1960s South Africa | Apartheid | Nadine Gordimer | Industry | This Week | 1968
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- South Africa is well on the way to becoming one of the richest countries in the world. Industry, mines and financial skills have transformed the Rand. In this report Reporter John Morgan looks at the activities of the wives of wealthy industrialists, of whom have become, in the large part the conscience of White South Africa.
First shown: 19/09/1968
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Is it not strange that in that documentary no African was interviewed to state how they felt
is it not strange that everything since 94 has led to what RSA is now? A shit hole.
our black leaders dont care what blacks feel
@@mavisser3211 yes with Rupert & co smugly at the top.
Got to admit that this was selected from dissatisfied upper-class housewives lamenting about stuff they don't understand. No factual analysis to be expected there.
Many of them had it better than today. It was much safer for everyone, less drugs, etc.
Thanks for posting this. It is sooo eye opening
Thank you for posting this video. It would have been fascinating to interview these women today. Especially those who complained about "training".
They would tell you that apartheid was tough but today SA is collapsing under the ANC. Our country is frought with corruption, violent crime, extreme unemployment, no electricity, education and health is collapsing.....
Apartheid was wrong but today life in SA is worse for all. While the fat cats in ANC live it up.
training is work
I can relate. Training my gardener is no joke. He's goofed the whole time and forgets everything I ask of him.
The reality is that, there are many people alive today who experienced this…
South Africa was hardly populated at all before white men arrived there . Nobody invited hoards of blacks to come into South Africa , blacks came for a better life , more money and lift from primitive life which they suffered in surrounding countries , of course you can blame whites in SA for not giving blacks immediately villa and brand new mercedes . Ignoramuses reinventing history to suit their political goals -now go back into money extortion scheme which is your ultimate goal as well as a desire to rule over whites .NOW DOES IT EXPLAIN IT ALL WELL ? Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a normalcy . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .You blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men you would still live in straw huts and run naked around
kodwa they tell us to get over apartheid we were not there....
My friends dad was telling me about how he was treated. It’s so sad how cruel humans can be to others.
Yes, so what?
Yes in occupied territories in Palestine and Gaza
"People who do nothing are responsible by their inaction of doing nothing"-Suzman (12:38) such a profound statement even in today's world
So what are you doing about the never ending corruption in the ANC government, Zuma and the Guptas?
Helen Suzman was protecting the true billionaires Oppenheimer Anglo American
De Beers etc
The jewish billionaires who live abroad have the wealth not the" whites"
Affirmative action laws had zero effect on the Billionaires because they are jewish business what do they care if the new employees are white or black.
@@janrabie1890 I'm doing nothing it's not like they have a better alternative party to vote for.
@@unathipeter8152 Not voting at all is a good start.
@@janrabie1890 By you not voting your vote goes to the winning party. It's best to increase competitor votes than not voting at all.
Makes me wonder how an interview I have today will be perceived in the next 50 years.
What am I totally tone deaf about? I really do wanna know the harmful systems I continue to participate in.
Even if I don't take action, for whatever reason, I think it's good to be aware of them.
A very insightful perspective.
Don't worry about the next 50 years. If you are an ANC or EFF voter today, people already know you're an idiot.
We'll be watching documentaries about Israel and its apartheid state hopefully sooner than 50 years. We are blinded to it now, as we were about South Africa.
@@wcg66 Keep dreaming. Israel is majority Jew. White South Africans were outnumbered 6 to 1 one. It doesn't matter how superior your culture is. You can't keep it up with those kinds of numbers.
@@dannyarcher6370 I guess brutalising a whole race is an aspect of a 'superior' culture. How sophisticated to plunder and oppress!
Thank you for blessing us with this piece of history. 🙌🏾 📽
I am blown away, how candidly they spoke about this, massive eye opener... Makes me think how many people could have made a difference sooner? I get now why so many people have so much respect for Suzman.
You still can in 2024. It’s called Gaza
@@suchbolo5742 dang bruh... you just changed the world. Solved the problem! You're so enlightened and morally better than the average human being. Wow, incredible! You should feel superior
@@suchbolo5742 not the same Islam thinks they are superior
reverse reasoning. Their postulates are how it was portrayed afterwards, doesn't mean it was like that. In fact lots of what those 'ladies' postulate was rather a distortion.
My parents lived during these hard times.. it breaks my heart
Oh yeah, all my family went through this
we are still living in these hard times. I was "born free" but there is no difference between my poverty growing up and my parents poverty. The only difference is that I have good English and a better education. As far as township struggle and poverty, it was as bad as Apartheid
Little has changed
lol
@@KingOfAfrica90 Have you been to Joburg?
Some Afrikaners were liberals and some English-speaking South Africans were proud of South Africa and staunch supporters of apartheid. The situation was more complex than is sometimes portrayed.
No more complicated than the US Apartheid it sought to build upon.
100% Glen. What I also see is that the Apartheid government was dictatorial and authoritarian. This made it not only easy but necessary for the beneficiaries of Apartheid, particularly the rich, to defend it. The regime was powerful and efficient which answers the question as to why the black majority had to roll over to the regime for such a long time. This is the part that makes me sick in the stomach, so many black generations failing to organize themselves an overthrow an oppressive minority government
@PrestonSartorius you talk krap. Nonsence. The votes were never devided into ethnic groups and the population was never told . It was simply yes or know. Fool.
Dark days but it's part of South African history
What do you mean by English speaking? if they're English then they're English
the idea that people indigenous to the land, have to have a permit to even step foot into it is insane to me....
