A Hoarder Lived with Her Son's Corpse for 20 Years, Without Realizing It
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- Today we’re talking about a woman who unknowingly lived with her son’s dead body for years before he was discovered, and a man who was found mummified inside a hoarder’s home. Let’s get into it.
Disclaimer:
Much like any mental disorder, hoarding carries a certain stigma with it that can make life more difficult for those who suffer from it.
We’re not here to lay judgement on anyone, we’re just looking to explore a topic from an unbiased position.
If you have any concerns about your mental health, please speak to a psychiatrist so that you can determine what kind of support you need.
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[The Blind Woman Who Was Living With Her Son’s Corpse]
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[Mummified Man Found Hidden in Hoarder’s Home]
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Being blind in such an unorganized home would be horrible.
Well, I mean, at least you don't see the mess
Being blind in a clean home couldn't be too easy.
Sadly not the first case. Also in NY there were a pair of brothers in Harlem. I think it was the 40s or 30s someone did a welfare check on them. hoarders to an extreme. One brother hand been crushed by a pile of junk. the other brother was blind and crippled left in a chair near by. Sadly they both died there just feet from each other unable to call for help.
@@aubreymorgan9763 Oh, oh! I read about that in the Stuff book! It's so cool!!! Not that they're hoarders, the book I mean (◍•ᴗ•◍)
@@aubreymorgan9763 😢
And people thought *I* was weird having skeletons
Hold up ⬆️
@@mrbropo8801 Don't worry it's a dog
And people thought I was weird for having a skeleton.
And people thought I was weird having children in my basement.
@@tictaczach914 and I thought I was weird because of
It's insane that the guy went missing for 20 years and no one thought "hey let's look in the house"
no.
no one was looking to begin with
Not even that, just anything in his room entirely, he was just laying on the bed out in the open and nobody thought to even go in his room at all for two decades.
Right! Or his bedroom
Sadly, some people are not cared about by anyone. "Quiet deaths" happen way too often.
How do you even look in the house to begin with?
This is absolutely depressing imagine being the mother feeling like her son did not want to talk to her and than 20 years later their son is just found there
rotting food or rotting human corpse🤣
@@raven4k998 This situation isn't funny.
@@silas537 Shush.🤫
Imagine being a blind mom thinking your son ghosted you and moved out only to find out he's been dead in your house the whole time....Yikes
its crazy eh
That's f*cking sad
Poor lady.
@@S3verusMyG Literally, it seems...
Imagine being a son that is so neglected that no one in your family notices nor cares about your death for 20 years.
"I thought I was alone"
Well yes but actually no.
Good guess but actually no
Technically, yes.
I'm clearly right behind you
@@Cffeexe why hello there
High quality, funny, original meme.
I'm starting to wonder if I have an actual hoarding problem. I wish there was more discussion about the early stages of hoarding. Nobody just becomes one of these full-blown hoarders overnight
If you can do a good clean out, get rid of things and not dwell on the stuff you gave away or threw away than you are not a hoarder. Hoarders dwell on each individual thing they hoard. It is painful for them to get rid of any of the things they are attached to.
@@marcwright4790 I mean all things are a spectrum. It’s never just one way
As someone with hoarding tendencies who grew up with hoarding relatives, these are some common signs:
-running out of storage space despite ample space/locations.
-piles of clutter that limit the functionality of the space. Sometimes it starts as confined to one area, like a “guest” room that isn’t usable or is difficult to use, or kitchen countertops that are too full to prepare a meal.
-Rationalizing keeping things. Common phrases: I may need it one day, I can use that for something, I don’t want to waste it, it is still useful, I have a plan for that but there’s something keeping me from doing it now, it was a bargain/on sale, etc.
-Becoming distressed or upset when trying to get rid of things others can let go of easily: clothes, old food, newspapers/magazines, scraps of materials, unused items, etc.
-becoming distressed when others try to help you clean, and becoming defensive.
-Big one: intrusive thoughts about stuff, paired with anxiety or dread with those thoughts. Deciding to throw something out, then having thoughts like: “what if I need it? Is it really trash? I’m being so wasteful. I can do something with that. Etc” or intrusive thoughts about accumulating: “If I leave it, I may not be able to get one later. What if I can’t get it later and I need it? The store will run out. If I pass up a good deal I’ll pay more and waste money buying it later.”
-There are compulsive aspects to the behavior. You don’t want clutter, you know you don’t need it, but in the moment the feeling of the need to keep is all encompassing. It returns each time you try to eliminate items, with stress and anxiety. When you keep, it goes away. When you eliminate, it lingers and sometimes worsens. The key is learning to sit with that feeling, and accepting it’s not real and will eventually pass.
@@melissashupak those are very helpful specifics, thank you! This gives me an idea of which of my behaviors I need to work on modifying or getting help with.
It starts as small things, when it gets to the point you have no room for the stuff you have anymore it’s time to just throw it all way (which if you are a hoarder is easily said than done). I grew up with hoarders and best way to stop it from getting out of control is attending cognitive behavioural therapy and having people clean out your house when you’re not there and making sure they take the stuff to the tip so you can’t retrieve it.
my mom is a hoarder and i could have died at home too, after i could not convince her or throwing away her "treasure" i just gave up and left
How often do you communicate with her
hording is a disease. it isn't as simple as just throwing stuff away. your mother needs professional help, not shame or abandonment.
@@honey-po9ij just think about how exhausting this can be for the family members. Yes, hoarders need help, but they also need to want that help, otherwise it won't work.
my mother is just as bad plus we have every pest you can think of including many other life risking hazards. I am here with ya
@@honey-po9ij you cannot help someone who isn't willing to be helped. And you shouldn't drown yourself to save someone who is determined to stay underwater. Sometimes walking away is the only thing you can do.
The saddest part about mental illness in the US is that those who need help the most are unable to afford getting it.
