History of South Africa - Episode I: The Beginning!
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- čas přidán 6. 01. 2019
- South Africa has been a place of great importance, great tragedy, and global consequence from the moment the outside world began to set itself upon it. Episode I tells us how Europe first came upon it, and how they just couldn't get themselves to leave it alone.
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😂😂😂😂😂 Mshini wam
"So South Africa really all begins with Portugal in 1415." I am out with that one!
Lol that's stupid
What happend before 1415. Dont be Koi with your answer.
Y didn't Portugal concur?
@@ralphjansen9205 the native africans
No !! I don’t understand why your spending so much time explaining Portugal part in this Video -- AS OTHER countries plays a much bigger part!
South Africa was made by the Dutch and the British! Get your facts right and spend more time planning your videos!
This man: "South Africa first started in Portugal"
Me: clicks off
yes that is europeans for you . so stupid
@GDemonatorWillpower
@@pvtcit9711 there are some facets of history that you just can't revise friend and that south africa first started in portugal is just that
Awaiting Episode 2. Well done!
*European's History of South Africa
How can you start with Portugal? 😂
@@nunyabeeswax554 Because he knows damn well whites are from Europe and not Africa.
@@nunyabeeswax554 because Vasco da Gama was the first European to "discover" the Cape, Not Jan van Riebeeck. And Google the real face of Jan van Riebeeck, he was blonde and chubby! Too much lies if yoy ask me.
The Boer will never admit that there were Black Africans in South Africa when they arrived.
@@SoniaJbrt It doesn't matter who discovered the Cape what matters is Africans were already there and their lans was taken away.
The Dubai video brought me here, I truly love this channel. I’m planning on visiting South Africa in August.
Lazer Person bringing my own portable desalination system lol. Living in Dubai taught me well.
I wouldnt go there ever. They are about to have a civil war where they slaughter every white person within the borders. From your profile picture i assume you are black, but the country is still extremely dangerous.
Sir Richter Dangerous and Cape Town don’t belong in the same sentence. Most of my friends here in Dubai are from Cape Town and seem to move in and out with ease and tend to their properties with no conflict. Maybe you need a break from CZcams 🤣.
@@ChefOrelleYoung I'm in Cape Town right now and it's as safe as can be 😊 I'm a 103lb white girl and have never felt threatened or unsafe, you'll be totally fine
sardonic I totally believe this.
Very well done! Thanks for posting
They dont even teach this part of history in the school of my country anymore. This is a great video. Much love, from South Africa!
Say your school's history programme was deficient, we learn it at school.
They can’t reach you lies at school, there was never a bantu migration. But it’s Your choice if you want to learn rubbish
@@Belugacrip oh okay 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@MalkaMoon 🤣😂🤣😂litter
As we would say in South Africa, what kak is this?!
And I thank you! My thoughts exactly. Like someone else mentioned: the history of South AFRICA - but without a single African being mentioned
@@rynominnie83 yeah like what the hell
The history of South Africa starts in Portugal 🤣
@IM HO there's a difference between opinion and fact though. And there's also something strangely self-serving in telling the history of a country without mentioning anyone FROM that country.
I don't need to start my own CZcams channel to realize any of the
Haha thats Afrikaans white word just like voetsek which means voort se Ek.
This is the most underrated channel on youtube. You deserve way more subscribers!
Agreed
And I thought my jokes were bad.
for saying south africa begins in portugal and spending the whole video not talking about what was actually happening in south africa and what it's people were doing?
@Michael Beach, Thanks for doing the work to put something together that aims to re-cap very broadly a review of SA history. I want to point out to visitors completely unfamiliar with the history, that several very key elements are missing though - Despite acknowledging that this is only a high-level summation. Missing elements speaks to motivations and driving powers and true nature of groups and characters in the full historical storyline. I don't believe it serves to capture the character of the SA people themselves, but the video does achieve enough context and overview to provide points of history to further build knowledge from. I regard this stil as an insightful singular view of an SA historical perspective. Well done for doing it.
Now we call each other “Poes”👍🏻👌🏻
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I thought this was a history about South Africa!
