Why Darth Maul was Deeply Ashamed of the Way Qui-Gon Died - IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS
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I would have loved to have seen Darth Maul in Episodes 7-9. George Lucas wrote eight different scripts post ROTJ. One of them consisted of Maul rebuilding the Sith. And Luke likewise rebuilding The New Jedi Order. And in doing so, both clash. Darth Talon would have been introduced also. Aswell as Ben Skywalker and the Solo twins. But unfortunately, we got the abysmal Disney trilogy. Plus, after the trilogy, it was muted that Luke (and Obi-Wan) would redeem Maul. But unfortunately we will never see this.
❤ me too man me too
Honestly
Maul should've been kept alive throughout the majority of the Prequel trilogy just to have an overarching antagonist that's not Palpatine cause what we got we already knew Palpatine was Sidious
They should've kept that reveal until midway through Episode 3 after what Anakin did something in front of Palpatine
And they threw those in trash
That's like a million times better ...screw the mouse!!!!
@gustavedelior3683 Technically mine is miles better
Qui-Gon's thoughts: I don't know what he wants but I know my skills make me a nightmare for people like him
That passage of Maul's thoughts through the first duel were a thing of beauty. So much detail, in actions that took seconds.
Yeah seriously. One of my favorite vids in a while.
Qui Gon uses the healthy desire of protecting others that is why he fights so hard. It is the Way of Jedi to do their best to protect others.
"One of Qui-Gon Jin's primary motives, was to prove that he was better than the Jedi" 😂
He kinda succeeded in proving that point without the arrogance, Qui-gon did prove himself to be a better jedi because he rejected the politics' influence on the jedi order, even when it meant going against the jedi code itself. He believed that being a better jedi meant following the will of the force above all else. As a result, he was the first of only three jedi in that entire jedi order to be trained to manifest consciousness after death. He was even the one to train Yoda and later Obi-wan. He did prove himself to be the best jedi's jedi, not to prove a point, but to simply be who, what, and where the force needed him to be to ensure the galaxy is better for it. None in the jedi order lived up to that, instead they died stuck in the past, in stagnation, and in dogmatic tradition, which included being in bed with all things Republic politics.
@@Loku242
U heard it too… 😂
Even enemies deserve respect if you look down and underestimate them they have the advantage to surprise you
"I am your enemy, the first one you've ever had who was smarter than you. There is no teacher but the enemy. No one but the enemy will tell you what the enemy is going to do. No one but the enemy will ever teach you how to destroy and conquer. Only the enemy shows you where you are weak. Only the enemy tells you where he is strong. And the rules of the game are what you can do to him and what you can stop him from doing to you. I am your enemy from now on. From now on I am your teacher.” --Mazer Rackham.
Because such enemies, if you are unfortunate enough to acquire such, and cannot find peace with honor, are implacable. Best to find common ground and stand down. To do this, one must let go of emotion.
Some enemies certainly don't deserve respect. The SS deserved nothing even close to respect.
There's a teaching in the old samurai way clear your mind do not take a moment to think or your opponent will use that moment of thought to end you
Why did Qui-Gon rush headlong into the reactor room to fight Maul solo anyway? I'm sure he would have been aware of himself tiring, and that he would also have been at a disadvantage using Ataru in that tight space. And since the novel said he felt no hatred for Maul, then he also wasn't controlled by bloodlust at that point.
My guess would be that he felt Kenobi's fear as well and was attempting to protect him. He was obviously aware that Maul outclassed his padawan.
Man had a job to do. Like Gurney Hallack of Dune said: “What has mood to do with it? You fight when the necessity arises-no matter the mood! Mood's a thing for cattle or making love or playing the baliset. It's not for fighting.” The Sith will easily cloud the minds of non adepts. Coercion, a great evil. Consider Padme, as an example. Should he leave Maul to his own devices? Such a skilled combatant?, With such strength? No way.
There's three mistakes Kenobi makes earlier in the duel that would have killed him, and Qui gon has to cover for him. So I think he thought he could fight fully if he was separated from Kenobi, along with feeling his fear and wanting to protect him.
