I think,most off the 3 head cassette decks are very good...if some they are good or less depends...is pretty subjective!I prefer Aiwa&Akai,especially they are looking pretty nice,fabulous,not so expensive and recording very good....Revox is very good but,is not looking very nice vs Pioneer ct f series vs akai gx f series,some Dual (c 844) etc....i think every deck is unique ,with + and -....!Anyway,i am very happy to see people sharing stuff's like this!
Słuchałem obydwa modele . To są stare wyeksploatowane urządzenia . Tylko całkowita wymiana mechanizmu na nowy może pokazać ich możliwości . Do tego dochodzi elektronika . Ona również wymaga dokładnego sprawdzenia . Słuchałem także Teac 8030 , Akai gx 95 . Ten ostatni spełniał moje oczekiwania . Choć ząb czasu i na nim wyrył swoje piętno . Kupiłem niedawno Tascama ( nowy ) . Nie podbarwia ani nie upiększa dźwięku .I to jest jego zaleta . Wymienione wcześniej magnetofony niestety dźwięk " upiększały " . Szkoda że nie produkuje się tamtych urządzeń . To była złota era magnetofonów . Pozdrawiam fanów magnetofonów i gramofonów .
Im asking your opinion on the tanberg3014A. I have this machine and it has not been turned on for years im afraid the belts have melted or something else WHAT SHOULD I DO FIRST its in mint condition im the original owner
There are common issue with the VU meters and back tension. You have to remove the mechanism and to clean the old grease, making new lubrication. I've made an article about 3014A here: lab2104.tu-plovdiv.bg/index.php/2018/07/22/tandberg-3014a-repair-and-rebuild/
@@BorisRibov thank you for your response i will link to that site its a wonderful machine and i love to use it im an avid collector of fine audio equipment unfortunately where i live TORONTO thiers no one trustworthy enough to work on such a machine
@@BorisRibov Hello Boris. I have Nakamichi Dragon deck. After transporting door won't open. I press on Eject button but nothing is happening. What do you think the problem is? Demonstration czcams.com/video/lss3s09Cz6o/video.html Thanks
I used to own a px 565 technics and they do sound magical with a very 3 dimensional sound most tape decks fail on... The 965 is super holographic and recordings simply dissappear leaving but the original recording especially on darklab cassettes... Nak zx9 is my dragon slayer now... But a rx202 e is pretty decent
For me it is the better noise reduction system. I tested Super D, ADRNS. Dolby B, S, C for the cassettes but never touch the smooth and noiseless performance without noise modulation on quiet moments like HighCom II. High Comm II is wide band system like DBX but it use two separate band processing for low frequency and high frequency as a comparison with DBX which use single band processing.
Hi, Boris! Very many tnx for shedding lite upon aspects n peculiarities of various NR. Excuse me, should I ask not exactly to the point, yet is any input available upon ADRES NR system by Aurex aka Toshiba. Have you happened to hear it in action, how is it when compared to Hi-Comm? Also, is there any DETAILED procedure description on using M-300 gauge by Information Terminals for transport fine alignment? Regards from Russian Siberia n strong siberian health to each n everyone))
Ok, Boris, just am back again to cancel for request on IT M-300 gauge for there's simply a huge amount of info on TapeHeads.net. Regards))) and tnx once again for a brief video on the M-300 gauge implementation to at least understand n get a slight idea of what this is all about))).
Is this the problem of all the cassette decks with DD motors in Techics? I just have a simple 1982 deck (DC motors) RS-226 it has better detonation (Wow & Flutter) parameters than this one. RS-226 Looks better. I recently measured. 0.03 _-_ 0.04%
I touch several good machines and also several bad from the same model. Maybe it depends on the storage and the working hours and use of every machine. I have a Technics 965 which got 0.034 up to 0.04% JIS WTD. On the other hand I serviced some machines with very buzz motors that cannot allow W&F lower than 0.08% JIS WTD.
