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No one is hated more than a man who speaks truth Especially if someone stands up against wrongdoings of hindu religion they will criticize him instead of regretting
Don't you talk about Hindu religion, are you not living peacefully here, taking all minority rights. For communal problems, the other community starts it and provokes the people, when we are trying to live peacefully, they somehow get in controversies and start a fight.
No surprise that Brahmins can only see flaw in Ambedkar. They waited only 10 mins to start discussing flaw in him. Dalit community should feel proud on the fact that the discussion didn’t get started with flaws just because you worshipped him and made him God. Never ever listen to people claiming flaw in Baba saheb Ambedkar ideology. He was truly the biggest icon of the world of 20th century. Its very difficult to come near him.
Truly only Ambedkar has guts to said what s truth....
I don't think Dr Ambedkar was wrong/too harsh about Hinduism or about Gandhi, it's personal bias of Mr Tharoor (him being a congress leader) that's preventing him from seeing where Dr Ambedkar was coming from.
Experiencing caste based prejudices and discrimination throughout not only his life but also from the people and community he grew up in, from their experiences that he saw first hand, and living it, I'd have to say that he was not wrong/too harsh.
Blame the people who created it and glorified it not the ones who criticized it.
I would say ambedkar wasn't wrong if the same thing isn't available in Buddhism . But buddism is anti women and even as per buddha he can only be born in brahman and khatriya family only so yes, it is casteist too now the question is did he read buddism because it's wat more casteist
@@jaymabharti982 As a Buddhist follower I can say this there no where did Buddha say that he only be recreated in Brahmin or kshatriya family.He was born in kshatriya family. Buddha didn't believe in afterlife has said nothing about it further more he has females students his own wife is one such stundent.his female students were headed by one of his seniors stundent Ananda. Emperor Ashoka daughter sanghamitra was a Buddhist monk,Bodhidharma spiritual teacher is a Buddhist female monk. Saint manimegalai was Buddhist monk from chola country.These rumours or you can say superstition belief was started by a Brahmin converted Buddhist monk Nagarjuna who divided Buddhism into two with the help of emperor kanishka. They started this discrimination practice of not allowing women to be monk.
@@cprakashkumar6205 haha😅.. ok then reply .. what 8 rules buddha made for women when he allowed his aunt in Sangha ! Can a women reach buddhhood! I never said women can't be Buddhist monks, I said they can't be Bodhisattva .. in which family Maitreya buddha will be born! You follow the wrong Buddhism, correct it .. buddha clearly said buddha will be born in brahman and khatriya family only and that time which Varna holds power he will be born in that Varna .. without brahmin there is no buddism .. there are 28 Buddhas right! So name one who wasn't brahmin or khatriya or even a woman .. 😂🤣🥲.. he was misogynist .. why every Buddha's mother will die after 6 day of Buddha's birth!
@@jaymabharti982 I already said it came from Mahayana Buddhist created by Nagarjuna and emperor kanishka . They made Buddha a, god while being Buddha himself said consider him as a teacher, Nagarjuna started the idol whorshiping.The concept of maitreya came from mahanaya Buddhism.Honstely it's hilarious that people know nothing about Buddhism started to act like they are scholar in Buddhism.
@@cprakashkumar6205 well that buddism everyone follows whatever illogical defence you have . Why don't you give me some name who became budda and from non brahmin and khatriya family or a women who buddha .. there are 28 Buddhas so you must have you otherwise you twisting fact won't explain anything! Can a women reach buddhahood .. then state the condition budda mentioned when he allowed his aunt in Sangha .. debunk with fact but not trust me bro .. just mention a buddha name I have mentioned and 8 conditions buddha said for allowing a woman in sangha. Buddha's all top followers were brahmins so if we start to remove brahmin from buddism then there is no buddism left . How buddha had 40 teeth ..
The man who was skeptical about democracy is the reason why democracy still stands today in our country! Such is life
Ambedkar was a great man for the people of India. No one can comment on his legacy.
He was born n hence we are able to live....jai bhim
Other you would have died by now?? 😂😂 if he had not written, someone else would have written simple.. 😂
You won't understand bro.
We are because he was.
