People seem to struggle with how this system actually works. Your internet speed does not need to be greater than what it takes to for instance stream a 4k video from youtube, essentially, you are receiving a personal Livestream from google of your game being rendered on their servers. The biggest issue is latency, their system has to wait for your controller to give a signal of what to do, then has to render that action and then send it to your phone/Chromecast. Each step in that chain has a lag factor, mostly from your house to their servers. That is an issue with your internet provider and google has no power over that. Once we have near to zero latency from fibre providers, stadia will improve immensely.
This take makes no sense... the latency is integral to the experience of this product. If the experience sucks, that reflects bad on the product. You can’t explain that away..
@@adhi02 my pc is crap it cant run fornite on it but somehow I was able to play stadia at 1080p 60 fps super smooth so yes I agree what is this madness 😂👍. After that I got chromecast ultra with stadia controller and it's all i play now.
You made some good points and overall agree with you but I think you missed the mark when critizing Stadia's game library. I think it's fair to compare Stadia's first year with PS1, original xbox and Nintendo. If you are comparing first year games number Stadia beat them all but obviously you can't compare chapter one in the first book to chapter 10 on the 5th book in a series.
I see what you’re saying, and agree. The issue I see is consumers are going to compare and make their purchasing choices based on that. They don’t care that it’s their first year, they just want to play all the games they want to play. Think about Netflix clearly leading the streaming video market. When a new player like Disney plus comes in they have to offer a compelling library on day one or people don’t care at all and pass.
@@TheSearchForAwesome Yes but there is a big difference in reality and expectations with the later always being more than what will ever be delivered. I wish my PS5 had all the biggest Sony exclusives day one and Stadia to have the entire collection of games from generations past. In reality for a first year gaming platform it has done better than any other in the amount of games launched and Stadia doesn't get any credit for it because of expectations.
You make a good point. I think it’s fair to give them credit for making something that works well, but also to criticize for shortcomings like the library being almost all games that have been on other platforms for a while. It’s okay they don’t have a lot of originals, but I feel they need fresh new 3rd party games to drive interest. They did get cyberpunk so that’s good. I didn’t get into this in the video, but Google chose to use Linux as the OS for Stadia. Linux is great and everything but most games don’t work on Linux so I imagine they have to be reworked to work on Stadia. I’m just theorizing here, but that could be why they don’t have more developers jumping on Stadia. If that’s true, then day one Google may have shot themselves in the foot. Luna runs on windows which has better game support so we’ll see how much that makes a difference in getting devs on board. We’ll see, I hope Stadia can turn things around.
@@TheSearchForAwesome those games you have to be stuck in the house with no life to play them with them huge downloads and installs and can't play on any device like on Stadia. Also Stadia started off with 20 something games now has over 100 nothing happens overnight even these new consoles are lacking games to take full potential of them right now
That's true. But can you honestly say a year from now PS5 and Xbox will only have a catalog of 150 or so games (which is about how many Stadia has) when they are a year old? My guess is they have 500 + and if you include backwards compatible games, they already have way more than 100 games on day one. I get it may not be fair to compare a year old platform to a platform that's over a decade old, but that's who they are competing with, no?
Honestly - I'm a fan of all things gaming - and have always been a PC-First type of guy, but Stadia has reignited a spark for gaming that I haven't felt in years. Been in the PC 'build scene' for the last 15-20 years...and just...burned out. Just tired of the shuffle of new hardware - especially in the SSD/disk space territory (and now the GPU realm). The fact that you can be up and running in a game in seconds flat is astounding - game changing really. You can game pretty much on any device with a WiFi connection...or a stable 4G connection. No downloads, just play. It changed the way I think about future systems (both PC and consoles) Playing Cyberpunk 2077, Destiny 2 and hell even the excellent Stadia-Exclusive Outcasters has been absolutely brilliant - and incredibly smooth in higher resolutions (4k with 5.1 surround). Also, instantly streaming to CZcams is a pretty sweet extra feature that I can only see them expanding on. I definitely see other contenders coming in the industry - but I feel Google is just hitting their stride.
@Zack Smith minor visual dips here and there . I get provided 500mb/s but sometimes it goes down to 100 or lower. But way better that I can get on any machine for free. 10 dollars after the month.
No deals hell I got borderlands 3 ultimate edition a 120 dollar game for 10.50 so im not sure where you are not seeing deals at they usually have amazing deals 🤔
I briefly mentioned they do offer deals if you have pro, but didn’t elaborate on that. I was echoing what other have said that you have to pay full price which is true sometimes, but not all the time. I was actually impressed with the sales in December, but I didn’t know that when I wrote this video.
@@TheSearchForAwesome ah ok I gotcha but yes I really enjoy stadia now more than ever they are stepping it up but do still need a bit more to fully be ahead
I have to say, Stadia is amazing! My kids were on the "hate for no good reason" train until the family plan came out last month. Now they're hogging up all my bandwidth! LOL
I play Stadia on my tv with chromecast ultra just wifi. It actually runs better than my PS4 did using just wifi... I also have 4 other people living with me all using wifi on multiple devices and everyone is usually here constantly using their devices on the wifi and my Stadia runs just fine. I even listen to music on CZcams as i game.
The business model argument is really confusing to me. So people are upset that you don’t own the game just a license to a game but then turn around and praise the Luna business model where you lose access to games if you don’t pay a subscription. Also with Luna you will need to subscribe to multiple channels to get all the games you want like having multiple streaming video services. Also with stadia you can buy Ubisoft+ which probably won’t be the only publisher to do a service like that. I prefer the stadia model because I’d rather buy the individual games myself and it’s no different then say buying a digital album on Apple Music or CZcams music or whatever.
True. I definitely agree here. I have no idea what business model makes more sense. I think it comes down to what provides the most quality gaming per dollar. For movies and shows, I definitely prefer the Netflix model over buying dvds and blu rays. Not sure if I will feel that way for gaming.
I don't perceive stadia as an "Alternative" but as an addition for the big story titles like CP2077 or AC while I use my Switch for the more casual stuff
Wow, your a hater! Stadia is amazing, Cyberpunk 2077 is the proof that it can handle demanding games, the future looks amazing on Stadia! The reason the older games of past years aren't on Stadia is because Stadia is still building a user base, to have studios waste money on porting older games to a not yet large user base does not make business sense, but that time will come, so with that said, slow and steady will win the race!!
Glad to hear you like stadia. The Tech is awesome and I'm not here to dispute that. I just don't think it's compelling for mainstream yet because it doesn't have nearly as many games as other platforms they are trying to compete with. I will say what gives me hope that stadia might make it is people like you and several others that are defending it. Im truly surprised at how much support stadia has and I think it's great. I genuinely hope Stadia turns things around and gets into the same conversation as PS5 and Xbox. After a year of me paying for stadia, I just don't see it happening, but I hope I'm wrong. If I'm a hater for that, then I guess I'm a hater
@@TheSearchForAwesome you need educate people and make them understand that porting old games onto something that is brand new like Stadia with not as big a user base yet is not worth the money or effort it will cost a developer studio to port that game to Stadia.
That's true. It probably doesn't make sense for some devs to make the effort financially so either stadia has to pay them or do a better job in getting more players so the devs want their games on Stadia. It's a chicken and egg problem. They need a nice catalog to get plays to want stadia, buy it's tough to get a nice catalog when they don't have as many players as large platforms. This is one of the reasons I don't know if Stadia will catch on with a ton of players. I have my doubts, but I hope I'm wrong.
@@TheSearchForAwesome I guess that is why Stadia paid 10 million for the new "Resident Evil" games coming. If anybody has the money, Google does!! They also have their own games being developed by their own studios for the next two years, promising over 400 games, so we'll see, I believe they'll be more than fine! People just need to hang on and remember that Xbox and Sony started slow too. Thanks to Cyberpunk people are beginning to believe! Stadia for life!!
Your video was good but there's a few things I want to clarify: It's got free demos, free to play games, a free trial of its pro tier all without the need for a credit card, and have been giving away free premier edition boxes with cyberpunk and CZcams premium. So how are they not giving away games and hardware like you said you wished they did? So many developers have expressed how they like working on games for Stadia and the platform has 400 new games coming in the next few years. There wasn't many games on launch because it's not running Windows PCs which is the easy way to start a new gaming service. It's literally a new platform like the switch is to the ps5. Your whole engine needs to support the platform first. And as the platform updates, your game engine needs to support those updates. Also, writing their own platform from scratch is the best decision for the long term and for scalability because other services using Windows PCs literally have a fixed capacity of users. With stadia, the whole data center is the console and it distributes power dynamically between games making it way more flexible to run. Why do you think Stadia users have never had queues to play even with massive launches like cyberpunk? Stadia got over 100 games in its first year like literally every other major console. The numbers are all in the same ball park. So stadia having no games isn't really an argument. All new consoles have always had just one or two great games in their launch but after that there's always articles about there not being enough games for the platform. That's just the reality of new platforms. Established or not.
Really good points here. I don’t hate that Google went with Linux, but the result of that is it’s tougher to get devs on board. I’m sure they had their reasons, but that’s their decision and they have to live with the good and bad. Luna went with windows so we’ll see if they have an easier thing getting a huge catalog. Catalog is the biggest issue IMO. When a new game is announced, it’s more times than not that it doesn’t come on stadia. I’ll admit stadia has a good variety now though and some good titles and I should have given them more credit for that. I’ll be honest I was probably too harsh because they did hit their goal and have plans for a lot more games. I’m considering making a new video about why people are excited about stadia because more people than I realized really like stadia and that’s great. The cyberpunk deal was a great move on stadias part and I should have mentioned it. I’m still not wild about the requirement for using a chrome cast and their controller to play on tv. The whole point of cloud gaming is you should be able to use whatever hardware you want. They need more ways to play on tv IMO. I know they’ll fix it, but not sure why it’s been over a year and it’s still this way. Thanks for sending this - great points. I hope you know I’m not a stadia hater. I made a video about how excited I was about stadia a year ago and talked about the potential. I’m not see into it just yet, but I hope I’m wrong.
It seems like you made this year end review video before Cyberpunk 2077 came out because what you asked for is what they did. For a limited time, if you purchased Cyberpunk 2077.. you received a Stadia Premiere. It provided the exact turbo boost to the platform that you seemed to want Google to do. I was a little lost when you were asking for that in the video when they did exactly that.
That's a great point. Yeah tbh I wrote this video b4 that. I actually didn't realize how good of a deal that was until reading your comment and researching that. Thanks for bringing it up. Apologies for missing that detail. It's not exactly giving a game away but this does seem like a great move for stadia.
It’s not going to the graveyard, it hasn’t been out that long they literally have a 10 plus year plan. Anytime a new console comes out they don’t have hundreds of game just a handful at the start and it takes time to build a catalog.. they also got deals with gaming companies on top of building their own studio. I really don’t understand what people expect?
I bought Cyberpunk and tried Stadia running through my PC while waiting for the kit to arrive. It was ok. The kit arrived a week ago AND I LOVE IT. I am running it with a Fios 940 mpbs Ethernet direct connection and it is amazing. I am really regretting all my Steam and Playstation purchases because this will be my main platform from now on. I loathe Google and view them as a force of evil so this kills me to do. But i highly recommend Stadia as well
@@chasenthehype you have to forgive me i am moderately to minimally tech savvy. How do you download plug-ins to the ChromeUltra that came with the Stadia? Thanks ahead of it
Your fact about Luna not requiring a base subscription to use Ubi+ is wrong. Luna requires their base sub and Ubi+, and they have not announced pricing for a 4k option yet. You also mentioned free games and accounts, but you didn’t mention that Stadia now has 100% free to play games, account creation doesn’t require payment info, and all games have full instant refund if less than 2 hours playtime.
Are you sure about luna requiring both subscriptions? From what I read it didn't seem like it would. And on 4k it says on luna's site 4k is coming soon and does not mention pricing differences so I was making an educated guess there. Those are good points about stadia. If I make a follow-up video, I'll be sure to add those.
@@TheSearchForAwesome That's the problem. All you are doing is making guesses and stating them as facts. Amazon Luna currently is an invite-only beta which requires a minimum of subscribing to the $6/mo Luna channel. You cannot access the Ubi+ channel without also paying for their base channel at this point in time. So, for now, Luna requires both subscriptions. While 4k is coming, they also state that $6/mo for the base channel is a temporary beta price. There is no way to know if they'll charge more for 4k or not.
Right in the Amazon Luna page FAQs: Do I need a Luna+ subscription to sign up to the Ubisoft+ channel beta on Luna? No, you can subscribe to either the Luna+ channel or the Ubisoft+ channel. You can also choose to subscribe to both channels. There ya go, I guess my educated guess was right. Maybe 4K might be more, but I haven’t seen evidence of that and it includes it as “coming soon” underneath the price. I’d say that’s all but confirmed just looking at the listing.
