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- If you are familiar with martial arts, then you would have heard about Eskrima and Iaido. These are two commonly known martial arts within the martial arts circle. In this video, we'll be exploring their history, their primary objectives and conclude by giving our opinion on which of these two martial arts we believe is better. Watch through to the end to find out what we think.
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Thanks for watching guys! Eskrima or Iaido, which martial art are you choosing?
cool
what is this
Both!
Black Eagle Eskrima, for sure!
Pencak Silat vs Savate
I was intrigued to see how such a fight might be carried out, and now I see it wasn't.
Same, still an informative video!
This. Got my dv because of it.
I feel bated. Having performed both of these arts, wanted to see interaction.
They were true masters, they didn't even have to fight to realize who was going to win. =p
Classic clickbait stealing uncredited footage from others
From a professional stand point I’d probably I’d probably choose escrima since it has more day to day options for defense. As a fan boy I’ve always loved the katana thanks to a healthy upbringing of low budget 80’s action movies and cartoons and would probably jump on lessons strictly from a curiosity stand point!
@Darren Harper some of the movements for escrima can be adapted for blade use but I highly doubt my police chief would like me using a machete instead of a baton!
fma generally
@Darren Harper some fma styles are more aggressive than others. I find that the lsai (lightning scientific arnis international) prioritizes fast and powerful consecutive strikes so the training is usually repetition of simple strikes until you're able to string them together.
@Darren Harper its not the weapon you use, it's how good, determined, skilled, fast, balanced, and discipline you are.
@Darren Harper we also use blades aside from sticks.
I'm preparing for my black belt test in iaido, and grew up in the Philippines where I learned eskrima (we called it "arnis de mano") from my father, who learned it from his elders who used it in combat against the Japanese in World War 2. I can tell you that iaido (pronounced ee-yai-doh) is more of a meditative exercise, whereas eskrima/arnis de mano/kali are practical martial arts in every sense of the word. Battojutsu and its umbrella martial art kenjutsu are martial arts -- although perhaps not as practical today as it was in samurai Japan.
More of a sword fight
It’s been a month how did the test go?
Did you get your black belt?
Good information. Just to add to it, the term battojutsu was used more often when tachi were still in common use. It still survives in pop culture in anime and manga. The commonly used term for the combat version of iaido is iaijutsu. Good correction on his pronunciation of iaido. He mispronounced the Japanese words throughout the video. He also confused kata with waza, but a lot of people do.
It's been 3 months. How did your test go?
As a Filipino of course I prefer arnis or eskrima although I played karate as an amateur during my college days. However, I discovered that real or traditional arnis is not a defensive martial art but an offensive one. It's a battle of techniques or combinations.
Out of curiosity what is your opinion on Wing Chun butterfly knives (not the Balisong)
Traditional karate is the same. Those are not blocks, they are nerve strikes against an opponent.
Played is the correct word. You played, some others developed skills.
@@wyattguilliams5325
I would say that the butterfly swords techiques blend in very well with escrima, ,you just have to adjust for the width of the blade to prevent self injury, both styles work well for travelers since you would only have to buy 2 machetes on landing at your destination.
Arnis is great- you get yourself up to "Stick speed" and you have a feel for where your adversary's body is in space. Then you learn defang the snake and you are good to go. Your more advanced arnis players start striking at the hands and arms instead of the stick....
No matter how effective the style, it still depends on the skill of the practitioner
It is originally indian
@@kasbadebbarma8570 developed and evolved in the Philippines. In fact modern masters have developed their own systems that is now unique to the Philippines.
You Indians didn't do S***t. Just like Kung Fu.
I concur, like which gun is better, take the person who most skilled with which ever weapon is present. It will always be the person. 👍
And their heart. Not for the fearful.
When I was very young, I lived in the Philippines, and my dad bought home a small display of various miniature knives of the country. There must have been well over a dozen different shaped knives, from almost straight to waved-shaped blades bending up and down.
Ah...the classic "weapons of moroland" plaque? 👍
Haha I read this while looking at mine I wonder how many they've made. "Weapons of moroland"
The wavy ones are known as Kris
@@kakashihatake326 or keris
I would choose Escrima since the techniques can be applied not only to a pair of sticks or batons but also to a pair of swords, machetes or dagger /knife combination with the before mentioned weapons as well that the Escrima techniques can be applied to empty hand combat. Iaido is more weapon specific and more dependent on having a katana available for its use (nevertheless I would choose to learn also Iaido in order to diversify my martial arts knowledge 🤷)
Not to mention Iaido is more of a technique or small set of techniques than a comprehensive Martial Arts
And then practicing Escrima with katana's... wow...
