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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- Dog Trainer Tom Davis works with a dog owner at the Upstate Canine Academy on leash reactivity. The reason why some dogs have leash reactivity is because of the lack of control and communication on the leash.
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This lady has convinced her self that she knows what she is doing is 100% right and is trying to convince the trainer I don’t need your help
It appears that way at first. Tom is very patient with her not to offend her when he says you are over doing it and confusing your dog. Stop and watch. The dog already knows what is expected of her. Just needs a leader that's not obsessed with popping the prong. Makes you wonder why some people don't agree with them. I just don't want the prong if not nessessary. Maybe I should just break down and try it. I gave away all my old prongs. Will have to order another.
Happens more often than not
Poor lady is so high-strung; the dog seems really good but feeds off her demeanor.
Her saying mhm was driving me nuts
I was just about to post this. This lady definitely was the one who needed all the training.
I checked comments just to see if I was the only one driving nuts. She was killing my will with that moaning. The owner needs a leash, not the dog
I've heard that called, "active listening" and I find it to be *so* aggravating...
It’s a self comforting behavior that tries to signify to Tom that she “understands” as a granted what he is saying, regardless of whether she does or not. It means she’s not listening as well as she should because she’s too concerned with “being right” or communicating back to Tom that she “really” knows what to do..
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His ability for communication to the handler is extraordinary. I do hope the lady was listening to him. 💖💖
Her "Mhh Hmmm's" told me she was NOT... and then she turns around and does everything Tom told her NOT to do (continuously yanking on the collar and providing over-input to the dog).
She seemed almost offended her dog ‘preformed’ better for Tom, almost as if she was willing the whole thing to fail..
Perhaps just me reading too much into it but the thought ‘chip on the shoulder’ kept crossing my mind..
Repeatedly 😢
Ah well, least the gorgeous very sensitive Pupper enjoyed meeting Tom 😊
Oh. My. Gosh. When the lady noticed her dog alert to the other dog, *-And then went WITH her dog to GO SEE-* made me sigh with so much exasperation. She feeds that dog's behavior in every way. Thank you so much Tom for your work 🙏
The dog looked at him the entire time he was handling her. It's so good!
Anytime I see someone overcorrecting their dog unintentionally I always tell them "Less pop and lock, more drop" and explain keeping their arm down and relaxed so that their dog isn't getting conditioned to always being under slight correction.
Totally. I've seen this a ton working with dogs. When I was young I was guilty of it. Some dogs like this can also benefit from a head halter instead. Perhaps the tools aren't correct for this dog.. who knows.
Haltie not capable of the pop/attention getter ,which she needs. Owner has obviously misused the prong from the start. It’s use not explained properly , which happens a great deal . Tom is wonderful educating the owners .
It’s great that we got to see an owner learning and the owner allowed it to be shared. Making mistakes is how we learn, sometimes you just need the right person to show us what those are. Yes, she does seem a little defensive, but she got it in the end, it’s all a learning experience, just have to be open minded. She does practice calming herself to help her dog, she tries really hard, she is just a bit anxious….it takes all kinds and hours and hours of practice. When she gets confident in her handling I think she will get better and better.
When I hear her insecure voice, I know what's going in the dog ... 😢
But then suddenly she grows with the dog!
That must be satisfying job, to help and see people growing
The anxiety goes right down the leash to the dog. I admit I have no anxiety with her untill she gets her head/shoulders a pace ahead of me. Then she starts to pull, with slip lead. (almost 3yr old Aussie) Knocks me off balance=pain and instability. Maybe I need to walk with a dog walker. I think I may try a prong. I can't afford to trip or have her knock my lower spine out of place by trying to pull me.
@@tracytinker it is a little bit a matter of the character: If you are somebody who WANTS to lead, you will not even recognize, that there is somebody who doesn't want you too leed.
On the othere hand there are people, who simply do not want to leed anybody else, but want to be led. So should they have a dog? I think better not, as the dog has a very distinctive sense for hierarchy!
Understand "rule - gorge - fuck" - there is no more to serve a males mind ... ( ... and the females? ;-) )
So: If you know, what you want, the dog will follow. If you think you have to celebrate some esoteric bullshit on your dog - I hope for you, the dog read all those esoteri' books!
If you see how dogs treat themselves when the temper is "not so good", than you lose any inhibition
That dog is so focused and working hard to do things right and earn praise. I hope her owner learns to see that and gain the handling skills Tom is teaching.
