To Hell and Back - Sabaton (The Story of Audie Murphy & PTSD) - A Historian Reacts
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My maternal grandfather fought at Anzio with the 45th infantry division (the Thunderbird Division) He came through relatively ok, but did occasionally get freaked out when there was a thunderstorm, because the thunder reminded him of being shelled while helpless in the foxholes. Like many of his generation, he did not talk about the war experience much except for mentioning some of his buddies. He did start to open up more towards the end of his life. He told my mother, (his daughter) one day a few months before he passed that he ended up killing one German with his bayonet when the soldier jumped into his foxhole one night. My mother said he was crying when he told her this and said that "every night when I close my eyes to sleep, I still see the horror in that boys face". I can not imagine the pain he carried with him his entire life and yet was an amazing father and grandfather. I miss him every day.
They made a Netflix series about that division, it was a very good show. I also feel it was a great thing to immortalize the division in some way. Respect to your grandfather.
One amusing thing I remember reading about the To Hell and Back movie is the producers wanted to tone down his accomplishments because they didn't believe a single person could do the things he did until he explained that no, he did do those things and he had the records to prove it.
Murphy was one of them, iirc. He wanted some things omitted or toned down because he thought it would break the suspension of disbelief, even though he knew better than anybody that they actually happened.
Interesting that WWI Medal of Honor winner Alvin York also had doubts raised about his feats. It wasn’t until just a few years ago when they actually found and excavated the site of the battle that they could prove that everything York stated had happened.
@@thewiseoldherper7047 Some soldiers went way above and beyond ehat many thought possible in both World Wars.
If I'm not mistaken, Audie was also a big advocate for his fellow veterans and made many appearances encouraging the military establishment to provide better post service care for them...especially in regards to PTSD...which they denied even existed for many years.
This song is quite important I think. For all of Audie Murphy's battlefield honors I think the greatest battle he won was beating the addiction the medications had caused, and managing to return to something resembling a normal life despite his PTSD.
I don't remember if it was the Sabaton History episode or an article about Audie Murphy and the other WW2 veterans with PTSD, but because that condition (or arguably compound of conditions) was not well understood yet, and an over-reliance (or possibly desperate hope) of the doctors in trying to medicate it away, the drugs they put the soldiers on were really strong. I believe both amphetamine and cocaine were among those tried.
Unfortunately, many of the soldiers who got treated with the drugs never recovered from the addiction they caused. Some became homeless and some turned to crime to fuel the addiction once the military treatment programs ended. Others still took their lives from the mix of their PTSD and drug addiction. It's not something that has been widely reported on/studied, as far as i know, at lest not in a form widely available to the general public, but there were way too many ex-soldiers whose lives once back home turned miserable, short or both.
And though he still carried mental scars, at least for the addiction part, Audie Murphy beat it and came out on the other side in a functional state. He didn't go to Hell and back just in the war.
When Sabaton is touring the USA the tank that Hannes is sitting on is named after Audie Murphy.
If I could make a song suggestion, I would listen to En livstid I Krig, the live version on their channel. It’s probably the song who’s lyrics get me the most. Just make sure to turn on the subtitles because it is in Swedish.
The Swedish album in general compared to the English carries a stronger emotional feeling where the English rendition is just "badass" but removes a lot of the emotions.
Overrated song imo
Yes!
I agree. I sang Lifetime of War for choir my senior year, and every time I look back on it I try to think of how to blend En Livstid I Krig into it. The lyrics for the Swedish version are definitely more powerful and that just makes the live version more beautiful.
I cried first time I saw the love version you're talking about. It's a very strong emotional song. Right up there with this one!
In that same interview they said the son was glad that they hadn’t done another country song devoted to him.
I love to hear the crowd when this song plays. Gives yo chills.
Hope you get around to Soldier of 3 armies. I remember watching the 3 part history they did of that song.
Especially since I believe that Larry Thorn is also buried in Arlington National Cemetery.
