40k Stories - Legions: The Word Bearers
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- The Word Bearers are the original heretics, the first to fall to Chaos during the Great Crusade. Led by Lorgar Aurelian, they caused swathes of destruction during the Horus Heresy. This is their story.
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"If you look at this chart here, you can see that the Emperor sucks, hence why you should join Chaos." -Word Bearer Chaos Space Marine
Pyroskies alright... but what are the opportunities chaos can offer?
Pyroskies The truth, go into the warp brother just like i do you will see..
Once i was blind fool following a dead body but now im free and blessed by Khorne and Nurgle
UnhumanRampage (the warp rumbles as hundreds of thousands of daemons spirit the blessed form of a dark apostle,clad in armor of blackest night,and cloaked In the flesh of heathens,through the empyrean.hundreds of warp storms burst into existence as a massive warp gate,held open by daemon hands,opens before the dog that dares claim the blood god and the father of pestilence smile upon his worthless form.from the rifts comes he,the golden skinned warrior-preacher,favored of the pantheon,lord of two hundred worlds and father of the godsworn reborn,''tis he...''tis the blessed...''tis dark apostle lord erinium eriner) *kneel,my son* (sayeth he,his scripture inked hands held out in fatherly welcome)
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Erebus: the first traitor, and responsible for the entire Horus Heresy... despite kind of sucking. These are scenes that almost literally happened during the Horus Heresy novels:
Interex: You stole one of our secret weapons!
Horus: No we didn't!
Erebus: Yeah, why would we steal the Anathame?
Magnus: Horus, don't listen to him! He's lying to you!
Erebus: No, Horus, don't listen to him! That's not really Magnus, it's a shapeshifting daemon!
Magnus: *Shoots lightning at Erebus*
Erebus: Look! He's using sorcery when the Emperor commanded him not to! You can't trust him.
Horus: I thought you said he was a shapeshifting daemon. The Emperor commanded a shapeshifting daemon not to use sorcery?
Erebus: Uh... I might have been lying about that part.
Having read and listened too virtually every HH novel, audiodrama, etc. I think any notion of Erebus or Kor Phaeron having any real influence over any of the traitor Primarchs is laughable. Spoiler: Kor Phaeron drops a bombshell at the end of the Primarchs "Lorgar" novel. Lorgar had been using Kor Phaeron virtually the entire time. There are numerous hints of this throughout the book.
Ted Culbertson I never read 40k book but if these lines you wrote are from book .... daaaam this books must be LAME :/
@@Hangman1 they aren't.
@@WordBearer86 Erebus was slick, you can see how he gets the Luna Wolves on his side with the lodges, sparring in the cages, etc. and the Primarchs were weak, each in their own way. And frankly, the sons of Horus are mostly idiots, and same with the Emperors Children. I dont think manipulating either of those legions would be rocket science. Erebus got Typhon on his side by teaching about the Warp. You have to realize, the Warp was sort of "helping" Erebus manipulate these warriors and Primarchs and he was playing to their weaknesses. The books show that. Besides, it didn't take long for them to get sick of him anyway, after a few fuckups, like Signus Prime and Calth (and of course, killing Argel Tal didn't help his popularity)
@@paulbarton4395 yea killing argel Tal was shit he was do cool character
One day, I wish that the Imperium of Man can decide how to pronounce Robute Guilliman's name.
Roboute* spelling it properly helps pronunciation :D
Everyone knows it's actually pronounced "Row-boat Girly-man". ;)
@@MichaelHill-sg8ks or rawbutt girlyman
Dawn Of Doge Hellcase I've settled on Row-boot Gilly-man
"Pah-puh Smərf"
Lorgar founded the Imperial Cult AND is responsible for the Heresy and fall to chaos. That's a helluva resume.
The Emperor could have done much more to stop this from happening.
Good summary of the Word Bearers. Only thing to point out is you say you couldn't find a loyalist Word Bearer. Look up Barthusa Narek. He first appears in Vulkan Lives and then again in The Unremembered Empire. Basically he's a Word Bearer who is pretty disgusted at how Lorgar has debased and dishonoured the legion by embracing Chaos, and hatches a plan to kill Lorgar and therefore restore the honour of the Word Bearers.
Nick Cronin *the fool failed* (Sayeth the dark apostle)
The Word Bearer's trilogy were the first novels that pull me into the 40k universe. They continue to be my all time favorite legion.🔥
merry Christmas I enjoyed how your not just telling lore but make it into a story. it's different than all the other lore channels I've listened too great job keep up the greatness and have asafe holidays
Thank you, and a merry Christmas to yourself as well.
