Tim Thomas: RANKED ABOVE KOBE BRYANT?? From #1 Player in the Nation to NBA Journeyman | FPP

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  • čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
  • In the mid 90s, there was a high schooler named Tim Thomas, who at one point was ranked above the great Kobe Bryant, as the nation’s top player. Thomas was a player built in the mold of a LeBron James or Kevin Durant. He was 6’10” and a solid 240 pounds, yet he could handle the ball, run the court, finish at the rim, post up and was even a dangerous long range shooter. Tim Thomas had everything in his arsenal, and it seemed all but guaranteed that he would be an all time great. But once he got to the NBA, he underwhelmed and never seemed to even get close to his full potential. He would show you flashes every season of just how great he could be, but spent his career bouncing around teams, as he would often be picked up after a great showing, only to fail to live up to expectations. He spent some time in Philly with a young Allen Iverson, then teamed with Ray Allen, Glenn Robinson and Sam Cassell for his longest tenure in Milwaukee. But after this, he would spend no more than 2 seasons on any other NBA team for the second half of his career. He would have some memorable performances such as his 2006 playoff run with the Steve Nash led “7 Seconds or less” Phoenix Suns, but aside from that, would have an uneventful career. It’s not that Tim Thomas had a bad career, it’s just that everyone knew that he could be so much better, but you always take into consideration what’s going on behind the scenes, and for Tim Thomas, he spent a lot his career caring for his sick wife, even walking away from the game in 2010 for exactly that reason. So, maybe his mind wasn’t all there for completely understandable reasons; and at the day, he can live happily, knowing he still put in the work to set himself up to retire early, and care for his wife, without ever having to worry about money.
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  • @thetruthstand
    @thetruthstand Před 5 měsíci +13

    I saw this dude's entire career. I can remember talking about this dude in high school. One of the greatest under achievers of all time. I'm a little less critical now because of the knowledge that he had a very sickly wife. It's possible that being the "best" or becoming the goat wasn't a priority.

  • @everythingbyjohn
    @everythingbyjohn Před 5 měsíci +42

    Bro I love how you use the exact footage and pictures of the actual years they were playing. I love and respect that. Salute.

  • @SYKOPATHeist
    @SYKOPATHeist Před 5 měsíci +13

    Tim was a Beast in High School for Paterson Catholic...saw him play a lot in state and county tournaments
    thought he was going to go straight to the league and be a legend.
    unfornately i was wrong on both accounts...shame....a lot of raw talent

    • @Ninjersey1
      @Ninjersey1 Před 3 měsíci

      I saw him in wildwood memorial weekend I knew it was him immediately I was the only one,once people saw me asking for autograph they was on his nuts 😂

  • @eugenedantzler4485
    @eugenedantzler4485 Před 5 měsíci +18

    I never knew his wife was sick! That could weigh on anyone during a game. 💯💯💯

    • @OrionOodama
      @OrionOodama Před 4 měsíci +5

      And it's been said he is willing to set aside basketball so he could fully meet his obligations by taking care of her without distractions.
      (Well, it helped he had a guaranteed huge money and hopefully he was a good steward.)

  • @bbryant9455
    @bbryant9455 Před 5 měsíci +5

    I used to use him all the time on Kobe Bryant's NBA Courtside on N64 lol good times good times 🤣

  • @Davidc9356
    @Davidc9356 Před 5 měsíci +13

    A players id like to see is ,Harold "baby Jordan" Minor.

  • @STONESGAM
    @STONESGAM Před 5 měsíci +5

    I'm from Milwaukee and watched Tim Thomas play for many years with the Bucks. The guy literally had every single tool and ability a player could ask for except he played with no heart whatsoever.
    And when they gave him a six year-66 million contract based off playing well in one playoff series his drive seemed to go down even more. He played well here and there but was totally inconsistent and seemed to often be going through the motions.

    • @Watchingvideoslikeu
      @Watchingvideoslikeu Před 4 měsíci

      I feel like that’s the story of a lot of the players from the 2000’s

  • @cooperdeshawn
    @cooperdeshawn Před 4 měsíci +3

    Seems like Thomas would have thrived had he been able to play with the Suns his entire career or a similar uptempo offense. I think coaches didn’t know what to do with him because he was so versatile. He would thrive in today’s NBA.

  • @calebdouglas7622
    @calebdouglas7622 Před 5 měsíci +5

    He’s still a Milwaukee legend in my book

  • @kincamell2
    @kincamell2 Před 5 měsíci +4

    I recall reading about him in a 1996 issue of Slam Magazine.

  • @MrMixItup
    @MrMixItup Před 5 měsíci +3

    Tim left A LOT ON THE TABLE. With that said, some players don’t have the perceived energy and/or drive as others. Tim Thomas reminds me a lot of T-Mac. Both guys were big for their perimeter positions, super athletic with three range. But never really became what they could have (although T-Mac managed to snake slither through the grass for a championship at San Antonio).