Yes Lauri Allan Törni (Larry Thorne) is buried in Arlington National Cemetary; his name is also on the Vietnam War Memorial.
@@HALberdier17 thank you I had forgotten how to spell his actual name!
He said that in the vid
That I'm not too sure of. The man deserves to be remembered, but I don't think he is a man who should be honored since he willingly joined the same political party that killed tens of millions of civilians.
@@LordBaldur agreed
In an interview with Murphy after he got the MoH, he was asked what drove him to do what he did. He simply answered "They were killing my friends..." Being a veteran, what 1st Lt Murphy did and how he held himself hits home.
Thanks for reacting to this one. Audie Murphy is someone that I've always admired. A very compassionate human being but also very troubled. Lived in a time where where PTSD was rarely recognized or talked about. I always wonder what it must have been like for him to star in a movie about his own accomplishments given that they were during a time that must have been traumatic time for him to revisit. Unfortunately, from what I understand, he wrote tons of poems but discarded most of them. One thing thing not mentioned in the video is that Audie was on pretty hard times financially near the end of his life but he still turned down numerous offers to appear in tobacco or alcohol commercials because he didn't want to set a bad example for children.
Wanted to also mention that Spaghetti westerns were filmed in Italy, but I believe most of them were actually filmed in Spain. All three Dollars films were, from my understanding, primarily shot in Spain. Django was shot in Spain. Spain better resembled the American southwest like Texas or Mexico than Italy did. I think they're primarily referred to as spaghettis westerns because of their Italian directors and cast.
We would like an inmate 4859 and soilder of 3 armies reactions
Soldier of three armies is so good! Just found that one
As someone who has dealt with PTSD myself from my time overseas, I can understand exactly how he felt. Thankyou for your thanks as well, I and other veteran's appreciate it.
I never even thought of the connection of that "whistle" much before till you mentioned it and yeah that is a very common sound in a lot of Ennio Morricone's compositions for what in my opinion are 3 of the best Spaghetti Western movies, Fistful of Dollars, For a Few Dollars more and The Good The Bad and The Ugly aka the "Man With No Name" trilogy.
Late to this post. Joakim said in one interview that he wanted to do a song like a spaghetti Western, twangy, but didn't have a topic. Then, learning about Audie's story, he did have a topic. It's great to see the tank with Audie's name on it on the stage. It's like Joakim's albatross, that he travels with a tank named Audie.
Also, I notice while I was watching the movie To Hell and Back Audie Murphy's facial expressions and his "acting". To him, he was at war while everybody else was acting. Even the actors were afraid of him cause he would lash out unexpectedly.
Audie Murphy is one of the inspirations for David Morrell's book First Blood. Morrell noticed that people he know that came back from Vietnam had change so he started to look into it. His troubled war veteran also was name after a apple that was taken from Sweden by one of the very first Swedish colonist to America. The Swede was name Peter Gunnarsson Ramberg later change to Rambo. His surname Ramberg comes from his birthplace Ramberget in Gothenburg.
I don’t know how Audie could walk with the massive balls of tungsten he had.
I went to their concert last night in rosemont Chicago they ended with the same song it was so awesome and
Saw them opening for Amon Amarth on their Heroes tour and a fan ever since. I didn't realize the lyrics were based on Myrphy's writing.
I grew up not far from the site of Audie Murphy's plane crash. I went to the site after I graduated high school on July 4th of 2006. It was one of the most moving experiences of my life. Thinking about it almost two decades later still gets me emotional. Audie Murphy had courage but he also had character. That is just as, if not more, important. It's unfortunate that many of my friends today don't know who he was-- to which I am honored to share his story with them.
Reminds me of my Great Grandpa who I never met. My Dad told me he was WWII vet, who saw some pretty brutal and vicious combat in the Philippines and New Guinea, even got wounded during combat. He also told me that he was scared for the rest of his life by what he saw, having regular nightmares, but like most men back then, never got treatment. He died in 1994, eight years before I was born. I hope he is in a better place.