Emmanuel Sithagu it is. South Africa was sparsely populated by hunter gatherers groups (KhoiSan), the Bantu groups haven't moved into SA yet at the time of European arrival.
@@Phyto. the bantu actually moved in before the arrival of Europeans, however they were mostly on the East.
@@Phyto. you mad we ''bantu'' as you call us have been here for 1000s of years before europeans
@@cubancucumber lol we wouldnt tell you everything about ourselfs but we know our history
Lihle Sibiya bantu is a word used to describe the group of africans that spoke the bantu languages... its not meant to be racist or anything, its just a classification, it would be like calling someone english because they speak english (even if they are not necessarily from England, this is especially prominent when describing afrikaans and english people, we are both south africans but we are classified by our languages) ...
Great video! There is a brilliant Dutch book covering a Dutch 18th century explorer who lived in Capetown and made several expeditions into the heartland. He came across some wild stuff there, like a guy who inherited land on the border of company and local territory and simply proclaimed his own kingdom.
If there are any dutch here, the book is called "Een Nederlander in de Wildernis." A must read for anyone interested in this kinda stuff.
`Dutchie` (Afrikaner) here. Thanks for the book reference, JCB
I am not ashamed to say , I have been binging your channel.
Hey, that’s where I live!! Do the rest of it! History in South Africa is so darn gloomy. The cutesy animation takes the sting out of it.
Amazing. Waiting for part II
Still waiting...
episode 2 should focus on the bantu expansion, the establishment of Boer Republics and the Zulu empire and the wars that followed.
Bantu expansion? Go back home bruh.. we about to vote.
Well it's true, there is history in this entertaining video. It looks as though you two had fun making it.
Hi Michael, great video! Would it be possible for you to do Episode 2 or 3 even? Me being a South African found this extremely interesting, and I do believe South Africa is a very complex case study. Cheers!
What an excellent history teller...Good job Michael! 💯
hawu zungu musa ukusihlaza, lomuntu uyasibhedela ukhuluma ngomlando wase south africa koda uqala le phezulu emazweni abelungu wena uyancoma ??
@@njabulomaseko2590 washaya nkabi yami , asingancomi umuntu esilulaza sinomlamdo ovuthwe kangaka singamaNguni
U are a joke as African 😂😂😂
I don't think I've ever been put off by a documentary in the very first sentence before. "the history of South Africa actually begins in Portugal."
He doesn't know history of South Africa this one, this is exactly what Hunt Davis was talking about. These people think African history began from Europe!😒
@@nonickname8938Sadly the only people here when the Portuguese past here were the Koi and San. So this history sounds good to me as you can't create a history if there wasn't.
@@andrewdutoit9571 Are you still peddling the empty land theory in 2023? Are you serious
@@yangasidziya3245 Not at all. When South Africa's History was first written there wasn't any alterior motives included. Today, the narrative will be that Jan Van Riebeek landed at the Cape and booked into the Holiday Inns and Simon van der Stel won all the wine farms in a crooked poker game from a drunk Koi whose drink was spiked by some dishonest White trash hooker.
The history of south Africa starts with the! Khwe and Xham
Very good video man, keep it up
I love the "age of discovery" definition😄
The visuals on this is kinda misleading, by the end it makes it look like the Dutch & French had conquered the Xhosa and Sotho people and where on the doorstep of the Zulu people, while in reality they hadn't made contact yet. The upper right bit of the final visual(where the date displays 1814) of south Africa looks like the British Cape colony is on top of Lesotho which would be very inaccurate as they were neither conquered by the Dutch or the Zulu and thus is the reason it is still an independent country today.
And also the reason the Dutch's crops were failing because they were using crops that was incompatible to the climate and soil. 6:53
@Rocky Fletch Yes but the sotho people did and were in that geographical location. My point was that the map was a bid misleading in showing that the colonies had conquered more land than they actually did at that point in time.
@@goldust3212 Oh rubbish! Name a single indigenous crop grow in South Africa. Just one.
@@rochellesmal7770 More rubbish. The Sotho live in Lesotho because that is where the Zulu chased them to. They ran up into the mountains to escape the Zulu. And nobody wants to purposefully live up in those mountains. Especially as it's very cold and before the white man introduced blankets and clothing and shoes.