I must admit I'd never heard of your channel until the podcast but you have become one of my favorite channel
Now that more info has come to light, we now know that Lorgar wasnt in the battle of Terra
Awesome. Looking forward to some of forthcoming AOS content too mate. Its what lured me back into the hobby and into the loving embrace of Nurgle. Papa bless
Great vid Michael, as always!
So what your saying is this is the emperor's fault
He could have reacted better
@@DaytonaRoadster Like talking to Lorgar, in private, as to how he doesn't want to be seen as a God, instead of burning his life's work in front of the 13th.
If the Primarchs are aspects of the Emperor, Lorgar might have been the part of him that bought into his own hype (or more cynically, the part of him that didn't bother hiding it).
Peteman C he was his desire to save humanity,his wish to see mankind risen above the other lesser races in the Galaxy
Partigrade Cannon
I believe Lorgar to be:
Emperor’s desire to save humanity as a whole
Emperor’s idealism
Emperor’s desire to believe (he wanted to believe in humanity)
#blameLorgar
zlboyle90 #blameErebus
#blametheEmperor
zlboyle90 #blamekorphearon
zlboyle90 #deathtothefalseemperor
It might have been fine if the emperor had let Lorgar build the roads and shit that he wanted too while getting him to tone down on the while religion thing.
I think the best example of the irony of Lorgar creating the imperial creed is in the 2nb Black Legion book where a group of Legionaries first find out about the Imperiums worship of the Emperor and there reaction is to just burst out laughing
That scene was great! Lyras laughed so hard, he started vomiting.
The Word Bearers themselves are kind of boring but Lorgar, I find, one of the most fascinating and complicated primarchs. The nature / nurture question of the primarchs personalities is so important here because if, as I believe, Lorgar was built to look beyond the secular truth, then why the hell did the emperor make him and treat him so badly?
Great vids btw. Subscibing right now.
Peter Quint that is a fair point, I'm working on that exact video at the moment and so I'll take that consideration on board. Thanks for your support!
Lorgar's charisma and stories bleeds so well into his legion that it makes the word bearers so nice.
His interaction and relationship with argel tal, kor phaeron, erebus, and even Kharn.
I wish I could sub twice man you deserve it...quality stuff
Great WH 40k lore channel - subbed 👍.
Definitely time for an update of these ❤️
gman:so the book is called the lectitio divinita-.................
bjorn:guilaman?
gman: almost every religous person is literally folowing lorgars teachings pre heresy. ..............oh. that would explain a damm lot for what its worth
bjorn:yeah,definitely. ... fucking hell our jobs suck.
gman:if lion wakes up,remind me to wake you up later to go get us the fuck out.
bjorn: noted
Actually, when Kairos's heads spoke to Lorgar, one lied and one told the truth. By claiming that sparing Guilliman will ensure the victory of chaos, one head lied, since Chaos ”lost” the siege and the war, when the other spoke truth, since it allowed for the stalemate of the last 10k year, which Chaos wanted. Thus, Kairos's heads just did their usual business, one lying and one being truthful. Chaos, and especially Kairos, are all about the duality of things. A word spoken/contract signed can be turned 180 instantly.
And vice versa: if Lorgar had killed Guilliman, the Ultramarines propably would not have regrouped, Horus might not have made the shield gambit and the traitors might have won. If so, and if the theory is correct, Horus would have, out of shame and spite, engineered a war so bloody as to eradicate humanity from the galaxy, thus denying the gods their primary food source (as humanity was heavily invested into by them) and thus, resulting in the defeat of Chaos.
Thus, it was either defeat then victory or victory then defeat. Kairos spoke both two lies and two truths.
awesome stuff mate
Thank you Nick!
great video thank you
I love the way you narrate you do it so perfect you need to do more of these like a lot more, you deserve 1,000,000 subscribers others just name facts and some do reviews you make me feel as if I'm sitting in the class of an Inquisitor going over a ordo hereticus lesson in.999M41
Love the “legion” mini series. A sub for u
Well, time to slap that like button again, and finally sub to this channel.
Thanks for the support!
Lorgar must be cooking up something truly crazy if he's been shacked up in his super-death-temple for ten millennia. Probably would have been a good idea to emerge every so often and let people know he was still around (and eeevil), though.
Word Bearers - Traitorous Badasses
Great video, really looking forward to the rest of the mini series 👍
I don't think that Fate Weaver actually told the truth, they both used the same words, but I think that it was both true and untrue, a key intersection and choice point.
A demon's job is to decieve and compel their victims.
The Emperor doesn't do finesse well, does he?
Pronounced Coal-chiss.
King Baldwin IV
I believe it was the truth. Chaos pretty much won the Heresy if you think about it, and killing Guilliman would have nulled the Imperium Secundus which would in turn mean Lion and Sanguinius would’ve taken their legions to Terra to help out thereby winning the war for the loyalists.
great vid
Finally! Someone is doing lore videos on thr Traitor Legions.
