it's "meh" compared to violin, but they still appreciate good music and good musicians

    • @Casutama
      @Casutama Pƙed 22 dny +6

      @@antine1279 For them, everything is "meh" compared to the violin ;)

    • @zarakoda
      @zarakoda Pƙed 22 dny +7

      I've never even thought of it as joining the crowd to make viola jokes. In the battle of orchestra instruments, we're always fondly trashing each other. TwoSet being only violinists means we're missing the very savage responses me and all other violists have to violinists in normal orchestral contexts. (And missing every other instrument lovingly going after each other.)

  • @camdengonda
    @camdengonda Pƙed 23 dny +47

    Omg very triggering. 😂😱😂
    Part 2 please

  • @BMDviola05
    @BMDviola05 Pƙed 23 dny +22

    I just woke up and the first thing I see is a TwoSet viola tier list!!!đŸ˜±
    I am a violist, but I never played violin before viola. I absolutely love the instrument, its rich tone is just so captivating! My personal favorite piece is Walton’s viola concerto, the piece as a whole is so great and emotional. PLEASE do a part 2, this was awesome to see!

    • @andrewhcit
      @andrewhcit Pƙed 20 dny

      The Walton viola concerto was actually the first concerto I heard -- and I don't mean the first viola concerto, I mean the first concerto for any instrument. It was the piece that made me want to play a string instrument. (I started on violin, but that was mainly because there was an old violin in the family that hadn't been played in 20 years and was available to me for free; I planned to switch from day one and switched when I had the chance to borrow a viola for an extended time.)

  • @ana.sm94
    @ana.sm94 Pƙed 23 dny +32

    Yes yes I want a part 2!!! Loved TwoSet Viola, and some of those pieces sound really nice! 😊
    Viola gang needs some appreciation after all the jokes đŸ€­âœš

  • @aiersmai
    @aiersmai Pƙed 23 dny +135

    As a violist - i think we are superior.

  • @tacotuc8553
    @tacotuc8553 Pƙed 23 dny +36

    How could you do such a thing, Berlioz's Harold in Italy is so good!!!! :'(

    • @coasterdragon155
      @coasterdragon155 Pƙed 22 dny +2

      fr it's a crime

    • @ieattoomanyclementines2372
      @ieattoomanyclementines2372 Pƙed 22 dny +1

      Harold crew assemble ❀

    • @tacotuc8553
      @tacotuc8553 Pƙed 22 dny +2

      I'm a violinist btw, I just know ab/ harold in italy cause im a berlioz fan

    • @ieattoomanyclementines2372
      @ieattoomanyclementines2372 Pƙed 21 dnem +1

      @@tacotuc8553 I'm also a violinist but if violists let me hold their instrument I start playing Harold 🙈

    • @andrewhcit
      @andrewhcit Pƙed 16 dny +1

      It's good, but as a violist, I get tired of being asked to play Harold by people who don't know any other viola piece.

  • @adityabhattacharyya8302
    @adityabhattacharyya8302 Pƙed 23 dny +21

    One piece which is missing in this list is Mendelssohn’s viola sonata in c minor- composed when he was a essentially a foetus and just so achingly beautiful

  • @evilBreadD-jf9go
    @evilBreadD-jf9go Pƙed 23 dny +22

    The Shostakovich viola sonata is absolutely fantastic

  • @adityabhattacharyya8302
    @adityabhattacharyya8302 Pƙed 23 dny +24

    Mozart’s Sinfonia Concertante is just a next level piece

  • @anttivirolainen8223
    @anttivirolainen8223 Pƙed 23 dny +13

    One of my favorite pieces for viola has always been Telemann's Viola Concerto in G major (TWV 51:G9). Especially the opening movement is beautiful. Please check that out. Also, consider the following works:
    - Bloch's excellent Suite for viola & orchestra
    - Debussy's Sonata for Flute, Viola and Harp
    - Hindemith’s Trauermusik for viola and string orchestra (Especially the last movement is very moving. Hindemith composed the piece probably in just a few hours. He had come to London to perform his work Der Schwanendreher, but King George V happened to die just as the visit began. Der Schwanendreher would have seemed too cheerful during the mourning period, so Hindemith composed as quickly as possible a beautiful piece of mourning music for viola and string orchestra more suitable for the situation.)
    - Reger's Piano Trio No. 1 in B minor op. 2 (for violin, viola and piano)
    - R.Strauss' Don Quixote
    - George Benjamin’s Viola Sonata
    - Kalevi Aho’s Trio for clarinet, viola and piano

    • @kyanhall
      @kyanhall Pƙed 17 dny

      What about Suite Hebarique? That piece has a good viola part I think.