Bc Liam Neeson would only do one movie
Because for plot reasons. Thats the point of "Duel of the Fates". If Qui Gon didn't die then Anakin would not have fallen. When you start a series like Star Wars in the middle like Lucas did with New Hope, it meant that everything that happened before was set in stone. You cannot have the events of the OG movies without Obi Wan being Anakin's mentor. Obi Wan even says that the circumstances of Anakin coming to him were complicated in Episode 6 iirc (when Luke went back to Yoda and questioned him and Ben about Anakin).
3 points to follow : Little did Maul know this would be the last time he'll ever face jedi with the purpose of serving the Sith
Little did Maul know he'd rot on Lotho Minor for 13 years and lose his sanity
Little did Maul know he'd lose absolutely EVERYTHING following this duel.
And for a minute he truly thought it was his greatest victory but like you said, it's truly the beginning of his hard downfall
He should have stayed dead
The novels depict a Maul way more complex than I thought
Half... he lost half of everything...
I’d say he lost everything I saw palpatine killed his mom and brother
So I’ve been mauling this over for a while and can’t settle on a definitive answer.
The Force actively (talks to) “directs” Qui-Gin, albeit, in obscure ways. We can determine this from the novels.
Example 😂: Qui straight up blitzed & murdered unaware enemies, because he felt the Force needed him to (to either create Balance, or, possibly to stop said being from doing something evil. Lol he never knew, but didn’t question the whim either).
So! *Anyone else convinced that he knew he was going to die?* In the end, there was no fear, he simply told Obi-Wan to train Anakin.
There's some something somewhere when talking about the whims (when he was learning to become a force ghost), pretty sure he knew he would die if he went to naboo, and had to go anyway
@@PJOZeus Whims?? Do you mean the Whills?
This more in-depth analysis video going over Maul's full thoughts was great! I like Maul more as a character knowing that he could set aside his arrogance and respect a Jedi Master like Qui Gon for his sheer skill.
They killed Qui-Gon off way to early in my opinion.
Exactly!!
Dont worry, he had a long career with the cia afterwards.
Darth Mual is the only or one of a few to beat Liam Neeson
I was just thinking this on a rewatch this week 👍
That was the point. A Qui-Gon who gets to train Anakin completely changes the timeline. Hence "Duel of the Fates"
I say all this w QGJ as my favorite Star Wars character 😂
How Stupendous Wave makes these concepts up as he goes along.
Keep it up troops!
Love these longer in depth videos
This is one of the best pieces of Star Wars content overall. Great work.
Obi Wan as well as Anakin are cool, they both show that depending on your character either the calmness or the anger strengths you
Disagree, this duel shows that discipline and determination to protect others is a power that hatred and anger fear.
Awesome breakdown , really enjoyed this . Keep up the good work 👌🏼
Awesome video! This was a perfect topic!
I love these breakdowns. Thanks.
Excellent, as always.
This was the first time I heard Maul's point of view, will have to track down that source.
Thank you.
Excellent video
I really like how long this one is. More of these :)
Incredibly insightful 👌🏻
I absolutely love your videos and how deep and clear you are with the lore and history but I just feel like the endings to the video are very very abrupt, quick, and blunt but very good job and please keep up the work😂👍👍👍
this view of the jedi as the saviors that never showed up would have made Maul a superior antagonist than Dooku, in every way Anakin is the luck brat that got spoon fed everything Maul wanted. Anakin was even the apprentice that Sedious truly wanted, where Maul was just an assasin and a tool. Maul could have used this connection to much more effectively bring out Anakin's hatred, being more relateable so their connection through the force would be stronger through a sense of kinship for the darkness in both of their hearts. Maul would have also been e better rallying symbol for the outer rim and separatist worlds because of this. a Jedi seasing to be the senate's lap dog is one thing but someone who's lived through suffereng they lived through, were going through, or that they feared could come an any moment is much more compelling. him showing Anakin the path he could have been forced to walk but also the power that suffering provided would also fit natively with these 2.
this would have also made Obiwan's views of Maul more complicated, as he would eventually sense this kinship and that the boy his master wanted him to train was slipping away at times through something he laments that he will never truly understand.
We need a maul series
If Qui-gon Jinn and Darth Maul's physical strength are equal that means the strikes will cancel out, yet Quigon is basically using a sword against a versitile staff.