@@TheSearchForAwesome I appreciate your diligence, looks like I was wrong! I was under the impression that if you got an invite to Luna, and made an account, that you had to subscribe to the base Luna+ channel for at least a month. Is that not the case? I haven't received an opt-in yet. I suppose someone could just apply for the beta, then never sign up / pay for Luna+ and ONLY use the Ubisoft+ channel? I guess a beta isn't a great way to tell, even if you had to buy 1 month of Luna+ before canceling just to "have" the account...
@@iChupacabraTube no worries! When I heard about Luna, they kept pushing the point that you subscribe to the channels you want to play which is why is why I said that in the video. I was a bit concerned when you said otherwise lol. I'm not exactly sure how it works. I got the invite for Luna but didn't realize it and it expired DOH! They do expire btw so act quick if you get one. I reapplied. I wish I could tell you how it works exactly - not sure just yet.
You don't need Pro to have Ubisoft Connect. Good video but I wouldn't say it's fair to compare a new platform to a decade old platform that has way more shovel ware than actual games on its catalog.
I believe you need pro for 4K. I didn’t mean you need it for Ubisoft connect. I hear you on it’s not fair to compare stadia to a 10 year old platform, but the issue is consumers are. If a company waits 10 years to enter to the market, thats not the consumers problem. It’s up to Google to make stadia compelling but having exciting features we haven’t seen before, good pricing, and/or having a good library. I harped on library because that’s what had been the biggest disappointment to me. Maybe I harped too much though.
A 3 things I need to address. 1. I had a few people mention that upisoft connect didn't require stadia pro which is correct and not what I meant. I meant for 4k you need stadia pro with ubisoft connect which Luna as far as I can tell includes 4k for free (when 4k is available at a later date). I thought that was clear, but my apologies for not being more clear. 2. Someone pointed out buying cyberpunk included stadia premiere for free (which includes a controller and a chromecast ultra) for a limited time. This was a complete oversight on my part and I have to admit is something that "shakes things up". This is a great deal and I should have noticed that when researching this video. However, I do not think this fixes all of Stadia's issues, but is a step in the right direction. 3. This may have not come across in the video, but I truly hope Stadia becomes a big player in the video industry. It's just my impression after a year is they probably won't become that. I truly hope I'm wrong and Google proves me wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. I hope everyone had an amazing Christmas or whatever holiday you celebrate. Best wishes and have a happy new year!
@@gliese21x46 No, I have a Wii U with all the good games ported to the Switch. When I buy at GOG, it's mine, when I buy Nintendo, it's mine. Hell, I have all the good games/consoles since the NES and I can play with them even if they're 30 years old.
I actually used to be a console diehard, but now I’ve got Stadia instead of the next gen consoles... the technology is amazing, the latency is non existent and the visuals are so crisp with a good connection. The main thing people had against Stadia originally is that there weren’t many games, but now there are. Game streaming is the future.
Awesome to hear you disagree with me. They definitely have more games than they used to so that’s good. I’m still a bit underwhelmed by the library because the vast majority of games aren’t on it, but it’s cool to know that some of you are happy with it. They do have some good titles now, that’s for sure. Thanks for your input :)
@@TheSearchForAwesome no probs, and I respect your opinion. The truth is that there’s not as much as there is on PS5 and Series X yet, but that’s only because they have backwards compatibility... I think of it more like how the PS4 was after one year of being on the market. It was starting to get some good games, but still nowhere near the PS3. Fast forward it a year or even two from now, and I think Stadia will be like PS4 was mid cycle. The only difference is that when the 6 year mark comes around, there won’t be a Stadia 2 or anything because the library can just continue to grow and is hardware agnostic. The graphics will continue to get better without anything happening on the gamer’s/client’s side. That’s the beauty of cloud gaming and what really excites me about it
When people complain about the game catalog on Stadia, I think the problem here is that we are still thinking of Stadia as some kind of console. The consoles time is about to die, guys. Do you all have only 1 streaming service? let it be netflix, amazon, hbo? Are all of your fav series on a single service? the same goes for stadia, especially now there are other cloud competitors. This is the market of the xxi century. Let's not judge by the rules of the past, because it doesn't work any more.
Great video. I especially like your CZcams integration idea. I think that’s a brilliant idea and would be a game changer if Google could implement such a feature. My first cloud gaming experience was GeForce Now and the performance was poor and to be honest Google Stadia is the first cloud gaming service that just worked for me and I thought cloud gaming wouldn’t have been a option with my internet until years from now. I tried the service when Stadia released the iOS update and haven’t looked back. Already picked up the premiere edition of the controller with a few games to play.
The feature is already in with CZcams streaming. In the Stadia app/browser website - sidebar --> Start Streaming. It's really that easy and super impressive.
Thanks for the feedback. The tech is great, not here to dispute that. Glad you’re having a good time with it! As for the stadia button to play a game immediately under a CZcams video, that doesn’t exist as far as I can tell. To confirm, I went to a video of someone streaming stadia and there are additional buttons, but they are CZcams gaming, not for Stadia
Great video - but there are some inaccuracies. 1. Stadia can run all games in 4kx60fps but that depends on whether the devs turn this option on - it is the devs that control this feature, not Stadia. Luna, GeForce now, and X cloud do not offer 4k for any game at the moment. 2. The Stadia subs. model is better than the "Netflix-style" you're speaking of. With Netflix (as we see in Gforce now) you pay for the subscription but those games can always leave the platform even if you're paying. W/ Stadia, you claim it - you own it for as long as you're subscribed. If you've been w/ then since launch, you have about 30+ games that are just yours to play - (There are games I've claimed I haven't even played yet.) 3. Stadia isn't a PC, so unlike Luna (which runs on windows), ports of games have to be done specifically for Stadia, whereas Luna, you can just use the PC version. This means its more difficult to port games over. But this is necessary to ensure that things such as "Stream connect", "crowd play," and "youtube live streaming" all work properly. Each of these features are active on Stadia right now (as long as the devs turn the option on). Aren't these the things that can only be done w/ Cloud Gaming that your were taking about? Stadia is the only place that you can do 40 car races - but again - this is because the devs turned that option on. 4. Competition wise, GeForce now has games that come and go, along with a time limit for players and waiting que's that can be hours long for games like Cyberpunk. Luna is in beta but you don't own your games, so they can leave at any time nor do they offer 4k at the moment meaning that the Ubisoft + channel is in 1080. 5. Take a second look at the "Google Graveyard" again. Most of these were not paid services. When Google does close paid services, they are usually converted to another paid service and people are ported over for free (such as the move from Google play to CZcams music or Google hangouts moving to Chats,).
Hey thanks and I think you make some great points. I don't necessarily disagree with any of them, but I'll respond to each since you took time to send them :) 1. This one is tough for me. I do and don't blame Stadia for this. For instance Dragonball Z running at 1080p 30 is really bad, but whose fault is that? Stadia should be powerful enough to run it a higher framerate/resolution I'd think, so then it's easy to blame devs. But then, why didn't devs design it to run better? Maybe because Stadia runs on Linux and it was tough to port and they settled for 1080p/30? It's not the dev's fault Stadia is based on a OS that is tough to port to, is it? I'm theorizing here, but I see it both ways. Google made a choice and they have to live with that. BTW, I don't think it was necessarily a mistake to make Stadia Linux based, but It will be interesting to see if games are easier to port to Luna since it's windows based. 2. TBH I don't necessarily like the Netflix model more, I was just mentioning it as a way to shake things up. It's an option. I don't know if I would like my games to go the Netflix model. I think it comes down to which can provide the most quality gaming per dollar. I don't hate Stadia's current model - they give away a lot of games with pro which is almost like the netflix model and they sell games so it's sorta like the steam model too. It's not a bad hybrid as it is. My biggest complaint is they don't have more quality games - if they fix that I think they can make it. 130 or so is nice, but I think every major 3rd party should be on Stadia and they should have good exclusives(which will take time and that's fine) if they really want to be an alternative to consoles. 3. Agreed, Google made a choice and I'm sure they had good reasons. But consumers don't care that it's hard to port games, they just care that the games they want to play aren't there. Stadia has some really cool ideas like you mentioned that I hope pan out, but even things like State share, as best as I can tell, only one game supports it. If devs don't use the cool features, it doesn't matter how cool they are. I hope they will though - because that's a huge strength of Cloud gaming. 4. You make good points here. Of the mix, I'd Stadia or Geforce Now is in the lead. Geforce Now supports a lot more games and Stadia has better tech IMO. Luna is interesting if they can get a compelling catalog. Xbox game pass is awesome, but I don't think it will ever compete with the visual quality of Stadia just because it will hurt console sales. If I can get Xbox Series X visuals for free, why pay $500 for a console? For that reason I don't really see it as a Stadia competitor in the long run since their focus is phones- at least for now. 5. Very good point here. You're right it's not usual that Google kills off paid for products. I'm not too worried about Stadia's death TBH, because even if they killed off Stadia or sold off the tech, they would make it up the people that invested in Stadia somehow (game codes, gift cards, a free phone, I dunno lol). Google stuck with CZcams hemorrhaging money for a long time, and maybe they plan to for Stadia as well. I guess my fear is they don't get enough 3rd party support to be a real console replacement, but we'll see. They have a chicken and egg problem. They need more games made for stadia, but the devs want to make sure it's worth the investment so they need more users. But the users want more game support and round and round we go. I hope I'm wrong and devs get on board though. Thanks again for sharing your insight :)
There was also an accidental study where this one guy forgot to renew the ad subscript ions for his local Dillard's or Kohl's or see or something along those lines and the amount of customers did not change proving that they did nothing to increase sales and only is costly to their bottom line. no these were newspaper ads and things like that old school advertising.
I don’t understand the complaint about lack of games. There throwing 4-6 games at you for free every month. Up until recently any new console launch you never got the back catalogue of games accessible. Most new releases are being included on stadia. The ones that are not are usually because the company that owns them is fairly known to be anti consumer anyway and dragging their feet or the game is just to old to bother with that it would make sense to port.
You do not need Stadia Pro to have Ubisoft subscription you can have the Ubisoft subscription with out Stadia Pro. This is the same for Luna. The only difference is Stadia is free or you have the option to pay for Pro to receive Pro games Google gives you but Luna you cannot buy any games just the subscription. Stadia is the best cloud gaming platform nothing comes close.
I think there is a misunderstanding here. You don’t need stadia pro for Ubisoft +, agreed there. You do need it for 4K and as best as I can tell Luna (once 4K is available) will not charge extra.
@@TheSearchForAwesome That's not what was referring to plainly you said you need Stadia Pro to have Ubisoft + no one was speaking of 4k. Question is do you need Stadia Pro to gain access to Ubisoft + and the answer is no two separate subscriptions. Now when you say no extra charge not sure what you mean there? As of now Stadia Pro is 4 k with free Pro games every month for 10 bucks a month and Luna is not free either regardless when 4 k is available you still have to pay for the Luna subscription either it's going to be the 5.99 or they will change pricing to whatever price they desire when 4 k is ready. All Ubisoft + are 1080 60 fps and some games are 4 60 fps regardless if you have Pro or not since it's two different subscriptions. Hope this make sense.
I went back to my video to be sure starting at 5:48. I said you can play ubisoft plus for $15/month. After I said at 6:07 "if you want 4k" and then went on to talk about how you need pro and hows that's different than Luna because on their site there is no mention of extra charge for 4k As for Luna, you don't need the luna subscription to get ubisoft +. You can have either or both subscriptions, just like with stadia. It's in the FAQs on the luna page if you're curious Hope that helps
@@TheSearchForAwesome okay sir your right just fyi Google never said that all games run in 4k. Stadia library is much better than Luna not sure what you mean no games. Keep in mind some games within Luna will be removed but never on Stadia library. Speaking of games where is Cyberpunk, Destiny 2 Red dead, borderlands 3, both platforms have Indies but seriously Stadia has better games. Lastly stop being like the rest this Google with this grave yard stuff its none sense if you pay attention Google already said they have 400 games coming in 2021 alone and their plans are in 2023 and beyond have a good day.
