Facts man, and I think it looks suspicious and even more so when u noticed he didn’t counter steer to correct the slide, but man, would he really run the risk of breaking something the car tho. Gotta have some balls to do that.
Yes, but i never thought this was on purpose either. It was just bad luck for Lewis that he couldn't finish the lap as Alonso couldn't do it 2006. But Rascasse parking was on purpose, no question about that. Maybe Lewis was thinking, Nico made kind of the same maneuver like Michael to keep the pole.
Crazy how Max may actually be right. Every crazier is this is when Checo wanted to challenge for the Championship. Even crazier than that is Max picked it up and nobody else did 😐
@@sarveshgovinder2775 I don't know what are you saying but I think max did the right thing and I don't like checo no more because of talking shit on max when he crashed on purpose because that's the only way he can be in front of him
@@sean-pl3us max could have gotten pole position in Monaco, max giving checo p6 is like 2 points extra. There's a huge difference between these two incidents
I was very sceptical when I heard about Checo potentially binning it purpose here, but after re-watching this + the telemetry it's actually pretty obvious. No counter steering and completely different throttle input compared to previous fast laps.
@@pabloespinoza9046 Pole was irrelevant, staying in front of Verstappen was the real goal (since its almost impossible to overtake). At this point Verstappen en Perez were both still fighting for the title.
Kevin Magnussen was seen doing a raindace right after he finished his pole position lap and right after that the session had to be stopped because it started raining. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Looking at this closely now, it certainly does seem like he's accelerating before even hitting the Apex, forcing a spin. Pretty suspicious to be honest.
The problem is he completed lifted afterwards, throwing all the weight to the front tires causing it to spin. It does look really suspicious when you watch it over
@@roghelio I don’t really care if it’s true or not, it’s just that the car accelerated way more than it should have in 2nd gear. Either it was wheelspin, engine malfunction or Perez’s mistake.
I'd love to see the telemetry, almost as if Perez blips the throttle aggressively to lose the rear end. Again I don't know if its normal but it certainly sounds like a aggressive amount of blippage when he's trying to clip the apex of the corner.
Doesnt matter if this was on purpose or not, Max already won the championship, letting Perez go by would mean Red Bull getting 1st and 2nd in the top 3 + show strength and give a massive moral boost for 2023. No reason for Max to behave like that.
What baffles me is the fact that this -deliberate spin- is a sufficient reason for some people to justify an already WDC to shave 2 points off his teammate even if there are multiple instances in which the 2nd RB driver helped the actual WDC that weigh off this particular odd spin. I did not use names just to objectively picture how fucking absurd it is.
Trust me, I was criticizing Max a lot today. But after seeing this, I can understand where his action came from. If you expect him to accept Checo's driving in Monaco quali as a return of favor, it's like Max willingly handing over Checo the WDC 2022, which they were competing for at this point. checo was nowhere near in the position of winning WDC 2021, when he supported Max
@@alexanderneumann894 There is more to it than Monaco alone, today was about team orders as well as securing a 1-2 Redbull driver standing. If for him this grudge was more important I guess soon we'll go back to 1 man strategies against Merc. I can see in no way the positives of this. And if the revenge is the name of the game then that's no team.
Why do you care? Why are you watching this video? Seems like you want to hate on Max rather than cheer on Checo. Max is most likely aiming for the WR in points scored in season. Because WC is another goalpost for him.
Max still behaved like a child, but would explain his anger, because let’s face it, crashing a car just to stay ahead is a pretty shitty movement. but max should have moved on too. If he crashed on purpose, both had massive L’s
The rumour is that it was to stop Max from getting ahead of him since the GP before Monaco was Barcelona where Perez was angry due to the hefty team orders he got there.
I suspect not only VER was on a flying lap, with some still having the chance to pass Checo. That way, he made sure only the Ferraris stay in front and him having to pass only 2 cars to finish P1.
@@andreas1911maxhtec where did he admit this to? seen a lot of people saying it just curious myself. I'm guessing he didn't say it exactly its just speculation?
@@dylan8372 no his telemetry showed he didn’t slam the throttle down. It’s just when a wheel loses traction it sounds like the car revs quickly, not because he is accelerating but because the wheel is moving fast because threes is no traction. Do I need to explain everything to people like you?
@@arnarmagnusson8201 stop talking shit, look at the comparison on telementary between the 2 laps, he slams the throttle for a second and makes no attempt at counter steering it
@@arnarmagnusson8201 how did the wheel lose traction? How does it lose traction every time? Too much torque demand for the grip available. I.e sudden throttle increase. Only needs to be a blip and you are doing half a donut. Having done 40 odd laps already he knew exactly how much throttle he could get away with. This is the crash I would make on a sim by mashing the throttle with zero sensitivity due to me being a regular human.
