The scandals of Michael Schumacher
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- Michael Schumacher is widely considered the greatest Formula 1 driver of all time, but he didn't go without controversy during his career. Michael was involved in various controversial incidents and was even accused of cheating on multiple occasions. During his championship battles with Damon Hill in 1994, Jacques Villeneuve in 1997 and Fernando Alonso in 2005, controversial moments took place. Fans were furious in 2002 when Ferrari orders Michael's teammate Rubens Barrichello, who was set for a race win, to let Michael through. Michael Schumacher also managed to win a race from the pit lane, serving a stop go penalty after he crossed the finish line. Michael could be the most iconic and recognisable Formula 1 driver of all time, but his legacy might be somewhat tainted or stain in the eyes of some fans. Enjoy!
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It is still wild to me that the only driver to really turn Michaels mind games around on him and make him crack was Jacques Villeneuve of all people
Although he was Canadian, he had the North American toughness and he is the son of Gilles Villeneuve. Jacques had the same kind of cutthroat approach i mean look up some of his overtakes, he really was crazy. But he was just not the same after his crash… and i am saying this as a Schumacher Fan
Villeneuve driving a much faster car and Ferraris internal pressure culture maybe had something to do with it.
@@joshimura1995 I don‘t think Michael had so much pressure in his second season with Ferrari, he already drove superb
I think Mika was the only driver who really was levels above Michael's mind games.
@@fredyicey doesnt matter if you dont win the title for ferrari, there is a part in the netflix documentary that talks about that.
Schumacher was under extreme pressure, especially in 2000, because for the first time the ferrari was competitive.
I dont count 99 for obvious reasons.
No Michael, No No Michael!
That was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not right
That was so not right!!!
*slams headset on table*
*loud cursing in German*
Toto, It's called a motor race okay?
@@myraldie Jesus Christ dude... How long did that take?
Twitter + Michael Schumacher would have been a hilarious combo.
"That didn't work. That didn't work, Michael, you hit the wrong part of him my friend!"
The fucking best commentator line ever.
@@Zamppa86 followed up by "I haven't been this disappointed since Shrek 2"
said by a bitter man whos career was ended by schumacher
@@anonymousone6075 or just a playful jab at a competitor and friend
In Monaco he had several scandals: In 2005 he overtook Ralf and Rubens so hard that he risked his relationship with them. In 2006 he went through the Rascasse affair and was demoted to the end of the grid afterblocking Alonso for the pole. And in 2010 he overtook Alonso before the SC came in in the last lap, demoting him from P6 to P12
that last corner overtake was brilliant though, at the time they didn’t want races to end under safety car so it was decided that the safety car would pull into the pits and the green flag would be flown for the finish. Michael saw the green flag and overtook Alonso and for that perfectly legal move he was given a 25 second penalty afterwards. I still don’t understand why they didn’t just say “yeah, you’re right that was a loophole, you can keep that, but you can’t do it anymore” like the move was legal?? and he got punished? it still baffles me
@@endreszentgyorgyi5270 Because Fernando did what Fernando does, whined about the rules being used against him *COUGH* 2006 Hungary *COUGH* that was a legitimate overtake and was nothing in the rulebook to outlaw it but you'll notice they changed the rules damn fast because Michael was too intelligent for the FIA
The last corner overtake was technically allowed because it wasn't forbidden in the rules. But we all knew he was doomed to get a penalty as soon as we saw that DAMON HILL was one of the stewards! As if that was ever going to be a fair hearing!
@@walover165 🤣🤣
The fact remains that 2010 Michael was a failure. Even if the overtake was allowed, what he did to Barrichello in Hungary 2010 (a former teammate, they won five Constructors together) was not only a black flag scenario but a black out scenario in the Paddock as Well If i would have been in Barrichellos shoes.
My dad who watched F1 through the 90s up to today sums up why people don't like Schumacher.
"What happened with Damon the first time could have been a one time thing, but it happened with Villeneuve too."
Seen all the footage I need to. You don't make the same mistake twice, you choose.
my view is a lock up can be an accident as we see that all the time... But turning into a rival (twice) to prevent them winning is always intentional even if it is a reaction in the moment. Senna is another one... so is prost that deliberately hit their rival to win in japan 89 (prost) and 90 (senna)
Yet Hill admits now he should never have gone for the move.
I think Adelaide was a genuine accident. But it may have subconsciously planted the idea for Jerez.
@@walover165 your blind
@@walover165 Obviously he shouldn't have gone for the move, because Schumacher had enough damage and therefore would be passed by Hill later anyways. But... Thats with the benefit of hindsight, as Hill did not know Schumachers car was damaged.
Him saying that, doesn't mean he thinks it wasn't Schumachers fault.
yea and these people forget all the times Hill rammed schumacher off the track
There's also a mini scandal that was rumoured at the 2000 Austrian GP where Schumacher was crashed out at turn 1 with broken suspension. Instead of getting out his car, he was rumoured to have reversed his car and parked it in the middle of the track in the hopes that the stewards would red flag the race as his car would require marshals to remove his car from the racing line with the safety car also needing to pass through the track.
Smart move
@@mac.fk14 Martin Brundle even clocked onto it during live commentary
Probably so he would have time to reach the T car...
That's just rumors. It wasn't parked in the middle of the track and it only slid because of the slight elevation of the track. It was easily removed by the Marshals with no problem.