Again two different terms Jutsu and Do, I practice the Jutsu form of Iai and can tell you with Katana, Wakizashi, tanto, or Yari I give you a 60% chance of surving the encounter.
From my experience of Arnis/Eskrima.
We start by doing foot work first, then hand moves, then minimal hand to hand sparring to get used to an opponent, then we move on to sticks with footwork again, then translating the hand moves to stick movements, then minimal sparring again.
Then since we were just teens back then in Senior Highschool the teacher didn't move on to knives but demonstrated it.
Nice
no such thing as which style is better ...it's who knows themselves more and expresses themselves honestly which should be most important.
- My Favourite Ronin
I agree there is no style is better, remember all roads lead to Rome, how you get there ( style) is what important ☯️
I’ve won shadow sparing with everybody but only 1 i cant win my teacher in Escrima who i called the God of body Control
-Bruce Lee-
Agreed, it's the best trained person who will win, not the art. 👍
@@55Quirll not correct. someone who is only trained in the best of wrestling compared to someone who is trained in the best of wrestling, the best of jujutsu, the best of escrima, the one who is only well trained in wrestling will have a far smaller chance of winning the fight.
@@pakhomioshavel8781 It is how good you are in that art, it's not the style that wins the fight, it's the person who wins the fight.
Dont know much of iaido, cant comment. But i know from personal experience in the service is that 1/3 of Navy SEAL hand to hand is based on Kali, 1/4 of Marine Corps MCMAP is based on it, 1/2 of the Spetsnaz GRU is based on it and I believe a chunk of SAS elite unit hand to hand is Kali based. These are units that are in combat environments that can go bad VERY fast, needing a tactical close and effective end to the situation. So in modern time id say any of the filipino arts variations.
I call B.S
"personal experience in the Service"
you trained these arts with the seals, Marines and Spetsnaz ? hahaha
In other words, everyone trains the same.
@@bartfart3847 not sure why: he didn’t say he had trained in all of those services. He claimed he had personal experience in the military and that this was a common denominator in those special forces fighting training.
It may indeed be BS. But based on what are you saying that? Do you have evidence that this is not true? I would accept this, but based on what do you make this assertion. I had heard from that many military and LE knife fighting was often based on Filipino martial arts practices. That might be wrong, but why is it wrong?
@@RabbiSteve So you assume every bull you see on the internet as true? Very unwise.
Show proof or never happened.
iaido looks elegant af, eskrima looks more aggressive
This is true artwork watching both techniques. They way they flow then stop abruptly is just a beauty to behold.
Eacrima is definitely the more user friendly and practical of the two. One can become proficient on Escroma in a relatively short period of time. The art of the Japanese sword takes years to become precise. I find the movement and exercises in escrima to be more fun also. One can quickly develop a personal style.
Escrima treats every weapon as a primary.
Iado is a specialilty form of a sidearm. Katana were side arms, rarely used as primary.
katana-style weapons are so easy and intuitive to pick up, just in my experience with my students. any sort of dual wielding is gonna take longer
if we're going for easy to pick up, and readily available in daily life... just use a spear.
also far less likely to kill someone, easier to incapacitate without causing longlasting damage.
@@TheLifeOfKane lol sure reddit katana guy
@@TheLifeOfKane ok but who uses a Katana in a fight?
Been using Escrima since Enter The Dragon. This couch I had, had two poles at the bottom that came off. They were about 24 Inch. I started with one stick. It was like using a solid Nunchuck. Then I started using two sticks with Shotokan Kata. Great training. And a very simple weapon.
Mostly nice video, a few counterpoints:
1. Iaido and Battojutsu are not exactly the same thing, even though they both are martial arts focused on drawing a sword and attacking with it. They are regulated by different sport federations, have different rules and practice differently.
Iaido is more mainstream and just has a selection of kata that they practice. Only high ranking masters ever practice with sharp swords and they never do test cutting as a part of their martial art.
Battojutsu on the other hand considers test cutting a key part of their martial art and they start training it fairly early, so practitioners start practicing with sharp swords relatively early on.