  • @simplytwosetter
    @simplytwosetter Pƙed 23 dny +26

    Viola king ranking viola pieces, 100% official, definitely trustworthy!!

  • @kathyjohnson2043
    @kathyjohnson2043 Pƙed 23 dny +60

    No matter how many times I teach them, I never get tired of the Telemann solo and double concertos.

    • @naseerahvj
      @naseerahvj Pƙed 22 dny

      Telemann is the best!

    • @leperson5120
      @leperson5120 Pƙed 11 dny

      i have a solo in a concert playing the 3rd movement tmrw and i just know i'm gonna miss that first shift XDDD

  • @75Chopin
    @75Chopin Pƙed 23 dny +32

    Apparently Mozart was so fond of the viola that he played the viola part in his quartets!

    • @anthonycook6213
      @anthonycook6213 Pƙed 22 dny +2

      And added a second viola to create the string quintets, some of his very finest pieces.

  • @fool3087
    @fool3087 Pƙed 23 dny +17

    I think viola actually sounds very nice when played well. Look at some into more of zukermans viola stuff.

    • @Casutama
      @Casutama Pƙed 22 dny +1

      Not just Zuckermann - Tabea Zimmermann (the first soloist they showed) is really good, so are many others.

  • @walterco000
    @walterco000 Pƙed 22 dny +8

    Thank you for your content. I just think it is quite absurd to judge a piece based on couple seconds of it. However, that is not the reason I am writing this. I just thought I had to write something about the Shostakovich Viola Sonata. We can hear couple cheerful seconds of a very dark piece. Yes, the microphone was too close, but that does not mean, viola is not projected well. I had the honor to hear this sonata live and I had the opposite problem. The piano was quite weak. So I don't think it is correct to dismiss the piece because of a mic too close. Fun fact, the part we can hear was not really composed for viola. It is actually the opening of opera The Gamblers (recommend hearing that beginning). Shostakovich recomposed it for viola and piano couple decades later because it works so well with viola. It is so catchy and I just love it. However as I mentioned, the piece is dark. Particularly the last movement. Especially if you think about the fact, that these were the last notes of Shostakovich basically written on his death bed. You can feel the pain, darkness, sadness and probably the last effort to resist the inevitable. I just can't imagine any other instrument playing this part better. Viola works extremely good here. At the very end we can hear a morendo part played on piano, which I believe to be something like last breath of a leaving personality. Shostakovich passed away just days after checking the official transcription of his handwriting, never to listen to this magnificent piece live.

  • @pkmnjss
    @pkmnjss Pƙed 23 dny +20

    Part 2, we need to see the ranking for the rest of the pieces! Would also like to see them try playing on some of the alternative forms for the viola.

  • @leestanford2452
    @leestanford2452 Pƙed 23 dny +10

    Morpheus by Rebecca Clark is a fantastic duet for viola and piano

  • @Yunakura
    @Yunakura Pƙed 23 dny +22

    You should listen to Suite for Viola and Orchestra by Vaughn Williams, it's beautiful :)

  • @carolpoblete8228
    @carolpoblete8228 Pƙed 23 dny +100

    I always remember the conductor screaming “viOOOOOLAAAAAA” whenever I hear viola in any TwoSetVid đŸ„Č

    • @eugenia_valero
      @eugenia_valero Pƙed 23 dny +3

      Violaaaaaaaaaa! đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł Classic đŸ˜šđŸ€ŒđŸ»

  • @mukilnarayanan
    @mukilnarayanan Pƙed 23 dny +21

    Viola tier list done, next TwoSet cello tier list!

    • @bota7763
      @bota7763 Pƙed 22 dny

      Yes! Yes please!