@@JustSomeDinosaurPerson The Austria lap isn't very long and there was also a couple more cars around Michael's car that needed removing too. I suppose the safety car could have come through the pit lane if necessary. Besides, red flags over smaller lap 1 incidents were quite prominent because spare cars were still a thing back then. I believe the FIA threw them out a lot because they wanted to get the race restarted with all the cars back on the grid.
I can only imagine Adelaide 94 but in the internet/social media era and with Lewis and Max. 😄🔥
Spa 98 with the Coulthard brawl was also a highlight of him, though not exactly foul play.
Yeah, it would've been ridiculus and over the top and probably pretty nasty considering how nasty the British press got about it at the time. I remember my heartbreak and anger watching it, and 97 seemingly confirming it, but, looking back, Adelade 94 was by far more debatable and I can now look back and yes, I'd call it racing incident.
@@tobiasz6613 driver61 has a video on that incident and he said he doesn't think it was intentional, he thinks that Michaels rear right suspension was damaged (explains his erratic steering inputs on the straight, trying to keep it in a straight line with the car trying to veer to the side) and turning in he didn't have enough control over the car.
@@manuelschurig2266 The thing that hurts Schumacher the most are his actions after Adelaide 94 (so well depicted in this video) which show a certain tendency.
Yah, that would be intense! In 1997 he was as guilty as a puppy sitting next to a pile of poo so there wasn't much he could say about it but 94 was just as blatant
what are you talking about, coulthard admitted in interviews he sloved down on the racing line and was at fault....
I think the worst was him squeezing Barichello almost against the barrier. All that loyalty byebye
I will always enjoy the fact that people expected the 2021 WDC to be decided by a crash because Max is "reckless and agressive", without looking at Michael and Artyon, who had won a WDC with a crashout lol
@windfall He was told to slow down and let Hamilton pass, he did not wildly weave during the slow down in a section that had space for either side and Hamilton was not told until it was too late. If you want to continue with the fact that Max "would so anything to win", this is not a point I would recommend because even though Max was ultimately punished, it seems like it was a lack of communication on Mercedes's end that likely could have avoided the situation.
@@ToxicAWOL I think you need to watch Jeddah again mate, all he was trying to do was crash into Lewis. That whole weekend for him was disgraceful. Marko said Max brake checked Lewis and on the data broke with a force of 2.4g, half of what the cars are capable of.
@@bonifacelukosi9580 Really? Hmm, that is something, how I missed the admission from Marko is beyond me. Thanks for the information I will have to look more into that.
For a seven time WDC, Lewis wasn't using his race smarts. If the car in front of you slows down considerably on the straight. instead of zooming past them, Lewis slows down practically tailgating him. Lewis equally contributed to the situation. Monkey see, monkey do. I would have braked tested his a**. It was all for the DRS line. They were both dumb a**es that race.
@@bonifacelukosi9580 That is taking it out of context. Helmut Marko was referring to a comment made by himself earlier, where he said that he received information from his engineers that Max *technically* did not brake check. With that they meant that Max did not brake hard enough for it to be called a brake test.
That was wrong, he later admitted, because the deceleration was high enough (2.4g) for it to be called a brake test. That is by no means the same as saying Max did it on purpose.
Every driver of Michael’s calibre or level of success has always done something controversial when pushed, at the end of the day, winning is what matters in professional sport, how you got there matters less if not nothing, because most people remember that you won, not how you won. F1 has always been full of complicated and “morally dubious” characters thats for sure.
Too bad certain people are too blind to see that
@@e-money9251 Ill give them the benefit of the doubt, I think it takes some time to understand, and watching a title battle helps you understand it better, I did after the 2021 season.
I think you can take Kimi out of that rule.
@@niplbby0073 the 2021 title battle is a good way to introduce newer fans to the reality of driver’s psychology. Even the knight in shining armor personality will do anything to reach the princess.
Yes, you gotta have some degree of assholeishness to be a champion nowadays and I think that's one of the characteristics Charles misses the most. Exceptions to this rule are not many in the past 3/4 decades... Button, Hakkinen, Hill.
His controversy is definitely enough to discredit and tarnish his sheer dominance a little bit. But almost every genius in F1 is flawed somewhat. Prost with his ability to be political to sway decisions. Senna and his utter ruthlessness(Japan 1990 in particular). Lewis Hamilton and his tangles with rivals (Rosberg and Verstappen(yes, they were both as bad as each other in 2021)). There’s a level of arrogance in most drivers, it’s that absolute desire to win at all costs, and we all have it in us somewhat.
Well said! I definitely agree 🙏🏽
@@MadeByPerspective absolutely love your content man, keeping us all excited for the 2023 season!
I remeber Lewis yielding in Imola and Spain . He decided to change that approach in Silverstone and it was crashes galore from there on😂😂😂
That Senna move in Japan 90 was totally outrageous and would surely grant him a heavy penalty should it happen today.
how come prost political prowess is a flaw?
I wish Ayrton Senna had not been killed because then we would have found out how good Michael really was.
You make the best f1 content out there, keep up the good work!
Thanks Matthew 😄
Excellent video on Schumacher. These aspects of michaels career are severely underlooked and help to build a better picture of all of his success. Doing anything to win including the risks of losing out make him the most supreme driver of them all. I sort of have a problem with this personally because naturally you'd want to win within the boundaries of sporting good-will but sport is at the end of the day just sport!
Not any more its not and hasn't been for years - All sports are a business.