Qui-gon's strikes are very well coordinated and graceful yet his muscle strength is similar.
In realswordsmanship a longsword can block a greatsword for even a guy who is 173 cm can block a muscular dude using a greatsword; it's the good and balanced structure that makes a solid bracing.
So Qui-gon Jinn swung the blade almost hitting maul, yet maul was injured beforehand?
Fantastic
Maul didn’t kick Obi-Wan into the reactor shaft.
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Qui-Gon saw something through the Force.He got tired but he was power house. He was perfect duelist.But this is perfect teaching. When you have opportunity use it. Obi-Wan was much weaker than Maul. He was unexperienced,younger.Maul's arrogance defeated him. Obi-Wan needed to be calm to defeat Maul. And he did this. Perfectly. Obi-Wan did this on Mustafar. Perfect state of mind. This was huge compliment of Maul. I understand Maul changing point of view. May the Force be with you too
It’s interesting that Maul regrets playing tricks on Qui-Gon, yet tried the exact same move against Obi-Wan in their final duel on Tatooine. Obi-Wan suckered Maul into using the same move by shifting to Ataru and then sliced Maul right down the middle in a duel that lasted three blade strokes. I guess Maul’s hatred of Obi-Wan prevented any similar sort of respect for the padawan turned Jedi Master.
Mauls journal is worded like how doug from UP sounds
I am sure I also read that the entire area had been flooded with dark side energy prior to the duel. Without that Qui-Gon would have defeated Maul and fate would have been different.
5:06, because of my wound, when was maul wounded before fighting Obi Wan?
Im asking the same thing
Sand in his eye.😂
I would say either a previous fight w a jedi or seidious hurt him during training
4:40 "The cowardly boy runs off" LMAOOOO Darth Maul is savage. Nobody likes Jake Lloyd but calling him a coward for running away (unarmed of course) from a lightsaber duel between a Jedi and a Sith is hilarious
This was eye opening and so descriptive like listening to a book and so well written and incredible that maul was so philosophical even though a cold hearted killer! 😮
They need to come out with a series going into Qui-gon's story more
It's always interesting
I thought Maul as 20 years into training when he beat Qui-Gon. Sheev found him as a child and raised him after all.
Really good, I should read these books. That last bit about how Obi-wan learned from Qui-gon how to center himself and to detach his emotions from the moment, is why ultimately, I can't like Obi-wan. He was a terrible teacher in the end. A good Jedi, but he had one of the best teachers of that era, a direct lineage of tutelage from Yoda, but he was unable to deliver that knowledge and wisdom in a form palatable to the young Skywalker. I don't blame him for the creation of Vader, but Qui-gon was the better teacher.
He thought so much in such a short time!
Ironically enough, the killing hit from Obi-Wan was highly against the rules of the Jedi Counsel. Cutting somebody in half would cauterize the body as it's cut in half; leading to a slow and painful death.
Apparently the blade of lightsabers are supposed the be hotter than the sun. So a single stab was deadly because it cooked your insides.
5000⁰ isn't THAT hot. It would sear any wound to prevent bleeding. BLEEDING is what stops your organs and kills you. No blood means no Oxygen.. No Oxygen means your cells and organs die
Well Obi-Wan did give into the Dark Side albeit briefly in his "killing" of Darth Maul.
A stab leaves you open for counterattacks, people don't just instadie after a lethal blow.
That moment in Episode 1 where Qui-Gon disengages from combat and meditates while Obi-Wan is shown to be sweating, and uneasy was perfect. As soon as the beams turned back off, his eyes immediately opened, and he was back on the attack again. It showed the miles and miles of difference in a Jedi Padawan (not even a Jedi Knight yet), and a long time Jedi Master. To be able to remain centered while facing a Sith Lord in the first confrontation in 1000 years shows what it really means to be a fully complete Jedi Master. Qui-Gon wasn't even afraid of the possibility of dying. The Force was truly his ally. He fought with no hatred, or malice. It was all business for the protection of a galaxy which was known to be better off without the Sith.