Tbh in retrospect I think I was a little hard on stadia not having enough good games. Their collection is definitely better than what it was. I think where it makes me skeptical is that the majority of games don’t come out on stadia. That’s because they went with Linux instead of windows. I don’t necessarily think that was a bad choice, but it’s one that makes it where most devs have a harder time porting their games. I don’t have ill will towards stadia, I don’t see them as a major player yet. I hope I’m wrong though because I’d love to use Stadia exclusively and forget about upgrading my console or pc. Have a good day too :)
@@TheSearchForAwesome I thank you...it was a great Christmas gift and for my friends that doesn't play videogames. Their kids love it and it's something to do when they're bored. Too bad not enough shooting games like call of duty and still no madden and FIFA. But I think 2021 is going to get better. Imagine if games start to have cross play then I think Stadia will be perfect for the people who don't want to spend $400+
It's sad that Google does not offer Stadia controller here in Poland. Funny thing is that it seems to be causing more lag than mouse and keyboard (as shown in Digital Foundry's tests).. Visual quality was supposed to be at next-gen (ie. PS5 and Xbox Series X) level - 10.7 TFlops GPU computing power advertised a year ago.. In reality - games usually look like their Xbox One X counterparts. There are also very strong macroblocking and banding artifacts in certain games (usually in dark scenes). Stadia needs more exclusives. There are simply not too many great exclusive games like on other consoles (games like Uncharted, Gears of War, Forza Horizon, The Last of Us, Zelda, etc.). In case of multiplatform games, the big issue with Stadia for me is that developers need to prepare dedicated version of the game for Stadia and then keep preparing updates for this version. They may have not too much interest in this, since Stadia is not as popular as other gaming platforms (and they already have to prepare versions for pc, ps4, ps4 pro, ps5, xbox, xbox series x, sometimes Nintendo Switch...) You can read on Stadia community forums that there are already issues with for example roster updates in NBA game or updating Cyberpunk to latest version (on Stadia it's still 1.05, 1.06 was released before Christmas). And then there is Microsoft with its xCloud platform coming to PC (April 2021?) and great games availalble in Xbox Game Pass subscription.
@@TheSearchForAwesome The speed itself is just one part. What about your latency? Or the other devices network usage? Even your router/network devices could be a limiting part with too many open connections which could affect your connection.
Maybe I missed it, but when you were talking about the fact that you need to buy games and compared it to the other platforms, you should always mention that if Stadia is discontinued you lose all your games. That's not a thing with the other marketplaces.
That's technically true, but I have huge doubts Google wouldn't do something if that happens - give out game codes, refunds of some sort, etc. It would be really bad pub otherwise
I said this in another response - as I use to feel the same about Stadia. Realistically though, think about your current Steam library (or other platform for that matter). Any platform with digital downloads could pull the plug on their service and you'd lose everything as well. In addition - most AAA games today require access to a server (always online) - so technically you would lose that game if the dev/publisher decided to pull the plug.
@@chasenthehype That's incorrect. You would lose the ability to download it again, but as long as it doesn't have online DRM (most don't) you would keep the game. It's not the same with Stadia.
I think you are forgetting google doesnt have much control over what developers port games over. We can ask google to throw money at devs but what happens if they only give sub par ports like Finial Fantasy??? Plus lets not forget Stadia is only -one-year-old. Like bruh...
I think this video should have stayed in the oven longer. No mention of CP2077. And therefore no mention of how it runs better than 190 million consoles out there. Many publications are recommending Stadia to run it if you don't have a high-end PC. And it's literally only slightly more than a year old. Just not feasible for every publisher to be porting their games to Stadia yet. 2021 will see more day and date drops to Stadia for big publisher games.
I did write this video before the cyberpunk launch so you got me there. It took a bit to film and edit. That was a big win for Stadia and thanks for bringing it up. Having more games not being feasible is debatable. On one end they used linux so porting is required whereas luna and others used windows which should be much easier for porting. That was Google's choice and it might be one that ends up being great because they have complete control or it might be their downfall if they can't get enough devs/games to make it compelling. We'll see. I hope I'm wrong.
I've been using it since start, the "have they fixed it?" Is a bit of a stretch as it was always working great just lacking games. If there wasn't for Cyberpunk to show people it runs so well on stadia I'm sure CZcamsrs would still follow the trend of bashing it, but because there is a bit of a new trend for some to actually try and realise is good I'm happy Stadia gets some love sometime.
Ive had Stadia for a couple weeks. Im never going back to playstation or xbox. One thing i miss is a console for is to watch dvds on... other than that... Bye bye expensive dvd players lol ill buy a cheap dvd player meant for dvds instead.
dude don't forget that it's available in few countires, it's still only one year old, so maybe it needs one more year to get to the ground: more games, available in varitey of googletv\androidtv, more countires and more games... and integration with youtube ?
got the Ciberpunk 2077 bundle with the chromecast and the controler... but: -wrong address on the delivery package. Door number missing. -3 weeks waiting for a resolution. -4 chats, 2 phone calls, 7 hours wasted talking to you people to sort this out. Nothing happened. -Will reactivate original code to redeem again. Never happened. -Will send me a new one. Never happened -gave me a new one... invalid on my region. -will write me an email with a solution. Still waiting. -they will call me back with an answer... still waiting. -last agent told me he will call me today to give me a full refund.....still waiting. -Today, the agent refuse to give me an address to submit a complain against customer care. Gave me a link to report an Ad instead, and told me that someone might call me soon... still waiting.
The buying it twice argument is that if your internet goes bad you don’t have a console anymore. What’s annoying is you can’t play it on a physical console either, which would obviously be ideal that you had a download function on a console or pc. What if stadia disappears? What happens to your game basically? Because no one fully trusts it yet, you’re not going to buy your catalogue of games at full price if stadia doesn’t work out, it’s a really hard sell. I fully believe cloud gaming is the future though, just needs the right approach, and if nvidia GeForce now can work, it’s the perfect compromise
Most digital downloads (and even physical games) require an always-online check-in these days...so this is the future we live it. I agree with you though - cloud gaming is the future. Nvidia is slacking (and losing game support) with GFN, and Stadia seems to be just catching their stride with it being the best CP2077 experience outside of a high-tier PC (which is a struggle upgrading right now to better GPU's being out of stock)
@@chasenthehype yeah definitely, but the difference being you can have the slowest Internet in the world and just check in once in a while, whereas stadia you need solid Internet for the duration of the game. I still find it hard to get into stadia though because I have no access to a decade of buying games on steam, so I would need stadia and a gaming pc. I've preordered shadow which is literally a Windows 10 desktop and is apparently very stable but more expensive. But unless stadia can get more games it's more of a console option as opposed to people already in pc gaming maybe? Geforce now will eventually get support but they may need to change the model slightly so people can buy games through it. It's because companies can make a lot of money by keeping you in there own service, whereas geforce shows competition. Streaming is so close already in quality and Internet is only getting faster, so it's definitely going to be mainstream soon
@@jambononi Oh totally understand that man! I’m nearing 2 decades with my Steam account so jumping into Stadia felt...off. For me though the kicker was the latest updates to a few games I play - specifically Destiny 2 and MS Flight Sim - where the download/updates were so large I had to start reorganizing my library. It’s an annoyance we’ve all experienced. Even a 2TB SSD is barely enough when some single games are coming in around 250GB. Hell, I had MSFX folders with a full TB of updates.
For a minute, I thought CZcams was glitching and meant to put that you posted this 3 months ago not 3 weeks. Didn't you see the CP2077 launch and the recent Forbes article?
I have 150mbps internet and if anyone else in my house uses the internet then Stadia is unplayable. Latency, disconnects, and framerate drops like below 30. I think it has a lot of potential but unless you are hooked up directly to your modem and you are the only one using the internet then Stadia is trash. If you really want to try it then do the 30 minute trial to see how it works. Do not pay first.
It's tough to know why that is. Some people have commented that even with 50 mbps Stadia works great and it flat out didn't for me. Maybe your location and distance from the servers are also playing a factor?
CZcamsrs can literally do what you said at the end minus the discount. Although they can give an extra month free of Stadia Pro. But any youtuber or anyone for that matter have the capability on some games to share a point of the game to try it out and play from a given point. Anyone can now sign up for stadia pro and try it for free for 30 minutes without a credit card for pro games. Also, any game on Stadia can be returned for a refund if you don't play more than 2 hours of it. Next time I advice you to do a little research before posting a video with very misguided information.
In my research I found state share is only supported by one game, so that’s why I didn’t mention it. If it’s supported by more, I’d love to know. I couldn’t find a list anywhere, just mention that crayta had it at launch. Yeah you tubers can share a link which is cool, but what I meant is more of an integration of CZcams with stadia where it’s pushing people with something a little more obvious than a link in the description. Maybe a nice big button or a small pop up after someone has watched the game for a while. Also I don’t believe you can demo any game, just a select few. I just feel being able to demo a game that CZcams knows I’m interested in would be really cool for someone that hasn’t used stadia before. They get to try out stadia and play a game that they want to try. I don’t hate stadia, I’m just a little disappointed after year one, but they did deliver on their promise of the number of game titles so I should have given them more credit for that. I’m hope I’m wrong and stadia has a bright future
Idk man. Im never buying a console again. Stadia is the best lol sure theres an input lag of like 0.000000001 milliseconds but the games are still enjoyable
Stadia does not have any interesting exclusives. XBox, Sony and Nintendo have many great exclusive games and it's the games that matter to me. Input lag is usually about 50-100ms (with proper internet connection) higher than on consoles. Please stop spreading false information. That's still very impressive and Stadia is doing a good job in reducing the lag as much as possible. But they cannot defy the laws of physics.
lol the compairison with amazon luna was a bit wonky to me, youre giving luna the edge on the 4k streaming side of things even though its not supported yet? kinda weird
that's another major issue that just exist with all products if you go to a website and shop there they'll provide you ads on other sites for that site that you just bought from even though the internet knows that you just shop there so you're likely to shop there again
i missed so much topics we should talk about it: Cloud Innovation? Crowd Play, Crowd Choice, State Share? CZcams Integration for streamers without OBS. Some point this CZcamsr don't understand: Stadia isn't just another Windows 10 Thin Client like for example Lune is... it's a Cloud Platform (Linux). Every single game has to be ported/ optimized for thins plattform so ist brilliant that so much games are already here to play. One more thing... did "The Search for Awesome" here about the gaming road map? 400 Games are planed or in development in 2021 (200 Publisher/ Developer)... so great news! And last one... Stadia could be a new great platform for small gaming studios without expensive infrastructure... so Orcs must Die 3 has never bin released without Stadia.. keep this in mind. i think Stadia had a great year... and we gamer too. Stay tuned...
Hey thanks for sharing! The innovative cloud features are exciting but a sore spot for me too. From the research I did only one game supports state share and the other features you said, I don’t believe the majority of games support it. I do believe you can stream any game on CZcams though and that’s cool. I do understand that stadia runs on Linux and that was their choice - for good or bad they have to live with that. I’m sure they didn’t want to play Microsoft for windows support and wanted more control both are good things. But the side effect is devs have a harder time porting a game. And if they did it so they could introduce innovative features, that’s really cool. But again a lot of devs are just porting their game and not adding those features which is a bummer. I don’t hate stadia, in my first video about stadia a year ago I was really excited about it. I’m just a bit disappointed after a year and I don’t see a bright future. I hope I’m wrong though. Also I should have given them more credit for hitting their goal of the amount of games they were targeting this year.
@@TheSearchForAwesome thank you for your feedback. That's great! I understand your point and i think Stadia will be strong regarding the giant amount of 400 Games next year and we will see that Stadia will go the Netflix way in direction of their own game studios and productions.You know: If netflix has only content from third party they didn't had the big success they have now... same story with Stadia. So i think we will see that more and more games will produced from the Google Studios as cloud native games with exciting new features (you will get only in a cloud). We have to be patient.. this takes time... remember the netflix story 10 years ago. We make a mistake to judge new concepts from a perspective today. Think about the Iphone... in the very first begining... and the comments from Microsoft.
Surprised you don’t mention Cyberpunk 2077 an the free Stadia Premier which is kinda the inverse of what you suggested (buy stadia and get a free game) and in my experience has brought a HUGE amount of people to Stadia. Also, multiple times you mentioned Stadia is a new console and needs to be thought of that way. And yet you say “Why don’t they have every game?” You provided your own answer. Luna and GeForce Now are just running glorified Windows servers, with all the pros and cons of that. It means they don’t even need to get devs to make their games for the service, but you lose many of the benefits of Stadia (including launching Asassin’s Creed: Valhalla in like 15 seconds while it takes 1 minute 30 seconds on GeForce Now). Every dev that Stadia courts needs to completely convert their game to Stadia. Switch ran into the same issue when it first launched.
The 130+ games it has isn't that different from other consoles in their first year. And, 400 more games on the way in the next year or two. Been having a blast with it.