What did the Basotho wear before the European introduced woven cloth?
@@mazambane286 My complaint is that the visuals on the map do not correctly reflect the timeline portrayed. The Mfecane started before the Dutch left the cape, the fact that they where chased to the mountains does not matter as it is still where they ended up and remained since that point. The Dutch & Zulu did not care for the mountains, as you said, and mostly avoided them so they where never conquered by either of them and they only became a British protectorate much later. It seems incorrect to mark that section of the map in 1814 as under British rule when the Dutch did not move out of the cape until 1835, so in my view the map is still misleading as it does not correctly portray the movement of the people at the time. Also, while I don't know much about the history of woven cloth I would like to point out that our species survived an Ice age before it was invented and that the Inuit survived much colder climates without woven cloth. Even if they did not have woven cloth at that point they obviously still had the ability to make clothes and more importantly did have the ability to create fire, which seems much more essential in order to survive colder climates. Honestly nothing in your comment contradicts what I said so why call it Rubbish?
I'll patiently wait for episode 2. Thanks for the history lesson of my people (although I already know 90% of it, still worth watching)
King Gumede KaZulu of 1330 Zululand,
KhoiKhoi and khoisan hunters and farmers on the cape scrublands, their culture, food, political system, marriage rights are the earliest history of area known today as South Africa.
I am shocked that in 2019, people still have European propaganda about Africa as true representation of facts.
9minutes video on South Africa history, 1st 2.5minutes is about Portugal and Spain.
Otolo...
@goodafy tf does king Gumede KaZulu have to do with the history of south africa. The zulus first came to south africa in the late 1600 and early 1700 and then came through natal and setteld in present day kwazulu-Natal
@@itzmebuster5392 That's nonsense. Nguni people have been in South Africa as early as 300ad
Still falling for the propaganda I see
The Zulu didn't exist as a tribe in 1330 . The Bantu clans only crossed the Limpopo river about 600 years ago .
Cool video! I love the way you say "Graaf Reinet" = graph rye net. We say here in SA: "Graaaaaaaf re-net" but I enjoyed the video and its to the point and precise.
Great video, subscribed and looking forward to the next episode!
Great Video. I like it.
I liked this video. These historical facts place South Africa apart on the continent and are worth noting. It produced a rich and colorful history that is fascinating and exiting. Apart from the political powers of the time, many European’s fled persecution in Europe resorting to the Cape as “European slaves”, suffering under the powers of that time, as modern day emigrants meet foreign labor demands. Reference to the “Dutch” South Africans omit societies of French, German and Portuguese who emigrated to South Africa escaping persecution. Many did succumb to hunger and suffering under ‘Machiavellian Governance’ of the time. The European community in SA was liberating as it constituted a great portion of other European communities apart from only the Dutch, removing the ‘Racial Stereotyping’ in practice. Thus, historically the country was not ‘Colonized’ to the extend to which other countries were, rather it was pollinated with rich culture that played an important role in resisting English colonization centuries later. With no intent to cause resentment (sometimes a sensitive topics) or blame but purely constructive reference of history; European South African population declined at the hands of English concentration camps which declined the future European population in South Africa, consequently restricting the capacity for future ‘Democracy’ and meritocracy. Followed by the world depression and immense Anti-European agenda’s under Cecil John Rhodes laid foundations for the advocacy that followed. The countries history has been controversial ever since contributing to torn society of date. Western and Eastern powers played their part in the times to follow; the US in their fight against ‘Communism’ in the 1975’s, imposing the controversial arrests of political opponents and a war against Angola with detrimental long term consequences for SA and modern day history experience Chinese Neo-colonization and African nepotism. A stable country polarized by continuous political calamity which seem to make its round every 50 years or so.
Uyanya wena
@@lindokuhlemthembu3015 They like this ke mf2, they make up their own bullsh*t history
Not colonised...
Wow I can bet what your ancestors aren't African.
Need more research on how early Khoi And San relations were
Well they got driven off by the Bantu's and then you had 10000 people running around in an area the size of Texas.
very nice. thanks for making and posting. do ignore all the non-history PC victim people writing below, about their dogma instead of data). very accurate. so where is the rest of this series??