Have yah read the first heretic book? Great book and puts more light on things for example the serrated sun chapter went into the eye of terror alone as essentially guinea pigs where they became possessed. Further more Argal Tal's vision was actually him "dying" under Corax's wings on isstavan. I'm guessing the book was maybe not out when you made this video but it sheds some light on what happened and the word bearers as a whole
great job
i think ur word play and voice acting is fun since its not too overbearing and tastefully done
because demons lol
will you do a post heresy Legions video on the Word Bearers ?
Lewis Horswell maybe, I plan to do up to the end of the heresy for every legion because of the chapters that came after. I may go back to the traitors post heresy at some point, but I make no promise
I dont know if this will reach you but if it does could you maybe tell me a bit more about Zardu Layak of the word bearers? There is just not much lore I can find on the internet about him.
this was my suggestion 😃
I like the first image, he looks really BA.
I’ve read The First Heretic, are there any other good Word Bearer-related books?
If you haven't read them, Know no fear is great, although told from Ultramarine perspective about how the battle of Calth played out and then also Betrayer, which details the shadow crusade with the Word Bearers and World Eaters as the main players.
Betrayer and aurelian
But why the aesthetic must be skulls ?
argel taal is so cool *.*
eomerseored "tal" and yes he was
I think Emps, being pragmatic, probaly assumed the worship was due to the low technology on the planet when he arrived. He probably figured it was lack of education and would fade as they learned that what they were seeing was technology, not magic. poor emps is just clueless about human nature.
I loved it when Kharn beat the shot out of Erebus, mmmmm so satisfying.
He didn't beat him, he destroyed him.
suggestion would like th hear about the Alpha Legion
Sean Mcdonald I'll be covering all 18 legions at some point, but I'll bump the 20th up my list
do you have plans for second onwards foundings?, I wish to see your take's on the supposed loyalist descendants of traitor legions, the soul drinkers and the weird chapters like the Exorcists
Sigismund, The Emperor's Champion not yet, legions is my priority. I may cover said chapters during the non-legion weeks as I won't be doing legions every week
I think your saying the lord of ultramars name wrong
I love the word barers and emperor children and the thosuond sons I play 30k thousond sons :)
Lorgar did nothing wrong.
For a while, I wanted to make a fan chapter that was secretly descended from loyalist Word Bearers... but I'm already committed to my Alpha legion army.
I always thought it was world bears
Who’s gwillyman?
'All i ever wanted was the truth'
Wait so both Kairoz Fateweaver heads lied? Lorgar just had to kill Reboute. Getting his revenge AND making the heresy forces stronger on Terra. Those goals go head-in-head. The demon made the heresy fail on purpose?
No, they both told the truth. They stated specifically that killing Guilliman would cost the traitors the war, but putting it aside would perhaps help toward a victory. It wasn't as black and white as I may have accidentally made it seem.
I though it goes to that theory that Chaos actually won because the emperor is functionally dead, the Empire in decline in a medieval like state and humanity is empowering chaos like never.
no the deal was
you can either kill Guilliman and let your own hatred destroy you
or
put aside your petty hate towards him and help build something greater (Lorgar thought it meant a humanity in a symbiotic relationship with chaos)
Cut me up primitive
I'd die like a slave.
Riding on the wings of that jesus snake.
Lorgar aka Best Boy
davin didn't fall, it never rose in the first place.
,,Chaos ! Because the Emperor sucks‘‘ 😄
woo
Colchis is supposed to be pronounced Kol-KH-is
its pronounced an/ath/a/meee like anatomy anathame is a witches ceremonial dagger knife or blade sorry but after the third time hearing it wrong it had to be said dude
Tim Young that sounds very odd, certainly not the phonetic pronunciation in my opinion. I will check that, and in later videos I may correct it.
GAWILLYMAN
youre gonna hav to do it all again lol
Should have purged the legion from the start like the other 2
Aveh Hereticus
Only primarchs have ascended to daemonhood...
Damn, no Eliphas
Because he opened a portal.
#lorgardidnothingwrong
Quattro 4 #agreedbrotherpraisstheurizen
James.T .Adams #lorgardideverythingwrong
Jamie Williams #deathtothefalseemperor
FUCK YOU
Lorgar did everything wrong
And came out more powerful than any of his brothers.
Richter Aurelian he has effectively become a daemon prince AND the everchosen of the chaos gods,so yes,he is essentially a god himself at this point
Rather... everything right?
@@TheCorrodedMan if thats the case how did he almost die to corax in the warp?