Appreciate it bro thanks for watching
Deliberate crashing into your rivals for WDC is not RACING, it's not hard racing. Intimidating other drivers with the threat of crashing or you being squeezed into the wall or into the gravel. Michael had charm, and he always used it to gloss over any infractions. He should have been disqualified from several WDC. Hopefully, more Schumi fans see this and stop being mental retards who lobotomizied half his career from their recollection. I can accept a complicated and even contradictory heroes, but a flawless individual in a hyper competitive discipline is too much of an ask to look the other way.
And when it becomes dangerous and someone could be killed, is it still just sport?
I never liked Schumacher back in the day. He always gave me the impression of a narcissist. I believe his career was as clean as it was with only this many scandals is because for a good chunk of it, Ferrari was very dominant. With more close races I'm sure we had seen a lot more of these. He was a talented and consistent driver, but also an asshole. At least on the track.
I also believe he pretty much ended Rubens' career making the team neglect him so much, pretty much banning him from ever seriously going hard against Schumacher.
The only man who was able to bend Ferrari to his will. This is the kind of man that is necessary, this is what it takes.
Niki Lauda did it in 1974, and even more so, he did it with Enzo himself there owning the team, and he was no easy man to call out on being wrong...
Alonso was also able to form the entire Ferrari team around him. Niki Lauda complimented him that he had more control than Schumacher did. Ross Brawn and Jean Todt had enormous influence.
Gilles villeneuve
@@JohnFromAccountingNiki Lauda was called ,,The computer” for his natural abilities in developing a car, abilities that had as well Michael Schumacher, Ayrton Senna, Alain Prost, Fernando Alonso and Verstappen
Michael started last in Monaco and finished 5th. Just think about that.
Huge
In fairness being DSQ from the back allowed Ferrari to reset the fuel strategy and made changes to overcut a lot of the field
Also Webber and Kimi DNF that race which gave him 2 additional free places
Still a great drive though but his antics on Saturday wasn’t needed
It was never easy to overtake in Monaco but it seems it's growing increasingly more difficult by the season. Still remember some overtakes at St Devote and at the end of the tunnel... while not easy they happened much more frequently than now.
@@soundscape26 I remember Heidfeld sending it at the chicane on Alonso in 2005, Webber too
Great move
The cars getting wider and longer definitely didnt help around Monaco
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 His antics on Saturday not being needed are why I firmly believe it was a snap judgement decision on his part as opposed to "planned" like everyone makes it out to be. Ross Brawn in particular says he doesn't know why Schumacher felt the need because they had worked out a pit strategy for the race for him to get ahead. I think the pressure got to Michael since he was being sacked by Ferrari in favor of Kimi.
The Michael Jordan comparison is just spot on! Seeing the NBA and Jordan being mentioned in this type of conversation just makes us happy as we are multi-sport content creators. We need more references like this! Amazing video as always.
The comparison is also a bit odd in a way as MJ never cheated nor won with dirty tricks.
@@Zamppa86 It's true, he won it fair and square. But he was in high controversy for a long part of his career.
Don’t think MJ cheated or risked other peoples’ lives
@@Zamppa86he certainly did
@@AETERNVS Both came back from retirement in disappointing fashion too, arguably ruining 2 perfect careers.
He put some of that shumi spirit into litlle max when he was holding him. True legend In every way
EXCELLENT 👍👍🏁
As a Micheal fan, 94 was a tough dilemma, this between my fav driver yet my sense of right and wrong. Again excellent work. 👍🏁🏁
It is unfortunate, that Michael did not leave the door open in Jerez. I'm pretty sure Villeneuve would have gone steaight on into the gravel the way he lunged into that corner...
Amazing Vid man!
Thanks my bro
Honestly, Hill winning the 1994 championship would be such an injustice in terms of who was the better driver that year
I agree the only race that Hill won on pure pace all year honestly was Silverstone and Suzuka
Every other win was due to misfortune by Michael or he was DSQ/wasnt at the race
Two disqualifications and a dubious two race suspension. The FIA were absolutely trying to engineer that title for Hill.
illegal traction controll...................
Hill is the worst driver to win a championship.
This is a terrific warts and all piece. The comparison with MJ and the 'win at all costs' attitude held by both is very apt. Lovely work
1:22 isn’t that flatly incorrect?
I thought the FIA found traction control code on the Benetton ECU, but the team said they were remaining lines of code from the previous seasons. In the end, the FIA couldn’t prove that they Benetton was ever able to engage those lines of code in 94
True. They had launch control in a hidden menu. The FIA couldn’t prove that it was ever used but former Benetton personnel have since revealed that it was used and explained how it worked.
Michael Schumacher is the Goat of F1. No one has ever come close to him in terms of success and probably no one will in the future. Comparing his race wins with Hamilton's, for example, makes no sense because there used to be far fewer races. And Schumacher brought Ferrari back to the top by his own efforts and won 5 titles in a row with them. Something like that is unique and will probably never happen again.
you cant claim noone has come close to him in terms of success when michael and lewis literally have the same 7 world titles.
Senna is the GOAT of F1. Schumacher himself acknowledged that in a interview for Top Gear in 2010. Hamilton did it too.
You have been on a madness these past few weeks mate. Love to see it
Thanks so much i appreciate you watching! 😁
Great video pers, michael was my mums idol and the reason she got into f1, and so the reason ultimately I did too, so I owe everything I love about the sport to him.
Another great video
Thanks Ross!
Imagine toto against Schumi back in the day 🤣🤣🤣
I really like the production of this video and the ambiance in the background namely the foreboding and ominous track. It kind of does a good job of summing up the video in short.