2. The selection of clips for iaido is more wrong than not. Iaido is trained EXCLUSIVELY through practicing it's selection of katas, alone against imaginary opponents. Every other clip is wrong. There are lots of videos showing other schools of kenjutsu, battojutsu and some simply show videos of show-fighting from movies that has nothing to do with realistic sword fighting of any kind.
3. hearing the narrator mispronounce iaido and iaito every single time is painful.
That second I in both words is supposed to be pronounced as well.
Iaidoka here. Yeah, it seems like some guys wanted to make one of those controversial “escrima student destroys this iaido master” clickbait videos.
Absolutely murdered the pronunciation. 😅
Eskrima/Kali/Arnis is the most Practical and Effective. because even you dont have a katana. You can also use the Ballpen, Umbrella, Key, Stick, or the othersthings as a weapon. And even without a weapon you can use your skills to fight or in self defense. That is why i loved Filipino Martial Arts or FMA. Pugay po sa lahat ng FMA!🤩🇵🇭👋
That is why I always carry a pen all the time. Not obvious as a weapon but deadly. Pugay!👍
Iiado users can easily butcher fma tho....
Nowadays, you can not carry around any swords. You are usually barehanded... run first..fight if you have no choice.. Eskrima with or without eeapons is a better self defense because its all around
Move to texas
@karl joshua Gabriel I am in America. And I don't like guns
@karl joshua Gabriel plus, you can't carry them everywhere so martial arts is still cool
yah, bringing a sword around in public isn't realistic
When it comes to counter defense, Eskrima has the upperhand. Eskrima can injure or slow down opponent’s body. Iado is great at dexterity but weakened by opponent’s heavily counter defense. Eskrima can adapt to find ways to defeat Iado. Eskrima has no rules. Eskrima can get stronger and smarter when it comes to battle many times.
how about in times of world war can the arnis protect from japanese using samurai
In Medieval times, Escrima would have been useless against armoured Samurai - in more modern times they'd still be useless against firearms.
Eskrima is useful in assassination.
@@matthews1082 lol then the samurai will also be uselessness
@@matthews1082 Escrima/arnis was used against the spaniards who had metal armour
Arnis uses sticks, knives, empty hands, kicks, locking and grapling in same system. You can even use any available objects as a weapon using same flow.
Escrima was practised as a discipline by the warrior caste (which overlaps with the commoner class) in pre-colonial times. The ruling class had no obligation to fight beyond leading their forces.
And then later in colonial times was used by commoners (mostly native-born Filipinos) because the new "noble class": Spanish Peninsulares, Isleños, Mestizos, and the Filipino Principalia all had their own guards and militia who used firearms.
Old art: kali
New art: eskrima
Their both going to kill you in an instant
I think it's a regional thing. Because I've seen some modern systems that still call themselves kali.
Kali intend to kill you using stick or knife, while eskrima is a sport now a days😁😁😁.
@Andrew KorvinI don't believe its the
number of sticks , more fun to learn
both ways. Arnis, Eskrima, and Kali, are
the same thing, there are just different
definitions or items/activities that they
describe, I believe Eskrima means skirmish,
one of the other terms means blade, etc..
The three names are interchangeable.
@@bikersoncall that’s how I understand it. Kali is a term Dan Inosanto came up with and popularized from what I heard. Arnis is what they generally refer to it as in their own country, and Eskrima is from the influence of the Spaniards.
There are minor differences, mostly in emphasis of the weapons used, and what its meant to do. But they are very similar in the things they share between them.
I have been practicing FMA exclusively for 29 years.
I would FMA against any martial art with confidence, and rightly so.
FMA it's not just a martial art, it is a combat system.
I've actually trained in Eskrima and have found it a very versatile art
BTV: Your story is only half true. Labanay (eskrema) was once practice with GUINONTING, KRIS, AND OTHER SWORDS AND KNIVES. Thats why the Spaniards where able to conquer Formosa and defeated the Chinese is southern China, because of the Visayan fighters they brought with them in the 1600. The development of sword fighting was never borrowed from India. The art and style all originated from the Sri Vijaya kingdom in Panai, Sumatra and spread throughout Indonesia, Borneo, and Panay Philippines. Samurai dont stand a chance if the Labanay expert uses their double Guinunting.
The Spanish and the Chinese didn't have military conflict. You must mistake them for the Portugese, whom the Chinese slaughtered rather brutally.
i agree.. its half true.
also no martial art is better than other.
its depend how ur practice it and the master/guru
They employed not only kali practitioners in Visayas & Mindanao but also from Luzon - notably from Pampanga.