Honestly, Maul could have taken on an even greater master and still won (assuming his pride and arrogance didnt get in the way like it did on Naboo). But Qui-Gon wasnt an ordinary Jedi Master, he was an Ataru specialist and was no stranger to duels as his own master was a master duelist, despite the era.
Qui-Gon was considered a "maverick" in the Jedi Order and definitely gave Maul a run for his money. That and the dual went on way too long, so i say its no wonder he took him out with a cheap shot.
Darth Maul was a far younger and more athletic duelist. Zabraks also have greater strength, resistance to pain and a redundant heart & circulatory system.
Qui-Gon’s greater skill and Maul’s overconfidence were the determining factors that led to the stalemate on Tattooine.
I love how beautifully they end the maul obi-wan conflict. It is a short scene with so much story built into it!
He did not find the #AlmightyLoonie in Qui Gon Jinn's possession... 🌎💘💰
Qui-Gon earned Maul’s respect by never asking for it and adhering to his principles.
Did he not use the force to push Kenobi into the reactor shaft, and not a kick, as was said in this video?
It would be cool if they had flashbacks in Attack of the Clones of Obi Wan Kenobi training Aniakin Skywalker at each age, I might be wrong but I think Aniakin was 9 or 10 during the Phantom Menace so seeing Aniakin growing up to where we see him and Obi Wan in the beginning of Attack of the Clones would be super cool, I say all of this cuz No.1 again it would be really cool and No.2 I feel like this should be important to Star Wars Lore or something similar cuz all we get to see in Attack of the Clones is Aniakin at the late/ending stage of being a Padawan..
Maul is so under rated
Qui Gon dies from a stab to the gut, but Maul survived being cut in half. Great writing.
Both survived really qui gin through the force maul through hate
The opposite of hate is not love but apathy.mall is a obstacle to gen nothing more nothing less.this is how real men fight not for pride or spectacles or anything else but for victory and to uphold what is right.do not hate your enemies see them as a danger but nothing more and show them how little they really matter. 11:26
QUI GON GOT ICE IN HIS VEIGNS!🥶🥶🥶
Maul was unstable while still an infant on Dathomir. It didn't help when Mother Talzin dropped him off to a Sith Lord.
When Maul dueled Qui-Gon he knew he wasn't a full Sith. He was hoping to one day earn enough respect to be given the opportunity to be the main apprentice to Palpatine, once he killed off his master. Maul suspected there were other apprentices, so it wouldn't be an automatic promotion. Defeating a Jedi Master would go a long way towards Sidious making him a true Sith.
12:31 What about Yaddle?
Imagine being stuck behind rotating shield doors when you have a light saber than can cut the mechanisms projecting the doors apart easily. 😂
Which might have caused an explosion that severely injured whoever did that due to proximity
Google "Chesterson's Fence"
Maul didn’t quickly fall to the floor, Kenobi kicked him.
Maul was a badass and wouldve wiped the floor with almost any Jedi out there except for possibly Obi-Wan, Yoda and anakin in his prime. Dude was an absolute nightmare of a duel opponent.
It says so much that maul the arrogant assassin who believed he could kill any Jedi acknowledged he was not skilled enough to beat qui gon in a blade to blade duel which for someone like him who values elegance form and power above all else this is a huge moment of humility even if maul is the only one who knows it and shows why qui gon was one of the best Jedi of all time whether it be Disney or legends whether it be with the force or the blade
In Legends in terms of weapon mastery Maul was a low eight level duelist tied with Plo Koon with Qui Gon being a high seven duelist and Dooku/Mace being Mid eight duelists and Yoda being a high eight level duelist around TPM Era so only Jedi that could of beat Maul on even ground with a lightsaber and no cheap shots where Yoda, Dooku, And Mace while Plo Koon would of been Mauls equal with the blade and Qui Gon inferior yeah.
Legends is irrelevant. A teenage Ahsoka beat Maul ffs.