Currently the Dragon allow 0.008% for W&F and the factory spec is twice worst (0.018%). All the components into the Dragon were replaced - new belts, new pinch rollers, new op-amps. All of the orange caps were replaced. You can look at the description of the repair at: lab2104.tu-plovdiv.bg/index.php/2019/02/07/nakamichi-dragon-rebuild-improvements/
@@ivok9846 Both - I like the sound of the tapes. I have a lot of top models in my collection but really the aim is to improve. Most of the machines are made using some compromise in the components base because of the large production series. In the past few years I developed a ultra low noise head premp for my reel-to-reel pro decks. Now this preamp is used in the quantum sensors measurements in Grenoble/France.
@@BorisRibov that your preamp has other uses doesn't surprise me after reading what you're doing in linked article. you really are drilling deep. kudos! (ah, now i see you're a doctor, that doesn't surprise me either! )
I use external wide band noise reduction, dual band HighCom II made by Telefunken for Nakamichi (fully rebuild and new op-amps). It performs better than dbx.
@@larryhazelwood5491 30dB+self noise floor of the machine is close to 90dB. The higher range above 0dB is compressed also. So it is possible to go up to 10dB. The overall dynamic range is the sum and goes about the same (or is very close) to the dbx. The difference is the processing principle. The dbx is very simple system. Technics use Type II, which filters a lot of bandwidth for processing. The HighCom II process the spectrum in two independent bands and some effects like tape drop outs and fast attack (noise breathing) are hard to be found on HighCom II.
If we consider the price of the over estimated even today Nakamichi Dragon and the Technics RS-B965 guys...!!! I think that Technics is a far better cassete deck in all aspects... Let me explain...! A Nakamichi Dragon today mostly in Ebay in a very good condition and well serviced , costs about 7.000-10.000$ US.................WTF !!!!!!! On the other place a Technics RS-B965 also in a nearly mind condition serviced also well , costs about 600-800$ US...!! Dragon features dolby B - C , Frequency Response: 20Hz to 22kHz (Metal tape) , Signal to Noise Ratio: 72dB (dolby C) Wow and Flutter: 0.04% ( Nakamichi mesurements) , Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.8%.....! RS-B965 features B, C, HX Pro, DBXii , Frequency Response: 20Hz to 20kHz (Metal tape) , Signal to Noise Ratio: 92dB (DBX) , Wow and Flutter: 0.03% SO , there is no doubt that both are best of the best cassette decks of all times BUT the BARGAIN here is : T e c h n i c s RS-B965 ......Thats it THE END
I prefee me AIWA-ADF 770. A WINNER under PRICE TAG. Draggo and nakaas-holes are wayyy overpriced,ask almost anyone else,deck owners. Hiss is ok,it is a part o fa hifi genre. At ebay,thers a few draggos that pays like ten thousand euros. Whatta Joke!!!
Considering Nakamichi Dragon is the best tape deck ever made, Technics stack up to it pretty well. Well, Nakamichi did have that ZX1000 model too, now that I think about it.....
I have aiwa ad f 660,just i changed the belts...here is a short video(i have another chanel)so you can see how is doing a record!czcams.com/video/oSEc1G1fpGA/video.html...what do you think?
I think,most off the 3 head cassette decks are very good...if some they are good or less depends...is pretty subjective!I prefer Aiwa&Akai,especially they are looking pretty nice,fabulous,not so expensive and recording very good....Revox is very good but,is not looking very nice vs Pioneer ct f series vs akai gx f series,some Dual (c 844) etc....i think every deck is unique ,with + and -....!Anyway,i am very happy to see people sharing stuff's like this!
Both great decks anyway :-)
Merry Christmas to everyone :-)
Słuchałem obydwa modele . To są stare wyeksploatowane urządzenia . Tylko całkowita wymiana mechanizmu na nowy może pokazać ich możliwości . Do tego dochodzi elektronika . Ona również wymaga dokładnego sprawdzenia . Słuchałem także Teac 8030 , Akai gx 95 . Ten ostatni spełniał moje oczekiwania . Choć ząb czasu i na nim wyrył swoje piętno . Kupiłem niedawno Tascama ( nowy ) . Nie podbarwia ani nie upiększa dźwięku .I to jest jego zaleta . Wymienione wcześniej magnetofony niestety dźwięk " upiększały " . Szkoda że nie produkuje się tamtych urządzeń . To była złota era magnetofonów . Pozdrawiam fanów magnetofonów i gramofonów .