Samurai stand a great chance. They have longer swords, better armor, and more training.
Yeah sure, give yourself some rationale please. It depends on the skill of the fighter and their ability to adapt, not their societal standing.
Scrima is very usefull. You can hide it in Wherever you want.
No such thing as a “better” martial art. It’s the martial artists that make the difference.
You can't carry a catana with you outside, but iaido has a deeper dimension of developing mind and situation control. So both arts have different goals.
His pronunciation of Iaido depresses me. 😕
Scrima is the best. You can pick sticks everywhere around... You can bring arnis anytime, anywhere... But if you bring katana, cops will arrest you soon😆😆😅😂 katana is also no match vs scrima double swords...
How come the katana guy cant use a stick in place of?
Escrima is not for stick it also switch to blade or sword machete or bolo
@@stephenrhipp6926 because katana arts techniques are mainly built around cutting with blade, not the same as eskrima that have cutting and blunt weapons striking techniques which have their differences
@@Flokoli1 not true the techniques can be used with any type of long straight object.
@@hazeharrisoniii8254 the moves they use to slash with katana wouldn't generate the same amount of damage if you use the exact same motions with a stick
Because these moves have been created with the purpose of using cutting weapons in the end, which aren't used the same way as stick
For example, you can dangerously cut someone easily without generating much force whereas you need to wind-up (middle and long range) with sticks and blunt weapons to cause dangerous harm.
That alone makes FMA more complete in my opinion, because they created their moves with the purpose of using cutting and blunt weapons as a finality
Hello and thank you for putting this video together. While i have no formal training in Japanese swordsmanship i do and have studied Kali. While im a bit older and a bit rusty, the basic 5 attacks with a knife ill probably remember long after i forget my name. Please allow me to thank Master Gaje and Master McGrath for their endless patience in relaying information🙏
Both of these beat every unarmed martial art since they can arm themselves with anything resembling a stick
4:16 We begin with the sinawali. Also, 4:47 is "filleting" the arm or bicep. When the stick hits the hand, there is the technique called "defanging the snake"- a technique that hits the nerves of the wrist and the arm. Each style of Arnis varies depending upon the lineage of your guro or master.
Yup...and with blade, it would literally "defang the snake..." as the hand would be cutoff or at the very least nerves an supporting ligaments/muscle.... 😁
Escrima wasn't compromised by law like lieado . The people were genius in how they camouflaged the dance of death
do a proper research. Eskrima is from the philippines never from india!
I think he meant India. Like how early Europeans called south east asia the Indies i.e. Dutch East Indies, French East Indies. and the natives Indios. I think we can just blame Colombus and Magellan for this.
0:49 he knows that Eskrima is from the Philippines and 1:20 he called it a THEORY not fact.
Facts
You were not paying attention
Tell me your attention span doesn’t last more than a minute without telling me your attention span doesn’t last more than a minute
Fun fact: from about 1:03-1:10 is a seminar with my teacher GM Bobby Taboada. He was taught by a bunch of masters who came back from WW2 having inflicted devastating losses on the Japanese invaders. Japan's invasion of the Phillippines cost them well over 250,000 deaths, most likely a lot more. Arnis is insanely fast, efficient and extremely effective, it's really more warfare/cqc than a sport or art although it does have aspects of both. I have trained several martial arts for years, and even at 70, GM Taboada is "Wake up the next day in the hospital" kind of fast. In the beginning you really have to practice a lot, but it is worth it. There's a remarkable consistency through the students as well that I don't find in many other arts.
I miss watching my late grandpa doing some arnis exhibition using his bolo knife. He's a WW2 veteran and fought the Japanese.
there is little controversy among some Japanese who say that iaido is not a martial art.
A japanese martial art to compare to eskrima is Koppo-ken, an old japanese martal art created for assassination, self defense and street fights. There is open handed combat, a lot of grapling, and a lot of short sword and knife tecniques. The most famous Koppo style is from master Seishi Horibe.
Really interesting, never heard about Koppo Jutsu, unfortunate that there is so little information available thar i could find, a shame, really
the only Koppo i know was the word used by Moogle's in ff series lol 😅💁🏻♀️
Well a lot of applications aren't really good to use in IRL. A lot of Japanese practioners says that. Because it's more about style and discipline. Whereas Kali is really intended for defense
I would say Nito Ichi-ryū is a very lethal if you master it.