    • @e2pii213
      @e2pii213 Pƙed 22 dny

      It was not a ranking, but they have a beatiful video recommending cello pieces: '5 EPIC Cello Performances You Have To Listen To'

  • @CheaterCodes
    @CheaterCodes Pƙed 22 dny +42

    I'll be real, Brett got it right. The violin is piercing while the viola is more damp. Which is why I'd rather listen to a viola 80% of the time. I prefer my ears intact.

  • @saidtoshimaru1832
    @saidtoshimaru1832 Pƙed 23 dny +11

    You should have gone for the slow movement of the Brandenburg 6, absolutely beatiful duo that becomes a trio.

  • @X41822NR
    @X41822NR Pƙed 22 dny +10

    As a violist I'm so glad they finally did that video đŸ„č Also for part 2 please listen to Martinu Rhapsody Concerto (especially the 2nd movement)

  • @garputhefork
    @garputhefork Pƙed 23 dny +10

    I'll always write for viola. It's a gorgeous instrument, and a lot of players are really open to playing new music.

  • @twinkletoes136
    @twinkletoes136 Pƙed 22 dny +7

    We absolutely 100% need a part 2. When you do part 2, I hope you watch Marc Sabbah's performance of Vieuxtemps, Henri - Capriccio for Viola solo "Hommage Ă  Paganini". It is gorgeous, and the acoustics are to die forđŸ„č

  • @Dodecatone
    @Dodecatone Pƙed 23 dny +13

    Running commentary from me (a clarinetist and wannabe violist):
    Ok they did Walton dirty 😭 it's up there with Trauermusik for best standard-rep concerto for sure
    I don't like the Bartok at all, it seems really awkward (and I love Bartok so that's not the problem)
    The Berlioz seems like more of an orchestra piece than a viola piece to me. It would be like calling Scheherazade a violin concerto
    The Brahms pieces are even better in their original form as clarinet sonatas!
    Didn't know Ligeti or Shosty wrote viola music, will listen (edit: the Ligeti kinda goes hard?)
    Disappointed that the Widmann Concerto didn't make it on the list, it's one of the most creative modern concertos I can think of (up there with Chin's violin concertos and Eotvos' percussion concerto)

  • @sprinklecloud1807
    @sprinklecloud1807 Pƙed 23 dny +36

    I am a violist and I am proud đŸ„č ❀ love ❀ you two set! đŸŽ»

    • @xandraxandra1437
      @xandraxandra1437 Pƙed 23 dny +2

      Wote for part two! I would love to hear the rest of the pieces.

  • @Irishlassmm2
    @Irishlassmm2 Pƙed 23 dny +12

    I would like to have heard a wee bit more of the pieces

  • @taylor3950
    @taylor3950 Pƙed 22 dny +5

    Part 2! I’m just realizing how much less tiring viola is to listen to than violin. I’ve learned to appreciate violin now but it still hurts my ear bones.

  • @francisnot_
    @francisnot_ Pƙed 23 dny +13

    fun fact: with the Brahms sonatas 1 & 2 it was first written for clarinet than transcribed for viola.

    • @andrewhcit
      @andrewhcit Pƙed 20 dny

      But transcribed by Brahms himself, and there are double-stop passages that definitely can't be played by a clarinet.

    • @francisnot_
      @francisnot_ Pƙed 19 dny

      @@andrewhcit yes it was transcribed by Brahms himself. As he thought it would sound nice on the viola.

  • @simplytwosetter
    @simplytwosetter Pƙed 23 dny +21

    Is the viola Eddy gave you as your birthday gift still alive, Brett?

    • @azesimmonsmusic
      @azesimmonsmusic Pƙed 23 dny +6

      if it's not still alive, it will haunt them as a viola-ghost until the day they die

    • @e2pii213
      @e2pii213 Pƙed 22 dny +2

      actually they played that viola in a couple of vids
      'Sightreading Viola Pieces on the Viola'
      '2 Types of Violists'
      'Guessing The Concerto from the VIOLA PART'
      'Violin vs Viola'

    • @ahnasimmons468
      @ahnasimmons468 Pƙed 22 dny +2

      @@e2pii213you are a true two set scholar, here have a phd

  • @hyperaticism
    @hyperaticism Pƙed 20 dny +2

    York Bowen's Viola Concerto should have been on the list. Not only is it a repertoire piece but Bowen was in general enthusiastic about viola and think more highly of it than violin, and wrote a lot of other chamber works for it.