You are right about the permit nonsense, but one interesting thing that I learned when I moved to Joburg is that many of the African groups migrated from central Africa in the last 2000 years. So indigenous is a complex term.
@@hypergraphic they still had been there for a few thousand years...
@@hypergraphic Yes, I heard that present day south Africa was sparsely populated years ago and that after the Afrikaans built up the economy only then did many people came from other parts of sub-sahara to take part in the opportunity of the economy.
@@trollotomasi5111 that’s not true the Africans were there before the Whites. The b.s story that the blacks came after the whites was made up to justify calling it a western country and giving legitimacy to the racism and white superiority.
The San bush men for example where there for sure with too many evidence to prove it also remember the san bush men were a kind of community that believed in owing nothing and owning everything so they never exerted ownership the way the whites do but they believed everything was to be used by all unlike the whites as such they never fenced off the area or made bill boards or recorded their possession of the land or the area and to make matters worse they were migratory.
Another question is like to ask you is this; if I go to USA Today and settle in an empty lot in Texas will it mean that lot will belong to me automatically?
WHITE People are now Forbidden to walk freely in parts of London town , if Female and wearing a Short-skirt,
if Male and holding one can of beer ( even , unopened .. )
Such an eye opening short documentary, amazing how every single person who was interviewed spoke so candidly about the reality they were living in, as if those circumstances were normal… it’s quite interesting but also quite scary as well.
Think how many are still alive today, same as with Apartheid in the US. Why teaching actual history in the US is so dangerous & must be kept (briefly) to enslavement (a "necessary evil").
But it was normal for them
@@humanchannel7825 that’s the point I’m trying to make: that those circumstances seemed normal for some people really is quite … scary.
@@Nunov103 why is it scary. When you live in that environment you don’t think about it because there are basic things in life which need to continue.
@@humanchannel7825 to you, to me it’s scary so let’s just both go on with our lives, goodbye 🙌
The women in the last clip deserves flowers.
Thank you for your help to my people.
I am white, I am so ashamed!
@@davegadge1 why, what did you do?
🙆🏽♀️🙆🏽♀️🙆🏽♀️
Her name is Nadine Gordimer. Here's an interview of her in 2012 almost 2 years before she died: czcams.com/video/1MSWhXpMzek/video.html
Nc nc
It makes me sad to see that this was normalized but a little hopeful that there were at least a portion of the white population that were very much against the nationalist government. Just a shame the black community and the white community that were opposed to this government couldn't make something happen sooner and instead had to suffer until the 90's.
What makes it even worse is that the black community were screwed over by the white government for so long, and just when they think they're going to catch a break when the ANC took over, just screwed further. Just this time by their own.
That has been the lot of almost, if not all African nations. For those colonized, upon independence, the new set of politicians have led the people with absolute rigour...they have been worse than the colonialists...
These ladies were mostly from the Jewish community in SA. Socialism for Whites was working too well for everyone else.
Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a normalcy . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around
@@chriskewe4238 no African nation has ever achieved true independence, that’s just talking about colonial debt not to mention Neo colonialism
Just by the by, Jan Smuts had intended on introducing representatives of other races into Parliament, that was in the 50s. The national party came along and stuffed it all up. Now we have the shite ANC resting on their laurels and Mandela's legacy destroying this once proud nation.
Nadine Gordimer was always sympathetic towards the non-white community and Nelson Mandela never forgot that.
You are right !!
Madiba never forgot … but the ANC did forget.
Madiba was very protective of the South African Jewish community… and he had a warm place for Israel. but today’s ANC blind hatred to israel is manufactured on lies. Lies Madiba would have fought against …
Madiba visited Israel in 1999 and tried to bring peace to both Palestinians and Israelis. He wanted to see the Palestinians free - sadly the Palestinian leadership chose hatred and violence. Madiba was unsuccessfully on this - but history has been rewritten.
Alas, for Madiba, Nadine was not alone in his heart from the South African Jewish community to fight against apartheid. There was good reason why the Jewish schools like King David in Linksfield were always under scrutiny of the apartheid regime.
Madiba did not forget these Jews,
The ANC did forget. So let me list them / for history’s sake. Good people - with big hearts.
Eric Abraham
Phyllis Altman
Jacqueline Arenstein
Louis Babrow
Esther Barsel
Hilda Bernstein
Lionel Bernstein
Sonia Bunting
Sarah Carneson
Arthur Chaskalson
Hilary Claire
Johnny Clegg
Neville Colman
Robi Damelin
David Rabkin
Bettie du Toit
Andrew Feinstein
Ruth First
Sadie Forman
Arthur Gavshon
Denis Goldberg
Arthur Goldreich
Sally Gross
Eve Hall
Baruch Hirson
Joel Joffe, Baron Joffe
Helen Joseph
Ronnie Kasrils
Olga Kirsch
Norma Kitson
Leo Kuper
Hugh Lewin
Janet Love
Gill Marcus
Shulamith Muller
Seymour Papert
Benjamin Pogrund
Louis Isaac Rabinowitz
Harold Rubin
Albie Sachs
Solly Sachs
Harry Schwarz
Ronald Segal
Joe Slovo
Helen Suzman
Ben Turok
Harold Wolpe
@@booz394 hilarious comment.making the jews look good when we know really how it is
Seeing those Black Sash women was the clearest description of the actual situation on the ground, we always managed to get passbooks for the Africans we wanted to employ.
Haha😄
@@lu881 wtf you mean ??