Seek first to understand then be understood
Calm confidence. Tom has it. Dog mom doesn't. She is so tense and nervous the dog is on high alert with her. Hope she can put into practice what she was taught for her dog's sake. Great lesson.
Tom has plenty of patience!
the "dog melting" was an amazing moment, and very cinematically shot and edited. nice. I had to watch it again and again 🥰
The owner is a bit defensive too which is keeping her from listening to what Tom is saying.
I was going to say the same thing. She does not like to think she is wrong.
@@sdfaulk01 jaa, that is a very stupid attitude ... IF YOU HAVE NOT LEARNED TO LISTEN: DONT ASK!
I thought she seemed like she was struggling with a mental illness and it was showing in her relationship with her dog. I hope she can get help.
5:39 BOOM! 😂 Well done,Tom! You’re patience was astounding!
Oh, my. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. The right knowledge, miraculous!
The “trust technique” was a bust . . . 😢
I love this one because your real challenge is with the owner and actually that's probably the case very often - Tom is sooo patient and has such clarity with both dog and human
That poor dog. You can see that he trusts you way more than her. If she over corrects that much just walking. Imagine what she does for everything else. 😢
Your dog is a mirror to your body language and your behavior. Not an exact image but a reflection 🪞. You get out what you put in
Sometimes it feels like our trainer is training me because I am a very stiff/anxious person and it definitely impacts my dog. I always said he is insecure but my trainer immediately worked with me for my anxiety, dropping my arm, not being so stiff, etc.. It's been going great!! It's been making walks more enjoyable because I'm now consciously aware and not unconsciously stiff arming the entire walk!
I feel you. I have an anxiety disorder and CPTSD and depression.
I always feel so guilty that I feel that way because I dont want my dogs to feel that.
Luckely I dont over correct. But when she is lunging when another dogs is too close thats when I do get tense to much.
When I see her get that stare and fixation thats also when I get tense.
I try to breathe through it and use a happy light tone and say lets go
But I dont get it right every time and it brings me so much shame.
When I have a bad day, they sure feel it.
When I'm feeling good, I see the difference in walks. Not all the time, but 98% of the time.
That honestly sounds like a great trainer!
I'm forever amazed with your expertise and knowledge Tom Davis.
She is very argumentative with him.
Lol! I love the way you are with the dogs! They are so relaxed and it shows! Sometimes we as owners don't realize what we're doing wrong until we can actually watch these videos and relate to some of the things we do! You make it look so easy and I appreciate the content you put out❤
Being dog trainer isn't about fixing dogs, it's about fixing people and their style of communication with dog.❤
literally stopped the video halfway through and still gave my dog the best walk of our lives. this dudes amazing
Such a good, sweet girl!! A lot of good info in this one. Good job, Tom!
Literally love this,every moment. ❤
Wonderful and clear! Love this dude
You can hear the nervousness in the woman's voice right at the beginning - why the dog is reactive. If she wants a calm dog, she needs to learn to become calm herself and assertive.
Sounds like she was trying and it was obvious the dog had been through a ton of training. Her relationship with the dog was toxic because she was having personal problems. It is very sad. Mental illness can deeply affect a pet. :(
@@puccipower How do you know the owner is suffering from mental illness? I don't recall the video ever mentioning anything about that?
A dog doesnt just become reactive because someone is feeling a bit anxious.
There has to be an experience and or overlooked body language.
And after that the anxiety doesnt help.
But being anxious is different for everyone, some get tense in the arms or yank to much in this case, others do not.
Like I have an anxiety disorder, CPTSD and depression but I'm very mindfull that i dont get tense and all.
Breathe through it and turn the other way if needed.
My dog is very calm. He actually calms down when I'm outside and get an attack. Almost like he knows "She's not feeling okay, I'll take it slow for her" He behaves even better.
I give him treats when we get home, get a cuddle and my attack is gone ❤
Sure the energy has influence, but its not like whenever the owner is a bit nervous, the dog will be insecure and lunge etc.
You need more context. Like how do you behave when anxious, what the dogs experience is and a lot more
Fantastic video, well produced and great teacher
Out of every video I’ve seen this one is the best because she knows it all and your handling it perfect.