I thought you'd reacted to this one considering how good it is. Awesome to see more sabaton reactions tho
yeah i am very hyped
I love that you are doing sabaton videos keep up the good work! You will be at 1 mil in no time
I love the Sabaton History when his family thanked Sabaton for not doing an old times country western version.
When I was 19 years old I was complaining about bad internet and now there is this man... It is easy to learn about WW2 and it's history but I can't comprehend the horror it contained in the slightest. I love how this song shows what bravery can achieve but the story of this man also shows how luck based this whole war was for the individual soldier and what it does to people who survive that. Many stories about PTSD tell about people who blame themselves for surviving where their friends have fallen although they fought for that survival and were just as brave.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
Also I'd like to recommend Cliffs of Gallipoli from Sabaton since this is a story of a more unknown battleground of WW1 (a cruel fight and a massive waste of lives with a great gesture of the Ottomans) and one thing about Sabaton that I like the most is that they always manage to dig out those stories as well and with your addition of your knowledge and some fact from the world wide web this could be a blast!
Or, if you are interested in a little change of the scenery, 'A lifetime of war' is also a very good song about the 30 years war and what horrifying time that has been for the people. Having seen quite a few of your videos now I dare to say you might even try to suppress a tear while listening. Well at least I had to do that and it got me very engaged in the history of that time which I barely knew about. If I hear Carolus Rex now I can at least pretend to be informed. :)
Greetings from Germany
We are actually quite ok dudes now
If you haven't watched it yet, you can find his appearance on "What's My Line?" here on CZcams. If that's any indication, he was by far one of the humblest, most soft-spoken men you could ever meet. And he was still smaller than most, which is what led to him getting rejected several times by different branches when he tried to enlist (before the Army finally took him).
this gave me chills. my grandfather and his brothers were in the war, one of his brothers was KIA in france
Its both sad and great what happened to audie murphy. His actions were great and heroic but its sad that he and many others suffered and suffer from ptsd
It would be really nice to see a reaction to "Far from the Fame" song, about Karel Janoušek, one of the saddest stories told by Sabaton in my opinion.
As a history student myself, i have always found war stories to be the most interesting not because of the killing, but because of the emotional connection that the person telling the story makes with the listener. He is sharing one of the most personal experiences he ever had with you, an experience that he would like to forget as it was one of the worst things that a human could go through, yet he is sharing it with you.
My father was a soldier in a war, he did not talk about it much but he did share some of his war moments with me. It was mostly lighthearted moments that he shared like the one time when he was so tired that he fell asleep on a loud moving tank. However he did share his dark moments of the war a few times: once he told me that an enemy soldier was about to shoot him but his gun jammed so they went into cqc until my dad's comrades came and shot the enemy soldier. The other thing he told me was that his best friend got split in half by an artillery shell and that he died in his arms.
War is truely an experience that i wish noone had to go through, however, as history shows, war is something that we humans have quite a lot of experience with.
It's hard not to respect Sabaton's dedication to 20th century world history. It's not my wheelhouse just because it's too recent for me, but it's great to see Sabaton doing to younger people what bands like Maiden and Nile did for me growing up.