@@lu881 None of your indigenous black people have ancestral roots in South Africa . Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a norm . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around . if africa belongs to blacks only , then get the fu... out of Europe ,South America Asia and USA right now DIVERSITY WHAT A HOGWASH T IS , AN UTOPIAN IDIOCRACY
The banality of evil. How people simply accepted evil is astonishing!
ALWAYS IS QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH THESE WHITE SUPREMACIST PEOPLE-!!!
Hannah Arendt explains well!
@@ed_leonardi
Ed, please expound on the statement.
The banality of evil argument developed by Hannah Arendt basically says that evil is not done by monsters but ordinary people, that is why its so insidious.
@Timmy Tran No, not like that at all. They're talking about something far more serious than your hobby horse.
Helen Suzman at 10:40 was the lone liberal and anti-apartheid voice in the South African Parliament for 13 years where she was a one woman opposition. She had to endure sexist and Antisemitic comments, but never stopped fighting for the rights of native Africans until the end of Apartheid. She was truly a righteous woman.
You're from SA? I wonder why has the Jewish population reduced by more than half there? Have the antisemites doubled down on them after loosing the Apartheid privileges?
@@weed...5692 I’m not from South Africa. I just like Helen Suzman.
Ok, "a righteous woman". That is what you think of yourselves. Then we can look at your hypocracy and we can have a closer look on these modern societies of ours. And they SUCK.
@@weed...5692I would say 75% left since Mandela release in 1990
What were the actual consequences of her advocacy and actions? Ruin and misery? "Righteous" indeed!
Amazing journalism!
im Brazilian and i love South Africa
We also love Brazil
Very informative video, very interesting to know the view of the people at that time .
Fascinating footage. The regime back then was brutally fascist for black people. Another tragedy though is that the the one that replaced it has been horribly corrupt and failed to properly address the economic legacy of those days. Many people are still horribly poor and have little opportunity. Successive governments from the post apartheid era have also failed their people badly
Why should the financial black elite even bother to create economical equality since they are geting rich by this system?
They weren't really fascist in the traditional sense. Yes they sucked, but authoritarian nationalism is not equal to fascism.
The billinaires who really havr the wealth are jewish..
Oppenheimer took our gold
Anglo American is neither Anglo or American
De Beers is not BOer it is jewish billiinaire capital.
Stop blaming all whites please.
@@tylerbozinovski427
They were very much fascist in their treatment of African people and other non Europeans.
@@maureenjackson2041 That isn't what defines fascism. A common feature of fascism is that it DOES look down upon certain nationalities and ethnic minorities, but the ideology is a lot more than that. It is also an ideology rooted in socialism that unifies corporations (trade unions) and the state, and believes in the unity of the nation (which apartheid kind of goes against).
I agree however that apartheid-era South Africa had some fascistic tendencies, and was in some ways influenced by fascism and Nazism. But it at the same time did not have the kinds of regimes that Italy and Germany did.
So fascinating. As a black American living in Joburg it’s so interesting to see the similarities and differences between Jim Crow and apartheid. I’m just glad it’s over, but there is still a lot of work to do in growing the country for all.
It's never going to happen, S.A. will never reach the heights of the pre 1990s.
The irony is that the government does not care about their own people! Everything they supposedly fought for is just a mockery! The only ones who have benefitted, are the government and the elite! I'm South African and paying the price for being white!
@@hendo337 that's a good thing to not reach those hights.
@@hendo337 How were those heights achieved?
@@unathipeter8152 so its better now?
Interesting… thank you
Very interesting. I remember receiving a letter some 35 years ago from a potential customer in Johannesburg who described herself as a 'non-white' - then, apparently quite a normal way of categorising oneself in South Africa, And, on visiting relatives there, hearing one say that 'so and so, is almost white' referring not to the skin colour, but to so-and so's way of life, manners and attitude! Thank goodness we do make progress with time.
You are stupid , you shouldn't even be speaking here
I'm sure it was meant as a compliment. If more indigenous people achieved that status, it would improve Africa's development.
The nerve to tell an African that he or she has no rights to move about in their own country!
Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a normalcy . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around . if africa belongs to blacks only then get the fu... out of Europe ,South America Asia and USA right now DIVERSITY WHAT A HOGWASH T IS , AN UTOPIAN IDIOCRACY
Lots of them were migrants from other African nations
😂😂 why do the black people believe evrything in south africa belong to them , nobody gave or sell it to them , the just asume its theirs , bunch of jokers
Also this is vile at times. You can see everyone knew how wrong it was, but they're so nonchalant about it
And South Africa is so much better today? Mandela and his imbecile friends,many who couldn't read or write, drove that country into the ground.
And now we have the highest rate of murder in the world , 51% unemployment, a welfare state , infrastructure ruined , power outages on a daily basis , all state enterprises bankrupt , massive corruption, reverse racism on whites , mass murders of farmers .. another failed African state .. and you are happy with this.. you think it’s better 😂😂😂
... Especially the white English speaking south Africans... It was so easy for them to place the horrors of Apartheid in front of the white Afrikaner only...
@@mariananel3102 explain
@@mariananel3102Afrikaners were the ones enforcing apartheid soooo…
08:36 "Gold, (African gold) being precious, is a white man's metal.." - Incredible. Pure evil.
Obviously they never heard of Mansa Musa 💸
Oppenheimer and Rothschild Ruperts are not really whites as in Boer or British.Jo Slovo Helen Suzman made sure black vs white was the main argument.
@@hypergraphic What about Mansa Musa? Just because the Arab had gold, what does it mean to White people in SA?
Because they feared that the Africans would steal it.