Hey hope your OK. Love this series. When are you gonna make a new video?
I love your vids!
But South Africa history doesn't start in Portugal! What non sense is that?
Tseliso Molukanele my question exactly😠😠😠
But how can you prove that it didn't start in Portugal??? Because I'm an African person too.
Dangel Doodled Because there was already people there - which he failed to mention - and the low population of the area meant that Portugal wasn’t really interested in it and they never really left any impact.If he made a video about Mauritius or Reunion he’d probably be right seeing as literally nobody lived there beforehand but if anything the real turning point would be when the dutch arrive in the mid 16th century and found Cape town.
@@hwitbooi4671 1. Just because people were there doesn't mean the history of a political entity exists by default, otherwise the history of England would start long before the romans, Germany before charlagmange ect. 2. The native history is not known anyway so either way it still flies
@@davidhobbs5679 All isn’t completely unknown - Although it is true that a lot isn’t known because the original peoples didn’t have any written history. I just thought it was something he should have mentioned
Can down town of Pretoria (the capital city) be urbanised?
killowatra ibikio I wish.
Downtown Pretoria looks like Lagos
@@clancenix Would love to see it Urbanised.
It is urbanised?
Next time you'll need to do a lot of good research about our genuine history Africans of Sourh Africa and besides that what you need to know is the fact that Africa and South Africa in particular is nothing without its ethnic indigenious people and I am talking about the likes of the great AmaZulu, AmaXhosa, Amandebele, AmaSwati, AbeSotho,AmaKhoisan, to name the few including their Kingdom's . We know our history very well .thanks
South Africa like Australia and Papua do not have civilization, no writing script, no university no mathematic no city, no medieval city with grand sophisticated architecture like Morocco, Spain, Arabia, Europe and India. no money, no palaces, castle, monument no Angkor Wat, Prambanan or Taj Mahal. Swahili coast rule by Omani Arab that why they used Arabic script. Mali copy Arab culture. and European bring civilization to Sub-sahara black, that why black easy to enslaved because of lack of civilization no Chinese, Arab, Indian, Malay, Thai, Korean, Persian be capture easily in larges number and ship to America, they easy to obey
As far as this video goes you people weren't in the picture yet.
My ancestors would be proud . Great presentation Michael, looking forward to episode 2 .
and u should be ashamed
your ancestors in portugal?
Episode 2 please!
just found out this channel, great stuff man, keep it up!
Wish there was a part 2
I like this
Part 2 coming anytime? Been over a year
This is very inaccurate
KLM
From the first lying words out of his mouth.
This is a stupid and pointless comment if you're not going to be more specific.
It is accurate though
Part 2 please!
If you're really looking for a historical narrative on South Africa, do NOT watch this!
No offense, but this video is the very definition of Eurocentrism. Apart from terrible overgeneralizations and misconceptions (what has started in the 15th century can hardly be called what you and many of our history teachers in school labelled »Age of Discovery« - South Africa was already there, the Europeans didn't "discover" it; the word "discover" itself implies your Eurocentric perspective). In fact, the history of the Southern part of the African continent (the current South African borders haven't been there when Bartolomeo Diaz or Jan van Riebeeck arrived!) is probably far older than the European one. Plenty of archeological research has been done proving that traces of humankind can be dated back to the very time of hominisation. Saying that "it all began in Portugal" implies that the peoples of South Africa didn't have any kind of culture worth mentioning and what is probably worse, it implies that it took European colonists to get one.
He already starts with inaccuracies about Portugal . Firstly, there were no people on Madeira so it was not colonised. Islam had conquered Iberia so Reconquisita was justfied.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾Thank you!!!
Your comment is the best and way so underrated 🎖
@Rocky Fletch Well, this is not about generalizations but rather about vast Eurocentric misrepresentations
@@transcribemusic trust me in this - don't even try to reason with that troll. Next up he's gonna tell you that you're lazy for not making your own video on the subject instead of voicing your opinion on this misleading video
I myself am a white South African and am proud of my (mostly) Dutch heritage, but I'm not naive enough to believe that there was nothing here before "my people" got here. Nor am I stupid enough to think that the history of my country started in Portugal in the 1400s (hence "The Beginning" in the title)
I need episode two
South African here. Great video, looking forward to the next one! I think the map showing Dutch/British territory around Cape Town could use some work, but still awesome video all round.
how is it awesome when the people of the land are not even mentioned, is South Africa in Europe or what, all this says is europeans got to South Africa
You have a great voice with great style matched to fantastic scripts !!!!