He May not have been the perfect driver but he is was my childhood hero.
I can appreciate now looking back that he was a generational talent but as a boy supporting Damon Hill and Williams, I couldn't forgive him for his shunts in '94 and '97.
I was rooting for Michael in 94 but had to heavily facepalm at what he did there. Damon was quite gracious back then.
@@soundscape26 it really makes you wonder how bad that would have been with today's social media.
Same.
@@BOABModels Considering everyone was expecting Max to crash into Lewis on the last race I doubt it would've been as bad as the daylight robbery. I mean the whole of Brazil says Lewis got robbed.
@@bonifacelukosi9580 ''Try not to mention Lewis Hamilton **HARD**''
Another high quality video,
Good going bud!
Thanks so much! 😄
Well done on this one, a masterpiece
Yeah, the Benetton didn’t have TC just launch control…
And if you think option 13 wasn’t used I have some beautiful sea side land in Arizona for sale
The controversies surrounding the technical legality of the Benetton and the incident in Austria in 2002 can hardly be pinned on him. He neither built the cars nor did he make the tactics at Ferrari. (only probably his own)
And Silverstone 1998 was entirely the fault of the race stewards, who simply failed to issue the penalty in time. In addition, they handed the penalty to Ferrari on a piece of paper that was soaked through and therefore practically impossible to read. There is now enough information material on the subject to be found.
What always annoys me when it involves Michael is that things that actually concern the team are always blamed on him. That's never the case with other drivers. With the exception of Max Verstappen, who has been chosen as F1's new "bad guy" in recent years....
You can't be serious. He drove that bloody Benetton. He knew perfectly well he was driving a car with illegal electronic controls.
And this, exactly this, is why we see so much of Michael in Max Verstappen
Extremely high, yet untrained skill.
Quick but controversial
Both controversial yes, but Max not mean like Micheal used to be from time to time.
Untrained?
@@rosek7114 maybe now, so many years after his debut.. he´s got experience
but at least some seasons ago, he was bad at waiting for the right oppertunities resulting into his (often) crashes, like China with Vettel
Michael demolished the definition of controversial. He was a Trump before Trump. Always trying to get away with it using his charm. The 2002 Austrian GP podium was a farce. The king trying to make the jester wear the garlands, while he trots off with the win and points.
@@amsterdamG2G Mean?
This piece under explains 1994. The FIA did find some old illegal software was still on the Benetton and accessible to the drivers but never proved its use. Some other teams and press assumed guilt, rightly or wrongly, and pressured the FIA to punish Benetton. When Schumacher played mind games with Hill on a formation lap by passing him, he received a penalty that Benetton disputed and served late. A disqualification and two-race ban was objectively a high price to pay, and was considered by some to be either a way to punish for the unproven traction control violation, or a way to cynically let Williams and Hill back into the championship that Schumacher had thus far dominated. Schumacher was also disqualified after winning in Belgium for plank wear. Leading into the final race, both teams had reason to feel aggrieved, and that only added to the pressure going into the fateful corner.
I think Schumacher turned into Hill deliberately, but to be fair to all involved, we have to state that all the punishments received meant he had in four fewer races than Hill to score points in.
I'll just say this......Senna gets a pass for his similar behaviour and incidences compared to Michael.
Why.....because he died in a race thats why.
if you were an F1 fan during Senna's time you'd remember that he wasn't as universally loved as he is now. In fact he had a very similar reputation to Schumacher.
Most Senna fans now only became fans after watching "Senna" on Netflix"
True. Double standards, plain and simple.
Well Senna did Race hard vs Prost but He left him more space at the start/Finish Line than Michael did for Barrichello. Suzuka 1990 was one of the worst title deciders, but Senna had to deal with racism, the backstory of Suzuka 1989 and the fact that FIA fd' Senna with the Pole on the dirty Side of the track. Schumacher didn't had a backstory with Hill and crashed on purpose to win his first World Championship. The only backstory Schumacher had was his infamous DTM Crash and stealing Frentzens girlfriend before F1 Times.
@@marvinblackheart623 pole position was on the dirty side years before.....it didn't just move in 1990
@@twinturbo3470i know but it wasn't fair. And there were other tracks which had the Pole on the good side of the track. That's what Senna was about to convince FIA.
Yesterday I had this conversation with my dad (he's 74, follows F1 since its birth). He is a tifoso.
-What do you think about Raikkonen? (I had just bought a Ferrari 1:24 model, so we escalated talking about F1)
-I always liked him, even tho his personality is weird.
-I heard he was super quick in his McLaren days.
-Yeah, he was the new Hakkinen.. Mika Hakkinen, what a driver. I always loved him because he was a great human and a great sportsman, unlike Schumacher. He always needed to crash in people to win titles.
I think that sums up Michael at his best. He was quite dirty, but incredibely quick.
@@speedmann194 he only apologisef weeks later after the media pressure got so high, ferrari forced him to apologise. before that, he always refused the critics.
@@TravisOtt46 an apology is an apology. It's very rare for any driver to admit guilt. Think hill 95 he took Schumacher out of the lead twice. I also blame hill for Adelaide took Schumacher out 3 times not one apology
@@speedmann194 i respect your opinion. i think these are very subjective topics. in my opinion he went very much over the limits a couple of times, but thats my perspective. the most unsportve move was monaco 2006. just cheated on purpose without the heat of the racing stuff.