That's so true.
It really doesn't have anything to do with money. It was a propaganda campaign that shut down the mental institutions in the '70's. It was an intentional act.
No, it isnt a cost issue these people dont want help which is why people have to force the cleaning on them
@@Jst.a.Normal.Bottle.of.Mustard Speaking from personal experience, yes it was a cost issue. I wanted help, but I also wanted a roof over my head. The same goes for millions of others.
@@l337pwnage therapy is expensive and so is healthcare it’s a matter of money
When your house smells so bad that you can’t smell a rotting corpse.
yikes
Your sons*
Wow hold your horses. About your house ? Does it smells like flowers ?
It doesn’t smell like a 20 year old corpse
@@rosshafinaz4060 Don't most house smells good? How else do you live in it?
My mum is a hoarder. Imagine living like this but not through choice of your own? When I was a child the best way I could explain it to her was 'if the house is messy my mind is messy'...that was the best way to describe my mental health, I was just so young I didn't know
so true, i had to fight my mom explaining "if we dont need stuff inmediately, then we dont need it"
Same here, my father and my brother are hoarders. I grew up in chaos. Now I live on another continent and my appartment is in order. I get panick attacks in cluttered spaces.
I have OCD and had no idea it was behind my hoarding tendencies. Makes sense now that I think about it though. Fortunately the cleaning part of my OCD doesn't allow the hoarding to get too bad
Imagine murdering a stranger but convincing yourself you need to keep the body.
Well, it is Australia, self defense is basically illegal. He probably woulda went to prison.
He was hiding the body. In Australia the law benefits criminals, so he'd be put away for defending himself.
He probably didn't want people coming around the house and seeing how he lived. Hoarding is a mental illness, so irrational thoughts like "I'll just wrap this dead body in a carpet and deal with it later" makes perfect sense to them.
I might need it.
@@eyewetodddid What would you need a dead body for..?
Dont you ever feel sad for days and dont clean your house or room and then one day you feel good so, you clean it....imagine not feeling good for years or decades!
I have awful adhd and one thing I never realized it had such an impact on was my room, my room was constantly disorganized and I never even noticed how bad it was until after I got medicated, legit one week after I finally got the right meds I completely cleared out my room and redid everything for the first time since I lived there, i got five trash bags worth of garbage and cleared out over half of my belongings because I was finally able to realize what I didn’t need. I can’t even imagine it being that bad anymore but it was something that seemed so normal for so long to me.
I'm in this picture and I don't like it
The one time my room has been so called "spotless" is when I needed to pack everything up so we could vinegar clean my room for carpet beetles. Its a disaster now
I’m gonna be honest I always just have my room clean because I don’t feel like cleaning it later so I just don’t let it get messy
i only clean my room because i don’t want my mum to shout at me lol
I am beginning to show signs of hording disorder.
And I'm watching videos like this, to convince myself why I MUST let things go, even if it's difficult..
Just think that objects won't make you happy, but rather your experiences and your memonries.
Hoarding terrifies me. I used to watch "Hoarders" until I saw an episode where they mentioned that hoarding can happen to anyone who experiences major trauma in their life.
I'm hoping since my mom died from a long battle with ovarian cancer (and I was her caretaker) in 2017, and I didn't start hoarding, that I won't have this happen. But that terrified me to learn that it could happen to anyone.
Imagine breaking into a hoarders home and then a ton of stuff falls on you and you suffocate
That actually can and does happen to hoarders, it's a very sad and awful way to go. Or even worse than suffocating, is being completely incapacitated and slowly dying from lack of nourishment as a bunch of fallen debris keeps you from getting help like calling your cellphone or if no one is around to hear you cry.
A grim fate like that would hopefully scare me from ever hoarding in my life.
@@QuackZack That's how the Collyer Brothers died. One died from being crushed by the garbage and the other starved to death.
Criminal breaks in, looks around, then nopes out lol
@@arkvoodleofthesacredcrotch6060 cool I've gotten in but at what cost
Has totally happened.
Okay, everyone's wondering how she could have lived so long with a corpse without knowing. But I'm wondering how you break the news to a woman, who's probably been under the impression that her child never wanted to see her again, that that child has in fact been DEAD IN HER ATTIC FOR 20 YEARS.
Attic not basement
Easy tell her then leave.
@@hainleysimpson1507 XD just throw that grande and dip
*attic
@@patricksedler9697 I doubt he told her he was living in her house. How he died, could have been asbestos or poor ventilation?🙁🙏
I have TWELVE cats (my dog brought home a pregnant stray one day, and I couldn’t find homes for the kittens, and it just evolved from there - I’m pretty sure I’m not a hoarder), and my single GREATEST fear is that One of them will get outside or will get into the basement or the garage without me noticing and starve or otherwise suffer because I’m not paying enough attention. Every morning when I get up and every night before bed, I do a cat count just to make sure I have eyes on all of them.
If you havent you should probably get them fixed before you have 40 cats lol
Believe me, get them fixed asap. This happened to me and now I have at least 30 cats on the property and no matter how much I want to keep an eye on all of them, I cant. I understand needing to make sure they're safe especially after losing a couple of my cats because I've been neglectful
You could bring them to a shelter where they'll be adopted.
Bless your soul and also your dog for rescuing those cats
I get it. I’ve had 13 cats at a time, not counting cats I took in and found homes for (I had 23 cats & kittens, at one time). I am a rescuer, not an abuser, at least. I have never had a cat bred or a disease transmitted in my household. They are all tested, dewormed, vaccinated, spayed, and neutered. I pay for it myself. If I can’t afford any of those things, I don’t take on the animal…I bring it to a shelter. I just don’t like them being put down. I’ve rehomed over 100 cats/kittens, not including the over 35 I’ve lived with, over the years. I especially love adopting seniors. They are so sweet & don’t often get homes.