@@jacobbcox1985 Two sword technique. If I'm not mistaken it was Musashi who popularized it.
I practice Kali for self defense purposes so naturally I am going to say kali / escrima/ Arnis is better. But then..... Since we practice for bladed weapons also I love the katana.
I had the privilege of learning Eskrima with my former Philipino colleagues! I can tell you it's the ultimate weapon against Jiu-jitsu
My Great grandpa was a " dose pares" practitioner. Its a type of eskrema in the Philipines by using advance and effective martial arts system using knife and sword and stick and used 12 style of advance pattern to attack. Its deadly because when my great grandpa was ambush by muslin pirate back in the days all 6 enemies of his are bleed to death.
Kali would be good for a start. Ideally learning both systems of sword fighting is best.
"Eeee aaah do!" Sorry, but that did make me giggle each time I heard it. Exactly as you said though, Iaido is a spiritual practice, meaning that few practitioners of the art will pressure test any of their techniques or even understand their kata beyond a set "dance". Iaijutsu, Kenjutsu, Battojutsu or even Kendo however are all styles that even today still pressure test their techniques to make sure the students skills are alive, flowing, controlled and effective. Perhaps one of those other styles would have been a better comparison instead.
You hit the nail on the head. Eskrima is the most practical combat martial arts there is. It does not require strength as it involves more on deflection followed by the attack. Even when you block, you block to disarm and disable, not just to stop the attack of your opponent. Weapons can be from your own hands, to a rolled up paper, umbrella, fork, spoon, and even an effing pencil (just like babayaga).
Styles don't fight each other, people do.
It's actually really scary seeing actual practice of escrima, especially if was with real knives, it's so fast and my eyes can't follow their movement,in this state, I'll be dead within seconds if I were encountered a practitioner irl
Gm Bobby Taboada is amazing
Much love ❤️🙏🏼
Eskrima in its' ancient forms would have been practiced by even the warrior elite of the datus. Some older strikes I see in Kali are obviously cuts at the heel beneath the protection of the shield or "kalasag".
For me they are both great styles. Since they both have have a history that proves that have been used in warfare. And they were effective.
I do Iaido myself for me it's more about being calm because it also had the concept of taking someone's life away because this was feudal Japan it also requires a LOT of concentration, it may seem like you're just waving your blade in the air but you there is a lot of detail in it
Isn’t there a saying in iado about not wanting to draw the sword?
@@blacksnapper7684 The whole concept of Iaido Is in a way not drawing your sword, Iaido's goal is to make you mentally strong enough to not rely on your Katana though we are trained how to use it obviously but the ultimate goal even though it may sound like a contradiction is peace.
Interesting analysis. It's difficult to say one style is better than the other. Ultimately it is not a question of superior style but superior individual.
Knives were super expensive. Bamboo sticks nearly free. When long bamboo sticks meet short but far more deadly knives, wrist attacks FTW.
One thing to remember laido is only a part of the whole.
In todays modern world escrima is probably more practical as you can carry a knife or grab a stick from anywhere etc.
However one on one the long sword or in this case the katana weilder would have the advantage.
My instructor Angelito Barongan used to show us techniques called gunting or scissoring strikes to pressure points in Kali/Arnis/Eskrima.
He was also trained in Iaido.
Those techniques and movements are amazing
Iaido (ee-eye-doe)
Iaito (ee-eye-toe)
Katana ☑️ kataRna❌
🙏🏽
Kali system was created to kill. During japanese occupation in the ph, eskrima masters was brought to japan and just vanished. They never came back to ph and was presumed to be killed.
Im filipino i remember when i was high school i dont have interest in skrima till i learned it i realized it was cool and helped me alot especially to all bullies and i was danger before till now i use it🙂😍
I was hoping to see a combat sparring session between the 2 styles although I know Iaido is non-combative, just thought the techniques would've been used etc.
That's because they click baited you with a misleading title.
Both are definitely awesome to learn and to master...both are effective and efficient time proven fighting techniques.. but I do believe that the Phillipino fighting style is overall best for today's world...
Honestly I'd love to learn both these along with Krav Maga, silat, and some BBj for subs and grappling techniques..
lul krav maga is shit
@@gharm9129 lol back in your grandma's basement lil silly boi
@@gotmullets You're an 1d10t if you think it's viable (krav maga), plenty of ppl have went over this including Ramsey.