@@TravisOtt46 I respect your opinion as-well
But I too have a different perspective on Monaco. If he did it on purpose I'm not 100% sure I believe to convict a man you need to be 100% sure, This is why many countries abolished the death penalty, because it's very hard to be 100% sure, Jerez 97 Schumacher couldn't deny it, It was there for the whole world to see. Monaco though I believe he was treated unfairly. I agree with Mark Webber when asked if he did it on purpose. mark replied
"we know his got a lot of tricks" but if this was one of them, I guess we have to wait till his about 60 and has a couple of glasses of the old red inside him. I think mark said it perfectly. "We don't know", so if we don't know, we shouldn't be convicting the man
Then it goes to show how little he knows. Michael only won ONE of his titles when a collision was involved, and that was Hill's fault, not his (by Hill's own admission!). ONE of SEVEN. And that was despite Hill divebombing him multiple times in 1995, too.
Basically in F1 the best always are in controversies or scandals. Schumacher, Hamilton, Alonso, Verstappen, Vettel for the drivers and Ron Dennis, Todt, Wolff, Briatore, Horner for team principles. It's the nature of the sport and it what ultimately makes it so good
I rather think that the most successful are also those that often are willing to do dirty things to accomplish their goals. The question is always where are lines drawn and are those involved being caught or not. You can only be punished if you're actually caught cheating.
Look at how many successful athletes have been caught doping. And now think how many have done it and haven't been caught.
I love how people try to downplay Schumachers cheating by saying "yeah well theres been other contrversial moments"
@josh w-g, problem with schumi fans, half forget his crappy side and go on about their perfect hero is a God among boys.
I don't recall Lewis breaking any rules
@@bonifacelukosi9580 Then you have a bad memory. Did you already forget that nice little incident between Verstappen and Hamilton in Silverstone 2021? Here a quick reminder: /watch?v=oIKel6jVD3Q
Hamilton is just as dirty on the track as Schumacher when it comes down to trying to win a race. And btw. Verstappen is the same. They all try to get an advantage however they can get away with it.
I’m loving this series. ❤
Schumacher was the greatest driver of his era, but the controversies around his career mean I can never place him as high on my F1 pantheon as I do some of the other greats.
I firmly believe 1994 was a racing incident and that in 1997 because 1994 was a racing incident he thought he could try make 1997 look like one too.
1997 is completely ridiculous by MSC. JV was out breaking himself and heading into the gravel. MSCs hit on him literally helped JV make the corner!
1994 It wasn’t. It was proven from video that he knew the Benetton was damaged beyond finishing and it was his only chance to crash out Hill.
No, there are deliberate steering input graphics towards Damon available. Harsh but honest, he wanted to win at all cost.
@@davorinskvaridlo3567 Hill should have waited and attacked after this corner. There was no space for him. He made a judgement mistake, and crashed into the car that was in front. If there is any blame, it's only Hill fault. His front wheel hit the middle of the other car. Even by much stricter 2022 regs, it's fully the car behind that is responsible.
1st stage, denial.
@@josvercaemer264 I wonder how one can make out deliberate steering to close the door on a twisty & narrow track vs eliminating an opponent. 1997 is an obvious and disgusting attempt from Michael, 1994 not so. It could be made with the same intent or it couldn't. In which case, he should get the benefit of the doubt for that.
Either way, with 12 races (twice the FIA excluded him, +2 races penalty) vs Hill's 16, he deserved that WDC. Damon didn't. The only caveat being option 13.
The 1994 championship was artificially kept competitive. Schumacher was penalized 4 races, for things that are not common. Silverstone, disqualified for overtaking on the warm-up lap, paid a 5-second stop and go penalty and was later disqualified. Belgium, was disqualified for having exceeded the wear on the bottom of the car, even though Beneton proved that this wear was caused by a passage over the correctors. 2 more races in which he did not participate due to a penalty for the events of the Silverstone race.
Most of these events came from a race in England where it was an English rider who was fighting for the title, Damon Hill...
Schumacher always complied with the existing rules and many of them were changed after incidents involving Schumacher...
1994 shouldn't have been close. The Williams was the best car by far. Senna would never have let Schumacher get in a position to win the title.
To be honest I wasn't an F1 fan until I watched the official 94 and 95 F1 season reviews and I found them gripping. Not just the on track action, but the off tracks goings on and the different personalities of the drivers. Schumacher seemed a contradiction. He seemed quite pleasant in interviews, but immensely motivated to win
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Michael Schumacher is a driver that will do anything to win. His mentality is "I am going to cross over that finish line regardless of what I do". People can say all they want about him being a cheater or dirty driver, the fact remains that he will be remembered as one of the greatest F1 drivers in history. Then again, if you look at the best drivers in F1 like Prost and Senna, they arent all perfect. They do things to maximize their chances of winning races and championship.
Häkkinen was really the only one who got pretty respectful racing from the michael for few years. Häkkinen still often called him out on his reckless style especially in spa 2000
1997 is perhaps the only season when neither of the championship contenders shared a podium finish
As a fan who didn’t get to see much early on 70s, 80s, 90s, etc nut follows closely now, no one can crap on Schumi without saying the same about many other champions. Senna wasn’t perfect either, probably my favorite of all time though.
great video
I think there is quite a simplistic explanation available:
FXD, and Jost Capito, recently criticised Alex Albon for "being too nice" and how FXD would have to shout at him, "You need to be an asshole if you want to be a world champion!" That's coming from someone who worked with the second most dominant WRC champion ever, Sebastien Ogier. I think Michael Schumacher understood this very well to the same extent: You have to be an asshole if you want to be a champion. The "nice guys" who won titles, especially more than one, are far outnumbered by the assholes.