South African here, it's interesting to see the countries history from another perspective
we want episode 2!
Where is part II?
Ok You guys I am not defending this I agree his video is very inaccurate but keep in mind two things.
Most of south africa, and even africa's history was taught via Oral Tradition which means there are very few concrete facts about places before europeans came there. The second thing you need to keep in mind is that the only significant event that particularly effects South Africa before colonization is the Great Bantu Migration which I believe he should have mentioned as a starting point instead.
Where's episode 2 already it's been 2 years
...starts in Portugal?
Lol
Please make more videos I miss them
Huh, my ancester is Jan Van Riebeeck... One of his children down the line married a Jones and here I am now
More should be documented with how the Sans mostly worked before arrivals of Khois, Bantus, Xhosas, Europeans, And Coloureds
Thank you! I've learned more about my country from this video than any school book... when will episode 2 be available?
I love the way he has drama when he explains this story
that is because the video is missing some important facts
And naturally you care nothing about the other 92% of citizens who's history was completely glassed over in this... You really are not different to your ancestors.
Incredible videos bro! this one has lame music tho
So no episode 2?
So how does South Africa start in Portugal
Great video! 🎥subbed
Hey dude, you do excellent work and I’ve greatly enjoyed your other videos, but consider changing the title to “A Colonial History of South Africa” or similar to accurately represent a video that leaves out non-colonial history.
A risk money was took from a friend who invented in AUTOMATE Company. In 1 hour ago.
"non-colonial history."
That makes no sense. There is no history of South Africa before it became South Africa. SA's history starts at 1653. The video is about the country, not the region.
South Africa didn't exist before then.
@@c.b.s.3495 The landmass did, of course but the political entity indeed did not exist.
@@orcaflotta7867 Of course. Did you know that the people referred to as Black South Africans are not Native to South Africa? They actually arrived AFTER the Boers. Isn't that interesting?
so just skip over all of the african history in that region and go straight into european history :l
We Are Watching You Humans what Africa history? The only people that populated SA were the KhoiSan hunter gatherers.
Yep Fuck this guy. So eurocentric and biased
@@Phyto. you do know that koisans are still African right?
@@Phyto. I am so welcoming the expropriation of land. Its gonna be beautiful to finally see you people kicked out of the land.
You talk so much crap, and then you victimize yourself when the native blacks get sick of your antics. Everyone with any common sense knows the whites in SA are finished. But sure keep on with those lies. There where Xhosa, Zulu not to mention the KhoiSan still exist and live and have gone nowhere. I also dont see whties caring about Khoisan in any other way except to use them to further your filthy lies. Dont worry there are many ways to get you people to leave South Africa, and soon it will be more intense.
@Adrian Bradey Its all vauge as its taught by Oral Tradition which is unreliable at best. Since nobody bothered writing anything down or building anything lasting the biggest things that happened close to South Africa were Kilwa and the Kingdom of Zimbabwe.
South Africa started in South Africa
The full impact of bantu migrations from central Africa into SA is inadequately addressed. They permanently changed the south African landscape , beginning with their genocidal wars against the original inhabitants , the Khoi and San .
Whole clans were wiped out . The men killed , the women raped and both women and children forcefully adopted into their tribes .
Forcing the Khoi to trek southwesterly away of expanding presence of the new comers. The SAN/Bushmen took refuge in caves and opted to rather live in barren, arid undesirable regions of the country . This was the setting into which the Dutch arrived .
This needs a part 2 👏
Episode 2?
Now hear me out, I think this is great research and storytelling. The colonization of Mzansi started way before Jan v Riebeeck & Co. arrived in the Cape in 1652.
If you look at this more objectively. I think Mr Booths’ angle is the introduction of immigration to, and eventual colonization of SA. the organization of South Africa as we know it today started at the point of contact with our dishonorable ancestral brothers & sisters. I think this is the exact place to start, exactly where the true story of “South Africa’s” map begins.