I live in south Africa and its so weird to see the way south africa was
You mean a prospering nation free of crime, poverty and lawlessness, where streets were clean and safe and people were in no danger of being robbed, raped and murdered?
Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a normalcy . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around
Ja and it’s a complete shithole now…
Yes, safe
@@rickybobby5621 and incredibly racist. It was safe for whites but not got blacks.
South Africa has made such great progress since the terrible days of the 1960's.
Since 1994 it has transformed itself, for *all* of its citizens, into the rape & murder capital of the world.
And that is a rare achievement for any nation.
Marxism and degeneracy usually walk hand in hand
Always ready to justify evil. Stop trying to be perfect when you are not
only pinks can write such a stupid comment
Your quip is so naive. Imagine being black and living under apartheid and advocating for a return for the “good old days”
This place was nice when the blacks run it (( SAID NOBODY EVER ))
"...trains we were not permitted to film." What on earth?
@ Jethro, thank you for telling us about you and your family lives in the new South Africa. It is great to know there are Black South African families succeeding in the new South Africa. Seems like the new South Africa has to learn how to walk, before it learns how to run.
It just needs a system were more than one party has control
If only his comments were true though.
In fact - here is something from News24 today: Grade 6 pupils who cannot spell their own names, Grade 9 core math and math literacy students who write numbers backwards and Grade 11's who can't write essays in their native languages.
SA is doing really well hey?
Which Blacks are succeeding?
@@devinfraserashpole4753 Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a normalcy . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around
Helen suzman and nadine gordimer had hearts of gold❤❤❤
Interesting documentary
Just eight years after this was the Soweto Uprising, June 1976. Many of those small children in this documentary would be teenagers and would rise up against their inferior education and situation.
And what quality of education do they receive today under the ANC with a 30% pass rate required for matriculation?
@@janrabie1890 Yes it is terrible. But then so was the Nats' Bantu Education. Remember that Verwoerd didn't want black people to learn maths? It was unnecessary he said: hewers of wood and drawers of water and all that. Blacks did not get free school materials while whites did. They were forced to learn a number of subjects in Afrikaans.
I have always thought that old Verwoerd must be very amused in his corner of hell at how his policies of denying black people an education are now being perpetuated by those corrupt bastards in SADTU.
@@edwinblake Yes that is the popular narrative about Verwoerd but is it true? The University of Fort Hare taught black students from 1916 onwards and Mandela enrolled there in 1939. The university of Zululand opened in 1960 . Then there were other historical "black universities", as well like the University of the Western Cape, University of the North, University of Durban-Westville and the University of Cape Town already accepted their first black students in the 1920s. So it seems to me that there were good opportunities available but arguably not enough. Then for a balanced picture never forget the thousands who shouted "liberation before education " as they burned down schools and other infrastructure. By the way the burning down continues today e.g. in Vuwani Limpopo where 27 schools were burned down over a border dispute with tribalism at the root.
And be mown down 😭
And today everthing is either burned down or stolen.. even the train tracks.. yes.. even that.. where roads use to be we have potholes.. we dont know what it is anymore to have constant electricity.. loadshedding now the norm of the day. Every state owned company bankrupt.. everything was stolen or mismanagement.. more murders now than in a full.out war...
Quite enlightening
None of your indigenous black people have ancestral roots in South Africa Because it was mostly uninhabitable dry land . Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a norm . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around . if africa belongs to blacks only , then get the fu... out of Europe ,South America Asia and USA right now . DIVERSITY WHAT A HOGWASH IT IS - AN UTOPIAN IDIOCRACY .ONE HAS TO ONLY LOOK AT DETROIT CHICAGO BALTIMORE NEW YORK CITY
"Johannesburg is booming. It is one of the richest cities in the Western world." When did Johannesburg relocated in the '"Western World' in Europe?
All blacks want is to dominate , to get free money ,someone else's property and rule over everyone else , just like under shaka zulu . All that talk about equal rights , diversity and democracy is just a giant bs and a smoke screen to fool gullible white useful idiots .Moochers will be moochers .
Exactly.. when did it become part of western world?? It always was and is an African city.
Australia is also Western World, so let it go.
@weed...5692 so called western world belongs to white western European colonialists ....
So yes you are right Australia is so called western world 2 and new Zealand....
Basically western world is where white people of western Europe live aka colonialists....
There is 2 types of white people western colonialists catholics protestants and non western white people who live in Eastern Europe Orthodox Christians not colonialists.....
“Western” has progressed to a political definition, not a literal location one. SA was very western alligned during apartheid, now days not so much
Fascinating. Manners were fashionable, and people spoke respectfully.
How can a White supremacist speak respectfully or have manners?... the cognitive dissonance.
As the saying goes actions speak louder than words
@Dystopic aura None of your indigenous black people have ancestral roots in South Africa . Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a norm . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around . if africa belongs to blacks only , then get the fu... out of Europe ,South America Asia and USA right now DIVERSITY WHAT A HOGWASH IT IS - AN UTOPIAN IDIOCRACY ONE HAS TO ONLY LOOK AT DETROIT CHICAGO BALTIMORE NEW YORK CITY
While apartheid was by no means a particularly nice system it is striking just how sophisticated and well run South Africa appeared in those days.
lol, so was Nazi germany, that's what happens when you loot from a population ....... you have no basic understanding of economics..... i feel sad for you.....justifying edxploitation
Not that striking. If most of the wealth and infrastructure caters for a fraction of the actual population, it is very easy for things to run smoothly.