@@rahulkrish9840Paah.. your comment is oozing intelligence 👏👏
Dr. Ambedkar's reaction to the assassination of Gandhiji
“On January 30, 1948, at 5-10 in the evening, a Hindu assassin youth killed Gandhiji by firing three bullets into his chest. In a moment the news of his murder echoed in the sky. I went to the top floor. Babasaheb was sleeping. I gently lifted him up and said, “Babasaheb Gandhiji has been murdered.” Babasaheb remained speechless for five minutes and then said, “Even his enemies would not want such a brutal killing of him.” What a bitter truth in his statement. For three days, Babasaheb kept talking about Gandhiji's personality, obstruction in the rights of untouchables, his false policies." - Devi Dayal’s book, Dr. Babasaheb Bhimrao Ambedkar's Dincharya (Daily Life of Dr. Ambedkar), page 9-10
Apart from this, Dr. Ambedkar went to see the dead body of Gandhiji at Birla House on 31st January and he was very disturbed to see it. The next day Dr. Ambedkar also participated in the funeral procession for a short distance. On next day he went to the cremation site at Rajghat.
Dr Ambedkar's personal and political life if you check ,you can understand how pure he was.. Gandhi don!t deserve the title Mahathma. It is a bitter truth, his scriptures are evidence to that.
@@DONQUIKSOTSubhash Chandra Bose first called him 'father of the Nation '
Raghav Behl seemed to be only interested in discussing Dr. Ambedkar’s flaws. In fact that dominated the interview and makes one wonder about the intent of the whole interview itself!
think about the moto of this discussion .this is not on DR sahab biography.
I feel the same. He seems to be hell bent on spreading the message of Ambedkar's haters.
Ambedkar was the one who spoke boldly and straight forward with honesty unlike Gandhi or any other.
The host is clearly biased and likes to exaggerate. Ambedkar was justifiably unhappy with Gandhi, but he did not have "rage "as the host claims, and Shashi being a congress party good old man cannot help but defend his idol, Gandhi. The biases are so obvious, and they can criticize a man who is no longer alive to totally put them in their places. It really bothers me when Shashi and other Gandhi acolytes like him can just write a book about him in a misrepresenting way.
That was a great interview. Helped me understand Dr. Ambedkar better than reading any book, except perhaps reading Shashi Tharoor's book.
Tharoor politely giving fellow brahmins 4 new flaws of Ambedkar now since reservation has become too old school topic
Ambedkar in his own words said ,"My own view is that great men are of great service to their country, but they are also at certain times a great hindrance to the progress of the country. Mr Gandhi had become a positive danger to this country," said Ambedkar.
"He had choked all the thoughts. He was holding together the Congress which is a combination of all the bad and self-seeking elements in society who agreed on no social or moral principle governing the life of society except the one of praising and flattering Mr Gandhi. Such a body is unfit to govern a country," he added."As the Bible says that sometimes good cometh out of evil, so also I think good will come out of the death of Mr Gandhi. It will release people from bondage to supermen, it will make them think for themselves and compel them to stand on their own merits,"
Thankyou for the quote from this great man , he was so right , clearly , fearlessly giving his frank opinion , Congress indeed was a bunch of self seekers , mostly were RSS bent of mind , barring Nehru .
Shashi actually had the gall to write and give speeches about the tolerance of Hinduism. The only religion that by doctrine does not even tolerate its own. He claimed that Hinduism is tolerant because it adopted a lot of different practices. He completely ignores the fact that Hinduism persecuted without mercy when it had the power, and hijacked when it could not persecute and mass murder. What he calls acceptance should be rightfully called hijack, because it would bring practices within the fold of Brahmanism by completely rewriting the history of local religions and writing overnight genealogies to completely change the face of all local religions and taking credit for them. This ranges from yoga to Vaishnavism. There are living examples of this. If Buddhism had not spread out of India, we would all just believe the lie that the Buddha was a Hindu and a reincarnation of Vishnu. Amazingly, in India the orthodox Hindu still makes this claim without a cent of shame on their face, despite the fact that there was no Hinduism at the time of the Buddha, nor did the Buddha and Mahavir or any other Sramana accept the Vedas. They even claimed it to be completely devoid of any spiritual significance. To be a Hindu you have to accept two things besides being born into the religion, and that is the final authority of the Vedas and the abominable caste system and all of its ritual pollution practices. History and doctrine are the irrefutable evidence of this.