How do you end up in 1814 and skipping the continuous wars in the 1700s that lasted for a century between Europeans and the Xhosas. There was a large Xhosa population in the Western Cape that fought against the Europeans and were successful in many occasions. But as the Europeans recruited more and more soldiers they were able to push the Xhosas out of the Western Cape and further East into the Eastern Cape. Don’t forget that there were natives found there and it wasn’t as peaceful as you think it was.
The amaXhosa never reached south of the Great Fish River. No Xhosa or any Bantu can claim any land in the Cape outside of the Transkei. Hamba msunu
and the 1660 war with Khoikhoi
@@nonickname8938 The Khoi are not Bantu though. The Khoi are indigenous to Southern Africa. The Bantu are not! As they hail from West Africa. And are recent arrivals in Southern Africa. In fact the Bantu arrived in South Africa after the Boers. There is no evidence to suggest otherwise.
@@mazambane286 what did I say about Bantu?
@@nonickname8938 Why mention the 1660 war with the Khoi?
Where's part two though?
Uk started it, blew up exports.
Frank was from the states. etc.. Born in Michigan. 79 ish if still kicking.
He said he knew an uncle her, who had moved here first because he knew a friend. They were market there so were familar with their side of the system.
Son was born in Swaziland hospital though. Thomas. 41
He moved up there because he was 'rutherless' with his orders. He is damaging and sadistic. He does get off on it.
They had handlers in place that are elevated slaves that will have weapons.
Or they just have elevated weapon slaves that are controlled and will listen to direction. They follow it out of fear of others and often because sadists themselves.
They are promised things but are ultimately killed by another elevated with a directive.
Frank will have a weapon himself to maim and torture others directly. They put on shows for slaves so they follow direction.
That is how they become feared.
And the history of South Africa does not start in Portugal...they are just the first Europeans to land here
episode 2?
4:01 try telling that to South Africans today, have you heard of the expropriation of land with out compensation, basically a certain group of individuals want "their land" back and take it from another certain group of individuals with no compensation.
Who invented compensation and reparations? Hm? Hahaha
6:30 no gold, no diamonds, no platinum just veggies and cows 😉
South Africa doesn't begin then. This is just the European discovery of South Africa.
Episode 2 please!!!
it's been 4 years where's part 2
1075 dude... Mapungubwe kingdom was found. Way before any colonisers came to SA.
What happened after Mapungubwe was built, did the people forget how to put one stone upon another or did the ones who built it pass away and he wasn't a nGuni as why did the building style not continue?
episode 2?????
You'd be surprised to know how many people don't know where South Africa is.
I'm from Spain and I just took a DNA test and I have 0,50% South African ancestry. That's why I am here.
Mono Motapa kingdom....more info on that im sure...
People need to learn about that.
Psrt 2 please
South Africa old medieval city, old castle, old university before European
Haha. The truth hurts... Shame i know of some "black" africans thats gona be real pissed... But you know, you cant argue with a brick wall...
Nice video. Looking foward to the next chapter.
“Graff Reinet” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Where is the rest I have an exam in 5 hours about SA
The country at the Southside is really called South Africa? I strongly believed it would be North- western Africa!
When watching this, PLEASE NOTE...
This is an Episode that tells us "how Europe first came upon SOUTH AFRICA, and how they just couldn't get themselves to leave it alone."
"The name "South Africa" is derived from the country's geographic location at the southern tip of Africa. Upon formation, the country was named the Union of South Africa in English and Unie van Zuid-Afrika in Dutch, reflecting its origin from the unification of four formerly separate British colonies." - www.google.co.za/search?client=opera&q=who+named+south+africa&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
BEFORE Y"LL START CATCHING FEELINGS!! MY GAAAD!! 😫
Edit: #ThisCommentNeedsToBePinnedOnTop You're welcome.✌ i hope you're making Ep 2.
You are talking about the history of South Africa from the "beginning" and you started from Portugal?