Have had for 3 months, biggest & best saving I have ever made for wanting to play games & the games looks great! I use my laptop hooked up to my TV and no issue. Only issue I get is Wifi freezes as I do not have luxury of an ethernet port on my system, but have had no other issues. Other services like Geforce Now are good to play your games on too, but I find the latency and response times much slower and I get regular freezes more often than Stadia, despite GN being much older. Definitely worth the money, even if you have to buy games again. I bought Farcry 5 again, cause, its Farcry 5! The free games on pro are also a nice feature, specially the Hitman series, have had hours of fun on every game I've got on my account.
@@unlimitedpower5027 I agree, most people don’t and that’s a shame that many providers can’t do a better job no matter the price the customer is paying for their internet.
They've invested half a billion dollars into making games for stadia also they just announced maybe this was after your video recording but they just announced that they're going to be on all Sony TVs and I can't remember the brand names maybe LG or something like that where they're going to be on pretty much a majority or a large portion of smart TVs that are made in 2021.
Whats is to fix? Those who are complaining in latency are those with just hate because they want to justify their investment cost on steam and their rigs and consoles. Trust me using ethernet connection on stadia makes a difference. You just need 50mbps and ethernet with ping
Stadia has integration (crowd play / crowd choice) with CZcams for certain games such as Outcasters, Super Bomberman R Online, and Baldurs gate 3. What AAA games would you like to see on the platform? I feel like Stadia already has a decent variety of them at this point. Enough of a selection for the average gamer. (If Stadia gets COD that'd help a ton) BG3 is came to Stadia before console which is sign of Google's investment. My feeling is that the issue of Stadia adoption isn't a library issue, it's a perception issue. Because for the majority of gamers, the current library and developers/publishers they signed on are enough.
I appreciate your insight! I’d like to see Madden, COD, fortnite, gta - just because they are popular and would get people interested I’d think. Hades was game of the year at a lot of places, it would be cool to get that. Just to name a few. I might have been too hard on them on the library, you’re right it’s a pretty good variety. I hope the day comes where a game announced and it’s just assumed it’s on stadia, ya know? I think that would be huge.
I guess it depends on wifi as well as what you'd want from a gaming platform, but at least In my expirences stadia rivals my consoles, even the series x. I've had minor issues, but even the ps4 and xbox one have given me more crap to deal with. The biggest con tho is not really 'owning' the games, really only an issue if stadia were to shut down, which I don't entirely agree is going to happen. It just feels like a lot of people want to bitch about stadia, purely just to bitch about it. It's def not the best place to get serious with games, but as like an additional place to play without having to deal with game optimization and getting (like in CP2077 case) pretty much the next gen console experience without the console, is fairly neat. Itd be great if it got more support from developers and Google, but who knows?
They need better games for the pro subscription, then it will be worth it, right now youre only getting indie games, which are fun but rarely hold my attention like a bigger game
That is promising to hear and it might help turn things around, but it depends on the quality of the games and if they are getting major titles. Don’t get me wrong, stadia has a few major titles, but nothing like Xbox or PlayStation or Steam for that matter. The tech works great, but if I can’t play all the games i want to play on it, it stops me from committing to it fully. It’s more a side attraction for me
You said "But Stadia cant even run .... At this resolution and this frame rate" It can, it's up to the developers. The Division 2 runs In 4k 60fps. An ubisoft game. But I don't like that game. Farcry 5 is also ubisoft, but it runs at 30fps, and I actually like THAT game more. Someone unfamiliar with how things work would easily get mad at Google here and say "hey Google what the hell? The division 2 runs better than Farcry 5? Why?" But it's not Google fault. Google can EAASSIILLY run any game they have at 4K 60. They're just sitting there waiting like "don't look at us, tell the developers" Also yea the megabyte and megabit thing drives me absolutely insane too. Other than those two things, great video. And the clip of your daughter messing with the controller while saying she's a gamer? Genius lol
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah you’re right, the devs have to optimize I’d imagine and Google can’t control that. The only thing they can control is the tech they use which they went with Linux instead of windows which might be why games aren’t running as well. A lot of games are developed to run on windows and lot aren’t are developed to run on Linux, so the devs probably have more work to do when they port a game. I’m just theorizing though. Luna runs on windows, so we’ll see if games run better as a result. Thanks so much, she is a cutie :)
@@TheSearchForAwesome exactly it's almost like every previously made game has to be made from scratch all over again using Vulcan. But going forward when a developer makes a brand new game across all platforms INCLUDING Stadia, it should theoretically be much easier because they know what to expect now. Its almost like Ubisoft went all in on Stadia and ported over a lot of their games but they picked and chose which ones to spend more time on to make 60fps over 30fps. My theory is now that they ported a lot of games over to Stadia In general, now they can focus full time on Farcry 6, then once after Farcry 6 is released, they can go back and port more older ubisoft games and also work on Farcry 5 again and patch it to 60fps around mid 2021 (I hear Farcry 6 will be released in May and I'll bet you anything it'll be running 60fps). That's my theory.
@@TheSearchForAwesome and as for the windows part yea luna should in theory get games quicker because they can just use the PC version but seeing how easily ubisoft ported over a lot of games from scratch and how rockstar ported over Red Dead like it was nothing, these developers are already getting used to Vulcan. I hear rockstar is porting over GTA 5 as we speak and we're getting the next gen version.
Yeah I hope so. But if a dev doesn't think they will make a lot of money on stadia, we might see half-hearted ports that don't run well or they might not get the game at all. Hopefully devs will see the potential.
@@TheSearchForAwesome exactly. I also hope now with how successful Cyberpunk was on Stadia, many developers will see the advantages and start to go all in. We're only a year in to this new venture we call Stadia. I think it'll be a major competitor in 3-4 years. People are reeeeaaallly annoyed about having to download and install games and running out of space.
Stadia should sell arcade classics with online play and some of the newest ones that you see in Dave and busters , games like daytona usa the newest one out in arcades now stuff like that
Dudes it’s megabits measure of bandwidth is megabits , storage size is measure in megabytes bits and bytes are two totally different unit of measurement. So it needs 50 megabits minimum and you just upgraded to a 1 gigabit internet connection 😉
It definitely is a lost cause. Fuck outta the gaming industry. I don't need a console or a PC to play xcloud either. It runs better (albeit lower resolution) and has the Gamepass library which kicks the living shit out of stadia.... I am on a 3 month deal for a dollar it comes with 300+ high quality games and new games are added every month... Not to mention the sales and free Disney plus I have.... There is no universe in which stadia or Luna compete....
Instead of a membership I'd rather buy the game and then I could log on and just play it But I still need my physical copies of games makes me happy seeing my collection
Looks like you needed to do a bit more research before putting this video up...according to the majority of your comments section, Stadia is far better than you wanted to give it credit for and I agree. It's worth considering over next Gen consoles even especially if you play any of the newly released Ubisoft games heavily or casually. Also your daughter is adorable!
You get a heart for calling my daughter adorable :). And as Im writing this she is trying to get my phone out of my hand lol I was shocked at how many people came out to support stadia. Watching my video back, I still agree with the majority of my arguments. If I were making this video now, I'd only tweak a few things, but sediment would be about the same. Stadia has a ways to go to be a big player in the gaming space. With that said, the fact that Stadia has a passionate community is awesome and it gives me hope that I'm wrong. I want stadia to succeed. I'm considering making a follow-up video where I talk about this more and give some of the great points brought up some light.
My premiere edition came today and damn am I happy with stadia. The tv experience is just mind-blowing, very different than playing on pc with a mouse and keyboard. I am impressed.
Not sure what you mean by that tbh. I know the difference between the two, it just doesn’t change that stadia has no where as many games as the big dogs of gaming. Stadia chose Linux which means porting will be harder, but that was their choice. Look at GeForce now - on their site they list over 800 supported games. I’m not saying that GeForce now is better, but clearly they have a better game selection. I genuinely hope Stadia has a bright future though, I’m just not so sure right now.
@@TheSearchForAwesome It takes 3-5 years for a AAA game to develop for a platform. To expect lots of AAA titles within 12 months of launch is very very optimistic . That's all.
You are rong if your going to make video about something do a fack check with ubisoft plus you don't have to pay the stadia membership you can get stadia free with ubisoft plus
I don't think I ever said it was a better business model, did I? If I did, I didn't mean to. We won't really know what has the better business model until we see their complete catalog and "channels" they offer. It's an interesting approach. We will see which one people prefer in the long run. I certainly find netflix more compelling than buying all of my shows on dvd/blu-ray - not sure if I'll feel the same about games until I try it. Luna says 4k is coming, not sure when though.
Thanks for responding. I don't have luna so I've been referencing their site. What is not true? Also from what I read, you can buy ubisoft + straight from luna without getting luna+ for $6. You subscribe to channels from what I understand.
You seem to forget that the pro subscription you get the features like 4K 60fps but it’s down to the developers to allows this in game and once you sub for a while you end up with a Netflix style game pass subscription. Google was giving away a free stadia controller with cyberpunk purchase or if you had already subscription to CZcams premium, so unless your new to this they been giving away a tone load of stuff plus giving away £10 to a purchase and a handful of good games for less than £10! And to top it off stadia has official announced 200 game developers making makes for stadia and 400 games coming by the end of 2021. They have been so busy there looking at mid 2023 there launch was rocky but they was out the gate with more games than the Xbox one did
I really appreciate your opinion. You’re right, maybe I didn’t give stadia enough credit for what they’ve tried like giving away things to get people on board. It’s cool to see so many people passionate about stadia, I hope I’m wrong and they have a bright future. I’m not seeing yet based on the first year, but we’ll see! Hope you have a good new year.
@@TheSearchForAwesome thats crazy how you cant see they have a bright future, i feel you need to do some digging about. the deals they have done and what they have said alone there really spending hard on stadia and with “gen 2” hardware as some are calling it with upgrades coming to the server. Plus they have pulled out all the stops with there promise like state share working etc etc and what is to come it mind blowing. Honestly do some homework
When researching this video I looked through the stadia blog for real info on features that 100% confirmed. I mostly found a handful of games being announced each month and a few features. 2nd gen hardware is not 100% confirmed as far as I can tell. It's not mentioned in the stadia blog and all I've read on it is rumors. It sounds awesome if they deliver. State share has been mentioned since the beginning of stadia and as far as I can tell one game supports it. Again, it sounds awesome if they deliver. I think that's one of my issues, lots of promises - some of which they delivered on and some they haven't. If you watch my video a year ago on stadia, I was hyped on what might be. This video was looking just at what stadia is in my eyes. I respect your opinion and hope you're right because I get no joy out of seeing it fail. If 6 months from now things are looking better, I'm happy to make a follow-up video admitting I'm wrong. We'll see.
@@TheSearchForAwesome google did say “gen2” isn’t a thing because it applies the hole system will be updated at once and they said it will be update as individual parts though out the year as and when they’re needed or they want to They also said from now on they will under promise and over deliver because the back lash of how the roll out went but they have now delivered on all that they have promised and unfortunately you are correct state share is only available for one game that is comming soon so it’s really down to developers and not google to apply features, so overall at its state without developers implementing features it already looks better than most consoles
Thanks for following up! Where did they say this? I didn’t see it in their blog when I was researching. Just curious. Under promising and overdelivering is probably a pretty good move!
It's pretty awesome from what I've seen. I don't see it as a stadia alternative just because I have doubts xcloud will ever perform as good as a xbox series x because that hurts them moneywise, whereas with Stadia I think that's a possibility because they are trying to get interest and to get gamers on board. Still ultimate is a great deal
Gamepass Ultimate is fantastic (especially on PC) - but it doesn't 'solve' the issue of having to download the games and make room for those. Stadia is instant. Find game, play it anywhere you have internet.
@@chasenthehype No, it does has a cloud service. You do not have to download games. I have been using it on my android phone and even sideloaded it on my nvidia shield TV. it runs fantastically.
@@TheSearchForAwesome idk.. I've been using it and the graphics, gameplay, connection, load times, etc has been phenomenal. I think that the console market is going to be trying to throw their weight around to try to keep google out of the gaming industry.
@@beardsandbraid3189 Oh right I forgot about XCloud (or Xbox Cloud Gaming)! I’m on iOS so don’t have access yet. If they can make the experience nearly as seamless as Stadia, I might have to go for it - specifically if it allows for PC game streaming at 4K from the Xbox app. Not having to upgrade my hardware to play games like MS Flight Sim from my PC would be amazing. Currently it (MSFS) runs decently on my PC - but that would be a huge.