    • @hyperaticism
      @hyperaticism Pƙed 20 dny

      Also, in 20th century viola has became something of a specialty of Britain, starting with the advocation of Lionel Tertis

  • @potatobaby1
    @potatobaby1 Pƙed 23 dny +56

    Two set viola returns

  • @gryffindorxz
    @gryffindorxz Pƙed 23 dny +20

    I see viola, I click! (Im a violinist)

  • @matthewlarios.
    @matthewlarios. Pƙed 23 dny +11

    part 2 pretty please with a cherry on top covered in a banana sundae

  • @Love-Is-Kind
    @Love-Is-Kind Pƙed 23 dny +4

    Thank you both, Brett & Eddy, so much for this episode!
    I've actually been meaning to research and find all of the good pieces with a viola solo. I'd love to see a part two to this episode. Super duper cool!
    đŸ˜ŽđŸ˜ŽđŸŽ»đŸŽ» Sending warm hugs. Stay healthy. Take care. đŸ«‚đŸ’•đŸ’ŻđŸ„°đŸ„°

  • @JaneG58
    @JaneG58 Pƙed 23 dny +8

    It’s 04.00, I should be asleep but here I am, watching TSV rank viola pieces and being sad when it’s over! Part 2, please!

  • @thelovelybones0521
    @thelovelybones0521 Pƙed 21 dnem +4

    I actually kinda prefer the muted quality of Viola because I can find Violin more sharp sounding sometimes. To each their own right đŸ€·â€â™€ïž

  • @AngryTheatreMaker
    @AngryTheatreMaker Pƙed 23 dny +6

    That was great! I almost whooped out loud when I saw that clip of Maxim Rysanov playing Schubert. (He's also commissioned and conducted new works, which I think is fantastic.) Have you heard him play some of the pieces from Dobrinka Tabakova? Delicious, I'm telling you.

  • @anyatrioli3734
    @anyatrioli3734 Pƙed 23 dny +19

    You missed out so much good stuff, like the Handel-Halvorssen Passacaglia, the Glinka sonata, the Rubbra concerto (and his other gried viola piece Meditation on a Byzantine Hymn). Also, Rebecca Clarke deserved better. I must thank you for putting the Bartok and Walton concerti on the same tier - lest you begin an alto civil war.

    • @e2pii213
      @e2pii213 Pƙed 23 dny +2

      It was part 1. Just keep up recommending them more pieces.

    • @MeHesHovMe
      @MeHesHovMe Pƙed 22 dny +2

      Clarke is S-tier

  • @dvdjrv7976
    @dvdjrv7976 Pƙed 23 dny +38

    If part 2 doesn't have the Bloch Suite for viola and orchestra or the Martinu Rhapsody-concerto I'm rioting
    (No really go listen to those pieces)

    • @Katie-ef8pr
      @Katie-ef8pr Pƙed 23 dny +3

      also it needs to include the Bach concerto in c minor and Handel concerto in b minor. they r both great pieces

    • @andrewhcit
      @andrewhcit Pƙed 20 dny +1

      The Bloch suite (in its original viola and piano version) is in the tier list maker, but the Martinu is not.

    • @andrewhcit
      @andrewhcit Pƙed 20 dny

      @@Katie-ef8pr Problem with those pieces is that they weren't composed by Bach and Handel...

    • @dvdjrv7976
      @dvdjrv7976 Pƙed 20 dny

      @@andrewhcit If you mean the Suite Hebraique; there's a suite from 1919, which is the one I referred to

    • @andrewhcit
      @andrewhcit Pƙed 20 dny

      @@dvdjrv7976 I'm referring to the 1919 suite. It's originally for viola and piano.

  • @pauladal3968
    @pauladal3968 Pƙed 23 dny +13

    YOU GUYS SHOULD DO CELLO NEXT!!!!!

  • @chaotic_violist
    @chaotic_violist Pƙed 22 dny +6

    Haven't even watched the video yet and I'm already excited! we either get viola jokes or viola appreciation and I'm here for it :D
    Edit: turned out to be a bit of both! Loving the fact that they actually acknowledged good viola playing lol. Shostakovich viola sonata deserved better though 😞
    I think violinists just need to realize that not every instrument needs to be obnoxious and piercing
    🙄

  • @Bones_andArrows
    @Bones_andArrows Pƙed 23 dny +8

    We need B2TSM to cover “Viola Gang” rn!