The corner does seem a bit dodgy with the lack of countersteer but why would he did it when the redbulls were 3/4 and ferrari on pole? I know he went to win it but he couldnt guarantee Ferrari to mess things up. Dutch media says he amitted to Horner/Marko but surely that isnt true either
@@2355Kyle Jep, people oversee this fact. Around Monaco they were close on points and Checo still had a chance on the title. Qualifying is key in Monaco since overtaking is nearly impossible.
@@SiarraD I guess ye, you compare that to the 100s of laps they do in testing, practice and other qualifying and IF, BIG IF, Checo did this, then ja, perhaps there is reason for beef.
To be honest this is not easy to replicate esp rear gone in this and it's an error but doesn't look intentional how many times charles lost the rear and checo also mentioned the same as we see below “I was, I think, quite close to my time, trying to make it up,” he said at the time. “Turn 8 has been a difficult one for me throughout the qualifying session. “So I was trying to anticipate and get quite early on throttle. But as soon as I touched the throttle, I could feel like the rear tyre was not gripping in. “And I was playing with it a bit, until I lost it.”
he didnt touch the throttle, he full on stepped on it. And didnt even attemp to counter steer. A 12 year karting driver wouldn't make this 'mistake', let alone checo, who has one of the best throttle control on the grid
Also he did try to correct steering his immediate reflexes action but it went the other way... I highly doubt checo would crash it intentionally he is one of the best driver on the grid
And even let's say this was intentional or not max should not have to do what he did against sergio esp it was team orders and showed no respect while his teammate needed some crucial points to come 2nd
@@junk301 You don't have time to think what if ??? When the back steps out the instinct is to catch it. Also if he did catch it he would have went into the wall parallel to it and distributed the force evenly along the length of the car, if he just let the rear left hit the wall at an angle the force would have been more localised.
-Random Throttle Blip -No countersteer -Crash by losing rear end at a corner where virtually noone every loses the rear end?(like piquet jr in Singapore) This feels extremely deliberate. But the motives are confusing since he was only in P3? Regardless, Max won already and should have given him p6.
A very good comment sir, I agree with everything here. Its wierd that he presses the throtle like that but regarldes max didn't do the right thing yesterday.
@@spidermann1521 Great comment, but I disagree with the "regardless" part. Except for the fact that he simply fucked with the wrong marine. A true champion doesn't accept that, ever. I guess they're even now. Whenever tempted (again) in the future, Checo will think twice.
Honestly i thought i had lost all respect for Max, but when looking at this i can kinda understand why. I still think it’s overreacting to not give him the place back though.
This is the same kind of move that Schumacher would've done to a teammate that fucked him over in a previous race. Don't know why people are overreacting so much.
After knowing it could be on purpose it seems quite odd ngl especially at that corner which is more like one of the easier and safer(no real danger of getting injured etc) turns of Monaco. It’s not a 100% proof here obviously but interesting to say the least
I feel there was moisture or leaked fluids at that corner for Checo to have spun off under throttle and for Sainz to have also spun off almost identically, even at slower speeds due to the yellow flag and flash of seeing a Red Bull across the circuit. The momentary blip in acceleration before the spin makes me think Checo was "deliberately" trying to improve his lap time by getting on the power earlier, but track conditions were not optimal to do so, but he did not "deliberately" crash (it doesn't feel like Checo's nature to do so, in my opinion).
If you look for abnormalities you're going to find any excuse to back your claim ie: he braked too early, he braked too late, he shifted the steering wheel, he rounded the corner too loose, he rounded the corner too tight, he accelerated too late, he accelerated too early, he looked right instead of left at the straight (joking, but you get the point). The truth is he knows if he crashes and needs to replace an RNC on the car that would cause a grid penalty he would have to take a gamble. I don't think anyone racing at this level is looking to gamble a grid penalty or potential car faults during the race day.
Watching this now, with the rumors of the brazil race, this really looks intentional. Not counter steering and the point where he accelerated for a short amount of time looks like when initiating a drift i.e. to spin on purpose.
@@zaarkeru3391 lol how do you think F1 drivers constantly make corrections to their oversteer snaps of losing control? It’s called counter steering maybe learn some wheel before feeling like a genius.
Yeah guys we all know what happened in Brazil, but why tf are we here now??? F1 is turning into crime thriller or what. Drive to survive will gonna be wild...
Not plausible in my opinion. He risked damaging his gearbox doing it where he did it while in Monaco, there are many places where you can just damage your front suspension on purpose without risking anything and still cause the red flag. I'm not convinced, but what do I know?!
Now that I look at it, indeed he crashed on purpose, that's a sh*tty move to do to sabotage other drivers' qualifying on purpose, what is going on at Redbull wtf
I mean, if you ever look at RB history and behind the scenes, that area and the attitude is unhealthy as fuck. Christian is like the main, it was in Vettel, it was in Riccardo and it is in max era. It's just bad enviroment.
