I want to say in the old days carrying weapons was outlawed if you were not samurai. At the time the Ryu Kyu had a reputation for being a pirates haven.
My two cents of educated guess is that this configuration was attempt to make nunchaku even more compact to carry without sacrificing reach. This thing certainly causes enough damage to seriously deter anyone equally equipped. Broken nose or knocked off/broken teeth are serious distractions. Of course armored warrior with plate mail and helmet will barrel through it. It would be interesting to see how dangerous really heavy nunchaku made from thick-walled steel pipe filled with concrete and linked with strong chain would actually be. My guess is that it would not knock someone's head - it would shatter it.
Agreed, that's the point of this design. Meanwhile street fighters did use steel (not filled though). One hit and it's over with those IMO. Filled? Yeah- head instantly obliterated.
Hi there! Thank you for mentioning and showing my San setsukon video! I appreciate the compliment! I will do a response video on the shorter as well as the asymmetrical 3 section one as well! Always enjoy your weapon videos and glad you enjoy mine! Also look for your 4 section staff - Yon setsu kon video!
Nice info. I Build them in my kobudo shop. The reason for the configuration is for the impact. It recreates the wip configuration. Like you said it is also more portable.
Great video! Great Nunchucks!... I always thought Nunchucks where first developed and used by police on Okinawa as a disarming type weapon in the late 1700 early 1800s maybe I got that confused with another weapon
Definitely want to. I like doing hands on work with real versions of the weapon (preferably antiques) so that's a real challenge for that subject. If my channel ever makes enough income to purchase stuff, I'll order a recreation macuahuitl and try it out.
It feels whippier overall but the control is pretty much the same. Surprisingly so in fact. Swinging it's almost the same weapon, grappling it feels significantly different. You lose that nutcracker vise feel.
I don't know... It is portable, no doubt about that, but i'm not so eure about the force of impact or defensive capabilities. Looks like a one-hit hidden offensive weapon and the speed must be pretty high to inflict some damage.
Nunchuks are horse bridels each stick was wrapped round nose/MUZZLE and the 3 section weapon is Chinese ont Okinawan it was brought to Okinawa by the Chinese
Thanks, excellent information, I know that in Matayoshi Kobudo, they call it Tan Sansetsukon and they perform the Sansetsukon Dai San kata, but I can't find a video of this kata. Hopefully we can find it to understand the use and movements.
@@ObjectHistory There are at least two photographs (taken during the same session) showing Shinpo Matayoshi posing with this exact short San Setsu Kon. They're in a 2011 book (Kobudo, les armes d'Okinawa / Kobudo, the Weapons of Okinawa) by French author Roland Habersetzer, but I've been unable to find the photographs online after a cursory Google search... Shimpo Matayoshi definitely had a go at this weapon but if many of his students used it is of course another story.
@@ObjectHistory Found the photo on CZcams. Search for this video: 【真伝】琉球王朝時代の武術 第１７話 三節棍術の技法 秘器：懐三節棍 【龍ケ崎光道館】 and you you'll see the image of Matayoshi Shimpo holding the short San Setsu Kon at 0 min 48 sec. The sensei in the video says the image was taken in the late 1960s in the Philippines where Matayoshi was teaching at the time.
Without question they would be. I absolutely love the feel of wooden weapons in the hand but that material was used by the common man because it was so readily available and no highly specialized skills (metallurgy, smithing) were required.
@@ObjectHistory groovy, that does make sense though that this would have been the working folks grab and go and thus wouldn't have been made from metal due to expense
@@ObjectHistory Also saw an image about one with four regularly long handles. Looked quite thick when folded, but ridiculously long when extended. As in about as long as jo (short staff of about 120 cm or four feet) is or even longer.
Yeah, of course at the rate my videos 'make money' it would take like two years for the video on it to make the money back LOL. But still, I'll add the idea to my list.
Great & informative video, thank you for creating and posting!
I want to say in the old days carrying weapons was outlawed if you were not samurai. At the time the Ryu Kyu had a reputation for being a pirates haven.
Good point. Okinawa was a hidden weapon haven so a miniature chuck set makes sense.
My two cents of educated guess is that this configuration was attempt to make nunchaku even more compact to carry without sacrificing reach. This thing certainly causes enough damage to seriously deter anyone equally equipped. Broken nose or knocked off/broken teeth are serious distractions. Of course armored warrior with plate mail and helmet will barrel through it.
It would be interesting to see how dangerous really heavy nunchaku made from thick-walled steel pipe filled with concrete and linked with strong chain would actually be. My guess is that it would not knock someone's head - it would shatter it.
Agreed, that's the point of this design. Meanwhile street fighters did use steel (not filled though). One hit and it's over with those IMO. Filled? Yeah- head instantly obliterated.