@matthemann8969 It's going to be very difficult for anyone to take your arguments, here or elsewhere, seriously when you cannot communicate effectively or remain consistent. "In Legends, in terms of weapon mastery, Maul was a low eighth level duelist..." (punctuation, spelling). "Could have" not "Could of" (could of sounds like could've, the contraction of could have, but doesn't actually mean anything). Would have, not would of. Is the higher level of skill *eighth* or *seventh*? What is the difference between high eighth, mid eighth, low eighth, and high seventh levels of skill? As for your source, legends isn't canon, but can occasionally be useful for context and scaling- however, stats does not equal good writing and Star Wars is like poetry- it rhymes. Qui Gon was going to be slain by a Sith in service of the hero's journey just as Obi-Wan one day would. Don't take my criticism as a personal attack or needless grammar nazism- I simply pity someone that cannot write. Communication is an incredibly important skill, just as much in our modern age of exploitation as it was twenty thousand years ago when your ancestors were killing wild beasts with rocks so that they could eat that week. Half of your paragraph is meaningless due to lack of context, and I haven't even mentioned how factually incorrect your conclusion is- and that part relies on the half that is inconsistent with no context! I don't want to assume you're a sixth grader that doesn't pay attention in English, but you write like a sixth grader that doesn't pay attention in English. If you are simply underpriviledged or English is your second+ language, then as someone who only starves sometimes and lives in the richest country on earth- my bad. Otherwise I highly recommend some tutoring and educating yourself on what a relevant source is.
@@lordbalthosadinferni4384 Dudeeee. Saying you are not performing needles grammar nazism when you just threw the biggest and the most smug grammar nazi rant I have ever seen...
@@tnnetnattninuttn4627 Rereading my comment, yeah I can see how I'd come off that way. Do you have any recommendations on how I could've cut this down and still made the point that OP's comment is an indecipherable mess, while providing pointers, without sounding like such a snob? I didn't intend to sound smug- I was and am *very* confused as to what anything OP said is supposed to mean, and would genuinely like to help. Your comment isn't grammatically perfect but it *is* entirely understandable. Everyone should be given the tools to express themselves in a way that is, at bare minimum, understandable- and that's all I really meant to do.
@@lordbalthosadinferni4384I read it fine, maybe your comprehension skills are lacking?
Yeah he seemed real ashamed as he toyed with Obi-Wan. That must’ve been the last thing on his mind.
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Qui Gon would have been a father figure for anakin if he trained him while Obi Wan was more a brother so im sure Ani would have turned out alot different if Qui Gon lived
What wound/injury qas maul takking about? Rhey should do an kelvin timeline kinda thing where Qui Gon Survives and so does Maul and then go from there ,trek and xmen have so many alternatives and crazy timelines n most of them dont interfreee with with rhe main story or retcons anything. Quigon Trains anakain,Maul kills shmi,dooku still turns but faces quigon, Dooku beyreys sidious n doesn't kill venteess n become rivals ....
If they hadn’t killed off qui gon so soon, chances are they would have managed to mess up his character and find a way to make us not like him as much. Perhaps*
It's a damn shame that none of this rich background is explained in the prequels. On the screen it looks like Maul pretty much had his way with Qui-Gon without any real challenge.
A good lesson for all us Dark Side users.
Isn't this your 4th or 5th video on this?
Day 412 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Obi-Wan should be ashamed as well because it turns out all he had to do was apply a little bit of the force to qui-gon's belly and he would have survived from what I've seen in Disney's version of the story. 🙄
Qui-Gon was ultimately not as good as Obi, Obi beat both Maul and Vader/Anakin TWICE EACH, he was true Jedi.
Qui-Gon is the perfect maverick and unpredictable grey jedi, serving and following the will of the force and no surprise that he would surprise Maul in respect of the challenge as a saber opponent that he will face in his life and ends up having to beat him with a cheap trick and surprise, that seems dishonourable to a warrior like him as he cannot outlast him in a stand-up duel..
He's not a Grey Jedi. Qui Gonn was fully in tuned with the Light. Just like Ahsoka currently, full Light Side adherents, who were fully aware of the fact the Jedi were corrupted by stagnation.
@@YoungHarlem110352 I agree to disagree here. As although they are certainly very in tune and in touch with the living force and light as a whole They do what they think is right and not following the commands of the council, which was being wise in face of the order's stagnation, still makes them rogue and operating beyond the orders constraints and support. Making them grey jedi.
@@wedgeantillies66 ahhh, the Legends version of Grey Jedi. The slur version of the word.
I agree with you there.