Absolutely. The Apartheid government was very efficient, to its constituency. It was also heavily supported by the British because it agreeid ( and did with efficiency) to look after Britain's mining interests, a sector that changed the face of the country, fueled and sustained its development (economically). The fundamental weakness is that this was achieved through oppression.
It was not well run. People could not vote. While whites could visit or stay with any family member in any part of the country while non whites couldn't is proof. The country was far from well run. Average Afrikaans speaking businesses would have loved to employ blacks who had better skills than whites but the government did not allow. Badly run.
That is very true if you were the right skin colour.
It's one think to be sympathetic, it is another thing entirely to surrender privilege and share with all people.
Unless perhaps you don't have a choice
@@Sleak45 They Had a Choice, But they Preferred to Use the Hatefilled Force of Apartheid to Steal another people's country ; After all they LEFT their own White countries Behind to Go to Africa for a Better life, that they Did Not have where they came from.
Indeed, Where ever white Foreign Immigrants go, there is Always some Hate Apartheid going on. They should Stayed Where they belong.
@I met a Boy I used to Know - yes! Indeed...
What does sharing privelege look like, and how does it happen?
I'm not asking because i disagree, i actually agree with you. But we need to start talking about these details in society. And it's tricky because besides racism theres also a class struggle.
@@darrenrodgers6425 racism is a red herring that derails and divides the lower classes from getting a better lot in society based on the only sustainable means which is merit based ascension.
When that women refered to old men as "boys" and spoke about giving them a hiding 😡. We have come a long way.
I think she was literally referring to boys who deliver milk not grown men. I could be mistaken but that’s the impression I got
Yes that’s your impression always but there are no more racist In our Africa weed them all out
@@tau3ahamakhoa no white people have tendency to belittle black men by calling them boys
It was just a way of speaking, we called the ladies ousies, that meant (sister). Many white afrikaners were good to them.. the government made the rules, all were not bad as they are stereotyping. I remember as a child feeling sad for them and always tried to help or give them a job so they could have food on their tables aswel. The cruel ness they propagate in a lot of things is not true. They could have had black schools aswell but I think the infrastructure were not good enough as many whites were still trying to build something out of nothing with the knowledge they had. Gouverment is in controle… it is Easter said then done to change ways when you are struggling to look after your own family. There are so many things to be said.. but I know that I never looked down on them
@@zelda6285 way of speaking but they never call adult white man boy only to brown and black ADULT men they use word boy as belittling them
Very interesting
South Africa was no different from America in the 1960s and before
i would like to believe it was different. Both places had dumb goverments but the NP and it's apartheid was the dumbest. All the skills they missed out on only because people are a certain colour. South Africa seems to not have had any liberals in government during the NP rule hence it was easy to have these dumb laws they had. USA may have been racist in the 60's but none whites had opportunities. None whites could criticize the government and not get exiled or banned like Mirriam Makheba was.
@@iBhacaBeats then you need to pick up an American history book. Segregation in America really didn’t officially end until the early 70s. Furthermore under apartheid Asians and south Asians fared better and had more opportunities than the blacks
Complete nonsense.
@@simonf8902 nope
In some states it was close to that, Jim Crow etc. But in the other states, non-whites could vote without problem and be elected as well. Therefore, your statement is at best half true.
Grown men greeting the white mine boss....absolutely cringe worthy
Like children ....
Uk political and ware fare history also played a big roll in South Africa following up to Apartheid and the installment of a new governing body called ANC, many white Afrikaners also have English man blood in them with the integration of society meaning the Afrikaner cannot be look up on solely for the devastation of Apartheid on any group. Interesting topic when diamonds was found in Kimberly by the Afrikaner, British intervention came through from the eastern coast through KZN and devastated the Zulu tribe and their culture reforming them to Christianity
None of your indigenous black people have ancestral roots in South Africa Because it was mostly uninhabitable dry land . Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a norm . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around . if africa belongs to blacks only , then get the fu... out of Europe ,South America Asia and USA right now . DIVERSITY WHAT A HOGWASH IT IS - AN UTOPIAN IDIOCRACY .ONE HAS TO ONLY LOOK AT DETROIT CHICAGO BALTIMORE NEW YORK CITY
To my conclusion both Mrs Nadine Gordimer and Mrs Helen Suzman spoke words that flamed beams of hope to the birth of a rainbow nation
It's very interesting to contrast videos from this era with ones from today. Check Walk Africa to see candid views of the J-Burg streetscape of today. It's now vibrant with thousands of people walking the streets, but it's also clearly going back to nature through rampant deterioration. It will be interesting to see how it looks in ten years if we can.
The messed up thing about this is that it was implemented in the 20th century and not just some collapsing sytem they where still using
None of your indigenous black people have ancestral roots in South Africa Because it was mostly uninhabitable dry land . Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a norm . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around . if africa belongs to blacks only , then get the fu... out of Europe ,South America Asia and USA right now . DIVERSITY WHAT A HOGWASH IT IS - AN UTOPIAN IDIOCRACY .ONE HAS TO ONLY LOOK AT DETROIT CHICAGO BALTIMORE NEW YORK CITY
"Only city south of Cairo"!! What about Cape Town, Durban, Pretoria, Salisbury, Luanda and Lourenco Marques?
Which were also all built by whites - southern Africa
I am a white guy dating a black girl in post apartheid South Africa I did my masters IN international human rights law so I guess reconciliation is very much here nkosi sikeleli iafrika malaphunkanyisw phondo lwayo moreno boloka setjhaba sa heso o fendeise les matswenyeho uit die blou van onse hemel oor die diepte van ons see oor ewige gebergtes waar die kraanse antwood gee and Yes I can speak Afrikaans Xhosa zulu and English
Did Europeans build those cities or came up with designs that Africans used to construct those cities? Africans have also built cities throughout their history, check out the Malian empire, the kingdom of kush, Great Zimbabwe and Zanzibar to name a few.