Beauty&BEAST...:-)
I prefer Technics .Its simply .Sound for me is better . For me .
Im asking your opinion on the tanberg3014A. I have this machine and it has not been turned on for years im afraid the belts have melted or something else WHAT SHOULD I DO FIRST its in mint condition im the original owner
There are common issue with the VU meters and back tension. You have to remove the mechanism and to clean the old grease, making new lubrication. I've made an article about 3014A here:
lab2104.tu-plovdiv.bg/index.php/2018/07/22/tandberg-3014a-repair-and-rebuild/
@@BorisRibov thank you for your response i will link to that site its a wonderful machine and i love to use it im an avid collector of fine audio equipment unfortunately where i live TORONTO thiers no one trustworthy enough to work on such a machine
What is your best cassette deck?
I have a lot of but the Dragon is more close to the neutral sound. So I prefer it compared to the other brand and models.
@@BorisRibov Hello Boris. I have Nakamichi Dragon deck. After transporting door won't open. I press on Eject button but nothing is happening. What do you think the problem is? Demonstration czcams.com/video/lss3s09Cz6o/video.html Thanks
I used to own a px 565 technics and they do sound magical with a very 3 dimensional sound most tape decks fail on... The 965 is super holographic and recordings simply dissappear leaving but the original recording especially on darklab cassettes... Nak zx9 is my dragon slayer now... But a rx202 e is pretty decent
Why not record on both? The dbx on the 965 is superior to the dragon.
The external HighComm II that I use is superior than the internal DBX of the Technics.
So it records cassettes as well?
For me it is the better noise reduction system. I tested Super D, ADRNS. Dolby B, S, C for the cassettes but never touch the smooth and noiseless performance without noise modulation on quiet moments like HighCom II. High Comm II is wide band system like DBX but it use two separate band processing for low frequency and high frequency as a comparison with DBX which use single band processing.
Hi, Boris! Very many tnx for shedding lite upon aspects n peculiarities of various NR. Excuse me, should I ask not exactly to the point, yet is any input available upon ADRES NR system by Aurex aka Toshiba. Have you happened to hear it in action, how is it when compared to Hi-Comm?
Also, is there any DETAILED procedure description on using M-300 gauge by Information Terminals for transport fine alignment? Regards from Russian Siberia n strong siberian health to each n everyone))
Ok, Boris, just am back again to cancel for request on IT M-300 gauge for there's simply a huge amount of info on TapeHeads.net. Regards))) and tnx once again for a brief video on the M-300 gauge implementation to at least understand n get a slight idea of what this is all about))).
In my opinion Technics RS-B965 is not worse than the detonation (Wow & Flutter) parameters (when its tape movement mechanism is completely repaired)
Yep, both are perfect serviced. The most often problem with DD motors in Techics is its weak magnets (demagnetized in time).
Is this the problem of all the cassette decks with DD motors in Techics? I just have a simple 1982 deck (DC motors) RS-226 it has better detonation (Wow & Flutter) parameters than this one. RS-226 Looks better. I recently measured. 0.03 _-_ 0.04%
I touch several good machines and also several bad from the same model. Maybe it depends on the storage and the working hours and use of every machine. I have a Technics 965 which got 0.034 up to 0.04% JIS WTD. On the other hand I serviced some machines with very buzz motors that cannot allow W&F lower than 0.08% JIS WTD.
Probably the Dragon needs some repair.
Currently the Dragon allow 0.008% for W&F and the factory spec is twice worst (0.018%). All the components into the Dragon were replaced - new belts, new pinch rollers, new op-amps. All of the orange caps were replaced. You can look at the description of the repair at:
lab2104.tu-plovdiv.bg/index.php/2019/02/07/nakamichi-dragon-rebuild-improvements/
@@BorisRibov reading this stuff.... you're probably engineer or REALLY interested in the subject. probably both.