best line is "haunting my dreams, they're still there when i sleep"
I heard this song back when it was released but I didnt really know anything about it until they released the music video. And I'm not ashamed to say that it still brings tears to my eyes. Pretty much anything that has to do with people suffering from mental disorders that makes life living hell will always move me. As someone who suffers from very severe depression and bouts of suicidal ideations things like this will always move me very deeply. But I also do realise that no matter how bad I personally have it there will always be alot of people that have it a whole lot worse. I cannot imagine the mental damage the world wars would inflict the soldiers with. It's one of the reasons I guess I am kinda glad that here in Sweden you are prohibited by law from joining any of the armed forces if you have any trace or show increased likelyhood for mental illness. I remember when I applied to the army here and was denied due to my depression I was actually really angry. I did feel kinda betrayed that some words on a piece of paper would dictate what I could and couldn't do with my life. But the more I thought about it I did realise that its both for my own safety and kinda for the safety of others. I mean due to the fact that I am prone to bouts of suicidal thoughts and plans I don't wanna know how bad that would get if I was allowed to go into the army and were to see actual combat. It's very disheartening to see how military veterans who end up with these mental scars does get treated in some places. I do wish that there was an easy way to help these people, to make it okay but that is the horrors of war, it changes you, you see stuff you couldnt believe and sadly it's not something that is easy to just push to the side for alot of people. But yeah I do always enjoy watching your reaction its fun because I do end up learning stuff that I never even thought about looking into. Just keep up the great work. And I do hope that you get around to Sabaton's song saboteurs one day its a really great song that seems to be pretty criminally underrated, not alot of people mention it
Yarnhub actually made a video of Audey Murphy's Metal of Honor citation.
This was the song that got me hooked on Sabaton(at that point i knew the story behind this) appreciate you doing a reaction on it :)
Also you could consider reacting to the Song Titled Midway(very obvious whats it about)
Something I wish was noticed on, is just how painful would it have been to return and play in these movies, in the same places he fought. To return, to act like he once was years ago. How did he feel?
CROSSES GROW ON ANZIO WHERE NO SOLDIER SLEEPS AND WHERE HELL'S SIX FEET DEEP
That death does wait
There's no debate
So charge and attack
Going to hell and back
That was a great video, I'd really like to see your perspective on song "inmate 4859"
That story has fascinated me many times over and over
You got me to rewatch To Hell and Back after all these years. There wasn't a John Rambo, but there was an Audie Murphy!!!!
Wow I can’t believe I hadn’t heard of him till now. I’m picking up the Movie and the Book. 👍
I remember the story of him, i saw the film years ago but never new the story of his ptsd struggles.
This was the song that got me into Sabaton.
I learned that the sabaton tanks they use for tour, are actually called Audie and Murphy
the unit i was assigned to was third infantry division,second brigade,1-64 armor.yes audie murphy did a book and a movie.
my job while in the army was a 19k(m1a1 abrams crewman)
1-64AR was back in WW2 the 758th which was the first all black tank unit and jackie robinson was a tank commander in that unit as well as the 761st.
my grandfather's brother Don Newcombe pitched for the brooklyn dodgers back in the 40's and 50's .
my grandfather norman newcombe served as a paratrooper with the 82nd airborne in WW2
my father was a marine as well,my grandmother's brother jimmy served in the air force
but thank you for shedding light on this with audie murphy.war and military service changes people and sometimes it's not always visible
Thanks for your post and all the information!
Oh man I'm so glad that you've done this.
Thank you.
Its been said that veterans with ptsd never rlly went home after the war. They're in some way, some part of them, is still there in the battlefield, where their friends died, with the horrible things they've seen and did.
They never rlly fully got out, which is rlly heartbreaking.
He expunged a bit of his movie because Hollywood wouldn't let him show that graphic a depiction of combat in the 50s but its still a great film regardless.
Damn! You give me a new light on the song! Thanks and greatings from Sweden 🇸🇪🇺🇸💪🏼
Was everyone going nuts when they heard the whistle at the start of the song
Yes.
Thanks for this perfect video, greetings from Spain
Love your videos man, greetings from Sweden.
It's good to see u reacting to more sabatons! Keep it up man, there are more to react to 👍👍👍👍
Great stuff!
You should check out Soldier of 3 Armies. Lauri Allan Törni who the song is about is buried at Arlington aswell. Facsinating story about a man fighting in different wars for different countries.
When reality trumps fiction...
Awesome reaction Chris.