@@randymarsh631 Those were ancient cities no more advanced than any at the time. They obviously weren’t great metropolises; those are lies put forward by idiots like Al Sharpton to hide the primitive history and nature of Africans. No, most development in contemporary Africa can be traced back to white settlers. Go onto Google Earth, hover over all Africa, and load the blue roads.. in Africa, the only roads are found in the three major areas formerly settled by whites.. southern Africa ( S. Africa, Zimbabwe etc ), the Tanzania / Kenya area in the east, and the Gold Coast of Nigeria and smaller nations in the north west. There are huge tracts of land in the middle, in the Congo etc, that ought to be more built up but aren’t, as whites never really went there. So in short, thank the whites
@@randymarsh631 ...all ruins really.
Was this filmed in Birmingham in 2020?
"Compassion rather than seeking for justice ". One isn't going without the other.
During the 1960s I lived in an upper-middle class housing estate (flats, not houses) in South London. I am South Asian. Everyone else was white. I thought I noticed that the tentacles of apartheid South Africa were an inspiration and example setter to those kinds of people and it impacted my parents and myself. I rejoiced when apartheid fell because it is almost a dead cert that those kinds of people have lost the living inspiration to treat people like my good self they way they did. By the way, I listen to National Alliance radio because I am sure in my bones that the people there in the USA want to bring those days and those ways back. :)
Like " make America great again" MAGA!
I suggest you speak to an average Indian South African to find out whether they preferred apartheid living or today's situation.
@@dannyarcher6370 Why when both segments constitute less than 15% of the population combined. They count for s. .t!
Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a normalcy . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around
😂😂😂being born in a wrong era is painful, they can still goto India it's not far
Those white ladies clapping at the black women while making them do the hokey pokey was the most cringe thing I seen in awhile
Being from Louisiana, I can relate to much of this.
it all seemed like it would never end.
I'm so glad that all people of South Africa are now enjoying their freedom.
*_Yes, within a crumbling and dying country filled with crime and low standards. Welcome to your country and its non-future!_*
You must be blind and deaf. “Freedom”… the country has no future, everything is looted to the roots.
If only the rest of the world was aware of how bad things are in SA right now. Seems like once apartheid fell the world forgot about us
The only report that we got here in Australia is from Sky News telling us that South Africa experienced black-outs since last year. @@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202
I have great respect for people like Nadine Gordimer my her fierce personality live forever.
I was born 1970 in neighbor Mozambique, still a Portuguese colony and Johanesburg was a strong commercial and technologycal influence on us, such as Durban
The most disturbing thing is that these evil people don’t want to acknowledge the evil and damage that they have done and how apartheid could never be justified. They call themselves “God Fearing” people and yet very evil and cruel.
Interesting lucid take of the economic boom of the 60s which supposedly lead to high divorce rate because of the 'easy life' for the suburban women of Johannesburg who got up to mischief with the free time as claimed by respondents.
Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a normalcy . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around . if africa belongs to blacks only , then get the fu... out of Europe ,South America Asia and USA right now DIVERSITY WHAT A HOGWASH T IS , AN UTOPIAN IDIOCRACY
I dont understand it,ppl who say apartheid was better, omg to think that i wouldnt be where i am today as a black person,living in the neighborhood i live in,my kids going to the school they attend.my word i feel so proud going into a hospital and seeing black doctors,black pilots,black owned business,black owned mansions lol how convenient that ppl only focus on the black ppl who live in squarter camps then those who have prospered and probably never would have under arpatheid. Im one for growth,imagine being stuck in one place no matter how hard i work,i could never. Idc. What yall say arpatheid was a fricken horror show and no one deserved that
Tenders ...self made 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 living a lie ...1000 times more deaths and rapes than in those years . Sure did turn out a real success ..
This documentary was not even long ago but they made it colorless to make it seems it was long ago
Colour film and photography were not widespread yet. It only started to take off at around this time, and only really became more widespread in the 1970s.
At 18:30 the women are so brutal honest about the sheltered life it ain't no joke
It will never be over until the people of God take their rightful place upon the earth.
Who's the people of God?
@@priehowell8825 . Coincidentally, Today I saw a video of a white mother teaching her daughter survival skills. She told her this ;" If you ever get lost, and you are scared, look around for a big black man and tell him you are lost."
Sort of wraps it up.
Seeing a building my great grandfather put an elevator into, realising he may have been there the day this footage was shot.
Great grandfather? Bet you couldn't even say his name if I asked you...
@@Smudgeroon74 Cecil Martin, Memorial Order of the Tin Hats. Like why come with such negative energy bro?
@@Comrade_Jason true, Nigel sounds like a doos.
Be proud of your great grandfather, Cecil Martin, M.O.T.H Keep his story alive.
@@Smudgeroon74 Like you knew him, foken doos
A wonderful time ... Of you lived through it then you’ll know what a glorious country SA was
It is so sad that people can't live together in peace.
If only there was no racism in South Africa, the country would have been the best in Africa, or even among the best in the world. Racism is the root course of problems in South Africa.