I can totally understand that she didn't recognize the smell of the body. I visited a friends flat a few times and everytime I noticed a really bad smell coming out of a flat on her floor. There was another sign that the flat hadn't been opened in weeks and we called the cops, worrying someone might have died in there. The cops also said the smell was really concerning and could indeed be a rotting body so they called the fire department to break open the door. Luckily there was no body rotting inside, but a hoarders flat with food, trash and rats inside. The residents were already gone for weeks or even months since they were friends of the landlord who let them live there for free (so he didn't recognize that they didn't pay the rent or smth). the landlord was shocked about the state his flat was in and started cleaning it the next day.
you thought living with a corpse would be unbearable you thought wrong🤣
Those prior residents are trash people. Your friend lets you live at a house for free and you leave so much garbage behind that it stinks like a rotting body? Tf, I feel bad for that landlord
I live with a corpse in my house, it’s me, I haven’t felt alive in years
im pretty sure its the dead guy in your
closet and not you
😐.....👏
Same.
Saamee
My soul is dead
my mother is a hoarder :(
it might seem unreasonable, but when you've lost everything you've had before, it makes sense to be afraid of it happening again
Yes that’s my issue I am disabled and have had the Big C 5 times now I once was a nurse had a husband my kids a home now I live in a handicap apartment but I have lost everything due to my physical health
@@caramay4334 everything will be fine. It'll get better, one day at a time.
@@caramay4334 i'm not good at english, you have ny support... Everything will going to be okay, have a nice day! :D
Yep
@@caramay4334 I’m so sorry. You can find support online, make new friends and even get hobbies
So sad I wish we had more resources for people with mental health issues.
Hj
my dad was a huge hoarder and recently he passed away because of it. i appreciate you taking the time to educate people on this topic. many people don't understand how hard it can be; not only on the hoarder themself, but their family as well.
imagine, how much of a nice relationship you had to have had in your local grocery store for them to be concerned when you don't show up to buy your usual groceries. its sad he died, but also how sweet of those people to think about him that way. he was more than just a regular old customer.
Small, local shops. I know the one I work at always tries to get in contact if they don't see someone for a while.
We're a population of 40,000. I work the night shift at a 24 hour store and often times this old man would stop by around midnight and stick around until shift change at 7 am. He would cruse around in a mobility scooter. Stayed out of the way, held great conversations, would cruise around and give all the workers candy during holidays.
Turns out he was living off grid, too poor to pay the electricity and hung out in the store to stay warm at night. Not long after the new year, he stopped showing up and a few days later it was in the paper that a propane tank he was using to fuel a heater had exploded. He survived the explosion, but later died from burn wounds when he ran back into his house for something.
It was very upsetting to the night shift, as none of us had any idea of his troubles. He kept conversations non-personal, and we just figured he was lonely, or just not a night sleeper like the rest of us.
Sounds like the kind of thing that can only happen in small towns & rural areas. Where I live, grocery stores can't seem to keep employees for more than 2 months before their laid off & replaced with machines or someone willing to work longer hours for less pay.
My local Tesco supermarket (which is in a city and sees a lot of people) immediately noticed my absence when I got stuck in Wales during lockdown, and asked my partner each Sunday (our usual shopping day) how I was, and when I finally got back, several members of staff were really happy to see me. I think you just get used to your regulars
And he had a body rolled up in a rug
My niece was showing hoarding disorders when she was 10, going through trash and bringing home. She was being abused by her mom so I guess it helped. Now she’s on therapy and has stopped
Aww bless her little self
I hope she's able to maintain her stability
Glad she got better.
And that’s why abusive parents are idiots
i remember one time i dragged home a bar stool wjen i was in elementary school. the thing was as tall as me. i didnt even get to sit in it. apparently the thing wss full of bugs and my dad burned it ;-;
@@silverwolf281 Did anyone try to stop you?
My mum is a borderline hoarder, she kept a lot of stuff from when her mum passed away, took her 5 years to start clearing things out, before she did we had 2 storage units, a car full of stuff at all times, and boxes in every cupboard
Okay so I’m not THAT severe of being a hoarder but I am one and the literal reason is because I don’t know when I’ll ever find those things again because I was raised with nothing. I even hoard plastics in case I need them. It’s deep rooted in me to literally save anything I have because it could have a purpose. And when I met a girl who was so rich that she threw away all her leftovers after dinner, I asked to take them home because I cannot deal with wasting food and I felt embarrassed to ask for it but I just can’t. There’s so many people out there that are without. I don’t ever throw my clothes away. I’ve always been given hand me Downs and got excited as heck. I always donate anything I can’t physically wear anymore. But my place looks NOTHING like that, but I DO indeed keep things that pile up and I’ve had to teach myself recently that I have to let go of some things. I had a perfume as a present for 10 years. I’d only use 1 squirt every 5 months. My sister had to teach me that it’s meant to be used. I just didn’t want it to run out. Honestly, it’s a really sad and embarrassing disorder.
The real horror story here is the fact that the guy went to sleep in a pair of jeans before dying.
Maybe he was just laying down in pain
He might of wanted a nap
That's why he died
Lol sad but not sad
@@randybrandy6643 LMAOKFJSISH
Missing person; Police: "Should we check the home?" Also police: "Nah".
Police: he just mad at his Mom, he be fine...
It has 666 likes... o_o
Exactly my thoughts
That's a very sad scary fact.
shows exactly how incompetent the police are.
I have a mild hoarding disorder (I am capable of getting rid of things, but there are many items that are distressing to get rid of, even when it seems silly) and something I've found out helps me cope is turning old things into new things-- most times I can retain what was important to me about the last item, while giving it functionality and use. For example, using newspapers in art projects and salvaging parts of an old worn backpack to sew a new one.