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki Pƙed 22 dny +51

    Violins hurt my hearing. Cellos too clumsy. Gimme viola.

    • @tatalia6
      @tatalia6 Pƙed 19 dny +2

      For rreeeeeaaallll

    • @desireerahman4897
      @desireerahman4897 Pƙed 11 dny

      Absolutely. I played viola back in the day, but hurt my wrist and can't play it. So I started cello about 10 years ago. I love playing it, but it's not a viola!

  • @victoria5974
    @victoria5974 Pƙed 23 dny +13

    Yeah finally the so long awaited viola pieces tier list! 😂

  • @Casutama
    @Casutama Pƙed 22 dny +4

    Part 2, please! As someone who started learning viola last year _because of_ your channel, you have no idea for how long I've been craving this specific video. I'm so happy right now!
    To what Brett said, about the viola sounding "like the violin, but muter" - I can sort of see that, but I think to me it feels more natural to think about it in a different way: the viola just has a different sound quality than a violin, it's less bright (and more difficult to project on) which can be a flaw in certain pieces/areas, but in other areas/pieces, that same quality can bean advantage, as it means it's also more mellow and less piercing than the violin.
    That quality really lends itself to expressing sadness, grief, fear (I know, I know, queue all the viola jokes). There's a really great video by the CZcamsr "Viola King" called "Top 10 Darkest Viola Pieces Ever Written" and it features a lot of pieces that weren't in this video (although they might be in part two). Maybe check it out (and it would be amazing if you considered making another video about it!), it's really good and genuinely interesting!

  • @vickyvml27
    @vickyvml27 Pƙed 23 dny +10

    As a violist, I need to know what they think of the Zelter concerto.

    • @user-hl4kk8wd3k
      @user-hl4kk8wd3k Pƙed 22 dny +1

      The Zelter is not so well-known to other musicians, but is wonderful to play AND listen to!

    • @vickyvml27
      @vickyvml27 Pƙed 22 dny

      @@user-hl4kk8wd3k I used the first movement of Zelter as my college audition piece. This piece holds a special place in my heart

  • @pierfrancescopeperoni
    @pierfrancescopeperoni Pƙed 22 dny +10

    Shostie writes a viola sonata then dies. His last piece.

    • @andrewhcit
      @andrewhcit Pƙed 20 dny +2

      Bartok's viola concerto too -- he didn't even finish it, it was completed by Tibor Serly after Bartok's death.

  • @sabrinai
    @sabrinai Pƙed 23 dny +6

    Yes! Please part two for more viola education (and twoset roasting while ranking).

  • @Dragonfly9087
    @Dragonfly9087 Pƙed 23 dny +6

    I'd love to get part 2, it's always like a nice rec list of various pieces

  • @Ylva-xv4fz
    @Ylva-xv4fz Pƙed 23 dny +6

    Okay, do a part II, with Max Reger, Britten, Vaughn Williams, and Stravinsky. And a bonus round ranking all of Rolla's 40(?) viola concertos! 😂

  • @Hochspitz
    @Hochspitz Pƙed 22 dny +2

    I only started my adventure into classical music with my first piano lesson when I was nearly 10 years old more than 60 years ago. My father LOVED the romantic era of composers, most particularly, Italian opera so those were the records I grew up with. He didn't like Baroque music and even only a sprinkling of Mozart here and there. So when my teacher told me I had to play Bach and made me listen to "old stuff" I really didn't understand any of it (or, perhaps just put up a mental block) UNTIL I listened to a fantastic recording of Brandenburg 6. At the time my teacher also taught violin and cello but not viola. I really wanted to take up viola as a second instrument. In the end, I went full on keyboard Baroque with harpsichord, Clavichord and organ. So thank you JS Bach for Brandenburg Concerto No. 6!

  • @sabrinai
    @sabrinai Pƙed 23 dny +5

    4:58 abslolutely love this rendition of the Mozart concertante! Noah and Amihai are just slayyying it!