Also, small correction for Silverstone 1998, the FIA have always acknowledged that the race stewards were the ones at fault as they were far too late and unofficial in issuing and clarifying the penalty. The literally handed a piece of paper to the Ferrari pitwall. I believe those stewards were dismissed.
The part that champions are not nice people is true. They have to be ruthless and selfish.
I dont think it was (or is by anyone) a conscious choice by Schumacher. He was born this way mostly and grown up to be more like it doing racing most of his life.
Button is the latest example of a nice guy winning a title. Needed a very dominant car and a nice guy teammate to pull it off.
3:19 Say it with me, fam….
“That didn’t work. That didn’t work, Michael… You’ve hit the wrong part of him, friend!”
Small correction to the Benetton 1994 traction control case. The FIA found that the engine management software contained traction control, but they could not prove that it was used in a race. Benetton claimed that it was inactive when racing.
Everyone Highlights Schumacher and Benetton for 94 and AUS GP, but no one highlights other facts as well, Schmi/Benetton was Disq. For 2 races and 1 race for no points in 94 as well, clearly big names in F1 was fueling FIA to take those decisions
If Schumi had advantage in 94 for some illegal parts then what about his dominamce in 95 with the same Car and Also how he manged to challenge Prost/Senna and other drivers in 92 & 93 when Schumi/benetton doesnt even have pedal shifts ?
If you listen to Beyond The Grid interview with Ross Braun, he said MSC was 100% convinced that JV ran into him... until he saw the replay.
At the 98 BGP, MSC did not make that decision, Braun made that call. To the rules, Ferrari was legal.
In the aforementioned podcast, Braun admitted the biggest mistake that day was not telling MSC that he didn't need the pole to win Monaco.
Ricky Bobby : "If you ain't first you're last."
Michael Schumacher : "Ja."
5:46 Rubens said in a Brazilian podcast that he was told, for many laps, to let Michael pass. He refused time and time again, until, I quote “I heard something I wouldn’t like to hear”. Presumably that he would be fired. So he said, I will do it at the last lap so the world can see what is going on. He said that 99% of people in a fragile job position, hearing what he heard, would do the same. He cited the radio transcript that he had previously showed to one of the podcasters, a longtime friend, that confirmed it. In this case, a dirty and unnecessary tactic of Ferrari to show Michael’s brilliance, but he didn’t need that, in my opinion. He was brilliant on his own. That did tarnish his rep… and made Rubens look like a fool, which he was not.
Rubens wasn't going to win the season anyway, and Ferrari was faster than McLaren, so I really don't understand why they sabotaged Rubens.
Michael could have refused to pass Reubens. No way on earth Ferrari would've fired him.
@@marcuswilliams6840 Yeah, and after he took the win he plays for the cameras how he did not want the win LOL
In the official F1 podcast he said that they read out his contract over the radio and he kinda nervously laughed it off when asked about having his family threatened. If you think about how irrelevant this position change was in the championship and still how serious they went about it.....what can happen there when the room is on fire?
@@marcuswilliams6840 Michael did slow down as Rubens was allowing him to pass. You can see it on the cam footage. Rubens brakes and Michael lifts, confused. I am pretty certain Michael didn't know that Rubens was being told to let him pass.
What timing of this vid just came out of a exam
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I know that people at the time thought of Michael Schumacher as a win at all costs driver, but I've always felt that he has nothing on the embodiment of Chaotic Evil (based on the D&D alignment chart) in F1, Ayrton Senna de Silva.
As for the 1998 British Grand Prix, I don't really consider it as a Schumacher controversy per se, more a stewarding controversy. The offence for which he was given the penalty, overtaking before the start finish line at the Safety Car restart, took place some time before the incident was actually investigated. So long in fact, that due to the Stewards dithering, the penalty was in effect null and void. If that wasn't enough, not only was the wrong penalty given (it should have been the equivalent of a 10 second stop/go penalty, ~30 seconds added to his race time, rather than a stop/go as there were 3 laps to go when the sanction was given to Ferrari), but it wasn't even displayed on the official timing screens.
So bad was the Stewards blundering that day, that they ended up being forced to hand their licences over, as ITV F1 explained in the buildup qualifying for the first race after the World Motorsport Council hearing about the British Grand Prix:
"The World Motorsport Council met earlier this week to discuss the British Grand Prix. It was good news for Michael Schumacher, who's win was made official, but bad news for the 5 Stewards of the meeting who've now surrendered their licences,"
He tried to crowd that rock in the Alps, but the rock wasn't moving.
The way he thought - the brilliant mind he has is what made him such a great driver. He’s the champion today because of his talents on the track and his intelligence.
The move in Hungary made me really question the mental state of Schumacher. That was insanely dangerous.
Well. He moved right before barichello moved right.i am not even sure if schumacher is at fault here.
@@krmx37 My opinion of the incident was always that Rubens knew exactly what he was doing. As you say, Michael moved towards the wall very early and closed the door. Rubens still went for it. And as a former teammate, he knew Michael very well....
tbf, Ferrari isn't known to have much patience with their drivers if they aren't winning the championship for them. I definitely think there was a lot of pressure on him that day. Also Villeneuve was playing mind games with Michael which he had never experience in F1 before. Leclerc is a big exception tho, he gets treated like the kid you dropped once to many so you feel so bad that it becomes your favourite child 😬
Get ready for some next level whataboutism and excuses in this comment section.