I still have several bins of recycling i can't bring myself to throw out, though
I did the same with 4 small 'oui' brand yogurt glasses. I used 2 of them for blackboard chalk, 1 for thumbtacks and 1 for beads.. and a large tin can for my eraser
Thank you for the sensible look at hoarding disorder. I've struggled with it for my entire life, starting from being raised (or neglected, rather) in a filthy home.
When people hear "OCD" they think impeccable cleanliness and organization, or it just being a quirky trait. But that's wholly inaccurate, and many of us do have hoarding tendencies that jeopardize our health and wellbeing.
I like how he not only shares the story, but also educates his audience on how to help people who struggle with this problem.
🙄
343 likes
nice
@@WolfyRed now 454 😂
That's the strong point of Brew, aside from the personalities of the trio in these videos and the animation/presentation of course
Except he is giving the wrong advice to see a psychiatrist...One should not start with a psychiatrist and should see a psychologist FIRST if at all possible.
Im sure his motivation is pure...but that doesnt mean it isnt bad advice.
I was just minding my own business, having a normal day, and then *This* hops itself into my recommended
I'm concerned but i regret nothing
I was gonna like it but it’s at 69 so yea
@@hystericalnicky3483 I'm sorry to say that someone ruined it
@@hystericalnicky3483 i appreciate your efforts, even in vain as they were
@@hystericalnicky3483 what does 69 mean?
@@symbolicmess2 uhhhh you learn it once your older
my grandmother maintains her horde with my uncle. It's just a mindset she got from growing up in the great depression. Every time I visit I leave with a trunk full of "gifts".
My Dad has hoarding tendencies along with me. I grew up in it and I'm still fighting against that instinct after finally cleaning my room entirely and trashing more than half of my things. Thank you for being sensitive about the topic.
Imagine if they checked their hoard before the body decomposed.
What if it was half-way decomposed? . . .
gross
That'd be pretty traumatic
It would look like something out of an Indiana Jones film
What I am surprised by is that they didn't smell the decomposing corpse stench.
I can't imagine the mold and rotting food smelling worse than that. I've been told that it's one of the worst smells imaginable and NOTHING could mask it.
@@BierBart12 nose blind
I CANNOT get over the fact that she went into a hoarder’s home AND DECIDED TO GO INTO THE ATTIC!!!
When you enter a house you are greeted with strong smells. The attic most have smelt so bad that she had to go check it out.
She family not a stranger 🤣
But good thing they did though...
yea right
After 20 years it didn’t smell anymore. It was a skeleton
I'll tell you where it comes from: the contradiction between socialized production with privatized profits. workers can't own anything without putting themselves in debt, we rent everything; we are therefore incentivized to hold on to any possession we have in order to feel like we have some sort of ownership over some part of our lives.
My hoarding started with my mom throwing everything I owned away or selling it to “teach me a lesson”. She did it four times. Twice when I was a child, twice when I was an adult and at work and she broke into my home. Now if someone tries to “help” me organize or clean up, I freak out.
Since mom died, I pretty much have it under control.
I haven’t cleaned my room in years, and it started to look like a hoarder’s room. I’ve started cleaning it recently, small chunks of the room at a time. My desk is spotless now! :)
Nice
Good job! I wonder what it looks like now after 7 months
@@savetheevo Dirty
@@Megapixel8063 awwh man :(
Hey you could try again clean your room and do a vídeo, just for us! I'll be Happy to watch it
TIMMY GET DOWN NOW, Timmy... Are you coming to eat, okay I guess you can stay and play your video games.
huh
100 years later: ".................."
104 years later: I'm finally a ghost time to look at my son-
Son: hi mom
@2021 S1G2 02 CHEN CHAK FUNG LUCAS Oh no...
*cue flies buzzing around corpse*
This is what hoarding does to the people around you. My mother was a hoarder and we couldn't have friends over, family rarely came, and we rarely went anywhere because mom's safety zone was her hoard. It's this massive "secret" everyone knows about that must be protected at all costs. It's horribly isolating and incredibly destructive to everyone it touches, like alcoholism. It's awful growing up in an environment where your shoes from ten years ago are more important than you.
And now my sister is a hoarder too.
I want to know why a blind woman wasnt getting any home help.
Hoarding tv show: Do you really need this?
Her: Of course I need it!
Hey, it happens. Ever have a grandfather that never threw anything away because he had an entire scrapyard dedicated to making munitions to the point where the fire department says: "If that house ever catches on fire, we'll let it burn to the ground?"
Oh, and the cat dander! PHEW! That smell will stain your nose FOR YEARS.
Where was I going with this? Oh yeah, memories. They stink.
Of corpse i need it
"Yes, i of course thoroughly need this peed-upon local newspaper from the 11th of March, 1986. how could a sane person just throw it away?"
@@babygravey i thought of the same joke
@@reallawnboy5504 well like your dad said to your mums boyfriend if you're not fast you're last 😂
"She never said hello. She was always walking down the street with a grocery bag. She would walk looking down. Something about her always seemed a little weird" - Gothamist about the blind lady.
Wow the blind lady not acknowledging you, and always looking down?
You're right that is weird.
She probably wasn't blind her whole life.
Strange ikr :o
Well if they never talked, maybe they didn't know that she was LEGALLY blind. That's different from completely blind btw
Not talking with neighbours? That seems like a healthy teenager/ student.
They never talked so maybe he didn't know she was blind
I really appreciate the time you took to discuss hoarding disorder/ocd. Seeing hoarding constantly used for shock value is extremely distressing and makes getting help/improving so much harder.
Yea I thought i have ocd this type i used to have as well
it's hilarious when regular people say they're OCD because they need things super clean or organized.... and yet hoarding is a form of OCD. Clean and organized isn't exactly a great way to describe a hoarder.