So beautifully put , 👍
If there was no Hinduism at the time of Budhha then, which theologically sanctioned cast system Budhha was opposing 😂😅. Oh😅 I would had been Budhhist Cast system established by Budhha himself 😅😮😂.
Lord Krishna states you are not born in a cast 🎉 every one should read the gita😊and understand the varna system 🎉swami Vivekananda🎉iskcon
Gandhi has done just opposite what Dr Ambedhkar tried. He lost elections due to congress GOVT
This was an utterly biased discussion. the interviewer just spend 10 mins to praise Ambedkar and the rest pointing out his flaws. it felt like this interviewer was forced to conduct this interview. he seemed like a gandhi bakht just pouring praises for dear gandhi 😁😁😁😁 . thanks shashi for putting out the right facts.
the interviewer has not habit of praising ambedkar
Dr Ambedkar is the second most influence and great personality after biddha
first Mr. Tharur wrote a book about all the goodness Hinduism encompasses...Next he wrote a book about a man who was deadliest critic of Hinduism...
Not Gandhi it’s MN Roy who pressurise member of assembly to bring an intellect man like Ambedkar, bcoz Nehru was searching for international expert but no body agree to help in this complex diversity like india….
अगर यह इंटरव्यू हिंदी में होता तो बहुत ही ज्ञानवर्धक होता। जरूरी है कि इसे सभी भाषाओं में विशेषकर हिंदी में इसकी प्रतिलिपि जरूर बननी चाहिए।
Dr. Babasaheb k liye Kam se kam English Sikh lo. PhD karne nai bol raha koi. 😅
In those days he's not understood. If right now he's there he would be a great leader and prime minister of India. Not a Rajya sabha MP as he said.
Thanks Dr Shashi sir justice given Dr Ambedkar
Congress leaders usually won't fully support Dr Ambedkar, because he exposed many times the other side of Gandhi who support caste system etc. Dr Ambedkar doesn't need anybodies justice or support. His life was pure. He will be remembered always!
Ambedkar was not all of a bitter mind. He even married a brahmina woman. He was intellectual in his criticism not the foul non-intellectual bickering of others.
Hindu reform is too slow, many other prominent dalit intellectuals too felt the best path was to reject Hinduism altogether. But average man wants God, he is not the revolutionary intellectual at all. So a few well informed dalit biggies rejecting Hindu faith is not going to make much difference in the small towns and villlages.
Now, as far as the privileged Hindu is concerned, he is proud that his religion has merit better than most newer religions, he feels it is something that gives him peace and unique stature. He will prefer a slow reform.
Dalits need to have a religion that does not subscribe to the hierarchy but is as exemplary as the positives of Hinduism, Buddhism, Jain, Sikhism. Not every Dalit can live without God and religion. The elite logical dalits wants better economy and income, they see poverty as the purpose or consequence of caste based order, how do we change the lives of these unwanted people?
Today, there are big businessmen from dalit and backward communities, they turn a blind to the suffering of the others of his community. We need to inculcate social consciousness in the average dalit, he needs a sensitivity to see the circumstantial disadvantage of his brothers. He needs to work for benefit of all. Education and better income can help them to attain human stature.
Dalit ,s c , s t , is not confused, he has carried on with worship of his millenia old devi , devta all over rural India , it is the brahmanism that has appropriated their Gods and made them into Hindu Gods and goddesses .
Shashi Tahrur is spineless and biased. He didn’t focused on Dr Ambedkar dislike about Mahatama Gandhi and his dislike about Muslims.
That verses which are olso highlighted by youtubers are from his 1940 book about Partition of India . If you read that book , it clearly starts about it being about ideology of Jinnah and Muslim league, which ultimately led to 1947 disaster
are bc muslim ka ky lena dena tu hindu m hindu ambedkar hindu tharur hindu lekin tumko burai muslim ki sunani
Now the social media and people are educated and understand the politics and democracy, federalism unlike those days to fight against the discrimination by the same Indian people who didn't understand his views and interest.