The fact that not every game out there is not available is because of the special architecture for which the games need to be ported for, but it allows better user experience in the short term and better, cloud-native games in the long run. I'm quite excited about it since don't have any other consoles. It's great. Also, you probably mean megabits, not megabytes, when taking about the internet speed. Oh and they gave out a free Premiere Edition (worth $99 to anyone who pre-ordered Cyberpunk)
I’m glad to hear you like it! I don’t hate stadia, my only real issue is the library. I like everything else about it tbh. From reading your comment and others, I probably should have mentioned how much progress they have made. The cyberpunk deal was a great move and I should have mentioned it. Giving away stadia premiere isn’t that exciting to me because I sort of feel the whole point of stadia is you don’t need special hardware to play (which you don’t). But it was a good move none the less. I truly hope stadia had a bright future, I’m not seeing it yet, but I hope I’m wrong.
So I just recently bought stadia, PlayStation broke and I was bored at home so I have a Google pixel 2 XL seen that it was supposed to work for it and looked and there was an assassin's Creed origin for 15 bucks, and I can play it on my phone without a control which was great so 3 days later I went and bought the controller and the Chromecast and then bought Odyssey for $37 with the dlc works great I've only had to drop connection once and I'm pretty sure that was just my Wi-Fi works well on my phone with the controller as well just want some more games to come out on it cuz I don't mind paying for the games on there I mean I bought them everywhere else anyways lol And the one bonus I found with having stadia pro is they give a huge discounts on games lol at least anything made by Ubisoft anyways
@@TheSearchForAwesome I mean it might be a niche products but it's really good for people that don't want to fork out the money for game system works great and hopefully they'll be more games soon lol
People seem to struggle with how this system actually works. Your internet speed does not need to be greater than what it takes to for instance stream a 4k video from youtube, essentially, you are receiving a personal Livestream from google of your game being rendered on their servers.
The biggest issue is latency, their system has to wait for your controller to give a signal of what to do, then has to render that action and then send it to your phone/Chromecast. Each step in that chain has a lag factor, mostly from your house to their servers. That is an issue with your internet provider and google has no power over that. Once we have near to zero latency from fibre providers, stadia will improve immensely.
This take makes no sense... the latency is integral to the experience of this product. If the experience sucks, that reflects bad on the product. You can’t explain that away..
you guys complain so much about resolution.
1080p is good yall
Facts
Stadia is amazing I have no problems with it
Sweet! I’m happy that you’re happy with it. The technology works really well
I love it. PS5 who?
I have the free one. I have Destiny 2. It’s amazing. I played on my 2017 iPhone X. Triple A on an old phone. What is this madness.
Glad you guys love it!
@@adhi02 my pc is crap it cant run fornite on it but somehow I was able to play stadia at 1080p 60 fps super smooth so yes I agree what is this madness 😂👍. After that I got chromecast ultra with stadia controller and it's all i play now.
I just got my stadia premiere edition today and it's the best console I've ever had. I'm 100% in love. Def worth buying.
Glad you love it!
Lmfao are you being sarcastic?
You made some good points and overall agree with you but I think you missed the mark when critizing Stadia's game library. I think it's fair to compare Stadia's first year with PS1, original xbox and Nintendo. If you are comparing first year games number Stadia beat them all but obviously you can't compare chapter one in the first book to chapter 10 on the 5th book in a series.
I see what you’re saying, and agree. The issue I see is consumers are going to compare and make their purchasing choices based on that. They don’t care that it’s their first year, they just want to play all the games they want to play.
Think about Netflix clearly leading the streaming video market. When a new player like Disney plus comes in they have to offer a compelling library on day one or people don’t care at all and pass.
@@TheSearchForAwesome Yes but there is a big difference in reality and expectations with the later always being more than what will ever be delivered. I wish my PS5 had all the biggest Sony exclusives day one and Stadia to have the entire collection of games from generations past. In reality for a first year gaming platform it has done better than any other in the amount of games launched and Stadia doesn't get any credit for it because of expectations.
You make a good point. I think it’s fair to give them credit for making something that works well, but also to criticize for shortcomings like the library being almost all games that have been on other platforms for a while. It’s okay they don’t have a lot of originals, but I feel they need fresh new 3rd party games to drive interest. They did get cyberpunk so that’s good.
I didn’t get into this in the video, but Google chose to use Linux as the OS for Stadia. Linux is great and everything but most games don’t work on Linux so I imagine they have to be reworked to work on Stadia. I’m just theorizing here, but that could be why they don’t have more developers jumping on Stadia. If that’s true, then day one Google may have shot themselves in the foot.
Luna runs on windows which has better game support so we’ll see how much that makes a difference in getting devs on board.
We’ll see, I hope Stadia can turn things around.
@@TheSearchForAwesome those games you have to be stuck in the house with no life to play them with them huge downloads and installs and can't play on any device like on Stadia. Also Stadia started off with 20 something games now has over 100 nothing happens overnight even these new consoles are lacking games to take full potential of them right now
That's true. But can you honestly say a year from now PS5 and Xbox will only have a catalog of 150 or so games (which is about how many Stadia has) when they are a year old? My guess is they have 500 + and if you include backwards compatible games, they already have way more than 100 games on day one.
I get it may not be fair to compare a year old platform to a platform that's over a decade old, but that's who they are competing with, no?
Honestly - I'm a fan of all things gaming - and have always been a PC-First type of guy, but Stadia has reignited a spark for gaming that I haven't felt in years. Been in the PC 'build scene' for the last 15-20 years...and just...burned out. Just tired of the shuffle of new hardware - especially in the SSD/disk space territory (and now the GPU realm). The fact that you can be up and running in a game in seconds flat is astounding - game changing really. You can game pretty much on any device with a WiFi connection...or a stable 4G connection. No downloads, just play.
It changed the way I think about future systems (both PC and consoles) Playing Cyberpunk 2077, Destiny 2 and hell even the excellent Stadia-Exclusive Outcasters has been absolutely brilliant - and incredibly smooth in higher resolutions (4k with 5.1 surround). Also, instantly streaming to CZcams is a pretty sweet extra feature that I can only see them expanding on.
I definitely see other contenders coming in the industry - but I feel Google is just hitting their stride.
Just got a stadia subscription to play cyberpunk and it was great. The visual quality is insane.
Glad you’re liking it! I should have mentioned cyberpunk, that was a good get for Stadia
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@Zack Smith minor visual dips here and there . I get provided 500mb/s but sometimes it goes down to 100 or lower. But way better that I can get on any machine for free. 10 dollars after the month.
@Zack Smith I live in Budapest. And I pay around 25 dollars per month for it .
@Zack Smith that's fine too. The major downside is lack of games. That's all. Have a nice day!
I'm happy that they have 400 games planned for the next 2 years
Yeah... really hope those are not all 5 year old ports and indie games.
@@jameshall36 I'm guessing you were really excited about OUYA too.
@@uraniumcivics7144 Because? I mean it's not like the Ouya runs Cyberpunk, Red Dead Redemption 2, etc...
How you feeling now that Google shut down their internal game development divisions?
@@anonymoususer4937 oof
No deals hell I got borderlands 3 ultimate edition a 120 dollar game for 10.50 so im not sure where you are not seeing deals at they usually have amazing deals 🤔
I briefly mentioned they do offer deals if you have pro, but didn’t elaborate on that. I was echoing what other have said that you have to pay full price which is true sometimes, but not all the time. I was actually impressed with the sales in December, but I didn’t know that when I wrote this video.
facts i got grid and division 2 for 9.00 a piece and a free ccu for buying cyberpunk
@@TheSearchForAwesome They have great frequent sales for people without pro, too!
@@TheSearchForAwesome ah ok I gotcha but yes I really enjoy stadia now more than ever they are stepping it up but do still need a bit more to fully be ahead
I have to say, Stadia is amazing! My kids were on the "hate for no good reason" train until the family plan came out last month. Now they're hogging up all my bandwidth! LOL
Lol nice! Glad they like it!
Lol
I play Stadia on my tv with chromecast ultra just wifi. It actually runs better than my PS4 did using just wifi... I also have 4 other people living with me all using wifi on multiple devices and everyone is usually here constantly using their devices on the wifi and my Stadia runs just fine. I even listen to music on CZcams as i game.
me too works better over wifi than my xbox one x ever did
The business model argument is really confusing to me. So people are upset that you don’t own the game just a license to a game but then turn around and praise the Luna business model where you lose access to games if you don’t pay a subscription. Also with Luna you will need to subscribe to multiple channels to get all the games you want like having multiple streaming video services. Also with stadia you can buy Ubisoft+ which probably won’t be the only publisher to do a service like that.
I prefer the stadia model because I’d rather buy the individual games myself and it’s no different then say buying a digital album on Apple Music or CZcams music or whatever.
True. I definitely agree here. I have no idea what business model makes more sense. I think it comes down to what provides the most quality gaming per dollar. For movies and shows, I definitely prefer the Netflix model over buying dvds and blu rays. Not sure if I will feel that way for gaming.
Than you ! to me too I don't get the logic behind the business model.
I don't perceive stadia as an "Alternative" but as an addition for the big story titles like CP2077 or AC while I use my Switch for the more casual stuff
Interesting take. Tbh I agree with you. It's an addition for me as well.
That's exactly what I use it for. I play primarily on the Switch but when I want to play something newer I'm playing on Stadia.
Not a review, just a dude who likes to hear himself talk with yes, a neon light behind him.
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Wow, your a hater! Stadia is amazing, Cyberpunk 2077 is the proof that it can handle demanding games, the future looks amazing on Stadia! The reason the older games of past years aren't on Stadia is because Stadia is still building a user base, to have studios waste money on porting older games to a not yet large user base does not make business sense, but that time will come, so with that said, slow and steady will win the race!!
@Fionn MacCuill damn, you are completely f***in right, LOL!!
Glad to hear you like stadia. The Tech is awesome and I'm not here to dispute that. I just don't think it's compelling for mainstream yet because it doesn't have nearly as many games as other platforms they are trying to compete with.
I will say what gives me hope that stadia might make it is people like you and several others that are defending it. Im truly surprised at how much support stadia has and I think it's great.
I genuinely hope Stadia turns things around and gets into the same conversation as PS5 and Xbox. After a year of me paying for stadia, I just don't see it happening, but I hope I'm wrong. If I'm a hater for that, then I guess I'm a hater
@@TheSearchForAwesome you need educate people and make them understand that porting old games onto something that is brand new like Stadia with not as big a user base yet is not worth the money or effort it will cost a developer studio to port that game to Stadia.
That's true. It probably doesn't make sense for some devs to make the effort financially so either stadia has to pay them or do a better job in getting more players so the devs want their games on Stadia. It's a chicken and egg problem. They need a nice catalog to get plays to want stadia, buy it's tough to get a nice catalog when they don't have as many players as large platforms. This is one of the reasons I don't know if Stadia will catch on with a ton of players. I have my doubts, but I hope I'm wrong.
@@TheSearchForAwesome I guess that is why Stadia paid 10 million for the new "Resident Evil" games coming. If anybody has the money, Google does!! They also have their own games being developed by their own studios for the next two years, promising over 400 games, so we'll see, I believe they'll be more than fine! People just need to hang on and remember that Xbox and Sony started slow too. Thanks to Cyberpunk people are beginning to believe! Stadia for life!!
Your video was good but there's a few things I want to clarify:
It's got free demos, free to play games, a free trial of its pro tier all without the need for a credit card, and have been giving away free premier edition boxes with cyberpunk and CZcams premium. So how are they not giving away games and hardware like you said you wished they did?
So many developers have expressed how they like working on games for Stadia and the platform has 400 new games coming in the next few years. There wasn't many games on launch because it's not running Windows PCs which is the easy way to start a new gaming service. It's literally a new platform like the switch is to the ps5. Your whole engine needs to support the platform first. And as the platform updates, your game engine needs to support those updates. Also, writing their own platform from scratch is the best decision for the long term and for scalability because other services using Windows PCs literally have a fixed capacity of users. With stadia, the whole data center is the console and it distributes power dynamically between games making it way more flexible to run. Why do you think Stadia users have never had queues to play even with massive launches like cyberpunk?
Stadia got over 100 games in its first year like literally every other major console. The numbers are all in the same ball park. So stadia having no games isn't really an argument. All new consoles have always had just one or two great games in their launch but after that there's always articles about there not being enough games for the platform. That's just the reality of new platforms. Established or not.
Really good points here. I don’t hate that Google went with Linux, but the result of that is it’s tougher to get devs on board. I’m sure they had their reasons, but that’s their decision and they have to live with the good and bad. Luna went with windows so we’ll see if they have an easier thing getting a huge catalog.
Catalog is the biggest issue IMO. When a new game is announced, it’s more times than not that it doesn’t come on stadia. I’ll admit stadia has a good variety now though and some good titles and I should have given them more credit for that.