Isn't OCD somewhat varied in people who have it? It's not always the stereotype of liking things clean
@@riddlerthediddler4392 that's my entire point
You can be obsessive compulsive about a variety of things. I have some OCD tendencies that make no sense. I often have a pile of dirty dishes because I can't wash dishes until the entire kitchen is spotless, so I have to spend a good chunk of the day cleaning before I can even start the dishes
@@angeladansie4378 who said you couldn't?
@@angeladansie4378 me too, but I have a very different case
I can't look at hair on things, I can't look in the garbage can, insects, I can't stop putting caps on pens, and I can't handle soaking things in liquid that doesn't fit together.
I used to be a hoarder. The best way I can describe what it felt like having it is, imagine you have something that’s super important to you, anything will do, to other people, whatever item you chose may be considered trash or something unimportant. To you, it’s like that item is worth $1,000,000 dollars so you can’t let go of it. One thing that happened when I had it was, there was this cup we had, just a normal plastic cup, my mom threw it away and I found out about it, I tried to ignore the fact it was in the trash outside, I tried to roll over and go back to sleep as it was about 1:00a.m. At the time. I couldn’t ignore it, I went into a panicked state, I was crying and hyperventilating. I ended up getting out of bed, and going outside to dig through the trash, once I found it I brought it back inside, washed it really well, and put it back in the cabinet, since then we still have the cup. Even though I’m no longer a hoarder, I can tell you it was extremely difficult to let go of worthless items such as straw wrappers, or broken dog toys. If you or anyone you know may be suffering from hoarding, please try to encourage them or yourself to go see a psychologist, it’s a huge help trust me. Don’t be ashamed of this mental disorder, nor of yourself, it’s not your fault and nobody will judge you for reaching out and getting help, trust me on that I can guarantee professionals really do work miracles.
I can't imagine something like that, I'm a very messy person naturally and I have severe depression for at least a decade so the best way for me to handle my house is throwing away things that can clutter my space. I take to long to feel up to cleaning and if I have too much stuff I couldn't do it, cleaning would become overwhelming, so it's easier for me throw away something I want to keep than keep something that needs to go.
It's been a month that I have a little pile of trash (small bottles and old clothes) in a corner of my living room, because I was cleaning and when I saw that amount of stuff I couldn't handle, like it's not huge, but it's enough to make me tired thinking about it, I can't imagine how exhausted I would be if it was the whole house. The only place never gets too messy is the kitchen, I have a rule for the number of plates, cups and everything else, if don't fit in the cupboards, it goes to the trash, or I risk become overwhelmed with the cleaning and kitchens can become filthy pretty fast.
When I look stuff I usually just get tired thinking about the amount of time and energy I have to put to keep than. It's exhausting.
Why did your mom throw out the cup? It sounds like it was still functional item if you guys still have it to this very day and are using it.
Out oof curiosity, do you think you could throw that cup in the trash now?
Congrats on getting help and overcoming your condition. It sounds like it was a hard task. :)
I hope the best for your recovery ❤️🩹
My great grandma was a hoarder, when we cleaned out her home when she died we found multiple dead tortoises. They called her the Turtle Lady Of Long Beach.
Long beach Ca or new york?
@@paulocarre1
Long Beach, WA
Actually, I don't know. I'm just entertained by the number of Long Beaches. :P
Wait like they were alive as pets or did they just wander in
**chokes-**
Long Beach Florida?
My dad is a hoarder, it's an annoying thing to deal with because he keeps collecting stuff even when there's no room for more.
Even ruined furniture can't be thrown away without him raising in outrage. My mom, brother and I had to secretly throw away a dishwasher that never worked and became a rat's nest that smelled terrible timing it well for when the trash truck arrived. We even gifted the men some other stuff and food and drinks for them to take it away immediately. He still keeps saying today that he could have had it repaired and sold when we all know he would have never done either.
"oh thats really sad"
"it doesn't get better"
"oh" 💀got my dying
"Are ya winning son?"
"...son?"
"........son??"
underrated
Oml yes underrated
not funny.
@@charliepuppy. ur unfunny
Mmmmm
That animation of the dude with the frying pan runnin' up on the intruder and whacking him 😂🤣🤣. Why was that so funny?
I don't know, but it's the best laugh I have had this week. I'm not sure that's a good thing...
**bonk**
Slapstick basically.
_bonking noises intensifies_
Did him dirty, he entered the house and heard the garbage talking. This ain't Nam no more boys.
2:38 "Oh that's really sad"
" *And it's not going to get better* "
" *O h* "
Yeahs I thought the same thing
Thank you so much for putting that at the beginning of video. Mental illness is not a joke.
Plot twist: She knew he was dead. She was hoarding his body.
In a weird way that makes me feel a little better, because then, at least, there would be one person who noticed he died.
😂😂😂
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I heard a creepy riddle that had a similar premise
i have hoarding disorder and it’s beyond painful. i developed symptoms at the age of 4 and i also suffer from OCD.
even talking about it causes me major distress - but i thank you for being so sensitive and compassionate when talking about this disorder. it helps us a lot.
❤️❤️❤️
In the same boat, sending you well wishes.
I have a question... Aren't hoarding and ocd cleaning opposite things?
@@alwaysright2311 OCD is a lot more than just cleaning. In fact, lots of people deal with compulsions that have nothing to do with germs or organization. Mental illness can also overlap in multiple ways that don't always "make sense"
Hope things get better for you
This showed me I’m a low lever hoarder but still a hoarder. This made me wanna deep clean everything
The best therapy for hoarders (besides antidepressants, of course) is to go to their houses and help them categorize objects. Plastic bags, clothing, boxes, etc. Then you ask them object by object which ones would they like to keep and which they won't keep. Piles should be 50 / 50. The other thing is helping them value clear spaces. "Rooms need to breathe".
I couldn't imagine being so alone that my own mother doesn't notice I died in my own room in her house... and literally nobody else in the world asked where I was.