How come he didn't understand the Gita😮 when lord krishna stated you are all equal❤krishna states i live in the heart of all living being😊 read the Gita every day😊
If Dr.Ambedkar was alive India should not have continued with an anti constitutional org like RSS in the guise of cultural org for 75 years after independence...😀
He would be quick enough to find out how the education system failing the country youth and is not able to reduce inequality if he were alive
The quint❤️True thing is you posts almost everyday with this quality of content is just insane
Wow MYSTERIOUS GIANT! 👍
Well bcs of what ambedkar said about Muslims I guess his legacy should be known and we should learn
Tharoor the indian mascot of exposing British divide and rule policy while himself playing the divide and rule between Dalit and adivasi communities using Ambedkar. *Slow Claps*
Good job Quint,great conversation with Mr Shashi Taroor ji
The interviewer sitting facing an intellectual with one leg jutting out is bad optics . Mr Tharoor is so gracious and humble
I personally think that the there was not enough research done on the perspective how casteism affected the economy of India then and also now. The businesses were thriving then also only difference was that they were governed by the British and Indians were workers. Dr Ambedkar fought against this mentality of "division of labourers and not division of labour". Also, the then dominant community was too mentally and physically resistant to accept the oppressed classes as a human beings, so there is no question on understanding the nuances of the religion. The Pune pact was modified so that Mr Gandhi stayed alive not because of some feeling of surrendering.
Also, if you look at the timeline when he studied in America, Americans were open-minded then and they too had the blacks as their slaves. So thinking that his perspective was influenced because of him studying in American doesn't fit.
Yes there is difference between Indian culture, Western culture. Western people have deep feeling for eastern we know that they don't express it, Western people's are rich but they are sad inside somewhere,we should Focus on human physiology. How human brain works, some people thinks they are superior but they are not one day they understand this,
Joke-
Someone asked him how u r so down to earth
He replied - bacause of Gravity
Shahsi tharoor is baised as Congressman. Host is also very much baised by exaggerating small thing. Dr Ambedkar was a human, so he could've flaw/s but the way are explaining too childish doesn't make any sense rather clearly showing their biases.
It is funny that Quint chose Tharoor of all people to talk about Dr.Ambedkar. Totally a wrong guy.
The title of the video should be how shashi tharoor defends n justifies Dr B. R. s stand on hinduism n his revolutionary acts in constitution...not a single predictionary clause spotted in this video if Dr. was alive
Well the title should be buddism is anti women and casteist as example as per buddha buddha can only born in brahman and khatriya family so it's clearly casteist then why still he choose it .. even buddist texts sat women are like black snakes so was ambedkar didn't read it ..
Hinduism religion people are at huge amount in India, Dr. Babasaheb choose budhism over Hinduism, So some low thinker hindu communist negative thoughts about babsahab that they are against Hinduism ,but they are not.
they
Against people's who thinks they are superior beings.
Babasaheb fought for minor communities in Hinduism, Hinduism is very ancient religion,some cruel people alter the manusmruti granth I think,
so minor communities can't head up, religion is not bad,people's are.
Babsahab denied god.
But he was with him always.
I think so.
Who knows god's plan???..
Debate will continue.......
What a shallow discussion. Disappointed with Shashi to entertain this host with no dept with his questions and understanding.
Regarding Dr. Babasaheb's opinion about Gandhiji's assassination, kindly refer Babasaheb's letter to his wife. It is very much available. I can't attach a letter here.
It is one thing to use great and lofty words to describe someone ..as long as Gandhi lived he become the tool at the hands of other political aspirants to cross the path of Dr ambedkar all the time..
Raghav bahl only wants to discuss about it's flaws,,,,, double dealer personality
Ambedkar was evil.
Raghav Bahal seems to be dusturbed by the fact that Dr Ambedkar is being praised so widely. That's why he is hellbent on discussing his flaws only even them out of context and time.
Excellent
Who has ensured his election defeats, sir? Who has denied him Bharat Ratna, sir?
हजारों सालों की भेदभाव दुष्टता झेल रहे लोगो के लिए एक अवतार असामान्य रूप से उनके उद्धार के लिए भेजा गया,
this is what congress think about ambedkar , i did not know
Raghav Bahl is picturising confusing picture of Dr Ambedkar which he was not so raghav is casteist.