    • @samuraibeastwarrior2886
      @samuraibeastwarrior2886 Před 5 měsíci

      he lost in 2013 thank to Ray Allen

    • @J_Ru31352
      @J_Ru31352 Před 5 měsíci +1

      T-Mac was only part of that Spurs roster in 2013 for a playoff run rarely used.

  • @GHOST91141
    @GHOST91141 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I can't believe those Bucks teams with Ray Allen, Casell, Big Dog & Tim Thomas didn't make a Finals together

    • @martinjohnson41
      @martinjohnson41 Před 5 měsíci +4

      For real agree 💯 They had enough talent that they should of made it at least once . Wasnt there one year they went the distance with 76ers

    • @martinjohnson41
      @martinjohnson41 Před 5 měsíci +1

      In ECF

    • @J_Ru31352
      @J_Ru31352 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@martinjohnson41yes it was for the 2001 Eastern Conference Finals going seven games.

    • @Ninjersey1
      @Ninjersey1 Před 3 měsíci

      They would’ve been better comp than 76ers Nets in those finals they choked mainly Big Dog Sam and Ray did well

  • @HopsNewportNews
    @HopsNewportNews Před 5 měsíci +3

    A Huge reason Tim Thomas didn't reach his individual potential is because he spent his prime on teams that Already had established talent. He was Expected to develop into a superstar, but be used as a complimentary player
    He started out with an unstable, young Philly squad that had Bubba Chuck & Stack feuding over "who was the # 1 option was." Along with Larry Brown as a egocentric HC who wanted equal attention as his players
    Then got shipped to Milwaukee with an established Big 3 (Cassell, Allen & Robinson.)
    Then in NY, with Marbury, the Knicks kept adding pieces like J Crossover etc
    He gets a label as being nonchalant & lazy, yet doesn't get Applauded for how great of a teammate he was...
    He easily could've complained, in Philly about being underutilized in favor of a George Lynch. Or griped about having to come off the bench, at PF, Milwaukee. When he was a more versatile scorer and better defender then Big Dog Robinson as the starting SF
    Outside of not trying to challenge Michael Redd as the # 1 option in Milwaukee, after the Big 3 were dealt, Thomas has handled himself like a true professional

  • @Thought.You.Had.A.Friend_74
    @Thought.You.Had.A.Friend_74 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Bucks legend... Apart of that "iconic" Milwaukee Bucks roster. Led my Jesus Shuttlesworth, Mad Daawg Glen Robinson, Sam Cassell, Timmy Thomas, Caffey, Devin Ham, Desmond Mason... Y'all KNOW the vibes.

    • @4392amtrak
      @4392amtrak Před 5 měsíci +1

      Coach George Karl

    • @martinjohnson41
      @martinjohnson41 Před 5 měsíci

      That was a dope well rounded team. Thomas was real underated

    • @stevencollins920
      @stevencollins920 Před 5 měsíci

      Desmond mason & ray allen never played with each other they were traded for each other

    • @RoyPage1970
      @RoyPage1970 Před měsícem

      Gary Payton was part of the deal also​@@stevencollins920

  • @cooperdeshawn
    @cooperdeshawn Před 4 měsíci +1

    I had forgotten how good Tim was coming out of HS. I also forgot he was rated higher than Kobe and Jermaine O’Neal at times during HS.

  • @nicholaslatham8534
    @nicholaslatham8534 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hey bro I just got recommended this video in the home page and they didn’t steer me wrong new sub dope channel and concept

  • @jdbondy
    @jdbondy Před 5 měsíci

    GREAT video! Timmy always popped when he was coming up on a new contract. That Suns run was $$$$

  • @neboyshanicolich761
    @neboyshanicolich761 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Tim Thomas was the hype back in the day. Had more talent than Kobe and all the rest of the guys from 96.

    • @funbomb1102
      @funbomb1102 Před 5 měsíci

      No he didn’t

    • @ehrenthompson7891
      @ehrenthompson7891 Před 4 měsíci

      He did. Kobe would tell you himself that he was not the most talented guy. It was his mind that set him apart.

    • @haneecamper3100
      @haneecamper3100 Před 3 měsíci

      He absolutely had more talent then Kobe i was a 96 grad i remember my AAU coach called him Shawn Kemp with a jumper he a Tmac might be the greatest high school players ever

  • @robbark9635
    @robbark9635 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Timmy Thomas... The originator of the double headband lol

  • @VicDamoneJr82
    @VicDamoneJr82 Před 4 měsíci

    well done man!

  • @lashgoshotwheels1127
    @lashgoshotwheels1127 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank you 😊

  • @MultiChaim
    @MultiChaim Před 5 měsíci +4

    still no Sprewell vid ? i guess you working on it )) he he ... so Sprewell and Dee Brown are next i guess ?? ))

  • @mams1701
    @mams1701 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Now how about a video on Kenyon Martin? 🤞 😃👍

  • @omarp2207
    @omarp2207 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Do OJ Mayo

  • @charleonenixon2nd533
    @charleonenixon2nd533 Před 4 měsíci

    Aye, can you do my favorite player??
    #3 JOHN STARKS New York Knicks.
    Make sure you get the baseline dunk over the Bulls team. And he has John Starks Day in Oklahoma.