That's what hoarding does to the people around you. My mother was a hoarder and we couldn't have friends over, family rarely came, and we rarely went anywhere because mom's safety zone was her hoard. It's this massive "secret" everyone knows about that must be protected at all costs. It's horribly isolating and incredibly destructive to everyone it touches, like alcoholism. It's awful growing up in an environment where your shoes from ten years ago are more important than you.
That’s horriable, she would of still least come across his body at some point? Or did stacks of stuff just fall on him after he died and she never saw him among the walls of clutter. The poor guy was as if he was forgotten and just left there to rot along with the other clutter. I know it’s not her fault but it seemed like a cruel way his remains ended up being mummified due to his surroundings and circumstances
@@whitedragoness23 she was legally blind, I doubt she saw much if anything at all and with the house itself covering the stench, after a few years of living in it she would be used to the smell to a degree where it doesn't bother her unless shes gone outside and then walked inside because of the scent being different from the outside that you were used to just a moment ago
The mom was legally blind and probably elderly (not to mention used to the stench of her own house), so it's totally possible that she didn't see or smell the corpse. And since she's elderly she probably didn't go upstairs to the attic often. She also thought he had just ran away.
I love how sensitively this subject was handled, trying not to stigmatize the disorder. Hoarding and OCD in general is hard enough without people acting as if the people who act on compulsion want to live that way. Ocd is one of the most misunderstood mental health issues around, so a video so well made is very refeshing.
The video is 10:28 seconds long. That'll drive those ocdees nutz.
Jebes that's really not what OCD is
Exactly!! I’ve had OCD since I was really young, and now even on medication for it it’s so hard, and it takes literal years to try and control, especially after being untreated for so long
@@jebes909090 please don't say stuff like that. It's hurtful to me and others with ocd as it's something that trivializes our everyday struggles.
@@connorfinishdthemilk5667 yes. I was lucky enough to be diagnosed when I was three, and it's still a daily struggle. It's like living with a monster.
8:51 it’s funny because as a kid toy story made me not want to throw out any of my toys for this exact reason
Thank you for your sensitivity and care towards the discussion of mental disorders.
Still less impressive than the dead woman who’s tv was on for 3 years
Wait fr? That Happened?
@@zukoshonor7435 yes
And she was found by a debt collector
oh ye
Wait how tf can a TV go on non-stop for 3 years without burning up????
Imagine thinking your son ran away and be like "he is DEAD to this family" only to discover this 20 yrs later
"He's dead to us"
*Someone finds the body*
"... literally?-"
i worry i might be a hoarder or be on that path. i check all the boxes and my room definitely looks terrible. i don’t know if i’ll be able to get better, especially because everyone in my life just thinks i’m lazy.
Thank you for acknowledging that it has to do with ocd! I feel like mainstream media completely misunderstands what a lot of people experience with their ocd. I have a lot of distress when cleaning because of the way I feel the need to over-organize everything, causing it to paralyze me and take a lot longer. I thankfully am able to overcome it in most cases, but people don't believe I have ocd because of the way it is often presented. I obsessively clean... when I can. Other times it presents as messiness. Mental illness is complicated.
Imagine your son goes missing. You try and go find him and a search party goes out, you can’t find him so the cops give up. 20 years later you’ve finally learned how to let got them BAM, you get in the show hoarders and they dig up your house and find your son (edit) thanks for all the likes
As I was reading that I was hoping the conclusion would be finding the corpses of the rescue team and cops. Yours is good too though.
I wish I could say I'm surprised but in every other episode of Hoarders somebody unearths a mummified cat or something. Always makes me feel super bummed.
No one searched for him. Poor guy. Imagine being raised like that
@@fiatlux4058 ikr
@@autobotrock4789 yeah it’s really sad
This is like that febreze commercial "Jake thinks his room smells fine, but his mom smells this: 🗑🗑🚮🚮
r/youngpeopleyoutube
@@tauon_ uh, how?
@@oldbrandnamehere exactly -_-
@@zephyr8504Dudes like 8
@@tauon_ how is it?
My best friend's a police officer and she had to break open a room in a social living project. The man inside had died some time previous, and despite the windows having been open the whole time, they could only go in with gas masks. A neighbour opened his door briefly, and retreated right back into his room and was heard throwing up. My point is, I cannot imagine it being possible that people live with corpses, much less without noticing!
Imagine being so disconnected from the rest of the world and family no one looks for you. Not even in your room.
lol that do be sad tho
Bruh
Hoarding has been passed down my family. I've been fighting it hard. I've gotten rid of half or more of my things in the last 3 months.
You can do it! I'm always so afraid I'll end up like my grandma. I tend to be able to get rid of most things without issue so I think I'm doing okay.
If you ever need to talk, I'm here. Hope your doing ok Juni
You're doing great 😊😊
That’s awesome news!
Good job! Keep,it up!
My mom has a measure of this issue. Thanks to living her childhood with less than needed (other than food), she throws away nothing. At least she doesn't bring in garbage, but she won't under any circumstance throw away things she hasn't used in 20 years of moving to some 5 or 6 different houses.
Weird fact: I starter ADHD medication a couple of months ago and all of a sudden I’ve become able to sort and throw things away! I realized that and talked to my doctor about it and she told me that people with ADHD often suffer from their brains not knowing what to prioritize and asigns equal meaning to almost everything. Because of this it can get incredibly difficult to throw things out because your brain convinces you that everything has much more value than it actually does. I had saved things like half broken light strings that went full strobe when I turned them on and looked horrible, but I had saved then because of my inability to see that they weren’t important.
Since starting my meds I’ve thrown out/donated 12 big black bags of clothing and things I didn’t need nor want to keep. It’s insane the difference it has made in my life.
My first job was working at Lowes home improvement, in thegardening section, we found a dead decomposing rat. It was hands down the worst smell I've ever experienced in my life. I imagine a dead decomposing human has to be infinitely worse. The fact that someone could live with a dead body for 20 years and not know it is mind boggling to me.