@@YoungHarlem110352 Thanks as I grew up with legends verse. Was going for that as a definition of the term, rather than what the new disney cannon has it down as being..
BTW
for all the sh the prequels get,
Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor played the role of a jedis PERFECTLY from a lore perspective
Palpatine needed Maul to be destroyed because he would have destroyed the emperor and his plans had he remained his apprentice
Imagine being Sith and feeling shame
Damn I thought he was weak that’s messed up
Darth maul didn't have Time to think about anything. He was cut in half, bleed to death and fell down a deep pit. He was long dead and his body had long decayed before the sisters found him. I reject felonies misinformation he could be and was brought back to life.
Wen maul comes in as qui gon and the group are trying to leave Its almost like maul rushed it he want more than nothing to prove him self on nabob he held his ground not the high one tho his style duel blade he used his game and Anakin suffers sidus should have trained him as a sith assassin than apprentice zabrack male culture is raw almost like animatic passion from young the are marked with achievements maul was taken by Sidius as plot he wanted mother townsend original but instead took her son paltptine always had a palm and maul was just to raw the comics the man had a bad deal but he was one who sensed and tried but Ashoka was sent to mandalore what if qui gon got to train maul
Nice.
Maul was terribly arrogant in his physical skills, and when given a formidable challenge it just drove him harder.
Makes you wish we lived in an alternate world where we get the continuation of George Lucas’s Star Wars, in stead of the reality we got with Disney!!!
So much lore for such a minor character, it’s a shame that fans obviously loved this villain from the get-go while he was given no backstory or fleshed out at all prior to being killed. The prequels f*cked up so badly
You know he was the intended sequel villian right?
@@rgmontoya3398 I’m sure they intended to make the movies good, but they didn’t
OBie Tricked maul.
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Me x
Ashamed, really?, he just took on two Jedi and almost came out on top...
Darth Edgelord
Maul could’ve been a very powerful sith.
so basically its all kenobis fault. qui gon loosing, anakin becoming vader. order 66. blame it on kenobi 😑
Wooooo.
I can answer this, qui-gon died to a simple stab. So weak, smh, everybody else can survive such a simple stab :pppp
Darth Maul was better than them, Qui Gon..slower and was taken out easily when one on one with Maul. Maul was better than Obi Wan but..showed a flaw with the darkside, when met with calm and a lack of hate there was no darkside conduit to further initiate an attack and left him open to get cut in half..it was the force in the end.
To be fair on there Tatooine duel Qui Gon ran low on Stamina because before the fight started he was running for a long while while one of Mauls legs were injured but Maul had more stamina on his side since he came in on a flying speeder moped while Qui Gon along with Anakin running with there feet yeah.
now that i think of it did sidious kill any jedi before windu?
Literally killed 3 members before he got to Windu in the same fight lol. But otherwise no, I don’t believe so. His whole Alt was to be the chancellor.
Man you running out of video ideas huh? Lol
Oh yeah he's the superior combatant to Obi-Wan Kenobi LOL even though Obi-Wan chopped him in half and killed him LOL😅
Someone winning the fight in the end doesn’t mean they are superior in combat. There’s been countless underdog wins in every sport. Maul had Obi Wan beat and let his arrogance beat him in the end. Obi wan was holding on for dear life about to fall to his death and Maul could’ve easily ended him but didn’t
@@Christian-qd9sv yeah bro calm down lol it was a joke considering the fact that none of this is real. Do you even know anything about real combat. I doubt it 😆
@@user-vl2vm8ev6w “Do you even know anything about real combat”. The way you asked the question you can tell you’re at most 14 years old.
@@Christian-qd9sv yeah I have fought as an infantry soldier in Afghanistan on several tours and i have fought boxing and mma for most of my life. Again do you know anything about combat, no you don't do you LOL go back to watching your Star Wars kid 😆
You'd think that maybe.. and just maybe after Exar Kun someone would idk learn how to fight against the double sabre/sabre staff but hey let's just wing it 😂
Maul took qui gon being determined to win but not full of hate as disrespectful and wrong but you can want to win and have no hard feelings for the other person
Personally, I would have loved to see Yoda VS Darth Maul...one can dream.
Imagine if maul faught windu maul would have been destroyed