@@gharm9129 Krav Maga is at the core of most mma styles. It's something that alone .. just like using karate by its self.. is not as strong by itself.
Mma is the true way to go. Even with Krav Maga in the mix. I've seen one mma (Taekwondo, akido, muy thai and krav maga)130lb guy vs three navy Marines ( these Marines were hanging at this little beach me and my friends were having a picnic. The Marines were drinking and throwing a ball around.. kept running through the middle of the picnic.)
My friend got up to ask them to stop.. the navy guys started tried to intimidate my mma friend.. my friend warned them that he will protect themselves and that they will get hurt. The navy guys laughed and pulled up on him.. so he sent two of them to the hospital and wounded them bad enough to end their military careers.. their commanding officer was the other one.. he got beat down.. but ran and called the police.
My friend served 5 years for that. And his hands became deadly weapons in this area. He moved elsewhere though.. where he can still fight.. I've also seen him win other altercations. And in competition events his family had recorded.. while he was training in the various styles.
Based on seeing him fight with my own eyes and knowing he has Krav Maga he uses. I'd have to disagree with ya bud. I feel Krav Maga is useful.. I can agree like any single style by themselves.. it isn't the best.
@@gotmullets bs story, 130lb guy is going to lose to someone who's in a heavier weight class, especially outnumbered.
You're full of shit and it's painfully obvious.
so to anyone reading this fantasy bs having registered hands as deadly weapons is also bs and a myth.
You forgot Panantukan (Dirty Boxing)
Yes
A fight so unbelievable that it never happened
The weapon is an extension of the body. Sword technique can be easily applied to using any other long weapon. A bat, cane, golf club; whatever is handy.
I trained in aikido when I was younger and I always loved the weapons training aspect of it, not forgetting to mention the philosophy as well!
Nothing you learned was effective, practical, or realistic. Aikido is entirely fake.
@@ConernicusRex although absolutely truthful as I came to realize growing up, I found that sad actually 😢
@@StephenRGreenwoodElblond23 Hey, me too. I was a teenager in the 90s. Learning Steven Segal can’t fight in real life was like a killing blow.
@@ConernicusRex learning how he crapped his pants with a choke hold by Gene helped me a lot getting over my "trauma".. loll 🤣😂
@@ConernicusRex I used to think that just by mimicking what the general opinion is
But now I think that it's the practitioner that adapts his art to make it work in every situation and not the art by itself that is or isn't working
I would like to try it and learn it from someone who isn't stuck in the very rigid thing that is traditional techniques or demonstrations but who thinks about adapting the style to current times
Not everything is to throw away in anything
As iaido has no combat aspect to it, and is more so meditative and form based while preserving tradition, I think it’d be more fair to compare escrima with kenjutsu or at least kendo.
If comparing to kendo, keep it as stick fighting while kendo maintains a shinai.
If comparing to kenjutsu, assume both have bladed weapons, for fair comparison, if speaking of effectiveness at least while assuming equal skill.
But in the end, the comparison here became “depends on your why” to get involved in either or art, which is about as fair of a reason when comparing ANY art style.
So long as the practitioner doesn’t forget their why and distort things, there’s nothing wrong with whatever choice you make. As in, don’t go learn a style, practical or otherwise, learn only forms, then think your a world championship level fighter. Train to do what you intend to do.
If you want to fight, fight. If you want to be a part of tradition, be a part of tradition. Nothing wrong with any choice.
Exactly my thoughts.
If you like Katana sword. I think you must learn both of iaido and kendo. If you learn equally both of them you can be Katana master. Escrima is a full defensive martial art and very practical. Personal I prefer Escrima because it's practical use.
For me i chose both fighting MMA and tradition kali escrima, silat
Really? What is your background in Iaido for you to make such a comparison/statement?
@@ronin2167 I don’t have a personal background in iaido. Known several who did it. Everything points towards no sparring. Can’t find any source showing that iaido does any form of sparring, only finding sources stating the opposite. You learn to cut, you learn concentration, you learn form, you learn tradition. But not seeing anything on learning live combat. I’ve seen kenjutsu, I’ve seen kendo, and I’ve briefly done kendo as well. Even if it did have some level of sparring though, it does not seem to be anywhere near the emphasis of the system the way it appears to be practiced by most.
It seems to be a system where you learn to wield a blade but not how to duel with a blade. Emphasis seems to be on the draw, perhaps a few moves after, cleaning of the blade, and sheathing.