It’s frustrating.
My dad kept hoarding bottled water for his “boiling water” needs. Small items and bottle caps scatter around the house....
Every time we bring this up, he just straight up don’t care and it’s his “personal stuff”
Help.
If I didn’t easily get repulsed by visual things that look bad, I’d be a great person to work for one. I don’t have a sense of smell.
What about the family like they just thought he mysteriously disappeared
One time. I had so many clothes on my bathroom floor. And for awhile. I thought it smelled like dead fish in the bathroom. And it went away after a week or so Then when I went to clean up my clothes. There was a rotted dead mouse underneath Omg I was horrified and I don’t tell that to even my best friend because I’m so embarrassed that I got that bad
My brother had a snake and he used to feed it one rabbit every 2 weeks. One time, I think it ate too much and the snake vomitted the rabbit after a couple of hours. It smelled for at least a week.
If a body isn’t found until 20 years after the person has died, there is no way a cause of death can be determined
it’s crazy to me how many people having hoarding tendencies! i’m completely opposite. i throw away everything i can, & i just love the way it makes me feel when i do. it’s like it clears my mind. i only keep things that i need, & those things have a certain organized spot in the house. if there’s any sort of clutter i feel like i’m going to lose it, & the best thing for me to do is just get rid of any & everything extra. doesn’t matter if it’s valuable, doesn’t matter if it should be “sentimental.” it can go either way
A cause not mentioned, poverty. Especially if grew up in poverty. Example: "I can't throw away this old pair of socks with a hole, what if something happens to my new pair of socks like someone steals them, and then I have no socks to wear?" Same with other things as well. The hoard consists of "backup" things because you rarely afford or receive as gifts new things. Same with food. Why keep semi rotted food? Cuz picking the salvageable parts off is still better than no food
I watched an actual full episode on this, and in the end it made so much sense. That total visual disarray in that case was caused by anxiety due to poverty. It wasn't "dirty" per se at least on the surfaces. Actually quite organized piles. Just so, soooo many things. Broke my heart for them really.
Yeah, I was thinking about this. I'm poor so I can recognize those lines of thinking. I have some traces of hoarding and OCD and it kinda scares me that it could develop into something worse.
A lot of elderly people that lived during World War II do have the same "problem". They learned to value things a lot more than we did, so they are hanging on to them. Even if they have 20 towels, they will keep the one with the holes in them.
So true. My family has hoarding issues that we easily trace back to the Great Depression. My great-grandparents were small-time farmers in the American south, so between the economic depression and the droughts in the 30's, they started having to hold onto anything they owned, no matter how small or disposable it was supposed to be. That kind of attitude of never wasting anything was passed on to their children, then to my father, and now to me, even though we haven't relied on farming for three generations. It's so ingrained into us that it feels impossible to break even though we're aware of why we do it-- there's a very valid justification that we're just bracing for the next inevitable depression, which both my parents and I have now already lived through and will live through again. That's part of the reason why CBT isn't necessarily the best or only treatment for hoarding in every case: in cases like these, you *have* to consider the socio-economic factors, or the behavior just starts cropping up again.
exactly how I feel.
I actually probably have a hoarding disorder due to poverty. I grew up in some poverty, so any thing I get I keep because "what if I need it in the future?" Im starting to throw things away so yeah. Idk thought I'd share.
This is the first time I've heard this disorder spoken about in such a clinical and understanding way. It gives me a new perspective on my late grandma, who was also a hoarder.
It's sad u need a video instead of empathy to understand where hoarding stems from
@@bambambi5918 Well when I asked her why she did it she never gave a straight answer so how was I to know there was something to empathize about? You don't know me or my situation; so check yourself before you wreck yourself.
@@bambambi5918 Dude empathy is not magic you know.
Imagine dying 20 years ago and no one even noticed..
Imagine your family not even noticing your death?? That’s really sad :(
God, I’m the opposite, I’ll throw everything out in a room just because it’s annoying me 😂
Lol this is me 🙌
Same
Highfive😂
Sounds like you & the people who agree with you have a different type of mental disorder. Have you gotten help for it yet?
@@darkallegiance666 ok doctor
I legit cracked up at "For the Hoard" lol
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Isnt it a wow refference?:D
Haha voice go *crac*
Whats the reference
@@danminstell5287 one of the playable factions in WoW is called the Horde, with the common battlecry being 'For the Horde!'
7:05 That cop's lucky he doesn't have a nose.
Being a forgotten corpse in a home could honestly happen to me
"I have a lot of skeletons in my closet..."
"Oh, I'm sorry."
"What for? I'm still waiting for the cleaners to get rid of them. Those teenagers dying in my house, always attached to their phones."
There's an Eminem joke in here somewhere
Bruh you scared me
I like your pfp
😳😂🤷🤔
I’ve seen you before and that profile picture is STILL creeping me out.
As a kid I always got emotionally attached to random items and objects and would refuse to let them go even if they are broken. It got so bad that I even refused to throw away juice cartons. However that went away after puberty
omg same
Same it almost didn't go away but my mom always tries to to help me know what I should and shouldn't keep
i was the same- to be fair, i was also going through a lot of trauma and eventually lost my home as a child. after puberty i developed OCD but non-hoarding. i do have trouble parting with items, but i don't collect random stuff and i throw things away unless they hold true sentimental value
I still have emotional attachments to my stuffed animals lol
i still do Lol
Hording is a very tough mental illness. I had strong tendencies towards it when I was younger, but it seemed to be an effect of feeling like I had no control of my life. When I feel I'm in control of things, it isn't an issue. I'm just a bit messy but no more than anyone else.
On the other hand, I had a neighbour who was friendly, outgoing, and always looked immaculate outside the house. Inside her home though was piles of junk that were nearly impossible to move through.