  • @martagarcia206
    @martagarcia206 Pƙed 22 dny +4

    Violas are so wonderful!!! Please Two Set Violins, I love and respect you a great deal, except when you talk about violas😱

  • @lainktown
    @lainktown Pƙed 23 dny +7

    So does this mean we are getting a cello and a double bass teir list as well? Those would be interesting to see 😉
    Edit: Twoset complementing anything viola (in the voice of Bruce Banner a la Age Of Ultron): oh these really are the end times😂

  • @bach7830
    @bach7830 Pƙed 23 dny +9

    We need a part 2! Im playing the Hummel Fantasy right now and i need you guys to review it!!!

  • @peterwu8471
    @peterwu8471 Pƙed 23 dny +5

    You guys should really listen to more viola - there is so much great stuff out there nowadays, even on youtube.

  • @txbooklvr
    @txbooklvr Pƙed 23 dny +5

    Part 2 please! Also it’ll be awesome if y’all rank cello solos/concertos also 😊

  • @margaretmartha3530
    @margaretmartha3530 Pƙed 23 dny +2

    You two are the best. Yes more, please.

  • @haesueleeviola
    @haesueleeviola Pƙed 21 dnem +3

    Thank you so much!!đŸ„°âœšđŸ™đŸ»

  • @aethyrx5442
    @aethyrx5442 Pƙed 23 dny +7

    5 mil subs eddy performs the walton viola concerto

  • @chrisoconnor9521
    @chrisoconnor9521 Pƙed 23 dny +5

    This feels like more "lets roast the viola for any shortcoming however clutching at straws it is.". Not to mention theyre listening to very short extracts which doesnt even reflect the entire work. I bet if they heard the entire Paganini, for example, they'd be more impressed.

  • @phoebedraper170
    @phoebedraper170 Pƙed 23 dny +8

    The ballade from RVW's suite for viola and orchestra!

  • @podoke
    @podoke Pƙed 23 dny +3

    please do another 8-10 must see performances video!
    i love just listening to cool pieces with you guys and seeing how you gush about them;-;

    • @Casutama
      @Casutama Pƙed 22 dny

      They should do "5/8/10 must-see viola performances"

  • @TheRealFrenchfry380YT
    @TheRealFrenchfry380YT Pƙed 23 dny +43

    "it needs...something" that's my thought exactly for every viola piece

  • @mandyt8862
    @mandyt8862 Pƙed 17 dny

    I missed Twoset's educational videos soooo much!!! Please do moređŸ„șđŸ„șđŸ„ș

  • @christinashelby6083
    @christinashelby6083 Pƙed 22 dny

    Yes, a part two! These were nice to listen to.

  • @twosettersgang
    @twosettersgang Pƙed 23 dny +15

    VIOLA KING COMEBACK WHEN?

  • @oxoelfoxo
    @oxoelfoxo Pƙed 23 dny +3

    you guys are a piece of work

  • @amberhougland7168
    @amberhougland7168 Pƙed 22 dny +2

    Part two!!! Viola pieces never get shown like this, in ranking these you expose a lot more viola repertoire that I would love to learn and others need to know about!
    Love the funny comments lol!!

  • @vulpes9932
    @vulpes9932 Pƙed 23 dny +6

    The Shostakovich Viola Sonata a “C”? It’s one of the great pieces period, not just as a viola piece. Listen to the third movement. The piece was completed just weeks before his death, and it explores this deepest mystery of life.

    • @Owldaughter
      @Owldaughter Pƙed 22 dny +2

      Yes, the extracts chosen are odd in some of these.

  • @75Chopin
    @75Chopin Pƙed 23 dny +4

    I think the Shostakovich viola sonata was a late masterpiece! U also can't possibly rank the Ligeti so low😱

  • @ianwoodrich4638
    @ianwoodrich4638 Pƙed 23 dny +3

    D tier for Harold in Italy with no reason is crazy

  • @will-i-am7163
    @will-i-am7163 Pƙed 16 dny

    pt 2 PLSSS!!! we need more viola king content too

  • @evelynsusanx
    @evelynsusanx Pƙed 20 dny +1

    Can we see more hands-on violin / classical music activities? We just seem to be seeing you guys sitting at a computer, and it would be nice to see violin charades again ..?❀

  • @Heart-wf8jd
    @Heart-wf8jd Pƙed 23 dny +3

    We need a part 2!