None of your indigenous black people have ancestral roots in South Africa . Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a norm . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around . if africa belongs to blacks only , then get the fu... out of Europe ,South America Asia and USA right now . DIVERSITY WHAT A HOGWASH IT IS - AN UTOPIAN IDIOCRACY .ONE HAS TO ONLY LOOK AT DETROIT CHICAGO BALTIMORE NEW YORK CITY
All that talk about nazis and racism is becoming booooring will you come up with something more original lol .The problem in South Africa in time of racial separation was - whites did not offer to impoverished poor black analphabets - immigrants immediately a brand new mercedes a villa and a free admittance to university not to mention free food ,water and electric oh and do not forget about central air conditioning free of course , only this way would impoverished poor black analphabets be satisfied and stop protesting ; All blacks want is to dominate , to get free money ,someone else's property and rule over everyone else , just like under shaka zulu . All that talk about equal rights , diversity and democracy is just a giant bs and a smoke screen to fool gullible white useful idiots .Moochers will be moochers .Before white men arrived in Africa cannibalism / tribal warfare . slavery . voodoo ,epidemies NAKED TITS and millions dying prematurely was a normalcy . nobody asked blacks to keep immigrating from surrounding countries into South Africa .if blacks did not liked better economical prospects in SA then they should have stayed where they were born .blacks keep playing victims and yell racism but if not for white men they would still live in straw huts and run naked around
The Palestinians have suffered 😔
End Apartheid today.
Well they got what they wanted... everything we fought for in South Africa now poestoe. Hope you guys are happy.
In spite of all the horrible atrocities... Those were truly the golden years for South Africa. I fear that never again will the infrastructure, economy or living conditions be as robust as it was back then.
Those were truly the golden years for white South Africa ,they were miserable years for the everybody else. The infrastructure, economy or living condition was horrible for the majority.
Those were the glory days for you? What about those who were treated as non human?
@@math97003 You say that but what has black people done for black people? Are your people free? Do you have jobs or electricity or running water? You have social grants and crime and unemployment. Your hospitals are failing and your schools are disastrous. What most people don't know is that even the RDP houses that were "given" by the state are not theirs. Black people were not treated fairly. That is a fact. But after 1994, neither was anyone one else.
@@johanvandersandt8904 Yes we do have jobs ,electricity and running water .There are many people who are not employed but Most people are not on social grant or unemployed or involved in crime .There are many government hospitals and schools that are doing well like Mbilwi Secondary School. People are living a far better life than they did before 1994 its a fact.
@@math97003 How much is a litre of petrol now? Look at Wits University now its falling apart. No clean toilet in Joburg.
Cable theft and electricity blackouts. Drug addicts and crime everywhere.
What are you defending?
The city of gold, the gold that never belonged to the country, black or white. ANGLO gold says it all, colonised and annexed by the British. There must be a reason why this is circulating specifically now again. Serious questions needs to be answered around the state capture of South Africa and the involvement of companies like Bel Pottinger. All blame was put on the Gupta’s but in my opinion, they were mere financial hitmen, sent by the biggest criminals who runs the world.
What do you mean black or white? it’s Africa Amanda so if belongs to anyone it’s blacks.
You saying the theft has been been equally shared by black & white? Cecil Rhodes & Nazis planned otherwise.
,Africa population has quadrupled,in 1950 Africa population was tiny 177 million,smaller than present day Nigeria and in 2020 it was 1.3 billion and predicted to double by 2050 to 2.5 billion,thanks to aid ,food, medicine and technology from the west
@@manolo9799 the Roman empire ruled also in Africa, by saying “black or white” I mean everybody who were born in Africa. Everybody, I should have said black to white because there are many colours in between as well. Not necessarily referring to race or ethnicity but more a collective of people born in one continent, caring for and about each other, not allowing senseless debates about skin colour to divide them to be conquered by other people.
@@johnmcdonald9295 also a reaction to mass murder (under colonialism), common with many earth species. A rebound.
From one of the richest cities in the western world to a slum in 20 years
Life is not about money .
Hmm I wonder why?🤔
it was when it was only for the white , once it was for all people the city became poor cos its black population was never rich and happens to be the majority.
the whites are richer than ever and mandela left their wealth intact
R u blind to injustice
It's not difficult to be rich if you dispossess an entire nation of its property and belongings, enslave it'd citizens and pocket all the proceeds for their time and effort. The difference now is that the government is not only servicing 4% of the population as it did during apartheid. It has to service 100%. Now that same population that the Apartheid regime oppressed now has to get up to speed with eductaion, skills and systems. That means that for the foreseeable future, the black population will be Nett consumers and will rely on whatever exonomic gains that were made during oppression to carry it until the the historical disparities are corrected.
--I didn't know Gordon Brown was a reporter before joining the Labour Party 1:53
--when they got full liberty, the black supermajority should have figured out a way to harness the European ingenuity and business acumen of the white minority better, to build South Africa into the rough equivalent of one of the poorer European nations. Seems a bit chaotic down there since freedom, and not particularly on a strong path upwards, economically.
Nah, minorities make too good of a scapegoat for ANC failure.
Some had that sort of vision but prejudice and racial hatred on both sides as well as opportunism meant that whites were pushed out of jobs starting with government and Municipalitys. They were replaced with people often without education or experience and high ups who don't know how to run organizations. The greed for power, money, contracts, dominance and politics has ruined most of government
Kwela, song by Belafonte tells about the 'man' picking up anyone they want to and locking them away.
4:30 What about Salisbury?
*Glares in Rhodisian*
15:48 - "Uh, children. Is this your only child?"
"Yes."
My how times have changed.
Brother, what kind of anecdotal conclusions are you drawing from a single instance of a single question?
@@VoidUnderTheSun Do I need to spell it out for you?