It can manifest differently in different people for different reasons. Mental illnesses are complicated things.
I can’t thank u enough for making these animated. I’m highly sensitive but really enjoy these
Too bad access to mental health professionals in America is so hard to get
It's not tho. They literally have a website, you can sign up like Netflix for about the same price.
??? Huh no it’s not there’s many mental Heath professions in America? also many apps to use and in schools, programs, many phone lines you can literally find a mental Heath care services
Across a couple of blocks from ur house..
[_ESPI][NOZA__] it’s not a lack of professionals. It’s the price tag. Mental health care is seen as a luxury by American insurance companies. Many apps and online services charge ludicrous prices and turn away people with severe mental health issues. It’s very sad and it sucks it’s not accessible
@@moth9181 oh alright, I already knew that but I didn’t noticed they were talking about the price..
There are lots of mental health professionals throughout the US. I'm not sure about every locality. If you have health insurance, you can go almost anywhere.
3:22 ... I'm not gonna be the one to say it. but I was thinking it
Hoarding is a weird habit. I grew up in a hoard house. My grandfather, living through the Great Depression inherited the natural living style. My father inherited that, and I did as well. As though my hoarding isn’t big, I collect seemingly useless things that I can’t abandon.
The most awful thing about it is thinking you’ve finally organized everything, and then somebody says “wow, it’s a mess in here.” It doesn’t look so bad from your view.
“Finding corpses in the homes is actually pretty common”
What
Lol I'm weirded out it's on my recommendations 🤣
Usually pets
I- uhh... Let's just collectively ignore why they said that?
These hoarder people don’t need our criticism.. what they need is our support and help and compassion.
They need a dumpster . . .
That's sweet you should work in a therapeutic setting for people like this. I personally find it infuriating.
@@ohio948 No, they need a psychiatrist.
@@peanutjuice1748 he's definitely gonna critique them and their choices.
My grandmother once invited us over asking for our help, we filled up both her garbage bin and recycling bin with random garbage she had in one small corner, it was a fight for each and every bit of it down to pieces of moldy bits of wood and 20 year old rotting newspaper, literally rotting garbage, she afterwards got so angry she said she didn't want us back because "we just wanted to throw out all her stuff", and that we could clear out her stuff only after she dies. Again, she ASKED us to help that day. She does have a family doctor and is on meds for anxiety and various things, but she's still a hoarder. We have tried our hardest to help but hoarding is a tough problem. She and her husband live in a 3-4 bedroom house, but at least 2 of the rooms are so full you can't open the door.
The way none of the family members cared when he disappeared is making me kinda sad
All those years she never once thought, "Ya know what? Ima call my son see how he's doing.".
Its possible she just thought he abandoned her.
Since she already has a very heavy mental illness, it's possible she has other ones that made her think it was normal for him to not want to see her. Which is why she never reported anything, she just accepted it as fact.
But this is just a theory....a really sad one.
"Without realizing it." Yeah... right.
Yeah kinda, sus
Bruh, I used to work as the dude that would go to check if people are alive here in my country. Once you enter a hoarder's house, you'll be 100% convinced this would be possible. Think about the worst, most putrid smell you ever sniffed, now multiply that by 10, that's your average hoarder's house.
A putrid corpse smells a lot, but in a house where everything is putrid that's literally the smell of the house.
Yeah her whole house would have been caked in flies
Sus
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When they get more items, they don't get rid of the old ones because it feels like they are being abandoned by the objects, or that they are abandoning the objects. So I guess hoarding can be caused by abandonment issues.
I have emotional attachments to all of my stuffed animals ;-;
yep. i was a hoarder as a young child (from 8 or 9 - 12 years old) and it was almost like every item was a sentient being or somehow alive- that they had feelings. kinda like in toy story, but it applied to essentially any inanimate object- even straight up garbage. throwing things away felt like i was betraying another human person, telling them that they are worthless. it was wildly irrational and i was always aware of that, but just the thought of throwing things away would send me into an unprecedented state of panic and anxiety that i wouldn’t wish on anyone. the best thing you can do for people like this is be patient and kind, not shaming or aggressive. i was lucky to have amazing and supportive people in my life who sought help for me. a combo of therapy and medication (mostly meds for me) led to finally being able to stop hoarding at age 12. it’s not laziness, it’s an anxiety disorder. treat these people with love and compassion, as they are wildly misunderstood and truly do need professional help.
@@tkettlesoup I’m the exact same- minus the getting help part. You managed to put it into words better than I can. I don’t know how to ask for help :/
@@30ratsstackedinatrenchcoat91 it starts with reaching out to a friend, or just start looking around for a therapist. It'll be okay!
I'm not a full-blown hoarder but my entire family has tendencies towards it. We haven't gone to therapy about it, but we are working on it.
It's okay, you can do this
@@sunchasericeserawings7166 I asked my parents but I don’t think they understand me, and I’m too scared to ask again in case I get called a hypochondriac again
@@30ratsstackedinatrenchcoat91 aww. I'm sorry. What about friends or a school counselor?
This video made me view my collections of guitars and 80s and 90s clothes with concern that I'm in the beginning stages of hoarding.
From one of Brew's links in the description:
"Hoarding is not the same as collecting. Collectors typically acquire possessions in an organized, intentional, and targeted fashion. Once acquired, the items are removed from normal usage, but are subject to being organizing, admired, and displayed to others. Acquisition of objects in people who hoard is largely impulsive, with little active planning, and triggered by the sight of an object that could be owned. Objects acquired by people with hoarding lack a consistent theme, whereas those of collectors are narrowly focused on a particular topic. In contrast to the organization and display of possessions seen in collecting, disorganized clutter is a hallmark of hoarding disorder."
So you're probably more than good. 👍 It's very, very rare for collecting certain objects to turn into full-fledged hoarding anyway - the two have very different motivations!