🎉 Simbal of knowledge
What tharoor is thinking by decoding the faults of ambedkar, he can overshadow the Ambedkar's dignity.😅
Very simply, he knows that the truth prevails and Dr Ambedkar was much better than any other leaders. His vision & ideas were ahead of the curve. This generation of people could understand him better. A leader like Gandhi was supporting the caste system and many superstitions throughout his life. His double standards in many situations were exposed by Dr Ambedkar. Gandhi as the face of the congress party, they have to find some way to polish him, every day or at least every year to win elections. Otherwise who will vote for sonia & Rahul? Ambedkar's image is very high , and they know it. Years passing , his ideas, quotes are getting more relevant and acceptable. This makes the congress people scratch their heads.
I wish,
If the people's support at that time for Dr Ambedkar were similar to Gandhi or If Gandhi had a brain like Dr Ambedkar. Our India would be in a better position!!
All through the history of India subversive literature is produced in great number at every age...
Ask brahmins caste about their loss of birth right as in manu shruti....is bound to anger the leeches caste
For Gods sake , Mr Raghav Bahal , महार , pl pronounce it correctly .
Shashi Tharur should write a book on Periyar also..
First he was not Mahatma..only this title given by him by...some bast....
I disagree with Shashi that British created communal divide. India was already divided on caste and communal lines even before the British came. In fact Ambedkar would not have studied in the schools without the British education system and their social policies. Even his father was able work in the British army. Remember the untouchability Ambedkar faced during schooling and even after return from US his treatment by a Peon in the estate of Baroda.
Congress can never understand Dr.Ambedkar because he was not like Gandhi who was called as treacherous/deceitful by Ambedkar or chatur Baniya by Amit Shah..!! Indeed Gandhi is really a chatur person..!!
34:35
Why is this interview only dwell on flaws of a man ?
jai bhim
Gandhi was no Hindu!!
Because Gandhi was biased and not straight forward since he spoke something supporting Dalits in English newspaper and against dalits in Gujarati language.
In context of world evolution,
Personal challenges faced by social constructs makes way for challenges for said constructs. Negation to negation from dust to dust.
I am glad for this mortal life. Everything does pass. My prejudices and theirs.
Intellectual discussion are hot🔥🔥
Gandhi is the greatest man ever walked on this planet. He has godly character. He does not hate any in the world. All are equal in his vision. He was against only injustice. Some may not understand him, naturally.
Quint being an Islam apologist along with sashi tharoor a Congressi and Muslim apologist clearly side stepped and avoided talking about Ambedkars view on Islam !!! Ambedkar hated Islam and it's philosophy and both did not mention a word about that!!
are bs kr bc, ky dil ko thandak milti h ky isalm ki burai krke 🤣🤣🤣
@@mittusharma3824 dekh muslmaano se tu seekh gaya baap se kis tarah se baat Kiya jaata hai aur dikha Raha hai yahan.
@@krishnaswami346 m to apne bacho se bate kr rha hu beta tu kon h najayaj?
@@mittusharma3824 acha muslmano ke jaise tu bhi najayaj beta hai ? Lekkin Tera sab kuch yahan pe kyon khulasa kar Raha hai!! Humko ko interest nahi hai
@@krishnaswami346 are beta jita muslman ki bat tu krta h lgta h usi ki najayaj aulad h or hmesha apne asli abbu ki talash me rhta h
The best humans are Hindus, and was it Hinduism per se or was it Brits who used this discrimination to their benefits
Needed dr suraj Yengde on the stage!
Why the host unnecessary laugh, ridiculously. He seems satirical at Ambedkar. Instead he should be very serious when say about a great person. Pigmy behavioural.
What made BBC to bring Mr Ambadker interview of 1955 today please. Gandhi surely is looked by world leaders as mahatma, what proof does Mr Ambadker has to differ?
Though I kind of convinced by looking at Pakistani Pdm leaders those who when they talk in urdu they pretend to be leftist but when they talk in English they show they are rightist
Only sc and stb respect him, other hate him heart
I think The interview only know or can see those four flaws and not other many good things..
If Baba saheb were to be alive today he would have been elected as Priminister of Bharath by BJP after 2024 elections.
Now also we can see the Hindu's attitudes are seen everywhere discrimination due to caste system which still exists.