I would love to know how many times she says “Mhm” 😂
Hola me agrada tu canal y como trabajas con los peros y personas, me gustaría que tus videos estuvieran subtitulados el español para comprender todo el trabajo y análisis
First thing i see the prong is too low on her neck. Second is her tugging leash constantly. Thats alot of confusion and frustration for both of them
Yep, prong is not fitted correctly for this. 🙂 I was going to comment this. It was the first thing I noticed in the video.
In a recent podcast Tom said when you are walking your dog, walk like you forgot your phone in Starbucks and you’re going back in to get it. I have found that comment very helpful. That’s what this video reminds me of!
This is interesting, can you expand on this, or share the podcast?
Wow I've never heard that before.Thank you for the comment.. I'm going to try that
@@obiiiiiiiiiiiiii I imagine it means that you want to walk with purpose to a destination, rather than stop and sniff the flowers - so to speak - if your dog sees you being constantly curious with the environment, your dog will get the signal that it too should be curious with its environment, and often dog owners don’t want that kind of behaviour, the dog gets confused that you’re sending out those signals and then clamping down on it at the same time as it will overwhelm them.
Whereas if your intention is to go directly to a destination, the dog will only get the message of we’re going to the park and will be less likely to overly interact with the environment around them.
I just.. these videos taught me so much.
lol. Even when the dog is laying down shes reefing on the leash. Like dude. He’s explaining this and she pretends she knows what he’s saying. Wowsers my man you have the most patience ever.
This was a great demonstration. I can maintain this with my dog if we're going for a random walk, my dog also has great recall & is well trained off leach.. this all goes out the window if we are walking with ball thrower in hand. My dog will try lead me to any place she has been before, I'm guessing it's object related. Is the answer is walk around everywhere with the ballthrower to desensitise the object? Or is there something I am missing here 🤔
What an absolutely beautiful dog! Is she a Catahoula?? Reminds me of my previous 🥹
Very well explained 👍👍
Solid tips Tom. Working with Samoyeds I find is quite different due to their nature and behaviour. Any experience/advice with Samoyeds at all? He knows the rules and super clever, but is repelling him with a prong for instance the only way to make him listen? How would that make them afraid to pass your foot if you then switched to a flat collar?
😮omg Tom is amazing 🫣
You make it look so easy. I currently have a Shepard dog that will not stop trying to pull me like he is a husky. The only dog I have ever had this issue with. I have tried your techniques over and over. He has no interest in any treats whatsoever, I have used prong collar, flat collar, lead, harness, etc.
I feel your pain. What kind of Shepard dog do you have? I too have had several dogs ( Australian Shepards) that I have trained without issue. Not the one that I have now. He is frustrating and exhausting. Like you, I am following techniques in these videos over and over again with just minimal improvements. Tried all of the different collars as well. I’m sure you are doing your very best. You are not alone…
The owner's "uh huhs" were starting to drive me crazy because it almost seemed like they were dismissive sounds - like she was hearing what he said but not listening to what he said. Notice how well the dog did when he was handling vs. when she was handling - because he was calm and confident.
This dog looks like a mixture of a Great Dane and a Belgian Malinois. Perhaps there could just be German Shepherd in there but with that movement, I think Mally. I am sure you end up being a bit of a therapist sometimes for people. This owner seems like she is really struggling with PTSD or some anxiety disorder. The dog is more nervous because she's nervous and it's creating the issue. You can't train a human being out of having a mental illness that could have been triggered by something really bad. The dog and the owner are both nervous around one another. This kind of situation really breaks my heart. It's not anyones fault.
She's a great dog ❤
Thats very smart and nice dog ;)
😢 I’m just like this lady, I’m so focused on my pup not being out in front even by a tiny bit. I mostly just stop or turn instead of popping the lead bcuz it’s too much. Pup always stops and sits when I stop but it’s so constant. New trainer started pup on a slip collar yesterday since we only ever had flat
Thank you.
Will yoy still talk about introducing leash pressure to a puppy?
It should be the same with a puppy. They are very receptive learners to leash pressure, so it's never too early as long as your puppy is over 8 weeks. The prong shouldn't be needed yet for a young puppy. Doing what he states here should be a great start to introducing leash pressure to your pup.
@@amymbeauty8765 Thank you
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I have been using a slip lead and strugling. How do I know when it is time to try a prong? I had many Akita and they all used prong, extremley obediant. Now I have a Aussie. She insist on her head being 2feet in front of me and starts to pull. If I stop she will stop and sit at my side. I have bad arthritis in my hips and spine. The walk is great for both of us however, her pulling causes me pain. Any thoughts?