@@contiplays my guess is RB was still not helping checo to fight for championship this year like giving him team orders in previous GP to let max pass. Which forced checo to do something like this.
"I am out then. Sorry" What a shame that he somehow felt he had to do this; the same dick move as Schumacher, but against his own team. I lost pretty much all respect for him since Max's meltdown in Brazil pointed us all in this direction. Things are not going to end well for Checo at Red Bull. What a proper shame.
I suspect not only VER was on a flying lap, with some still having the chance to pass Checo. That way, he made sure only the Ferraris stay in front and him having to pass only 2 cars to finish P1.
Everyone here from Brazil 2022 should go look at Russell’s “crash” at quali this weekend. Set him up nicely for Sprint race since Haas is not competitive with mercs
F1 needs to change the rules on this, now. It can't keep happening - just delete the fastest time (or times?) of any driver who causes a red flag in quali
All most of us are saying is, that much throttle input, at that point in the corner, is very unnatural. This is the type of mistake rookies don't often make.
Monaco is how it started, Brazilian how it is going and we will meet us again next season. Probably they will end than Checos contract and he will have his revenge. #elplan Mexico edition.
@@MajieB no?... if he switch engine or gearbox he loses grid positions. and a damaged gearbox can fail during the race. which again is a massive risk. there was no point putting the car at such risks for P3/4 start
I now understand Max's decision today. You can tell by listening to the throttle application and steering out of the hairpin compared to how he just smashed the throttle and his steering that it was intentional.
@@nikolas6196 Sergio screwing max out of a fast lap in quali and today max wouldn't let Sergio pass him .......🤔 Is there something difficult to understand there ?
@@morganmartin9286 even if what Perez did was deliberate it doesn’t undo all the good he’s done for max he still defended from Hamilton countless times to help max as well as giving him the position and obeying team orders all year round. This one monaco incident shouldn’t make max discard everything else
@@jackhiggins864 Trust me, I was criticizing Max a lot today. But after seeing this, I can understand where his action came from. If you expect him to accept Checo's driving in Monaco quali as a return of favor, it's like Max willingly handing over Checo the WDC 2022, which they were competing for at this point. checo was nowhere near in the position of winning WDC 2021, when he supported Max
Imagine how crazy people are to think this was premeditated . It's just sad. Max's attitude is sad, a 2-time world champion with no spine. He`s still young, maybe he'll learn respect, although I doubt it.
So what’s worse crashing on purpose to stay ahead of your teammate who is the championship favourite and in the middle of a championship fight. Or not handing over a P6 which would get Perez an extra 2 points for 2nd place in the championship which has never been important until now apparently.
Listen to his throttle input, watch how he makes zero effort to counter steer, and conveniently crashes at one of the slowest corners to reduce damage. If Verstappen did this surely he would be worse human of all time in everyone’s eyes right?
@@stevenst6337 You know that when the tires goes the wheelspeed and engine speed will spike... Why would Perez risk his gearbox for a shitty not even p1 start at monaco?.... Max fans really are toxic sludge
Definitely not the latter. He earned that 6th position by racing and beating Perez. So he did nothign wrong. Perez doesn't deserve P2 whether he crashed deliberatly in Monaco or not. LeClerc is better.
Glad to see everyone came to review after Max’s Brazil radio message 😅
haha
He did blip the throttle 🤥
Yeah hè blip indeed 😂
no lies detected
Hi
I never thought I’ll be rewatching this but Brazil 2022 made me do it.
Yeah 😂😂😂😂😂🤣
Facts man, and I think it looks suspicious and even more so when u noticed he didn’t counter steer to correct the slide, but man, would he really run the risk of breaking something the car tho. Gotta have some balls to do that.
Looks like everyone's here
I wonder how many views this had twelve hours ago...
What did happen I don’t follow
He took minister of defence to another level💀
minister of crashgate
He literally made the Great Wall of china
What was a normal crash before turned into a forensic scene after today lmao.
Yeah im not buying it. uNlEsS iTs A cOvErUp By ThE FIA!
Go check telemetry
@Gustavo Araujo Obviously you never played this track on any game/simulation that corner is exactly when you hit the throttle....
@Gustavo Araujo That corner is a pain..... you get on the throttle there.... blindly
@Gustavo Araujo Perhaps he got on it too much but it doesn't seem out of the ordinary at all.
Hamilton and Rosbergs friendship also ended in a Saturday afternoon at Monaco
I would watch a GP with this guy
*Open Google
Yes, but i never thought this was on purpose either. It was just bad luck for Lewis that he couldn't finish the lap as Alonso couldn't do it 2006. But Rascasse parking was on purpose, no question about that. Maybe Lewis was thinking, Nico made kind of the same maneuver like Michael to keep the pole.
Alonso and Hamilton also broke there😅
@@marvinblackheart623 Nico did do it on purpose.