Never felt more disrespected
It’s of course looking at it with a European perspective, as well as looking at what will be context for all the things that go down later on. He could talk about Khoi people’s living there for thousands of years but but it doesn’t matter a huge amount I what he will be trying to get at
@@gabrielseaborn257 the audacity ☹
Kamogelo Moloto What? The Europeans and Bantus brought conflict, and therefore they will be talked about. I think he could have acknowledged the native people of South Africa at first, but he didn’t. So we can’t really change that.
Sunny A
And he lies a lot too.
This sounds 100% right.
The truth will set you apart!
I find it offensive that you did not include the fact that South Africa was the land of Khoi-khoi and khosan people. You didn't even say anything about the Xhosa people
The Khoi-khoi and Khoisans were a - now extinct - nomadic people who never ever got any culture going. We know them as strandlopers and bushmen. They didn't even make good slaves since they were too weak for hard work and fell sick easily. That's why the VOC imported slaves from Malaysia and Java. Now the Xhosa arrived in SA much later, a Bantu splinter group on the run from the mighty Zulu nation during a migration period. Guess that was only in the early 1800s. And in so far the historians are right when they claim that SA wasn't a black country, when the Portuguese, Dutch, French and English arrived.
@@orcaflotta7867 you're very toxic
@@vuyonjoli2549 Ya. So? I'm not here to soothe your nerves and make friends and similar BS, I'm only here to tell you what I know. The facts may be toxic. Too bad.
@@orcaflotta7867 You mean the same ones who were hiding artifacts when they debunked the empty land myth? Or the same ones who were claiming every African civilization was made by some lost tribe of Europeans? Funny how archeological says different to your revisionist history.
@@WilliamGarrow "You mean the same ones who were hiding artifacts when they debunked the empty land myth?"
Sorry, English isn't one of my favourite languages but as I understood your sentence the ones who debunked the empty land myth also hid artifacts? That makes no sense and would totally debunk their debunking. Also what artifacts exactly?
"Or the same ones who were claiming every African civilization was made by some lost tribe of Europeans?"
Never heard of bullshit like that.I wouldn't believe it anyway. Europeans would first had had to get darker skin to do so. And why the fuk should they do that anyway.
"Funny how archeological says different to your revisionist history."
I never heard an archeologue say anything about it. I only read books and what contemporaries said about the cape area when they landed here. It's not my fault that all indigenous ppl they met were tiny, semi-starved and had not even tools advanced more than some flintstones. They were by all evidence a splinter group of the khoisans or khoikhois or whatever their name was. They called those little guys "strandlopers"(beachcombers), like they called their brethren up north in nowadays Namibia "bosmen" (bushmen). And when you have a look at the few survivors you'll see they don't have much in common with the proud Bantu warriors, which appeared on the scene around 200 years later.
And now I'm getting angry with you. For realsies! How dare you calling it my "revisionist history"? You unspeakably evil meaniepooface moron! How dare you???
I said from the beginning that is what I know to be true. I have no political agenda and no interest in the whole thing. But try to think for a moment with your brain, not with whatever political agenda you must follow: If the Dutch merchants and first settlers had found any evidence of a functioning culture at the cape, they wouldn't have built a veggie garden and a village around it but just bought the veggies from the pre-existing culture. Or stolen. Or started a war. But obviously here was nothing worth to be stolen or waste bullets on. Not even a kraal or anything like that in the vicinity.
The bottom line is that these groups fought over land that belonged to the Khoisan people and have no claim to it.
My mother land mama africa
Would love hear South African History told by Africans at some point. Things that happened before other people discovered South Africa. History passed on from generation to generation.
It has already been told i.e. Mapungubwe and Great Zimbabwe
It's told in izithakazelo it doesn't go into detail but at least you get the gist of what was happening and who is who. Or am I wrong?
@@Paballo_KgotleI really dispute that Mapungubwe and the Great Zimbabwe were built by Africans as what happened afterwards? Why isn't there any other like ruins been found anywhere else in Southern Africa built on the same style, did the Architects who built them die and the Africans just could do the stone work because those rwo ruins aren't just from a few centuries ago.
@@andrewdutoit9571 ok, aliens built them 👍
@@Paballo_Kgotle I fear you may be right, they called arabs.
1 minute in and I already know that you need to edit the title of this video