I feel you. My golden pup walks great and doesn't pull because I instantly started training leash pressure at 9 weeks. She's almost six months now and she has these moments when she sees a dog or person and trys to jump up and sprint to them because she wants to make friends with absolutely anyone, and me having arthritis in my shoulders, spine and hips, it absolutely kills me with the sudden jerking and pulling. I just got a slip lead to work on it and fingers crossed lol. I watch will Athertons slip lead videos and he does fantastic with it if you haven't seen his videos. Him and Tom have truly been a godsend with my puppy lol. Good luck to you
Right off the bat on her first lesson she's justifying why she was doing the thing he was trying to correct her on.
“I practice calmness in the house already, I know how to be calm” -someone walk in the door, dog reacts- “WHAT WAS THAT, what was it?!” -Tom take the leash, says someone just walked in- “oh, ok.”
Where is the calmness from practicing.
“Mhm, mhmm, mhm, mhm”
Lady,, relax!
That's a nice dog. She is definitely picking up on the high-strung, very emotional owner.
Hey, how’s your new puppy? I thought you were going to do daily or weekly videos of him he must be almost grown up.
Yes he's grown and trained already.
@@tomdavisofficial wow you were so lucky and he’s so so cute. I don’t think he’s gonna get much bigger or is he? I think they get like 200 pounds don’t they?
Are you using forward instead of heal?
That's probably the word that the owner uses and that the dog understands. Any word will do.
Hello ! Does anybody know what breed it is ? I went through most of the comments, but i haven't found the answer... It's a beautiful dog ! Thanks in advance for the answer !
Your patience is second to none, Tom. I would've told that lady to kick rocks after a few of those mmhmms that were demonstrating her ego and lack of the capability to accept that she is wrong and doesn't know what she's doing. I love dogs and want to train them but am not able to allow people to act this way in my presence. Glad you are able to help the dogs, in spite of the owners.
Being able to teach and guide without alienating the student is a gift that Tom has.
Judging the owner, here, is really not necessary. She knew she needed help and she's working with one of the best trainers around. And...his help doesn't come cheap. The big winner in this scenario is the dog.
@@GuyWithTheDogs it's not judging when you're stating the facts of what just happened in front of you. I don't care about people's feelings, only the welfare of the dog. If you can't plainly see what was going on here, then I'd suggest studying human behavior for a while. As I stated, the dog was being helped in spite of the owner.
@@FAFObozo "I don't care about people's (sic) feelings." That's the root of your problem, isn't it? In this video, the owner (a person) was being trained. That was the trainer's focus, and he handled it beautifully.
Your screen name fits you perfectly, by the way. 👍🏻
@@GuyWithTheDogs my screen name is directed at people like you. Sound it out...the last part is for you😘. The root of my problem is people like you that are afraid to speak truth and call things like they really are. I commented on Tom's patience and that is exactly what was on display here. I didn't degrade this woman, and I truly couldn't care less that you can't understand. I've saved more people's lives and helped more people than you would believe. It's the attitudes of the ignorantly righteous, like yourself, that are the people's feelings I don't care about.
It looked like she was trying to show it’s not her it’s the dog. I think it was her. She was tense, especially when holding the leash. It’s like she has a tick in her arm. Correct, Correct, Correct. Poor doogy
I'm really glad that the collar was adjusted to the back of the ear, its very unhealthy for the dogs to have the collar at the lower part of the neck.
Wow
Yep, the training was for the lady, the dog is there already :)
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Koehler method is the best
Please help! I just got a believed to be German Shepherd (we're waiting on her DNA test) from the shelter 2 weeks ago and she's a mess out on the sidewalk when seeing other dogs, leash reactive to the max. I haven't been able to walk her far for a decent walk. We've been keeping it to just walk around the block for bathroom breaks. Her fixation on her surroundings is insane. I don't want to take her back to the shelter :(
It appears she's had zero training and experience out in the world because she's really skittish and alert at all times. Stimuli like leaves, wind, car doors, people walking and dogs make her go nuts. Oh and anything that clings like keys and leash sounds make her alert too. There's some crying in the mix of her reactivity.......I'm overwhelmed with information and research I've done along with practicing ....
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Especially with rescue dogs, give her time. Practice with the leash indoors and in neutral areas (like your back yard or driveway if you have one) not out on the sidewalks with all those distractions. Her whole world has changed - build the relationship in small bits and move to higher distraction areas when she has settled in a bit.