If there's anyone here who has not yet seen Band of Brothers (produced by Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks) it's worth getting at least a trial subscription to HBO (or HBO Max) to watch it. I only watched it recently because I thought it was just going to be a boring mini-series spinoff of Private Ryan. I was wrong. It's the opposite. Five times better than Ryan. True stories of the 101st paratroopers dropped in on D-Day through the end of the war as told by the people who were there, shown in short interviews before each episode. It's exceptionally well done. It's traumatic.
BoB and The Pacific are amazing. there's another one in the works centered around the 8th Air Force
Yep. Masters of the Air is filming in the UK as we speak.
To Soldier means two things: bloody sacrifice, physical and mental, unto death and utter servitude, irrespective of rank.
My paternal grandfather served in the eastern front of WW2 (we never fought [I believe] the western allies, they 'just' bombed us, like at the siege of Budapest), not as a front soldier, but he still served there. I don't remember percisely what he was doing, I only new this, because my father told me, I never asked my grandfather, because I was little back then (he died in 2008 at the age of 91, he was born in 1917. I was 8 at the time, I am 21 currently [as of 2021]). My maternal great grandfather (my granddad's dad) and my other great grandfather (my garndmother's) both served in the eastern front, both as foot soldiers, at the river Don. One of my great grandfathers (my granddad's dad) never came back (my granddad was born in 1940. he never kbown his father. I don't know, and don't want to know, how hard it must have been for him, I never asked). My other great grandfather (grandma's dad) did survive that, but later he ended up captured, but he managed to escape. He was never caught. As of now (2021) both of my maternal grandparents are still alive. (granddad is 81 years old, my grandma is 85 years old [she was born in 1936]). My respect to all of you veterans out there who reads this comment, and my condolences to those, who lost someone close to them in any wars. Greetings from just a boy from Hungary
From what I hear Audie Murphy's grave is the 2nd most visited grave at Arlington... The 1st being JFK
"Let them fall face down, if they must die, making it easier to say goodbye."
and
"They're haunting my dreams they're still there when I sleep!"
are lines the move me to my core
I recommend also Far from the fame. Sabaton history channel made a special episode about it. Strong story of one quite forgotten man unfortunately.
this song is so good!
it is my favorate so far
HI I love Sabaton too
My favourite song is the last stand, future of warfare, and basically anything in the great war, and the last stand album
same
I've this movie that you mentioned. It's awesome, as the song
As an Irishman I'm proud of our Diaspora. Audie Murphy is the Pinnacle of "The Fighting Irish". Regards the Maracone music - To me that sounds like a Traditional Irish tune!!! May he finds the peace in Death that he never got in life. May he Rest in Peace!!!
Don’t forget to put a coin on top of his head stone. They like to know you stopped by.
please can you make a video explaining what made you a WBA fan, would be interesting as WBA is my local team and I rarely see people from other countries support the baggies.
Yeyyyyy more sabatonnnn
You should react to sabaton's royal gaurd or seven pillars of wisdom. Both are amazing songs
People often say not many could do what he did. But it always makes me wonder if that is true. I would bet that hundreds and maybe thousands of men did the exact same thing except they didn't have the luck that seems to distinguish heroes. The vast majority of the unknown heroes probably were killed quickly or were shot before they could fulfill their full objective or having only partially achieved their objective. The simple odds of bullets missing versus bullets striking someone, or wounding versus killing someone. I am not trying to diminish what Audey did but I just think there are probably thousands of untold stories that would have been similar except a ricochet, or lucky shot, or an accurate shot cut that story short. Anyone willing to stand and fight in battle is dammed badass. It is similar to the story of the Canadian that captured an entire town full of Germans through sheer balls and bravery, but at any time he could have been discovered and shot.