Crazy how so many are rewatching it after 2022 brazil
You're one of them
Crazy how Max may actually be right. Every crazier is this is when Checo wanted to challenge for the Championship. Even crazier than that is Max picked it up and nobody else did 😐
@@sarveshgovinder2775 I don't know what are you saying but I think max did the right thing and I don't like checo no more because of talking shit on max when he crashed on purpose because that's the only way he can be in front of him
"I'm out guys... sorry-- UEAHH
Yes yes, we all came from the Brazilian gran prix 💀
Brazil is always one of if not the Highlight of the season to me. It just never disappoints.
@@marvinblackheart623 facts. also, hi marvin
with all the drama, i feel sorry everytime i hear his voice with the impact with Sainz
don’t feel sorry, he meant this
with all the drama all the controversy it all comes down to this...video!
It really wasn't that bad
@@F1ProStyle And the telemetry. And the way he didn't even counter-steer.
@@1992jamo looks sus
Everyone returning to see if this was deliberate 👀
Finding out that it was and max regaining some respect 🤣
Yeah, i thought max was a dick, but he knew.
@@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 nope
@@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 um no, if this is enough to make max forget about all the things perez did for him you max fans are just as childish as Max
@@sean-pl3us max could have gotten pole position in Monaco, max giving checo p6 is like 2 points extra. There's a huge difference between these two incidents
I was very sceptical when I heard about Checo potentially binning it purpose here, but after re-watching this + the telemetry it's actually pretty obvious. No counter steering and completely different throttle input compared to previous fast laps.
that's why it's called a mistake plus he wasn't even on pole
@@pabloespinoza9046 Pole was irrelevant, staying in front of Verstappen was the real goal (since its almost impossible to overtake). At this point Verstappen en Perez were both still fighting for the title.
@@Crotes1990 please stop defending that soulless person
@@pabloespinoza9046 I'm not defending anyone, I'm sharing my thoughts.
I still can't believe people this dumb actually exist.
Im out man sorry eUhG
bruh just got hit
So your telling me you wouldn’t react to a car hitting you at 50mph
@@FKyler-bu3mbblud already set max up with his deliberate crash now you talking bout this tsk tsk
Kevin Magnussen was seen doing a raindace right after he finished his pole position lap and right after that the session had to be stopped because it started raining. Coincidence? I don't think so.
big if true. waiting to hear Max's response on team radio...
Looking at this closely now, it certainly does seem like he's accelerating before even hitting the Apex, forcing a spin. Pretty suspicious to be honest.
He doesn’t even try to counter steer hmmm this does seem very suspicious now
That’s a hella good point 😳😳
That looks like when you want to initiate a drift, just that there is no space in this situation... really "strange"
Tended to agree first looking at this, but if you compare this to Leclerc’s pole lap they both hit the gas at pretty much the same time
@@MrLethalPanda look at the steering wheel most drivers reaction would be to counter steer, checo just let it go. Seems off now looking back
Soooo we’re all back with popcorn after Brazil eh 😂🍿
O _ o omg it really looks like he pressed the throttle way more than he should have.
He did that on purpose
The problem is he completed lifted afterwards, throwing all the weight to the front tires causing it to spin. It does look really suspicious when you watch it over
@@roghelio I don’t really care if it’s true or not, it’s just that the car accelerated way more than it should have in 2nd gear. Either it was wheelspin, engine malfunction or Perez’s mistake.
@@Dany_Fox1 also the track was partly wet
@@roghelio if that engine sound isnt highly sus to you i dont know what is. It sounds like he completely floors it at the apex
i see i am not the only one who came back to this video after brazil!
Waiting for the max fans to watch this after Brazil
I mean..this does look quite suspicious. He went full throttle while entering the corner. That's quite strange.
and then he wins
Ferrari MasterBlan
NO😂 then he started from 3rd
@@2ELI0 clownrrari
@@thuynguyenthingoc2461 well aged
I'd love to see the telemetry, almost as if Perez blips the throttle aggressively to lose the rear end. Again I don't know if its normal but it certainly sounds like a aggressive amount of blippage when he's trying to clip the apex of the corner.
Or blip in sound as result of loss of traction due to moisture/leaked fluids at apex?
Telemetry showed Chico was normally using 60% throttle at the apex. When he spun, it showed he used 100% well before.
@@randythuro474 ahh if that’s true then that makes sense
It's actually sounds the same in all corners in Monaco, sounds s bit odd cus the sounds it made when lost control
The telemetry has been published, and it is conclusive that Checo did this on purpose.
Doesnt matter if this was on purpose or not, Max already won the championship, letting Perez go by would mean Red Bull getting 1st and 2nd in the top 3 + show strength and give a massive moral boost for 2023. No reason for Max to behave like that.
it doesn't matter? you know he would get disqualified if he admitted it was on purpose you know that right?