I’ll be honest I was probably too harsh because they did hit their goal and have plans for a lot more games. I’m considering making a new video about why people are excited about stadia because more people than I realized really like stadia and that’s great.
The cyberpunk deal was a great move on stadias part and I should have mentioned it. I’m still not wild about the requirement for using a chrome cast and their controller to play on tv. The whole point of cloud gaming is you should be able to use whatever hardware you want. They need more ways to play on tv IMO. I know they’ll fix it, but not sure why it’s been over a year and it’s still this way.
Thanks for sending this - great points. I hope you know I’m not a stadia hater. I made a video about how excited I was about stadia a year ago and talked about the potential. I’m not see into it just yet, but I hope I’m wrong.
It seems like you made this year end review video before Cyberpunk 2077 came out because what you asked for is what they did. For a limited time, if you purchased Cyberpunk 2077.. you received a Stadia Premiere. It provided the exact turbo boost to the platform that you seemed to want Google to do. I was a little lost when you were asking for that in the video when they did exactly that.
That's a great point. Yeah tbh I wrote this video b4 that. I actually didn't realize how good of a deal that was until reading your comment and researching that.
Thanks for bringing it up. Apologies for missing that detail. It's not exactly giving a game away but this does seem like a great move for stadia.
@@TheSearchForAwesome don’t forget you can also save $10 on your first game( with stadia pro)
It’s not going to the graveyard, it hasn’t been out that long they literally have a 10 plus year plan. Anytime a new console comes out they don’t have hundreds of game just a handful at the start and it takes time to build a catalog.. they also got deals with gaming companies on top of building their own studio. I really don’t understand what people expect?
I bought Cyberpunk and tried Stadia running through my PC while waiting for the kit to arrive. It was ok. The kit arrived a week ago AND I LOVE IT. I am running it with a Fios 940 mpbs Ethernet direct connection and it is amazing. I am really regretting all my Steam and Playstation purchases because this will be my main platform from now on.
I loathe Google and view them as a force of evil so this kills me to do. But i highly recommend Stadia as well
Glad you like it!
Install the Stadia Enhanced plugin! It will completely change the visual fidelity (h264 --> VP9) if your hardware supports it.
@@chasenthehype you have to forgive me i am moderately to minimally tech savvy. How do you download plug-ins to the ChromeUltra that came with the Stadia? Thanks ahead of it
stadia is the death star
Your fact about Luna not requiring a base subscription to use Ubi+ is wrong. Luna requires their base sub and Ubi+, and they have not announced pricing for a 4k option yet.
You also mentioned free games and accounts, but you didn’t mention that Stadia now has 100% free to play games, account creation doesn’t require payment info, and all games have full instant refund if less than 2 hours playtime.
Are you sure about luna requiring both subscriptions? From what I read it didn't seem like it would. And on 4k it says on luna's site 4k is coming soon and does not mention pricing differences so I was making an educated guess there.
Those are good points about stadia. If I make a follow-up video, I'll be sure to add those.
@@TheSearchForAwesome That's the problem. All you are doing is making guesses and stating them as facts. Amazon Luna currently is an invite-only beta which requires a minimum of subscribing to the $6/mo Luna channel. You cannot access the Ubi+ channel without also paying for their base channel at this point in time. So, for now, Luna requires both subscriptions.
While 4k is coming, they also state that $6/mo for the base channel is a temporary beta price. There is no way to know if they'll charge more for 4k or not.
Right in the Amazon Luna page FAQs:
Do I need a Luna+ subscription to sign up to the Ubisoft+ channel beta on Luna?
No, you can subscribe to either the Luna+ channel or the Ubisoft+ channel. You can also choose to subscribe to both channels.
There ya go, I guess my educated guess was right. Maybe 4K might be more, but I haven’t seen evidence of that and it includes it as “coming soon” underneath the price. I’d say that’s all but confirmed just looking at the listing.
@@TheSearchForAwesome I appreciate your diligence, looks like I was wrong! I was under the impression that if you got an invite to Luna, and made an account, that you had to subscribe to the base Luna+ channel for at least a month. Is that not the case? I haven't received an opt-in yet.
I suppose someone could just apply for the beta, then never sign up / pay for Luna+ and ONLY use the Ubisoft+ channel? I guess a beta isn't a great way to tell, even if you had to buy 1 month of Luna+ before canceling just to "have" the account...
@@iChupacabraTube no worries! When I heard about Luna, they kept pushing the point that you subscribe to the channels you want to play which is why is why I said that in the video. I was a bit concerned when you said otherwise lol.
I'm not exactly sure how it works. I got the invite for Luna but didn't realize it and it expired DOH! They do expire btw so act quick if you get one. I reapplied. I wish I could tell you how it works exactly - not sure just yet.
You don't need Pro to have Ubisoft Connect. Good video but I wouldn't say it's fair to compare a new platform to a decade old platform that has way more shovel ware than actual games on its catalog.
I believe you need pro for 4K. I didn’t mean you need it for Ubisoft connect.
I hear you on it’s not fair to compare stadia to a 10 year old platform, but the issue is consumers are. If a company waits 10 years to enter to the market, thats not the consumers problem. It’s up to Google to make stadia compelling but having exciting features we haven’t seen before, good pricing, and/or having a good library.
I harped on library because that’s what had been the biggest disappointment to me. Maybe I harped too much though.
I got Stadia on the Switch. That shit looks amazing. Thinking of keeping it after the trial
A 3 things I need to address.
1. I had a few people mention that upisoft connect didn't require stadia pro which is correct and not what I meant. I meant for 4k you need stadia pro with ubisoft connect which Luna as far as I can tell includes 4k for free (when 4k is available at a later date). I thought that was clear, but my apologies for not being more clear.
2. Someone pointed out buying cyberpunk included stadia premiere for free (which includes a controller and a chromecast ultra) for a limited time. This was a complete oversight on my part and I have to admit is something that "shakes things up".
This is a great deal and I should have noticed that when researching this video. However, I do not think this fixes all of Stadia's issues, but is a step in the right direction.
3. This may have not come across in the video, but I truly hope Stadia becomes a big player in the video industry. It's just my impression after a year is they probably won't become that. I truly hope I'm wrong and Google proves me wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
I hope everyone had an amazing Christmas or whatever holiday you celebrate. Best wishes and have a happy new year!
Cloud gaming is not 'the future'... It is YOUR future.
I'll never fall for that crap. I want to own something.
@@gliese21x46 No, I have a Wii U with all the good games ported to the Switch. When I buy at GOG, it's mine, when I buy Nintendo, it's mine. Hell, I have all the good games/consoles since the NES and I can play with them even if they're 30 years old.
I actually used to be a console diehard, but now I’ve got Stadia instead of the next gen consoles... the technology is amazing, the latency is non existent and the visuals are so crisp with a good connection. The main thing people had against Stadia originally is that there weren’t many games, but now there are. Game streaming is the future.
Awesome to hear you disagree with me. They definitely have more games than they used to so that’s good. I’m still a bit underwhelmed by the library because the vast majority of games aren’t on it, but it’s cool to know that some of you are happy with it. They do have some good titles now, that’s for sure.
Thanks for your input :)
@@TheSearchForAwesome no probs, and I respect your opinion. The truth is that there’s not as much as there is on PS5 and Series X yet, but that’s only because they have backwards compatibility... I think of it more like how the PS4 was after one year of being on the market. It was starting to get some good games, but still nowhere near the PS3. Fast forward it a year or even two from now, and I think Stadia will be like PS4 was mid cycle. The only difference is that when the 6 year mark comes around, there won’t be a Stadia 2 or anything because the library can just continue to grow and is hardware agnostic. The graphics will continue to get better without anything happening on the gamer’s/client’s side. That’s the beauty of cloud gaming and what really excites me about it
When people complain about the game catalog on Stadia, I think the problem here is that we are still thinking of Stadia as some kind of console. The consoles time is about to die, guys. Do you all have only 1 streaming service? let it be netflix, amazon, hbo? Are all of your fav series on a single service? the same goes for stadia, especially now there are other cloud competitors. This is the market of the xxi century. Let's not judge by the rules of the past, because it doesn't work any more.
Great video. I especially like your CZcams integration idea. I think that’s a brilliant idea and would be a game changer if Google could implement such a feature. My first cloud gaming experience was GeForce Now and the performance was poor and to be honest Google Stadia is the first cloud gaming service that just worked for me and I thought cloud gaming wouldn’t have been a option with my internet until years from now. I tried the service when Stadia released the iOS update and haven’t looked back. Already picked up the premiere edition of the controller with a few games to play.
The feature is already in with CZcams streaming. In the Stadia app/browser website - sidebar --> Start Streaming. It's really that easy and super impressive.
Thanks for the feedback. The tech is great, not here to dispute that. Glad you’re having a good time with it!
As for the stadia button to play a game immediately under a CZcams video, that doesn’t exist as far as I can tell. To confirm, I went to a video of someone streaming stadia and there are additional buttons, but they are CZcams gaming, not for Stadia
Great video - but there are some inaccuracies.
1. Stadia can run all games in 4kx60fps but that depends on whether the devs turn this option on - it is the devs that control this feature, not Stadia. Luna, GeForce now, and X cloud do not offer 4k for any game at the moment.
2. The Stadia subs. model is better than the "Netflix-style" you're speaking of. With Netflix (as we see in Gforce now) you pay for the subscription but those games can always leave the platform even if you're paying. W/ Stadia, you claim it - you own it for as long as you're subscribed. If you've been w/ then since launch, you have about 30+ games that are just yours to play - (There are games I've claimed I haven't even played yet.)
3. Stadia isn't a PC, so unlike Luna (which runs on windows), ports of games have to be done specifically for Stadia, whereas Luna, you can just use the PC version. This means its more difficult to port games over. But this is necessary to ensure that things such as "Stream connect", "crowd play," and "youtube live streaming" all work properly. Each of these features are active on Stadia right now (as long as the devs turn the option on). Aren't these the things that can only be done w/ Cloud Gaming that your were taking about? Stadia is the only place that you can do 40 car races - but again - this is because the devs turned that option on.
4. Competition wise, GeForce now has games that come and go, along with a time limit for players and waiting que's that can be hours long for games like Cyberpunk. Luna is in beta but you don't own your games, so they can leave at any time nor do they offer 4k at the moment meaning that the Ubisoft + channel is in 1080.
5. Take a second look at the "Google Graveyard" again. Most of these were not paid services. When Google does close paid services, they are usually converted to another paid service and people are ported over for free (such as the move from Google play to CZcams music or Google hangouts moving to Chats,).
Hey thanks and I think you make some great points. I don't necessarily disagree with any of them, but I'll respond to each since you took time to send them :)
1. This one is tough for me. I do and don't blame Stadia for this. For instance Dragonball Z running at 1080p 30 is really bad, but whose fault is that? Stadia should be powerful enough to run it a higher framerate/resolution I'd think, so then it's easy to blame devs. But then, why didn't devs design it to run better? Maybe because Stadia runs on Linux and it was tough to port and they settled for 1080p/30? It's not the dev's fault Stadia is based on a OS that is tough to port to, is it?
I'm theorizing here, but I see it both ways. Google made a choice and they have to live with that. BTW, I don't think it was necessarily a mistake to make Stadia Linux based, but It will be interesting to see if games are easier to port to Luna since it's windows based.
2. TBH I don't necessarily like the Netflix model more, I was just mentioning it as a way to shake things up. It's an option. I don't know if I would like my games to go the Netflix model. I think it comes down to which can provide the most quality gaming per dollar. I don't hate Stadia's current model - they give away a lot of games with pro which is almost like the netflix model and they sell games so it's sorta like the steam model too. It's not a bad hybrid as it is. My biggest complaint is they don't have more quality games - if they fix that I think they can make it. 130 or so is nice, but I think every major 3rd party should be on Stadia and they should have good exclusives(which will take time and that's fine) if they really want to be an alternative to consoles.
3. Agreed, Google made a choice and I'm sure they had good reasons. But consumers don't care that it's hard to port games, they just care that the games they want to play aren't there. Stadia has some really cool ideas like you mentioned that I hope pan out, but even things like State share, as best as I can tell, only one game supports it. If devs don't use the cool features, it doesn't matter how cool they are. I hope they will though - because that's a huge strength of Cloud gaming.
4. You make good points here. Of the mix, I'd Stadia or Geforce Now is in the lead. Geforce Now supports a lot more games and Stadia has better tech IMO. Luna is interesting if they can get a compelling catalog. Xbox game pass is awesome, but I don't think it will ever compete with the visual quality of Stadia just because it will hurt console sales. If I can get Xbox Series X visuals for free, why pay $500 for a console? For that reason I don't really see it as a Stadia competitor in the long run since their focus is phones- at least for now.