This is really something. I always thought Escrima was just fighting with two sticks. I had no idea it was so much more than that. That's really cool
What differentiates Filipino martial arts and foreign martial arts is that FMA retained its original purpose and its intended use. While other martial arts, it lost its original purpose and was instead commercialized as a sport, and when an art that is designed for killing people turns into a sport it would lose most of its core techniques. For example karate, if you learn that martial arts other than its roots or from the direct line masters themselves then you'd never learn techniques that aren't bounded by rules.
But as history dictates the Philippines has gone through a series of invasions from foreign powers, so naturally the people would embrace the system wherein they could fight and defend themselves even with the limited armaments they have and since then the art was passed down towards the new generation as a whole package and not an art that's purposely modified for the worlds current peaceful environment.
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That would have made so much more sense to compare Eskrima with. I totally don't get who'd want to compare Iaido with a full martial arts system. That's like (no offence meant) comparing a mining lorry (very specialized in it's application) with a road car.
Correction for pronunciation of Iaido (E-Yaay-Do)
Both are great, master the Katana or any kind sword you can wheeled any stick like a sword both hands or single hand also because of foot work that plays a role.
And empty hand and weapons combat old or modern are like brother and sister they complete one another.
When someone says they don't train in any form of weapons isn't a complete Martial artist.
That's why Street fighters tend to win over so called Martial artist because lack of knowledge of weapons and hand to hand combat and depending on the living environment they are in.
The Escrima I used to train in (until Covid) emphasised techniques which could be used with a stick, knife, sword, or even empty hand if necessary. This meant you didn;t have to learn a different technique for each situation. It's not like you can carry a katana around in the UK unless you're a criminal, then it's ok.
Escrima (also known as Arnis) is the better option. Any available 24 " blade, stick , pipe , golf club shaft , etc can be utilized as a weapon. Bare hands also work.
Any art using a weapon such as the katana was originally intended for the nobility and their "code of honor". In Japan , ninjutsu filled the void but was used mainly for assassins, not self defense by commoners
Even a rolled up newspaper can be a weapon for Escrimador. 👍
It's ee-eye-do. And it's as much a meditation these days much more than a martial art.
Eskrima and Arnis are a part of Kali . Kali encompasses all of it , from punching , kicking , trapping , grappling , weapons , etc .
There is another Japanese sword, control discipline, called battojutsu, which focuses on the initial draw and the first strikes of a duel. The focus is on having a clear mind, and controlling your breathing. You draw (inhale), execute (exhale), fling the blood off (inhale), return to sheath (exhale). The focus is on keeping a calm mind, as you execute your movements.
There is no one kind of martial arts that is the best, only the one that is suitable for you and has the greatest effect is the best
Pilipino Martials Arts ❤️ 👍 🇵🇭
If only there was an Eskrima school nearby.
They both have different goals, practice them both!
Assuming two combatants of equal skill, it is possible to withstand many blows from a light stick, but any contact with the katana would be disastrous.
I mean... Who's out there with a dilemma of choosing to study escrima or iaido? Study both if you like the looks of them. Add or switch in kendo if you wanna get combat oriented with the katana...
I imagine for most people, preference, affordability and availability of classes would be the deciders
I love eskrima training I do it on a daily basis ,
You cant bring and find katana everywhere, whereas you can use your walking cane or kitchen knife into practical weapon. I say sticks are easy to access than katanas.
As a former student of FMA, I think the skill of the practitioner is the deciding factor.
There was a woman that had been in that class for years and was basically invincible.
As fit male of equal height in my twenties, I could absolutely go nuts on her with two swords, and if it was my intention to cut her, I assure you I could not.
I never knew anyone could be that good with weapons before taking those classes.
If both combatants are skilled FMA has a big disadvantage, its called length, it would be a Nightmare to fight against a skilled Tachi or Katana user..
@@SuperRickster there are ways to gap a distance with short weapons. If you don't know how to do it, don't go looking for a fight with someone who has a long sword.
@@3yes0ny0uyes i wouldnt fight a true skilled katana user just looking for a fight, except i really have no choice...
I like both, but Eskrima is my preference! Kali and Arnis
Iaido is more a contemplative technique based on a martial art, using a weapon, the katana. If you aim for a comparison of martial arts you should compare Escrima to Kenjutsu or Jaijutsu.