This is much more than a racial issue.....as far as the average White during the entire occupation of SA, from the 1600's, was concerned it was more of a species issue......Whites did not consider the Blacks to be human but more as a savage sub species.....even the Dutch Reformed Church preached that the Blacks were sub human.
Blacks and non-Blacks are different species. Blacks are "genetically superior" to all races as a matter of fact. Lack of melanin is a symptom of "genetic deficiency" and the higher presence of melanin is a symptom of "genetic superiority" under the sun.
Different species cannot co-exist in one "breeding ground". Segregation is fundamental. Any attempts to engineer a society that disregards this difference unleashes "ecological catastrophe" ( Racial instability)
@@xeliy If what you think is true, I just can't understand why the Blacks are at the bottom of the ladder of opportunity and progression.....the Blacks haven't realised the potential advantages of the wheel.....they have a long way to go.
@@gangleweed Your forefathers design social programs to antagonise the progression of Blacks - fact check!.
@@gangleweed segregation must be applied in all spheres (If you understand the implications of that statement).
@@xeliy Segregation.........there is no " must" .......it is an intolerance to the presence of another being.......some Blacks cannot tolerate Whites.
From one of the richest cities in the western world to look at it now
Sabotaging
Joburg is an absolute dump now. It truly is.
Yup, monkeys can only throw poo.
why didnt the old government include everyone ???
Greed
Let's not forget that it was common to see signs in windows in London at this time that said 'No Irish, No dogs, No blacks'. Perhaps British law was more intelligent and tolerant, but society was racist.
Ahh! The good old days!
Essentially "stateless," at 17:10.
Very disturbing, yet insightful peek into apartheid South Africa... One understands how Blacks taking up arms was the only way out of the quagmire.
it brakes my heart that today our ladies still working for whites
So, what is being done about it?
It is because they ask for a job at the whites..
The end of the ANC is near! What a great time to be alive.
All blacks want is to dominate , to get free money ,someone else's property and rule over everyone else , just like under shaka zulu . All that talk about equal rights , diversity and democracy is just a giant bs and a smoke screen to fool gullible white useful idiots .Moochers will be moochers .
The good old days
If I was alive during those times, I would have fought against this disgusting apartheid regime. (From a white 35 year old women)
You can still fight it now lady. Where you live
Yeah, a lot of Whites were against this evil and most of them were killed by the Apartheid government too
thank god apartheid collapsed dankie dien apartheid nie werk nie ndiakakhulu inkozi abantu abalulanan ababenzile
Helen Suzman is right about who supported her political stance; only trouble was we could only vote for her party if we lived in the right voting constituency. If not, we could choose the ruling National party, or more conservative racist parties. South Africa was not a democracy ... the minority of citizens who could vote were still limited as to who we could vote for. That's why one party was in power for 40 years 🙄. Thanks be to God for the end of apartheid.
A right to live in a particular city of your own country ... how ridiculous. And our enlightened civilization thought that was tenable.
South Africa post-apartheid turned out well.
they did they have one of the best healthcare systems in Africa.
and a strong stock exchange market.
@@jamesmitch9792 LOL. South Africa life expectancy during apartheid in 1991 was 10 years longer than it was post-apartheid in 2001.
The country has now one of the highest rates of rape in the world.
@@MikeFoxtrot1 one of the highest reported because none of this was reported in the Bantustans
so try again buddy.
@@jamesmitch9792 What are you on about?
@@jamesmitch9792 The stock market isn't doing so well now.
There is greater suffering in 2022 than in 1968. Most people will confirm this.
History revisionist and Apartheid apologist...
There's no such. When you say most people you sound like the white rich woman who said most South Africans while mentioning minority white people
The short lived development created for blacks since 92' was done by the ANC to offset criticism when they came to power, however they had to drop a lot of their mad manifesto promises and utilise the arms industry to pay for a lot of it. They became slaves themselves to their own greed, (Zuma etc.,) and now are trying to blame whites for the mess they created themselves. The 60's were a time of change in the western world, not just SA, and the whites had no option but to continue their system till somehow they could find a why to modify it gradually without the descent into war that they always feared.
@@Enoch940 that is correct.
Stop your lies people are just fighting a new battle one they've been for years called poverty
We will never forget
And how it finish .
Such a shame what it looks like today , 🤡🤡🤡
Yes- like, if only there was land reform or something to give them back majority land and resource ownership, the one thing the official/public end of Apartheid expressly prohibited.
was it not a shame back them? Hence I say we should take back the land because Whites like you don't deserve reconciliation
White man's perception is not a black man's perception, In 2023 South Africa is the best country in Africa. I love you Mzansi. Tell me you love Australia too Seany hahahahahahahahaha
@@sergegainsbourgii1852 lol the white nations will never allow that.
@denzel1877 you just cannot admit that you k@ffers buggered us all.
Joanesburgo era uma das cidades maiores do capital mundial-era a maior praça financeira do mundo --hoje só tem mendigos. Alguma coisa tá errado.
And how great is South Africa now with freedom :)
It actually is great compared to hoe people lived during apartheid
It is great for a black man hahahahahaha and worse off for a whitey! Happy now? I can feel your pain hahahaha
It's a shit hole now.
All the highways etc going to the dogs.
Worst it's ever been
It’s none of your business
Nothing has changed for Black people. Wealth remains in White hands and the ANC enriches itself only while bring shielded by the rich Whites whose interests it protects. And I'm not sure whether you're suggesting that Black people should give up their freedom for money. Actually the two are needed
Why does it say it's in Fremantle Western Australia when it's in Joberg, huh?