Schumacher got disqualified for parking the car in rascasse so
It's somewhat understandable albeit very petty
you have your teammate purposly crashing shows what is to come next year when perez want to chellange max for number 1 position.
@@22masz he will never be good enough to challenge
So we have a "Checogate".......
What baffles me is the fact that this -deliberate spin- is a sufficient reason for some people to justify an already WDC to shave 2 points off his teammate even if there are multiple instances in which the 2nd RB driver helped the actual WDC that weigh off this particular odd spin. I did not use names just to objectively picture how fucking absurd it is.
Trust me, I was criticizing Max a lot today. But after seeing this, I can understand where his action came from. If you expect him to accept Checo's driving in Monaco quali as a return of favor, it's like Max willingly handing over Checo the WDC 2022, which they were competing for at this point. checo was nowhere near in the position of winning WDC 2021, when he supported Max
@@alexanderneumann894 There is more to it than Monaco alone, today was about team orders as well as securing a 1-2 Redbull driver standing. If for him this grudge was more important I guess soon we'll go back to 1 man strategies against Merc. I can see in no way the positives of this. And if the revenge is the name of the game then that's no team.
This was done ONLY to disadvantage Max though, that's the thing.
Why do you care? Why are you watching this video? Seems like you want to hate on Max rather than cheer on Checo.
Max is most likely aiming for the WR in points scored in season. Because WC is another goalpost for him.
Max still behaved like a child, but would explain his anger, because let’s face it, crashing a car just to stay ahead is a pretty shitty movement. but max should have moved on too. If he crashed on purpose, both had massive L’s
Looks intentional from Perez but why would he do that to start P3. It wasn't like he was on provisional pole
The rumour is that it was to stop Max from getting ahead of him since the GP before Monaco was Barcelona where Perez was angry due to the hefty team orders he got there.
Because it’s impossible to overtake here and at the moment he crashed, he was going to qualify ahead of Max…
I suspect not only VER was on a flying lap, with some still having the chance to pass Checo. That way, he made sure only the Ferraris stay in front and him having to pass only 2 cars to finish P1.
@@Adi-yi6qq understandable RB was forcing checo to again become a 2nd driver
@@alexanderneumann894 any other drivers were improving, just Max and he wasnt improving that much
Now that you know it was deliberate.. that throttle input in last corner was rather wayward
Seems so obvious now...
@@andreas1911maxhtec where did he admit this to? seen a lot of people saying it just curious myself. I'm guessing he didn't say it exactly its just speculation?
@@15freerun Verstappen said it and Sky sports as well. That’s why everyone is watching and responding to this clip now.
@@15freerun Rumor by Tom Coronel, dutch racer and friends with Verstappen family said Perez confessed at RB to Christian and Helmut.
@@TheLionsShow just seen it now. cheers man!
The sudden throttle plus the lack of immediate counter steering makes this EXTREMELY suspicious.
Yep
Woops my foot slipped to full throttle
You realise that is the sound of a wheel not having traction and spinning very fast which is what caused the crash right
@@arnarmagnusson8201 the wheel had no traction because he slammed the throttle down 🤣
@@dylan8372 no his telemetry showed he didn’t slam the throttle down. It’s just when a wheel loses traction it sounds like the car revs quickly, not because he is accelerating but because the wheel is moving fast because threes is no traction. Do I need to explain everything to people like you?
@@arnarmagnusson8201 stop talking shit, look at the comparison on telementary between the 2 laps, he slams the throttle for a second and makes no attempt at counter steering it
@@arnarmagnusson8201 how did the wheel lose traction? How does it lose traction every time? Too much torque demand for the grip available. I.e sudden throttle increase. Only needs to be a blip and you are doing half a donut.
Having done 40 odd laps already he knew exactly how much throttle he could get away with. This is the crash I would make on a sim by mashing the throttle with zero sensitivity due to me being a regular human.
1000 IQ MOVE
You knoe it does kinda look deliberate, look at the steering input after losing the car
The corner does seem a bit dodgy with the lack of countersteer but why would he did it when the redbulls were 3/4 and ferrari on pole? I know he went to win it but he couldnt guarantee Ferrari to mess things up. Dutch media says he amitted to Horner/Marko but surely that isnt true either
It was more to qualify ahead of Max, they were still battling for the lead of the championship at this point
dutch media will do anything to support their golden boy that can do no wrong
@@2355Kyle Jep, people oversee this fact. Around Monaco they were close on points and Checo still had a chance on the title. Qualifying is key in Monaco since overtaking is nearly impossible.
after knowing that this was deliberate, the way he aplies his throttle is really strange
yeah, and he barely tries to countersteer.
Throttle was fine. No countersteer was really weird.
@@PowellCat745 it was a strange throttle input. Normally they let it slowly comedown. Not like this
@@sjors050 Could have been a loss in grip, not countersteering is a huge red flag for me.