Great driver, great family man, terrible sportsman.
Spot on
8:50 idk if everyone has ever seen that interview of Michael.
The interviewer asks him: “have you ever been wrong?”
He looks up at the ceiling and thinks about it for a second, and then looks back down and says: “No, I don’t think so.”
Lol, the way he says it let’s you know he really believes that lol.
Idk when it was, but pretty sure it was relatively early at Ferrari.
Before F1, apparently he clipped away Dumfries Jaguar's front end at the 1991 Nurburgring race as an act of revenge
if youre going to discuss austria 2002, you have yo mention Indianapolis
Schumacher had nothing to do at Indianapolis, it was michelin's fault for making a tyre that couldn't stand the banking corners.
No fault of his own there.
@@ChristopherBuenviaje Schumacher let through Barichello for the win at Indianapolis, he returned the favor for Austria.
@@ChristopherBuenviaje I think they probably meant Indianapolis 2002 when Schumacher tried to "return the favor" by slowing down just enough for Rubens to win.
@Staichillo Oh yeah, that one too. Its actually stupid for him to do that granted they had a monster of a car in 2002.
The fact that he got to keep his 1994 title is completely insane, if I was damon I'd have been a lot more furious than he came across.
Please reply to this you can't compare Micheal jordan and shumi jordan never cheated the rules shumi did
As most of the comments mention, all greats have a dark side that comes with the will to win at any cost but where Michael differs for me is the calculated way he consciously made those decisions. This makes it much harder for me to brush his 'mistakes' under the rug, something about about him just rubs me the wrong way...
thats his psychopathy you were detecting, thats what rubs you the wrong way
The one time Alonso was up to no good was in Hungary 2007 after Hamilton tried to ruin his qualifying by breaking team protocol and sabotaging the strategy. He waited in the pitlane for precisely the right amount of time so that he could commence his flying lap, but Hamilton was only just too slow to start his own. He was so precise and calm about it.
Did he consciously make those desicions, or did he have a momentary lapse of judgement and forget to run his impulses through conscious calculation? I'm not saying what he did was fine, but I'm not sure I believe it was premeditated or calculated. I believe his feroucious racing instinct got the better of him at times.
I remember Brawn explaining how Schumacher was convinced Jerez -97 was Villeneuves fault until they showed him the replays. He still didn’t admit fault - at least not publically - but he accepted responsibility. The press conference after he was disqualified for -97 and how he worded his 'apology' is quite interesting.
controversy throughout his career answers your question. These are not lapses. Even if he comes up with an action within minutes before executing it, he has calculated the risks/rewards. He has a high IQ, but he also has charm. Between the two characteristics, you can get away/be forgiven very easily.
What makes you think these were all conscious and calculated decisions? That's just stupid...
there is another video on youtube, that explains some mistery about 94 Benetton traction control. Basically it's never back or white. Just search for driver61 briatore. There is a part of video when former Benetton technician explains it.
Schumacher, Verstappen, Alonso… All cut from the same cloth… All GOATS
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Alonso and Verstappen are probably the most talented drivers ever to race in F1.
@@JohnFromAccounting Damn, Verstappen is great but he's already more talented than every F1 driver ever apart from Alonso? That's recency bias on steroids.
versteppen asdfasdfsafas. none of those drivers relied on a mis judged call from a race director in order to win a championship so he was no to be uttered among those names
way too early to say Verstappen imo
You need sacrifices in order to achieve something big
The 1997 incident was clearly Jacques fault he literally torpedo Michael he was half a car behind and missed corner lol
I would say Schumacher loved a high risk high reward scenario always.
I always thought the reaction to Austria 2002 was excessive. Sure, it was in a season so dominant, it looked unnecessary to tell Barrichello to move over. But it was the 6th race of the season. Schumacher's gap to #2 Montoya would be 27 points after this race. Had Schumacher not won, the gap would've been 24 points - with 10 given for a race win at the time - with 11 races to go. Seems large enough right? But let's take a look at the 2000 season, the 2000 Canadian Grand Prix to be exact. It was the 8th race of the season and it ended in a Schumacher-led Ferrari 1-2, with Benetton's Fisichella rounding off the podium. The result saw Schumacher extend his gap to Hakkinen to 24 points, with 9 races to go. The same lead Schumacher would've had without the Austria-team orders. Why am I mentioning 2000? Because only three races later, Schumacher's lead would be two points on both Coulthard and Hakkinen and ten points on Barrichello. Schumacher would go on to lose the lead of the championship the next race (Hungary) and fall further behind after race #5 after Canada: Belgium (6 points behind Hakkinen). The point is that Ferrari very recently saw a 24-point lead evaporate in no time at all, at a later point in the season. Montoya drove for Williams, who had already won a race that season. You can very easily say that the Ferrari team-order at the 2002 Austrian Grand Prix was fully justified.
And the subsequent ban on team orders was laughably reactionary as well.
My hero, my icon, my GOAT! Forever Schumi. Dropped a Michael Schumacher docu on my channel which I made myself. I miss you.. Keep Fighting Michael!
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@@Fredhamnewey absolutely childish comment
@@user-ck7jv1hn8k he was 43 years old in a car that was literally the opposite of his driving style. he also took a 5 year break before that mate
A true champion knows the technical rules in & out & will always always push it as far as 1 can, to maintain the mental & physical competitive edge, over fellow competitors & adjudicators within the sport.
You're joking, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
I think you're mistaking Michael for Fernando.