Very nice chucks also would love to see a video on some history on the apache thorn one day!
Thanks. I review every Native instrument I get to hold but it's a random mix. Apache are a fascinating warrior culture.
Hi there! Thank you for mentioning and showing my San setsukon video! I appreciate the compliment! I will do a response video on the shorter as well as the asymmetrical 3 section one as well! Always enjoy your weapon videos and glad you enjoy mine! Also look for your 4 section staff - Yon setsu kon video!
Hey there, well met and great to hear from you. Can't wait to see those videos Joe.
Nice info. I Build them in my kobudo shop. The reason for the configuration is for the impact. It recreates the wip configuration. Like you said it is also more portable.
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Great video! Great Nunchucks!... I always thought Nunchucks where first developed and used by police on Okinawa as a disarming type weapon in the late 1700 early 1800s maybe I got that confused with another weapon
There's no hard evidence as far as I know. I've always read and heard that the sai was the main police weapon on Okinawa.
@@ObjectHistory yeah the sai sounds right I must of got it mixed up
Amazing i search for Information about this weapon for so long
That's great to read. I do like providing info not easily found elsewhere, with these videos and in my books.
The idea of chisai sansetsukon, or sansetsu chaku is concealment. I own two of these, one made out of NYLON ROD and the other of G.I. Pipe.
Very cool
Can you talk about mexica people and their weapons
Definitely want to. I like doing hands on work with real versions of the weapon (preferably antiques) so that's a real challenge for that subject. If my channel ever makes enough income to purchase stuff, I'll order a recreation macuahuitl and try it out.
How does the controllability compare to two short sicks and a long cord to make up the same total length?
It feels whippier overall but the control is pretty much the same. Surprisingly so in fact. Swinging it's almost the same weapon, grappling it feels significantly different. You lose that nutcracker vise feel.
I don't know... It is portable, no doubt about that, but i'm not so eure about the force of impact or defensive capabilities. Looks like a one-hit hidden offensive weapon and the speed must be pretty high to inflict some damage.
At the dimensions this one is at, agree completely
Nunchuks are horse bridels each stick was wrapped round nose/MUZZLE and the 3 section weapon is Chinese ont Okinawan it was brought to Okinawa by the Chinese
Thanks, excellent information, I know that in Matayoshi Kobudo, they call it Tan Sansetsukon and they perform the Sansetsukon Dai San kata, but I can't find a video of this kata. Hopefully we can find it to understand the use and movements.
If I'm remembering correctly, and I might not be, I've only seen Matayhoshi guys using the full size three section staff.
@@ObjectHistory There are at least two photographs (taken during the same session) showing Shinpo Matayoshi posing with this exact short San Setsu Kon.
They're in a 2011 book (Kobudo, les armes d'Okinawa / Kobudo, the Weapons of Okinawa) by French author Roland Habersetzer, but I've been unable to find the photographs online after a cursory Google search...
Shimpo Matayoshi definitely had a go at this weapon but if many of his students used it is of course another story.
@@ObjectHistory Found the photo on CZcams.
Search for this video:
【真伝】琉球王朝時代の武術 第１７話 三節棍術の技法 秘器：懐三節棍 【龍ケ崎光道館】
and you you'll see the image of Matayoshi Shimpo holding the short San Setsu Kon at 0 min 48 sec.
The sensei in the video says the image was taken in the late 1960s in the Philippines where Matayoshi was teaching at the time.
czcams.com/video/il6K_guku9o/video.html
These are fascinating from the concept these are the common folks EDC of their day. Would they be more efficacious in metal?
Without question they would be. I absolutely love the feel of wooden weapons in the hand but that material was used by the common man because it was so readily available and no highly specialized skills (metallurgy, smithing) were required.
@@ObjectHistory groovy, that does make sense though that this would have been the working folks grab and go and thus wouldn't have been made from metal due to expense
I once saw a version with very short rope and 4 segments. Would it be more or less effective?
To complete my survey I need to get a set like that. There's one modern maker who offers them. That one is the biggest mystery of them all.
Also version with going like long-short-short-long when handles are looked.
@@vksasdgaming9472 That's the one kind I haven't handled and the hardest to understand from a design standpoint.
@@ObjectHistory Also saw an image about one with four regularly long handles. Looked quite thick when folded, but ridiculously long when extended. As in about as long as jo (short staff of about 120 cm or four feet) is or even longer.
@@vksasdgaming9472 Hm, can't say I've seen that before.
For a quick and cheap episode: how about looking at BUDK brand flat sap? Always wondered what could such a cheap price produce.
Yeah, of course at the rate my videos 'make money' it would take like two years for the video on it to make the money back LOL. But still, I'll add the idea to my list.
@@ObjectHistory diesineveryfilm just made a replica of a british springneck cosh,you may like it.
I made one …. It was worth it
Cool