5. Very good point here. You're right it's not usual that Google kills off paid for products. I'm not too worried about Stadia's death TBH, because even if they killed off Stadia or sold off the tech, they would make it up the people that invested in Stadia somehow (game codes, gift cards, a free phone, I dunno lol). Google stuck with CZcams hemorrhaging money for a long time, and maybe they plan to for Stadia as well. I guess my fear is they don't get enough 3rd party support to be a real console replacement, but we'll see. They have a chicken and egg problem. They need more games made for stadia, but the devs want to make sure it's worth the investment so they need more users. But the users want more game support and round and round we go. I hope I'm wrong and devs get on board though.
Thanks again for sharing your insight :)
There was also an accidental study where this one guy forgot to renew the ad subscript ions for his local Dillard's or Kohl's or see or something along those lines and the amount of customers did not change proving that they did nothing to increase sales and only is costly to their bottom line. no these were newspaper ads and things like that old school advertising.
I don’t understand the complaint about lack of games. There throwing 4-6 games at you for free every month. Up until recently any new console launch you never got the back catalogue of games accessible. Most new releases are being included on stadia. The ones that are not are usually because the company that owns them is fairly known to be anti consumer anyway and dragging their feet or the game is just to old to bother with that it would make sense to port.
I have 20 up and 50 down and i have flawless execution w/ stadia. Not lag. No latency. Extremely impressed by stadia. I dont know how they do it.
You do not need Stadia Pro to have Ubisoft subscription you can have the Ubisoft subscription with out Stadia Pro. This is the same for Luna. The only difference is Stadia is free or you have the option to pay for Pro to receive Pro games Google gives you but Luna you cannot buy any games just the subscription. Stadia is the best cloud gaming platform nothing comes close.
I think there is a misunderstanding here. You don’t need stadia pro for Ubisoft +, agreed there. You do need it for 4K and as best as I can tell Luna (once 4K is available) will not charge extra.
@@TheSearchForAwesome That's not what was referring to plainly you said you need Stadia Pro to have Ubisoft + no one was speaking of 4k. Question is do you need Stadia Pro to gain access to Ubisoft + and the answer is no two separate subscriptions. Now when you say no extra charge not sure what you mean there? As of now Stadia Pro is 4 k with free Pro games every month for 10 bucks a month and Luna is not free either regardless when 4 k is available you still have to pay for the Luna subscription either it's going to be the 5.99 or they will change pricing to whatever price they desire when 4 k is ready. All Ubisoft + are 1080 60 fps and some games are 4 60 fps regardless if you have Pro or not since it's two different subscriptions. Hope this make sense.
I went back to my video to be sure starting at 5:48. I said you can play ubisoft plus for $15/month. After I said at 6:07 "if you want 4k" and then went on to talk about how you need pro and hows that's different than Luna because on their site there is no mention of extra charge for 4k
As for Luna, you don't need the luna subscription to get ubisoft +. You can have either or both subscriptions, just like with stadia. It's in the FAQs on the luna page if you're curious
Hope that helps
@@TheSearchForAwesome okay sir your right just fyi Google never said that all games run in 4k. Stadia library is much better than Luna not sure what you mean no games. Keep in mind some games within Luna will be removed but never on Stadia library. Speaking of games where is Cyberpunk, Destiny 2 Red dead, borderlands 3, both platforms have Indies but seriously Stadia has better games. Lastly stop being like the rest this Google with this grave yard stuff its none sense if you pay attention Google already said they have 400 games coming in 2021 alone and their plans are in 2023 and beyond have a good day.
Tbh in retrospect I think I was a little hard on stadia not having enough good games. Their collection is definitely better than what it was. I think where it makes me skeptical is that the majority of games don’t come out on stadia. That’s because they went with Linux instead of windows. I don’t necessarily think that was a bad choice, but it’s one that makes it where most devs have a harder time porting their games. I don’t have ill will towards stadia, I don’t see them as a major player yet. I hope I’m wrong though because I’d love to use Stadia exclusively and forget about upgrading my console or pc. Have a good day too :)
I think I got Stadia after watching your video back in 2019!
How have you liked it?
@@TheSearchForAwesome I thank you...it was a great Christmas gift and for my friends that doesn't play videogames. Their kids love it and it's something to do when they're bored. Too bad not enough shooting games like call of duty and still no madden and FIFA. But I think 2021 is going to get better. Imagine if games start to have cross play then I think Stadia will be perfect for the people who don't want to spend $400+
Yeah I hope so. If they can get more games, I think Stadia will be a great option.
0:50 Fun Fact: You can use Stadia outside of the country with a VPN (that doesn’t mean it’s gonna be good tho)
Or you could buy a ps4
@@christopher1474 nah
@@christopher1474 stadia is better
It's sad that Google does not offer Stadia controller here in Poland. Funny thing is that it seems to be causing more lag than mouse and keyboard (as shown in Digital Foundry's tests)..
Visual quality was supposed to be at next-gen (ie. PS5 and Xbox Series X) level - 10.7 TFlops GPU computing power advertised a year ago..
In reality - games usually look like their Xbox One X counterparts.
There are also very strong macroblocking and banding artifacts in certain games (usually in dark scenes).
Stadia needs more exclusives. There are simply not too many great exclusive games like on other consoles (games like Uncharted, Gears of War, Forza Horizon, The Last of Us, Zelda, etc.).
In case of multiplatform games, the big issue with Stadia for me is that developers need to prepare dedicated version of the game for Stadia and then keep preparing updates for this version.
They may have not too much interest in this, since Stadia is not as popular as other gaming platforms (and they already have to prepare versions for pc, ps4, ps4 pro, ps5, xbox, xbox series x, sometimes Nintendo Switch...)
You can read on Stadia community forums that there are already issues with for example roster updates in NBA game or updating Cyberpunk to latest version (on Stadia it's still 1.05, 1.06 was released before Christmas).
And then there is Microsoft with its xCloud platform coming to PC (April 2021?) and great games availalble in Xbox Game Pass subscription.
I have 50 down 18 up and I have no issues at all
Good to know! Not sure why 50 up and down had problems for me.
@@TheSearchForAwesome The speed itself is just one part. What about your latency? Or the other devices network usage?
Even your router/network devices could be a limiting part with too many open connections which could affect your connection.
Maybe I missed it, but when you were talking about the fact that you need to buy games and compared it to the other platforms, you should always mention that if Stadia is discontinued you lose all your games. That's not a thing with the other marketplaces.
That's technically true, but I have huge doubts Google wouldn't do something if that happens - give out game codes, refunds of some sort, etc. It would be really bad pub otherwise
I said this in another response - as I use to feel the same about Stadia. Realistically though, think about your current Steam library (or other platform for that matter). Any platform with digital downloads could pull the plug on their service and you'd lose everything as well. In addition - most AAA games today require access to a server (always online) - so technically you would lose that game if the dev/publisher decided to pull the plug.
@@chasenthehype That's incorrect. You would lose the ability to download it again, but as long as it doesn't have online DRM (most don't) you would keep the game. It's not the same with Stadia.
I think you are forgetting google doesnt have much control over what developers port games over. We can ask google to throw money at devs but what happens if they only give sub par ports like Finial Fantasy??? Plus lets not forget Stadia is only -one-year-old. Like bruh...
I think this video should have stayed in the oven longer. No mention of CP2077. And therefore no mention of how it runs better than 190 million consoles out there. Many publications are recommending Stadia to run it if you don't have a high-end PC. And it's literally only slightly more than a year old. Just not feasible for every publisher to be porting their games to Stadia yet. 2021 will see more day and date drops to Stadia for big publisher games.
I did write this video before the cyberpunk launch so you got me there. It took a bit to film and edit. That was a big win for Stadia and thanks for bringing it up.
Having more games not being feasible is debatable. On one end they used linux so porting is required whereas luna and others used windows which should be much easier for porting. That was Google's choice and it might be one that ends up being great because they have complete control or it might be their downfall if they can't get enough devs/games to make it compelling. We'll see. I hope I'm wrong.
You can side load stadia on the new chromecast Google tv. That's how I play Stadia.
That’s true. I heard you could. Google tv doesn’t make that easy lol. I got xcloud on mine and it’s a bit wonky
I've been using it since start, the "have they fixed it?" Is a bit of a stretch as it was always working great just lacking games. If there wasn't for Cyberpunk to show people it runs so well on stadia I'm sure CZcamsrs would still follow the trend of bashing it, but because there is a bit of a new trend for some to actually try and realise is good I'm happy Stadia gets some love sometime.
make sure your saying MEGABITS not MEGABYTES when talking about download speeds.
Ive had Stadia for a couple weeks. Im never going back to playstation or xbox.
One thing i miss is a console for is to watch dvds on... other than that...
Bye bye expensive dvd players lol ill buy a cheap dvd player meant for dvds instead.
You'll miss a lot of great games... It's the games that are most important, not the platform...
I would leave my xbox one and pc, but the games just arent there right now.
for me using a stadia controller on a recent ios device results in almost no latency. theres a small amount but its very playable.
I agree. I noticed larger latency with my Bluetooth controllers on my consoles. Stadias WIFI controller solves that issue for me.
dude don't forget that it's available in few countires, it's still only one year old, so maybe it needs one more year to get to the ground: more games, available in varitey of googletv\androidtv, more countires and more games... and integration with youtube ?
the same thing with XCloud btw...
Maybe so. I hope they can make it great. I really liked the idea of stadia and hope I’m wrong
got the Ciberpunk 2077 bundle with the chromecast and the controler... but:
-wrong address on the delivery package. Door number missing.
-3 weeks waiting for a resolution.
-4 chats, 2 phone calls, 7 hours wasted talking to you people to sort this out. Nothing happened.
-Will reactivate original code to redeem again. Never happened.
-Will send me a new one. Never happened
-gave me a new one... invalid on my region.
-will write me an email with a solution. Still waiting.
-they will call me back with an answer... still waiting.
-last agent told me he will call me today to give me a full refund.....still waiting.
-Today, the agent refuse to give me an address to submit a complain against customer care. Gave me a link to report an Ad instead,
and told me that someone might call me soon... still waiting.
That sucks man
The buying it twice argument is that if your internet goes bad you don’t have a console anymore. What’s annoying is you can’t play it on a physical console either, which would obviously be ideal that you had a download function on a console or pc. What if stadia disappears? What happens to your game basically? Because no one fully trusts it yet, you’re not going to buy your catalogue of games at full price if stadia doesn’t work out, it’s a really hard sell. I fully believe cloud gaming is the future though, just needs the right approach, and if nvidia GeForce now can work, it’s the perfect compromise
Most digital downloads (and even physical games) require an always-online check-in these days...so this is the future we live it. I agree with you though - cloud gaming is the future. Nvidia is slacking (and losing game support) with GFN, and Stadia seems to be just catching their stride with it being the best CP2077 experience outside of a high-tier PC (which is a struggle upgrading right now to better GPU's being out of stock)
@@chasenthehype yeah definitely, but the difference being you can have the slowest Internet in the world and just check in once in a while, whereas stadia you need solid Internet for the duration of the game. I still find it hard to get into stadia though because I have no access to a decade of buying games on steam, so I would need stadia and a gaming pc. I've preordered shadow which is literally a Windows 10 desktop and is apparently very stable but more expensive. But unless stadia can get more games it's more of a console option as opposed to people already in pc gaming maybe? Geforce now will eventually get support but they may need to change the model slightly so people can buy games through it. It's because companies can make a lot of money by keeping you in there own service, whereas geforce shows competition. Streaming is so close already in quality and Internet is only getting faster, so it's definitely going to be mainstream soon
@@jambononi Oh totally understand that man! I’m nearing 2 decades with my Steam account so jumping into Stadia felt...off. For me though the kicker was the latest updates to a few games I play - specifically Destiny 2 and MS Flight Sim - where the download/updates were so large I had to start reorganizing my library. It’s an annoyance we’ve all experienced. Even a 2TB SSD is barely enough when some single games are coming in around 250GB. Hell, I had MSFX folders with a full TB of updates.
For a minute, I thought CZcams was glitching and meant to put that you posted this 3 months ago not 3 weeks. Didn't you see the CP2077 launch and the recent Forbes article?
I have 150mbps internet and if anyone else in my house uses the internet then Stadia is unplayable. Latency, disconnects, and framerate drops like below 30. I think it has a lot of potential but unless you are hooked up directly to your modem and you are the only one using the internet then Stadia is trash. If you really want to try it then do the 30 minute trial to see how it works. Do not pay first.