Sanchopanzer Jr You can’t kill a Daemon Prince. You can only banish them to the warp.
Aveh Heretic!!!
Lorgar and Fulgrim are tied for my least liked//most unliked Primarchs...
nope... the word bearers were the one's to conquer Cadia...
Part of me feels bad for Lorgar, but I do agree, he and the Word Bearers are so bland. I do also question WHY Big E didn't smack Lorgar's hand a few more times before Menarcia (spelling?) to ensure his zealous son didn't go to Chaos, but sometimes subtly doesn't work, I suppose.
Monarchia, and he did keeping his Custodes around him but Chaos/Erebus work with subtlety so before they knew it they had possessed marines attacking them
also the highly controversial Master of Mankind sees the Emperor explaining how he assumed the Primarchs would realize Chaos was dangerous on it's own by the known treats both warp travel and astropaths/navigators had which were common knowledge even if they didn't know it was daemons.
he even goes saying that if it would've made any difference if he just called them daemons instead of "xenos from the warp" which was the colloquial term.
Nathan Marcano you didnt read the books did ya. nigga argel yal and erabus also lorgar are great characters with depth. its helps you understand the background if 40k. that infact it is a unuverse with gods and an afterlufe except gods are evil. know this like the big e knew and shit gets real real soon. while other legions like space wolves are going on their lives without a clue what the the primordial reality is. hence why the eldar failed as a civilazation . they couldnt handle the fact that hell was real and demons were god.
@@Sigismund697 word bearers and lorgar bland?🤣🤣 someone doesnt know the lore
@@childrenofthesun471 I don't think they are bland thought
Hi, 3 years from the future
@@Sigismund697 Yeah People who think word bearers and lorgar are bland probably dont know the lore, and the things they do to the enemies
+KNEEL+
blaim lorgar!
#blamelorgar
ha!!I thought so!!,
#blame eribus and # blame kor pheron.
Lex Luther!
Really nice lore collection, I've not read the Word Bearers books yet. But please.. stop pronouncing Guilliman as Gwilliman.. Try Gullyman.. As per Jervis Johnson.
damit man what are you and what are you on? Your character image is a tau earth cast scientist in a battle suit, but you are saying here you are on a craft world, which can't get even remotely near a demon world, and what is "translating a craftworld"? They can't go into the webway in most places, to dam big, and the warp is just straight up suicide. Craftworlds can only move at sub-light speeds so its not like you can quickly fly away from a system.
Derpacis it's a small craft world, and being earth caste (and psychic - just roll with it) i was able to modify a few things. Admittedly, I should have looked more into how craftworlds actually work, but hey, fan fiction doesn't always have to make 100% sense as much as I follow canon otherwise
I don't know if you are handed a script of what to read on your videos, but in almost everyone, you are missing so many key components to the stories. Don't know if you just started down this path, but you aren't as well rounded as you should be on these subjects.
Oh, and btw, the emperor was NOT concerned about the worship by the Word bearers. He was concerned by the amount of time spent in compliance of the conquered worlds.
His efficiency was extremely low compared to all his brothers and the Emperor wasn't having it.
Great, destroy whole planet only to humiliate one idiot in the eyes of his brothers, “god” emperor zombie on golden chair 👍
For a being that’s supposedly a super-genius Lorgar failed to make the obvious distinction between “they exist” and “they deserve worship”. He went straight to “they deserve worship because they exist”, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Lorgar also seemed wedded to his “Chaos symbiosis” idea even though all extant facts said Chaos would never honor it.
the word bearers legion is the least interesting out of all of them, save perhaps the Ultramarines. i did enjoy the part where Angron was turned but the rest of not only Lorgars lore but his legions as well was - as you put it so eloquently: little more than cheating their way out of shit..
Primach Pepe wtf. did you not read the first heratic or betrayel. there isnt any bigger bromance than between kharn and argel tal. also those moments where angron kicked leman russ shit in, and lorgar becoming one of the most powerful primarchs save Magnus and maybe sanguinius.
i have read the one with the bromance between Argel Tal and Kharn - and i only enjoyed the parts where Argel Tal was whenever there were word bearers around. i have yet to read the other one
I think the Sisters of Battle are kind of an inside joke among the Word Bearers.
xxlCortez considering that they frequently ritual rape whole companies of Sisters, yes
The Baron's Mad Mustache when has it been stated the word bearers do this we are perfectly honourable
Dark Apostle Nemeroth well in your own trilogy my dude
@Theant19 Gw's inconsistency strikes again. My citing the Word Bearers trilogy by Anthony Reynolds, where Marduk and the bois got some action.
@Theant19 They raped and skinned and chopped them up slowly over the course of months. How is that easy?
#blameLorgar