@@ivok9846 Both - I like the sound of the tapes. I have a lot of top models in my collection but really the aim is to improve. Most of the machines are made using some compromise in the components base because of the large production series. In the past few years I developed a ultra low noise head premp for my reel-to-reel pro decks. Now this preamp is used in the quantum sensors measurements in Grenoble/France.
@@BorisRibov that your preamp has other uses doesn't surprise me after reading what you're doing in linked article. you really are drilling deep.
kudos!
(ah, now i see you're a doctor, that doesn't surprise me either! )
What the best?
TheDena85 Nakamichi DRAGON and Technics RS-B965 are good decks. :-)
The Dragon is the winner in the Wow & Flutter Test.
It is not known in what technical condition the device is
the technics has dbx.compare how it records compared to the dragon.
I use external wide band noise reduction, dual band HighCom II made by Telefunken for Nakamichi (fully rebuild and new op-amps). It performs better than dbx.
@@BorisRibov so it reduces tape hiss by more than 30 db and has more that 110 db dynamic range?
@@larryhazelwood5491 30dB+self noise floor of the machine is close to 90dB. The higher range above 0dB is compressed also. So it is possible to go up to 10dB. The overall dynamic range is the sum and goes about the same (or is very close) to the dbx. The difference is the processing principle. The dbx is very simple system. Technics use Type II, which filters a lot of bandwidth for processing. The HighCom II process the spectrum in two independent bands and some effects like tape drop outs and fast attack (noise breathing) are hard to be found on HighCom II.
@@BorisRibov those were dbx specs
надо было проще-по нашему говорить.
Може би ако бяг заговорил на моя роден език едва ли Руснаците щяхте да разберете цялата терминология.
Что Накамичи фигня на поснос масле 😆
If we consider the price of the over estimated even today Nakamichi Dragon and the Technics RS-B965 guys...!!!
I think that Technics is a far better cassete deck in all aspects...
Let me explain...!
A Nakamichi Dragon today mostly in Ebay in a very good condition and well serviced , costs about 7.000-10.000$ US.................WTF !!!!!!!
On the other place a Technics RS-B965 also in a nearly mind condition serviced also well , costs about 600-800$ US...!!
Dragon features dolby B - C , Frequency Response: 20Hz to 22kHz (Metal tape) , Signal to Noise Ratio: 72dB (dolby C)
Wow and Flutter: 0.04% ( Nakamichi mesurements) , Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.8%.....!
RS-B965 features B, C, HX Pro, DBXii , Frequency Response: 20Hz to 20kHz (Metal tape) , Signal to Noise Ratio: 92dB (DBX) , Wow and Flutter: 0.03%
SO , there is no doubt that both are best of the best cassette decks of all times BUT the BARGAIN here is :
T e c h n i c s RS-B965 ......Thats it
THE END
I prefee me AIWA-ADF 770. A WINNER under PRICE TAG. Draggo and nakaas-holes are wayyy overpriced,ask almost anyone else,deck owners. Hiss is ok,it is a part o fa hifi genre.
At ebay,thers a few draggos that pays like ten thousand euros. Whatta Joke!!!
Nakamichi ZXL 1000 Limited is the best deck ever made
theyre all shit
It's very good but not best. Tandberg tcd 910/911
Considering Nakamichi Dragon is the best tape deck ever made, Technics stack up to it pretty well. Well, Nakamichi did have that ZX1000 model too, now that I think about it.....
The best tapedeck ever made, is the Revox B215!
Micha1422 i guess we should say those are one of the best tape decks ever made. ( Nakamichi Dragon, TEAC 7000 master deck, Revox 215, Pioneer CT-95...
@@technics-n-thuiast8346 Tandberg 3014 ;)
@@technics-n-thuiast8346 AIWA AD F SERIES AS WELL.....
I have aiwa ad f 660,just i changed the belts...here is a short video(i have another chanel)so you can see how is doing a record!czcams.com/video/oSEc1G1fpGA/video.html...what do you think?