God bless you for not giving up! Don’t they say it takes 4 months for a dog to fully decompress after shelter life? hope you get the help you need! Best of luck ❤
@@trishhibberd22 you’re right. I have two rescues and was told there is a rule of 3s - three days, three weeks, three months and you will see significant changes in most dogs in those time frames. My shepherd mix was longer - took more time to develop a relationship, but my little girl (who would barely look at me and startled every time I went near) came out of her shell in 3 weeks. I did not push either for walks around the neighborhood until they had settled in more. They were both on leash in the house in my kitchen first, then out to the living room after a week, then off leash with access to the rest of the house within 3 months. If I did move around the house they came with me on leash for the first bit. Seems restrictive but I think it really helped.
Do you know her history? My neighbors keep their dogs locked up in their garage for most of the day.
Perhaps she too was kept cooped up for long periods and everything is overwhelming for her.
So slowly, be patient and give her time.
Don’t coddle her, but so slow.
She will come around and the more patient and confident YOU are, she will relax
Oh gosh thank you for sharing. I admit these videos makes me stressed, I am walking an almost 2 year old doggo that basically got no training, when he was a puppy he was "only to learn sit else he'd be confused". He listens to sit now and then, eats stuff from the ground and is reactive so I basically have to walk as an upside down exorcist to keep track of him and the environment. He has so much potential but being raised by hippies and now getting handled by me whom is a noob learning and still has little saying in how and what to do to help him makes me very sad. I have little respect for humans right now, especially people with "good dogs" forcing their dogs upon us when there is room just to trigger him. Also very little respect for his owners because they don't inform trainers how he has it at home. I can only learn things and hope doggo will adapt but consistency is not a thing in his household. Dear lord pray for us.
Poor dog .she needed to do a dog handling course before getting a dog.
The owner wants to over control and really needs to manage her vocalization with her dog. Less is really more. Dogs are very smart and direct. They pick up on commands when it’s clear and concise. Hopefully, she understands that and applies it. Most owners don’t keep up with the training that was provided for them and get frustrated that their dog just isn’t learning. The owner is 99% of the problem; they just don’t realize it until they are taught by a dog trainer.
Try taking the prong collar of see how you go so wrong
The respond to each Toms command from lady...Ok ok ok
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I found it pretty funny when he kept saying "intentual" I'm pretty sure he meant "intentional"
training people. communicating with dogs
It doesn't matter what the dog is hearing woman, control the dog. Redirect
Mhm
She has done a great job training this dog but I feel she is being controlling, even when the dog is doing good.
this owner has to have some of the worst control issues I’ve ever seen
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She’s there for training but still acts like she knows exactly what she’s doing, that must be so annoying as a trainer
Why are we even using this collar 🥺😭?
Do you know what it is?
Hmhum…ad nauseum
That poor dog! So much unnecessary "correcting" .
This woman has poor listening/communication skills her constant interrupting makes it difficult to get a point across and makes her seem uninterested. She treats the dog the same way, constantly interrupting with corrections. If she fixes herself the dog will follow suit.
All of her "muhums" feel to me that she's not listening. Really annoying.
This chick’s mhmm is the most annoying thing. Every 6 seconds mhmm.
Agree, however it could just be nervious energy. Seems like she was understanding the directions and was able to follow them though which is the most important thing.
she seemed very defensive
She’s not listening…okay…hmhmm…blah blah blah…she is not receptive to trg…poor dog…yah..okay…
Watching this lady is sooo cringe. Can someone train her to not interrupt when Tom is giving feedback with her “ok, ok!”
Why I can't comprehend are people who use prong collars incorrectly.
1. Collar should be higher
2. Trachea plate is NEVER in the correct spot therefore corrections aren't coming from the right place on the dog.
WHY HAVE YOU NEVER ADDRESSED OR FIXED THIS?! I SEE IT IN EVERY FUCKING VIDEO
Haha you need a nap and stay off the internet for a while.
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@janicetribbiani7535 that's laughable communist
No one cares about those Fossils😂
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How would you walk and or use basic training commands in a hyper dog?
My doberman will do commands in my house.
Once outside I dont exist.
When walking, she pulls, I started using a prong collar but now she whines and barks. Sounds like I'm killing her. Neighbors looking out their window.
I run her but, 7 years now, she is still not leash trained because all she does is run.