Do you really know this crash was deliberate? The only ones claiming this was intentional is max and the dutch media.
As I look closer, he did do a quick steering move and went on the throttle a little early... Hmm
I guess we'll never know what happened
We will. Car telemetry can tell everything. How much throttle, brake and all steering inputs are all recorded. Just a quick review needed.
@@SiarraD I guess ye, you compare that to the 100s of laps they do in testing, practice and other qualifying and IF, BIG IF, Checo did this, then ja, perhaps there is reason for beef.
Tried to make a proper spin then stall the engine, but miscalculated and hit the barriers relatively hard. And of course got then hit by the Ferrari.
Definitely a weird way to crash at least.
To be honest this is not easy to replicate esp rear gone in this and it's an error but doesn't look intentional how many times charles lost the rear and checo also mentioned the same as we see below
“I was, I think, quite close to my time, trying to make it up,” he said at the time.
“Turn 8 has been a difficult one for me throughout the qualifying session.
“So I was trying to anticipate and get quite early on throttle. But as soon as I touched the throttle, I could feel like the rear tyre was not gripping in.
“And I was playing with it a bit, until I lost it.”
he didnt touch the throttle, he full on stepped on it. And didnt even attemp to counter steer. A 12 year karting driver wouldn't make this 'mistake', let alone checo, who has one of the best throttle control on the grid
@Sharles Leglerg the throttle is one thing but the way the car rear slide that's not so easy to do it seems it's just spun
Also he did try to correct steering his immediate reflexes action but it went the other way... I highly doubt checo would crash it intentionally he is one of the best driver on the grid
And even let's say this was intentional or not max should not have to do what he did against sergio esp it was team orders and showed no respect while his teammate needed some crucial points to come 2nd
Your the expert 🤫
So we all came here after Max did that
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Heck that does look suspicious 😅😅
well, to be fair to max it is a strange crash.. you don't crash by spinning like that
No counter steer at all. Weird
Its an f1 car, that wont do jack shit in monaco
if the car lets go you're just along for a ride.
It looks like Checo didn't countersteer on his spinning phase than he does normally. So suspicious.
why would he countersteer if he was 2m away from the wall. Countersteer could have caused more damage. think
@@junk301 u may be correct, but he didn't try to limitation the damage
@@t.sax_calisthenics2588 he did.
He reduced the impact speed as much as possible...
why would Perez risk his gearbox for a P3 start?
@@junk301 You don't have time to think what if ??? When the back steps out the instinct is to catch it. Also if he did catch it he would have went into the wall parallel to it and distributed the force evenly along the length of the car, if he just let the rear left hit the wall at an angle the force would have been more localised.
@@junk301 drivers don't really think about the damage at that moment. The instinct is to countersteer as much as possible. Perez didn't do that
This ladies and gentleman is the monaco crashgate.
He didn’t even countersteer lol
He turns in a bit late and i hear that he stabs the throttle way earlier than his previous lap
Now that i look back at it, it looks pretty intentional indeed.
-Random Throttle Blip
-No countersteer
-Crash by losing rear end at a corner where virtually noone every loses the rear end?(like piquet jr in Singapore)
This feels extremely deliberate. But the motives are confusing since he was only in P3?
Regardless, Max won already and should have given him p6.
A very good comment sir, I agree with everything here. Its wierd that he presses the throtle like that but regarldes max didn't do the right thing yesterday.
@@spidermann1521 Great comment, but I disagree with the "regardless" part. Except for the fact that he simply fucked with the wrong marine. A true champion doesn't accept that, ever. I guess they're even now. Whenever tempted (again) in the future, Checo will think twice.
Honestly i thought i had lost all respect for Max, but when looking at this i can kinda understand why. I still think it’s overreacting to not give him the place back though.
This is the same kind of move that Schumacher would've done to a teammate that fucked him over in a previous race. Don't know why people are overreacting so much.
Max is holding a grudge for this☠️
Because max thinks it was on purpose. And if that's the case then I for sure would hold a grudge too.
@@maxhammerum7705 that's so small minded and immature lmao.
@@PHNTMPLAYA you dont become champion 2 years in a row by being cute and nice
After knowing it could be on purpose it seems quite odd ngl especially at that corner which is more like one of the easier and safer(no real danger of getting injured etc) turns of Monaco. It’s not a 100% proof here obviously but interesting to say the least
Hello Brazil GP friends
Didn't even try to counter steer
I feel there was moisture or leaked fluids at that corner for Checo to have spun off under throttle and for Sainz to have also spun off almost identically, even at slower speeds due to the yellow flag and flash of seeing a Red Bull across the circuit. The momentary blip in acceleration before the spin makes me think Checo was "deliberately" trying to improve his lap time by getting on the power earlier, but track conditions were not optimal to do so, but he did not "deliberately" crash (it doesn't feel like Checo's nature to do so, in my opinion).