Babaasaheb 🎉
In saving Dalits he sacrificed Good old Buisness Peaple and treasures of Indus valley to Pakistan and about Adiwasi contempt he is being castist, I wish there was no partition, certain Muslim communities of Pakistan have been wiped off and no one knows about them
Ambedkar is. Sacrefaced. for onley sc and. st. People's not genral people and. Devid the society
We hindu are so bad human Being in this planet how we cab do this with others ..first of all he said that he was born at hindu but not died at hindu.....he given all person equal for all human beings ...he given a freedom ti hindu gilrs and to all woman's of I dua he is real God for them ....
Political conspiracy in which his own class was fully in league to “ Humiliate and eliminate “ him politically…🥲🥲🥲
Lost legacy ?? Really???
the whole interview is about the flaws of ambedkar ....from the point of view of congressmen...totaly biased one...
According to Mr Tharoor, its Gandhi jiiiiiii... Vs Ambedkar ( not Dr Ambedkar or Ambedkar ji)... Gandhi and congress , after looking at Dr. Ambedkar 's prolific knowledge and command in various fields, they never wanted Dr. Ambedkar ( a dalit)to come to power and charge... they always tried to sideline him... MAJORITARIAN HINDU'S
That is QUITE a BIG list and SERIOUS FLAWS in that man. Almost sounds sick the way he describes about the Schedule tribes and has hatred for everything Indian and hindu. No wonder, Dalits are still suffering because this guy was a FRAUD/SICK man.
It was not flow Dr Ambedkar was truer he see through in Gandhi
Upper caste conversion. Nothing productive in this video.
Paranhu paranhu legacy aakki !!!
No non support ed Adivasis like Ambedkar
Congress azadi se aaj tak baba sahab ka samvidhan desh me lagu nahi kar saka ?
Ambedkar is highly over rated.
Clever debate by clever people.
Both Raghav Bahl and Shashi Tharoor could not understand what Dr.Ambedkar said. Dr.Ambedkar himself is a testimony to his statements about double voting system for scheduled castes which was denied by Gandhi's fasting until death and the Poona Pact. The upper caste hindus only selected a slave representative as MP which is true even today. Look at the various MPs and Ministers from this section, do they really true representatives? What Dr.Ambedkar said about Gandhi in the BBC interview was correct and it was straight from his heart unlike Gandhi or Shashi or Bahl.
The terms 'Socialist', 'Secular', and 'Integrity', were not present in the Preamble when the Constitution was passed. Ambedkar did turn down proposals to include "socialist" and "secular" in the preamble. By the 42nd Amendment on December 18, 1976, the term "Secular" was also incorporated in the Preamble. during the Indira Gandhi administration.
Of course, he hated Hinduism but he also attacked Christianity and Islam. Ambedkar viewed Christianity to be incapable of fighting injustices. He wrote that "It is an incontrovertible fact that Christianity was not enough to end the slavery of the Negroes in the United States. A civil war was necessary to give the Negro the freedom which was denied to him by the Christians. He opposed conversions of depressed classes to convert to Islam or Christianity and added that if they converted to Islam then "the danger of Muslim domination also becomes real" and if they converted to Christianity then it "will help to strengthen the hold of Britain on the country
Nonsense and irrelevant exercise.
Ambedkar's bias towards S.C.s dominated his patriotism. He started political party "Scheduled Castes Federation of India" in 1952 and contested through out the country. Why STs and BCs would support such party. Even SCs did not vote him totally. His party got just 2.38% of votes. Would you consider him constitutionally knowledgeable, advocate of equality?
Ambedkar also pointed out Muslim brotherhood (Ummah) is not Universal Brotherhood
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Ambedkar was Hindu hating and said Adivasis as savages. I think he is false god.
Source : Trust me bro
According to me, Dr. Ambedkar thinks that if Scheduled Tribes want to develop then they have come into the mainstream
Ambedkar was a man of confusion with a lot of decision taken by him without even considering it even ones.
@@prathmeshm3215 ye log kuch na samajh k hi bol ne lagte hai 🤣
Did you said that to your ancestors?
@@rohit-ld6fc Fortunately my ancestors never done anything as disastrous as he did with our community
@@prathmeshm3215 Does age represent something? If yes then my age is good enough to comment on this 'mahanpurush'
Brother you have to learn a lot about caste and india to understand Ambedkar's work. Read manusmriti and you will know what bullshit indian society is following.
Why discussion is too much pressed on flaws?