@@bonifacelukosi9580 Not him / them specifically - but any1 who has been /is #1 in any discipline, where every single moment is spent striving to maintain & better performance / abilities. Endless loop, cos you surpass & extend the ceiling all the time - in the end you "compete" against yourself when the opposition is 2 steps behind.
@@djcraigtm no way you're not joking 💀
Fernando pushes to the limit, but races fair. There has never been a time where Fernando intentionally crashes out his competition. Schumacher would do anything to win, even if it was unfair or dangerous.
Whoever thinks that MSC doesn't deserves the 1994 title knows only how that incident in the Australia GP. And doesn't not know that MSC was not allowed to race in 2 races after getting an already hefty penalty of disqualification in the cursed GP of Silverstone.
I think to use a football analogy, you might get a few red cards, maybe even a few scandals but that doesn’t stop you being an all time legend. Maradona, Keane, Vierra, Gascoigne spring to mind.
Some might call what Schumi did analogous to Maradona's " hand of God" incident to use your futbol analogy. Where Marodona did it once, Schumi did it several times along with other stunts. He could be considered a dirty driver. With his collective offenses. He should have sat out a full season. He should only be a 5-time WDC. If a driver was a 50/50 wins/DNF in a season, and half of those DNFS is driver error, would you consider them to be a great driver? By win %, very few teams would turn them down to drive as long as the DNFS repair costs didn't exceed Bonus prize money at the end of season. In some years, there is a good chance they could even win a WDC title or two, depending on how bad of a car his rivals may have. Oversimplifing the behavior or actions of the individual belittle the rules and more importantly, the "spirit of the rules" as they only exist for the other guy to follow.
@@WH0oo... you’re right that was the incident I had in mind and it was a flimsy analogy at best. I do agree that, while I’m not the biggest fan, Lewis will always have better rapport in that regard. And I was always a mclaren (Hakkinen) supporter (or basically anyone after who posed a threat to Schumacher). But I think his rivalry with Hakkinen is one of the best and most respectful in history which I think speaks more to how he viewed his opponents and thus how he treated them on track. Doesn’t justify anything he did but shows he wasn’t entirely ruthless.
Let's face it, every great driver is actually pretty dirty. Just some are able to hide it better than others
Could not be better said. Shumi just had some bigger ones 😂 I’m a Shumi fan and will always consider him the goat despite his controversy.
You cannot keep everyone happy
You cannot move up the ladder without making a few enemies
That's the cost to be the GOAT
What’s with the ps2 Manhunt censoring effects all over the video
Lmao that’s why it cracks me up when people say max’s title will be tainted forever. Schumacher was involved in so much more controversy but his legacy is second to none
Are you telling me that a man just happens to crash like that? No he orchestrated it!
Schumacher won his championships in a far more competitive grid than today, makes his titles worth more in my opinion
An interesting video, spoiled by the over use of effects to make the footage look old. So much that in places it's barely watchable. There's no need for this, just give us clean video please.
I'm not referring to any particular driver or team but there is a difference between bending the rules (as there are always 'grey areas' that the teams exploit) and downright blatant cheating
u forgot the secret launch control and maybe TC option also....for the launch control at 1994 is proves...also i think sometning happen at spa also at 94
Its impossible to be so driven and never make a bonehead move once or twice.
This isn't so much about that. It's the 50% Schumi fans believe the guy was not a fu** up and didn't cheat through out his career. And what a God among boys he is.
I disagree. I thinks it’s more about showing what it takes to be great due to the MJ comparison. Senna, Prost, Max, and Hamilton all have had their share of questionable moments because every one of them will do what it takes to win. Some just have different lines than others
Crazy how many people LOVE this guy but hate drivers now that are even a fraction as aggressive as him.
A controversial figure for sure easily on the mount Rushmore of drivers tho
1994 option 13 with Benneton, there was banned software found and it couldn’t be proved it had been used… so there is more to it and it’s quite interesting
Adelade 94 hurt 12 year old me so bad. It's the primary reason I can never love MIchael. BUT his talent, achievments and approach deserve proper respect. I'll admit I hated him and Ferrari through the dominance years, but I was younger then and the fullness of time has given him the proper perspective. Also by the same token that MIchael was great but some will never forgive his errors, it's not fair to airbrush Senna or Hamilton for example who both had more than a fair old streak of ruthlessness.
When has Lewis trying to break the rules tho?
@@bonifacelukosi9580 I'm sure the Lewis haters will be able to fill you in, but there was plenty of very on the edge stuff from Lewis, particually in his younger days, certainly not shy of contact, made moves plenty thought were dangerous at the time, the mclaren and lewis telling porkies to the stweards incident, the spygate drama. No, it's not exactly the same but the point is most great drivers will have had their moments as the baddie. I do say all that as Lewis fan since his GP2 days.
@@tobiasz6613 True is Mclaren stint was pretty rough but as soon as he moved to merc all of that stopped and people have to go back a couple years to think of anything bad about him.
1:22 They had traction control in some "legal" way, Driver61 had an interview with one of Benetton engineers at the the time that explains how they did circumvent the banning of the traction control.
Michael and max are the same type of driver.
Dale earnhardt Sr in nascar had a similar ruthlessness to him. When he first started racing, he was so poor that if he didn't win, his family couldn't eat so he acquired a very dirty driving style
Oh My God that 2006 Ferarri was Gorgeous! 6:56
there is a video of @driver61 where the benetton engineer of 1994 exlpain how they achieved the traction control, therefore this is no more a conspiracy.