  • @mozzarellastick3730
    @mozzarellastick3730 Před 2 měsíci

    2k legend TT

  • @donavonhoward114
    @donavonhoward114 Před 5 měsíci

    Tim Thomas was a special talent, but everybody is special in the NBA. There were many guys ranked above MJ as well in all levels of basketball, and both MJ and Kobe were not expected to be even nearly as great as they became. That's why the draft in any sport is unquantifiable. We could do all of the studying of who are the most NBA/NFL ready players to enter the draft, but in reality it tells us nothing about their character, or their determination to improve. Tim Thomas might have been ranked higher than Kobe in high school, but I bet if they played against each other even as high schoolers, Kobe would have dominated him head to head because Kobe already had all of the skills, but he also had intangibles that the vast majority of people do not have, including Tim Thomas.

  • @usmankenchi908
    @usmankenchi908 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Brian Grant

  • @leftlaneopm5186
    @leftlaneopm5186 Před 4 měsíci

    Im from Boston n I think he a jersey kid I heard of bro b4 I seen him put it like THIS if the internet was a thing back then bro hype would been Zion lebron wemby type shyt 💯never bloomed but he had moments

  • @keyodi
    @keyodi Před 4 měsíci

    Ah man I remember him; he had all the ability on the world; 6’10 230lbs/ great athleticism / handle/ jump shot/ I thought the sizer got an periennal all star

  • @Bart848
    @Bart848 Před 5 měsíci

    Buck Williams,Mookie Blaylock,Charles Oakleyj John starks

  • @4392amtrak
    @4392amtrak Před 5 měsíci

    Can you do one on Big Z, aka LeBron's first all-star teammate?

  • @elbolsillo
    @elbolsillo Před 5 měsíci

    He was solid for Phoenix. Especially in the playoffs. Granted it was that only season.

  • @samuraibeastwarrior2886
    @samuraibeastwarrior2886 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Tim Thomas could of got a ring in 2010-2011 had he stay with the Mavs

  • @armendarizosvaldo26
    @armendarizosvaldo26 Před 5 měsíci

    I would like one a video about Horace Grant

  • @thatprettymadafoka
    @thatprettymadafoka Před 5 měsíci

    We need the James worthy video

  • @johnpablo7716
    @johnpablo7716 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Patersons Finest #playaz

  • @user-qm1mo9ks8l
    @user-qm1mo9ks8l Před 5 měsíci

    With his size and athleticism he should have been way better smh. Him never averaging more than 14 is crazy. His growth definitely got stunted by the teams he was playing for

  • @dontayelogan911
    @dontayelogan911 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Tim was dope af!!🎉 Dood was a problem! Forget the dumb shi!

  • @birdbangbobaruni
    @birdbangbobaruni Před 4 měsíci

    Do Richard Dumas

  • @master-kq3nw
    @master-kq3nw Před 5 měsíci

    👍

  • @Magicstockton
    @Magicstockton Před 5 měsíci

    First Jeff Green. All the talent to be a monster no drive and work ethic to be amongst the greats.

    • @floorgeneral309
      @floorgeneral309 Před 5 měsíci +1

      He literally had heart surgery in his 20s, tough to reach your potential after that no matter your work ethic

  • @MrJbee73
    @MrJbee73 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Native Patersonian ✊🏿

  • @3912James
    @3912James Před 5 měsíci

    Had he played for the Bulls during the epic 1st round vs. the Celtics....they would've won.

  • @MrBrink-bz3nk
    @MrBrink-bz3nk Před 4 měsíci

    The original Draymond Green

  • @ncnyc4418
    @ncnyc4418 Před 5 měsíci

    Tim only went hard during contract years

  • @8bitkid129
    @8bitkid129 Před 5 měsíci

    Day 3 of asking for Antawn Jamison

  • @youtuber3328
    @youtuber3328 Před 5 měsíci

    no disrespect to tim thomas but for me these interests/hobbies did do and will go in this EXACT order #1 wilt chamberlain #2 kareem abdul-jabbar #3 patrick ewing #4 willis reed #5 moses malone #6 dave cowens #7 sixers #8 bucks and #9 knicks

  • @theorangeswami7981
    @theorangeswami7981 Před 5 měsíci

    Tim Thomas had the skills and natural talent to be an all yime great. So much wasted potential...

  • @Flury94
    @Flury94 Před 5 měsíci

    And then the mavs won the chip, kinda sad man.

  • @Civilwartrucks
    @Civilwartrucks Před 5 měsíci

    Western conference happened

  • @quintonmack9578
    @quintonmack9578 Před 5 měsíci

    bro was born in the wrong era. He would b kuzma or j.grant in todays nba

  • @justinmunson1412
    @justinmunson1412 Před 5 měsíci

    And then just misses a ring

  • @julianwarrenjr879
    @julianwarrenjr879 Před 5 měsíci

    Swing and a miss.