Sainz didn't spun. He saw the crashed checo and tried to stop and hit him
If you look for abnormalities you're going to find any excuse to back your claim ie: he braked too early, he braked too late, he shifted the steering wheel, he rounded the corner too loose, he rounded the corner too tight, he accelerated too late, he accelerated too early, he looked right instead of left at the straight (joking, but you get the point). The truth is he knows if he crashes and needs to replace an RNC on the car that would cause a grid penalty he would have to take a gamble. I don't think anyone racing at this level is looking to gamble a grid penalty or potential car faults during the race day.
Watching this now, with the rumors of the brazil race, this really looks intentional. Not counter steering and the point where he accelerated for a short amount of time looks like when initiating a drift i.e. to spin on purpose.
"Im out ben sorry aAah"
Perez doesn’t even countersteer. COMME ON GUYS 🤣🤣 CrashGate 22 incoming.
Try to countersteer a going f1 car xD
new viewers....
@@zaarkeru3391 thats instinct and reflex. Everybody does it. Always. Its in the DNA of every racingdriver.
@@zaarkeru3391 lol how do you think F1 drivers constantly make corrections to their oversteer snaps of losing control? It’s called counter steering maybe learn some wheel before feeling like a genius.
O REILLIES, Auto parts,
EUGH
This was also big in another way… when the crane came and scooped up the RB, the underfloor was visible for the photographers…
Yeah guys we all know what happened in Brazil, but why tf are we here now??? F1 is turning into crime thriller or what. Drive to survive will gonna be wild...
"Checo crashes ON PURPOSE and gets hit by Sainz", FIFY
you have seen Rascasse 2006 gate, now prepare for Portier 2022 gate
Hmm idk...He isnt even trying to correct it
Not plausible in my opinion. He risked damaging his gearbox doing it where he did it while in Monaco, there are many places where you can just damage your front suspension on purpose without risking anything and still cause the red flag. I'm not convinced, but what do I know?!
Yeah, but all The commentors specialists of CZcams think they know Better about throttle and countersteering...kkk
I'm new f1 fan, and I want to ask something
Is this possible to damage gearbox after spin like this? It looks not dangerous at all
@@georgehyperventilation there is but speed was really slow so it's a little less risky
Can't believe I didn't notice how clearly deliberate this was before today.
im out man, sorry...... uEgH
I just wanna know what his CZcams search history was in the days leading up…was he watching Monaco 2006 or Monaco 2006 and Singapore 2009? 😏
Some people actually believe that this was done on purpose. And no, they are not being ironic
It seens he did it on pourpose but they where behind Ferrari in qualy, it was front row lock out, nothing that he can possibily gain doing that
Now that I look at it, indeed he crashed on purpose, that's a sh*tty move to do to sabotage other drivers' qualifying on purpose, what is going on at Redbull wtf
I mean, if you ever look at RB history and behind the scenes, that area and the attitude is unhealthy as fuck. Christian is like the main, it was in Vettel, it was in Riccardo and it is in max era. It's just bad enviroment.
@@contiplays my guess is RB was still not helping checo to fight for championship this year like giving him team orders in previous GP to let max pass. Which forced checo to do something like this.
"I am out then. Sorry"
What a shame that he somehow felt he had to do this; the same dick move as Schumacher, but against his own team.
I lost pretty much all respect for him since Max's meltdown in Brazil pointed us all in this direction.
Things are not going to end well for Checo at Red Bull.
What a proper shame.
Yup. You can clearly hear how he goes full throttle slightly before the apex. That's not just a rookie mistake. That's Checo trying to fuck Max
Max still won the championship anyway so I don't think there is any reason why he has to be angry at him for crashing like that in Monaco.
@@joemercedeschannel196 You still go to jail for attempted murder. The results don't matter.
@@STREETCRAFTSwhy did he do it tho
cry about it
I see that everyone is here trying to see if it was on purpose lmao
yep, Max is right, does not look like a normal crash. A bit like Schumi 2006 or Piquet Jr 2008...
throttle application does go brrrrrr and counter steering not found but ... all that to start from p3? hmm
I suspect not only VER was on a flying lap, with some still having the chance to pass Checo. That way, he made sure only the Ferraris stay in front and him having to pass only 2 cars to finish P1.
At this point in the championship it was close between Max and Checo.
This is one of the hardest corners in F1..... stupid to say he did this one purpose...
He admitted it tho brother…
I never crash like this when I’m driving my F1 car out in the street in real life. Glad to see so many other F1 car owners here in the comments
The sensation of wanting to sneeze made Checo crash here I think!
Lack of opposite lock speaks volumes. Awks.
Mistake or not. Max has been helped several times by Checo, seems like he forgot Abu Dhabi 2021.
True but doing this on purpose is just so wrong...
@@seb9940 didn't Nico Rosberg and Michael Schumacher do the same thing?
@@nikothehulk463 yes but it still doesn’t make it right?