Leo Major is one of my favorite war heroes. And I agree with you. Audie Murphy was a straight badass. But that doesn’t mean there weren’t a thousand others. I don’t believe in an afterlife, but I’d love the thought of the thousand luckless souls sitting around campfires alongside the thousand lucky ones that called the reaper’s bluff. They all deserve to be remembered
Audie would be the first person to agree with everything you wrote. He appreciated the job opportunities that his fame gave him, that he could support his family, but he hated being called a hero. He always considered the heroes to be the ones who didn't make it back. For Arlington, due to his medals, he qualified for a fancy tombstone with gold to designate he had a Medal of Honor. But a few months before he died, he visited Arlington and told them to give him a plain headstone, like so many other regular soldiers. So, his headstone is plain.
Really nice content i´be been following you from early of this year.
Be sure to visit Larry Thorne´s grave when going for to Arlington site. Only member of SS-group to be bury in that site
Also a Sabaton song " Soldier of three army" is about him.
Greetings from Finland.
I remember yarnhub made a video about him, same as sabaton history whit indie reading the poem
React to Rise of evil. Probably their best (musically) song
I Wish you do Carolus Rex that is my fav.1.
Ptsd is just awful. A friend of mine, who is served with over in Afghanistan took his own life because of what we say and did. I can't recommend enough to go seek help. We didn't fight the battles alone, no need to fight the one in your head alone as well.
also soldier of 3 armies it's abotu Lauri Törni's the guy who served in 3 armys
Murphy's son was happy for the song, since it wasent another country song about his dad
I must confess, I didn't "see" the spaghetti western vibe of the song until they mentioned it on Sabaton History. Yep, I can be obtuse...
On a kinda related note, last week I visited Wörgl/Tyrol and Josef Gangl's grave. :)
Awesome. That's a place I want to visit someday.
Great reaction! Love your content! You always bring so much extra into your reactions which I think make yours the best. I would love you to start reacting to the album Carolus Rex. What I love most about Sabaton is how they bring History into song, and honor those who fought.
P.S. If you want to see a great fan-made video from Sabaton's latest song Steel Commanders that shows many animated tanks from WWI to the Korean War then check this out. czcams.com/video/ru1QekrZcKo/video.html
Aw little Audey Murphy
claim you here before an hour ticket
can you do midway by Sabaton
Can you please go to Arlington Cemetery during the weekend? So I can meet up?
Great video as always!
You should react to 'Seven Pillars of Wisdom' by sabaton, in my opinion its understandable, historical, and a very good song!
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I like the spaghetti western tone
there some good songs we need white death, wolf pack,
Please React to Kings and Generals Darius and The Great Lie
one man army
Holding off tanks and infantry
Day 2 of asking you to react to Smoking Snakes by Sabaton :)
Hearts of Iron next please!
Actually the most decorated US soldier was Matt Urban (Mateusz Urbanowicz) a son of immigrants from Poland :) its even mentioned in World Records Guinnes Book.
Depends on how you define most decorated. Murphy received several medals that Urban did not, including the DSC (second only to MoH) while Urban received multiples of some lesser awards that Murphy only received one of. Urban also did not receive his MoH (and several other medals) until 1980, long after the war, so Murphy had already been known about for decades before Urban even was awarded the MoH.
I think the footage for the music video is very misleading though
The Real Captain America
Yep. I thought the same thing.
You should do a reaction video to "We Didn't Start the Fire" by Billy Joel.
Harry truman, doris day, Red china, Johnnie ray
@@renato809 South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe Dimaggio
@@Panzer-535 joe Mccarthy, Richard nixon, studebaker, television
I'm not 100% sure but I thought "spaghetti westerns" were called that not because they were filmed in Italy; but rather that they were directed by Italian immigrants.
I personally don't really like the song. I don't know why, but it just doesn't hit me like other Sabaton songs do. I had the same thing with Steel Commanders. While not a bad song, I just don't really enjoy it. The story of Audie Murphy is a very interesting one though.
Been loving the channel lately, awesome to see how fast you’ve grown! Would be really nice to see a reaction on Union (slopes of st. Bennedict). A song which most people on here will never have heard.