YES!!!! Thank you good sir!!!
I am 62 fairly healthy not great but i do work out 3-5 days a week no handicaps am i to old to learn a martial art at this stage of my life ? Or should i just forget it? Any advice is appreciated.
Guys. Eskrima is not misspelled. Escrima is the european fencing and despite the influence of romanized/latinized writing these two are definitely different from one another. I dont see fencing techniques that complicated as Kali or Eskrima. Thank you for reading and being openminded :")
Escrima vs Krabi Krabong pls 🙏
I see merits to both...Escrima/Kali is modern &updated for everyday combat..it's integrated Into all levels if combatives. From special forces to law enforcement...Iaido is Classical Martial Arts. Combined in Aikido training ..and the obvious Kendo training. Both have similar evasion, deflecting and yielding principals. The greatest difference is in philosophy. Kali focus remains to destroy & Iaido is self development. BUT can be used in defense & offensively. I see the value in both...when practiced with proper instructors.
I would train both. Because there is always something to learn both styles.
Do the makers purposefully try to mispronounce each Japanse word?
Ah dooz buliave soh
Sometimes its really hard for English tonuge to utter asian words. Even Kampilan should be pronounce as Kam-pee-lan
let's remember that the Katana was created to be used in armored formational warfare, with spear, wakizashi &/or tanto grappling-Juijutzu back-up, lots of tripping-- todays' Japanese Sword MA would simply NOT be believed by an historical Samurai
It may have been created for that purpose initially, but it saw more use in different contexts, closer to what you see in those today's Japanese sword MA.
Thing is, when katanas started appearing in early 15th century, they weren't really used all that much on the battlefields. Most battlefields fatalities in the time period, in fact well over half, came from bows, then switching to firearms around the start of the 16th century. After the ranged weapons, much of the remaining fatalities came from polearms like yari, followed by blunt weapons, and only then came bladed weapons accounting for something like 5% of battlefield wounds.
Should also be noted that those bladed wounds also include stuff like nagamakis or daggers.
Appropriately, in this time, samurai didn't spend all that much time training with katanas, apprenticeships with them generally lasting only a few weeks to a few months.
But then, eventually Edo period started. Tokugawa shogunate took power and implemented lots of reforms, that brought Japan two centuries of peace and stagnation.
Since battles didn't happen any more, armor wasn't worn much in this period. But samurai remained the warrior class. They were required to stay competent warriors, and to carry around two swords as a symbol of their status.
And those skills would then get used in duels between them over honor or petty offenses, or for self defense in more civilian settings, to fend off ambushes. Both of these types of scenarios were still reasonably common and that's the setting most of those Japanese sword MAs you still see practiced today really developed for.
So this is when kenjutsu really took off and developed and katanas started seeing a lot of use. Master swordsmen got something of a celebrity status, kenjutsu schools grew in number, expanded their curriculum to keep their students paying longer, and it became normal to train swordsmanship for decades.
I will choose the Eskrima since that art is focus on disarming the opponent as quick as possible.
Chris Kent has said that during WWII the Fillipino Masters of Kali, Escrima etc. regularly engaged Japanese officers trained in sword fighting in the jungles and almost always defeated them. Dan Inosanto's Sifu (my apologies, I've forgotten his name) had a collectiion of katans to prove it.
If you rate martial arts by " _which is better_ ", you've already lost all credibility.
Filipino use shorter bladed weapons because it is easy to conceal .
Iaido is very cool too drawing a long weapon as quick as possible is like kenshin himura doing a " Amakakeru Ryu no Hieameki " move
Also, I might add, most filipino martial art styles are taught to to be used in fighting up close...hence shorter blades that can be weilded faster in smooth quick combinations of multiple hits/slashes/stabs ✌
what is the name of the training katana made of iron and adapted for 1vs1 training ???
Great content! Thanx
Iaido is similar to the "fast draw" US western movies, and Japanese movies liked the style. In the real old west the "fast draw" ws not very common, fights were more like bulleys fly8ing everywhere than a person that could fast draw and shoot with the precision of Annie Oakley. If you are sloppy drawing and putting a katana back in its scabbard, you're likely to lose fingers,
I practiced that for a long time then I tried practicing from the bed.
Stabbed myself in the knee. I don't draw that blade anymore. Unless I have to.
Moral of the story - a change in stance or positions - go back to slow motion practice.
@@sumakwelvictoria5635 imagine using an real sword for practice.