@@Max15MV no was just asking
perez was fighting for his own seat, not for verstappen wdc, they are f1 driver’s they don’t care about each other
Everyone here from Brazil 2022 should go look at Russell’s “crash” at quali this weekend. Set him up nicely for Sprint race since Haas is not competitive with mercs
Yes and Magnussen was seen doing a raindace right after he finished his pole position lap.
F1 needs to change the rules on this, now. It can't keep happening - just delete the fastest time (or times?) of any driver who causes a red flag in quali
@@JT29501 it has been going on for decades
Lol CZcams algorithm is not a joke.
+5 grid penalty for causing a red flag or best time deleted should be implemented
Definetly on purpose. He positioned a car in a way not to crash when he applies throttle.
So here we are
No counter steer from Perez at all.
Makes you think 🤔🤔🤔
Came to back to watch this lol
He went long and tried to use gas to oversteer and not miss the apex by far
People thinking its intentional, where were you 5 months ago?
Max Verstappen brought me here
Everyone on this clip now 😂😂😅🤣😃😸
Everybody says now, "it's looks intentional"... ha ha, what a kind of knowledgeable people
Would you care to educate us idiots and explain how this doesn't look a bit suspicious?
@@sergeantsupreme4395 because the idiots needed six months and the complaint of a crybaby. otherwise they would not have remembered or even noticed
All most of us are saying is, that much throttle input, at that point in the corner, is very unnatural. This is the type of mistake rookies don't often make.
Look at the telemetry or the comparisons to his previous lap at that corner. Or even other drivers. This is so different it’s not funny
@@Holche complaint of a crybaby? Lewis didn’t say anything…
Sorry, I’m new and still learning about F1… how did this crash affect Max or why are people coming back to this after what happened in Brazil?
It prevented max from getting pole position and checo would be starting ahead of max bc of that
it causing a RED FLAG and instant cancel everyone out lap ... and that's when max got better sector at monaco
Monaco is how it started, Brazilian how it is going and we will meet us again next season. Probably they will end than Checos contract and he will have his revenge. #elplan Mexico edition.
Max was Lucky that he Stopped in Front of the Crash
*mashes throttle way too early* "I'm out man 😏😏"
"mashes"
Where is the electric motor sound then?
no, he simply spun.
Why would he risk his gearbox?
@@zaarkeru3391 because gearboxes are i a pool now like engines so he would still be third.
@@MajieB
no?...
if he switch engine or gearbox he loses grid positions.
and a damaged gearbox can fail during the race.
which again is a massive risk.
there was no point putting the car at such risks for P3/4 start
So.. what we thinking!? Intentional or not?
So now its suddenly deliberate
I now understand Max's decision today. You can tell by listening to the throttle application and steering out of the hairpin compared to how he just smashed the throttle and his steering that it was intentional.
Why does that make you to unterstand Max today?
@@nikolas6196 Sergio screwing max out of a fast lap in quali and today max wouldn't let Sergio pass him .......🤔 Is there something difficult to understand there ?
@@morganmartin9286 even if what Perez did was deliberate it doesn’t undo all the good he’s done for max he still defended from Hamilton countless times to help max as well as giving him the position and obeying team orders all year round. This one monaco incident shouldn’t make max discard everything else
@@jackhiggins864 yes it should. Deliberately crashing so your teammate can't go faster in qualy is no big deal !? Lol
@@jackhiggins864 Trust me, I was criticizing Max a lot today. But after seeing this, I can understand where his action came from. If you expect him to accept Checo's driving in Monaco quali as a return of favor, it's like Max willingly handing over Checo the WDC 2022, which they were competing for at this point. checo was nowhere near in the position of winning WDC 2021, when he supported Max
Imagine how crazy people are to think this was premeditated . It's just sad. Max's attitude is sad, a 2-time world champion with no spine. He`s still young, maybe he'll learn respect, although I doubt it.
So what’s worse crashing on purpose to stay ahead of your teammate who is the championship favourite and in the middle of a championship fight. Or not handing over a P6 which would get Perez an extra 2 points for 2nd place in the championship which has never been important until now apparently.
Listen to his throttle input, watch how he makes zero effort to counter steer, and conveniently crashes at one of the slowest corners to reduce damage. If Verstappen did this surely he would be worse human of all time in everyone’s eyes right?
2nd placement in championship is a joke.
@@stevenst6337
You know that when the tires goes the wheelspeed and engine speed will spike...
Why would Perez risk his gearbox for a shitty not even p1 start at monaco?....
Max fans really are toxic sludge
@@stevenst6337 because MAX has history of being an ass hole meanwhile this is the first time checo did something this drastic
Definitely not the latter. He earned that 6th position by racing and beating Perez. So he did nothign wrong. Perez doesn't deserve P2 whether he crashed deliberatly in Monaco or not. LeClerc is better.