It's tough to know why that is. Some people have commented that even with 50 mbps Stadia works great and it flat out didn't for me. Maybe your location and distance from the servers are also playing a factor?
CZcamsrs can literally do what you said at the end minus the discount. Although they can give an extra month free of Stadia Pro. But any youtuber or anyone for that matter have the capability on some games to share a point of the game to try it out and play from a given point. Anyone can now sign up for stadia pro and try it for free for 30 minutes without a credit card for pro games. Also, any game on Stadia can be returned for a refund if you don't play more than 2 hours of it. Next time I advice you to do a little research before posting a video with very misguided information.
In my research I found state share is only supported by one game, so that’s why I didn’t mention it. If it’s supported by more, I’d love to know. I couldn’t find a list anywhere, just mention that crayta had it at launch. Yeah you tubers can share a link which is cool, but what I meant is more of an integration of CZcams with stadia where it’s pushing people with something a little more obvious than a link in the description. Maybe a nice big button or a small pop up after someone has watched the game for a while.
Also I don’t believe you can demo any game, just a select few. I just feel being able to demo a game that CZcams knows I’m interested in would be really cool for someone that hasn’t used stadia before. They get to try out stadia and play a game that they want to try.
I don’t hate stadia, I’m just a little disappointed after year one, but they did deliver on their promise of the number of game titles so I should have given them more credit for that. I’m hope I’m wrong and stadia has a bright future
Idk man. Im never buying a console again. Stadia is the best lol sure theres an input lag of like 0.000000001 milliseconds but the games are still enjoyable
Stadia does not have any interesting exclusives. XBox, Sony and Nintendo have many great exclusive games and it's the games that matter to me.
Input lag is usually about 50-100ms (with proper internet connection) higher than on consoles. Please stop spreading false information.
That's still very impressive and Stadia is doing a good job in reducing the lag as much as possible. But they cannot defy the laws of physics.
lol the compairison with amazon luna was a bit wonky to me, youre giving luna the edge on the 4k streaming side of things even though its not supported yet? kinda weird
that's another major issue that just exist with all products if you go to a website and shop there they'll provide you ads on other sites for that site that you just bought from even though the internet knows that you just shop there so you're likely to shop there again
This video just screams denial and a guy trying to justify his terrible choice
Denial of what? Man how petty are you to try to shit on it
i missed so much topics we should talk about it: Cloud Innovation? Crowd Play, Crowd Choice, State Share? CZcams Integration for streamers without OBS. Some point this CZcamsr don't understand: Stadia isn't just another Windows 10 Thin Client like for example Lune is... it's a Cloud Platform (Linux). Every single game has to be ported/ optimized for thins plattform so ist brilliant that so much games are already here to play. One more thing... did "The Search for Awesome" here about the gaming road map? 400 Games are planed or in development in 2021 (200 Publisher/ Developer)... so great news! And last one... Stadia could be a new great platform for small gaming studios without expensive infrastructure... so Orcs must Die 3 has never bin released without Stadia.. keep this in mind. i think Stadia had a great year... and we gamer too. Stay tuned...
Hey thanks for sharing!
The innovative cloud features are exciting but a sore spot for me too. From the research I did only one game supports state share and the other features you said, I don’t believe the majority of games support it. I do believe you can stream any game on CZcams though and that’s cool.
I do understand that stadia runs on Linux and that was their choice - for good or bad they have to live with that. I’m sure they didn’t want to play Microsoft for windows support and wanted more control both are good things. But the side effect is devs have a harder time porting a game. And if they did it so they could introduce innovative features, that’s really cool. But again a lot of devs are just porting their game and not adding those features which is a bummer.
I don’t hate stadia, in my first video about stadia a year ago I was really excited about it. I’m just a bit disappointed after a year and I don’t see a bright future. I hope I’m wrong though. Also I should have given them more credit for hitting their goal of the amount of games they were targeting this year.
@@TheSearchForAwesome thank you for your feedback. That's great! I understand your point and i think Stadia will be strong regarding the giant amount of 400 Games next year and we will see that Stadia will go the Netflix way in direction of their own game studios and productions.You know: If netflix has only content from third party they didn't had the big success they have now... same story with Stadia. So i think we will see that more and more games will produced from the Google Studios as cloud native games with exciting new features (you will get only in a cloud). We have to be patient.. this takes time... remember the netflix story 10 years ago. We make a mistake to judge new concepts from a perspective today. Think about the Iphone... in the very first begining... and the comments from Microsoft.
You can side load stadia to Nvidia shield tv or any android TV and it works great. Also on firestick
BTW you mean Mbps for your Internet not MB/s. MegaBITS per second not MegaBYTES per second.
Surprised you don’t mention Cyberpunk 2077 an the free Stadia Premier which is kinda the inverse of what you suggested (buy stadia and get a free game) and in my experience has brought a HUGE amount of people to Stadia. Also, multiple times you mentioned Stadia is a new console and needs to be thought of that way. And yet you say “Why don’t they have every game?” You provided your own answer. Luna and GeForce Now are just running glorified Windows servers, with all the pros and cons of that. It means they don’t even need to get devs to make their games for the service, but you lose many of the benefits of Stadia (including launching Asassin’s Creed: Valhalla in like 15 seconds while it takes 1 minute 30 seconds on GeForce Now). Every dev that Stadia courts needs to completely convert their game to Stadia. Switch ran into the same issue when it first launched.
The 130+ games it has isn't that different from other consoles in their first year. And, 400 more games on the way in the next year or two. Been having a blast with it.
Have had for 3 months, biggest & best saving I have ever made for wanting to play games & the games looks great! I use my laptop hooked up to my TV and no issue. Only issue I get is Wifi freezes as I do not have luxury of an ethernet port on my system, but have had no other issues. Other services like Geforce Now are good to play your games on too, but I find the latency and response times much slower and I get regular freezes more often than Stadia, despite GN being much older. Definitely worth the money, even if you have to buy games again. I bought Farcry 5 again, cause, its Farcry 5! The free games on pro are also a nice feature, specially the Hitman series, have had hours of fun on every game I've got on my account.
just something you need to get right because it's a factor of EIGHT, internet speeds are in megaBITS, that's 1/8th of a megabyte (per second)
I'm puzzled by all the negative comments towards this video. Great job on this video.
The Search for Awesome: Cloud Streaming is the way to go.
Comcrap: Not if we can help it! Here's a fucking 1.2TB God damn Data cap! And pay us more!
Yeah not a fan of comcast - glad I don't have them. Hopefully people have better options
Stadia will be delivering 400 plus this year lol chill and wait people its worth the wait when it saves you money
400 games are i development right now, but from what I heard that doesn’t mean all games are coming out next year. We’ll see
There is absolutely no issue with Stadia as long as you have great internet. I love the service!
That’s the problem though, most people don’t have great internet
@@unlimitedpower5027 I agree, most people don’t and that’s a shame that many providers can’t do a better job no matter the price the customer is paying for their internet.
They've invested half a billion dollars into making games for stadia also they just announced maybe this was after your video recording but they just announced that they're going to be on all Sony TVs and I can't remember the brand names maybe LG or something like that where they're going to be on pretty much a majority or a large portion of smart TVs that are made in 2021.
When you got your internet upgrade did they replace the router/ wifi? Good video, I use stadia on an older pc and I love it.
Thanks! No I didn't change my router or modem or anything
Whats is to fix? Those who are complaining in latency are those with just hate because they want to justify their investment cost on steam and their rigs and consoles. Trust me using ethernet connection on stadia makes a difference. You just need 50mbps and ethernet with ping
Stadia has integration (crowd play / crowd choice) with CZcams for certain games such as Outcasters, Super Bomberman R Online, and Baldurs gate 3.
What AAA games would you like to see on the platform?
I feel like Stadia already has a decent variety of them at this point. Enough of a selection for the average gamer. (If Stadia gets COD that'd help a ton)
BG3 is came to Stadia before console which is sign of Google's investment.
My feeling is that the issue of Stadia adoption isn't a library issue, it's a perception issue.
Because for the majority of gamers, the current library and developers/publishers they signed on are enough.
I appreciate your insight!
I’d like to see Madden, COD, fortnite, gta - just because they are popular and would get people interested I’d think. Hades was game of the year at a lot of places, it would be cool to get that. Just to name a few.
I might have been too hard on them on the library, you’re right it’s a pretty good variety. I hope the day comes where a game announced and it’s just assumed it’s on stadia, ya know? I think that would be huge.
I guess it depends on wifi as well as what you'd want from a gaming platform, but at least In my expirences stadia rivals my consoles, even the series x. I've had minor issues, but even the ps4 and xbox one have given me more crap to deal with. The biggest con tho is not really 'owning' the games, really only an issue if stadia were to shut down, which I don't entirely agree is going to happen. It just feels like a lot of people want to bitch about stadia, purely just to bitch about it. It's def not the best place to get serious with games, but as like an additional place to play without having to deal with game optimization and getting (like in CP2077 case) pretty much the next gen console experience without the console, is fairly neat. Itd be great if it got more support from developers and Google, but who knows?
Is there an actual console? I want to be able to use ethernet
you're able to use ethernet with the ccu
They need better games for the pro subscription, then it will be worth it, right now youre only getting indie games, which are fun but rarely hold my attention like a bigger game
Does it support games from all platforms?
No
Yeah I'm not paying for a subscription , then paying for a subscription in the subscription so I can play other games. That's dumb.
Yeah I'm not paying for online on consoles for 60 bucks when the online on stadia is free
Excellent prediction on Stadia dying.
Play a first person shooter and tell me input lag isn't horrendous
50MBits, not MBytes :-)
Youre right. My bad
What are your thoughts on stadia's proclamation that they will have over 400 games?
That is promising to hear and it might help turn things around, but it depends on the quality of the games and if they are getting major titles. Don’t get me wrong, stadia has a few major titles, but nothing like Xbox or PlayStation or Steam for that matter. The tech works great, but if I can’t play all the games i want to play on it, it stops me from committing to it fully. It’s more a side attraction for me
can I add you on stadia?
You said "But Stadia cant even run .... At this resolution and this frame rate"
It can, it's up to the developers.
The Division 2 runs In 4k 60fps. An ubisoft game. But I don't like that game. Farcry 5 is also ubisoft, but it runs at 30fps, and I actually like THAT game more. Someone unfamiliar with how things work would easily get mad at Google here and say "hey Google what the hell? The division 2 runs better than Farcry 5? Why?" But it's not Google fault. Google can EAASSIILLY run any game they have at 4K 60. They're just sitting there waiting like "don't look at us, tell the developers"
Also yea the megabyte and megabit thing drives me absolutely insane too. Other than those two things, great video. And the clip of your daughter messing with the controller while saying she's a gamer? Genius lol
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah you’re right, the devs have to optimize I’d imagine and Google can’t control that. The only thing they can control is the tech they use which they went with Linux instead of windows which might be why games aren’t running as well. A lot of games are developed to run on windows and lot aren’t are developed to run on Linux, so the devs probably have more work to do when they port a game. I’m just theorizing though. Luna runs on windows, so we’ll see if games run better as a result.
Thanks so much, she is a cutie :)
@@TheSearchForAwesome exactly it's almost like every previously made game has to be made from scratch all over again using Vulcan. But going forward when a developer makes a brand new game across all platforms INCLUDING Stadia, it should theoretically be much easier because they know what to expect now. Its almost like Ubisoft went all in on Stadia and ported over a lot of their games but they picked and chose which ones to spend more time on to make 60fps over 30fps. My theory is now that they ported a lot of games over to Stadia In general, now they can focus full time on Farcry 6, then once after Farcry 6 is released, they can go back and port more older ubisoft games and also work on Farcry 5 again and patch it to 60fps around mid 2021 (I hear Farcry 6 will be released in May and I'll bet you anything it'll be running 60fps). That's my theory.
@@TheSearchForAwesome and as for the windows part yea luna should in theory get games quicker because they can just use the PC version but seeing how easily ubisoft ported over a lot of games from scratch and how rockstar ported over Red Dead like it was nothing, these developers are already getting used to Vulcan. I hear rockstar is porting over GTA 5 as we speak and we're getting the next gen version.
Yeah I hope so. But if a dev doesn't think they will make a lot of money on stadia, we might see half-hearted ports that don't run well or they might not get the game at all.
Hopefully devs will see the potential.
@@TheSearchForAwesome exactly. I also hope now with how successful Cyberpunk was on Stadia, many developers will see the advantages and start to go all in. We're only a year in to this new venture we call Stadia. I think it'll be a major competitor in 3-4 years. People are reeeeaaallly annoyed about having to download and install games and running out of space.
Stadia should sell arcade classics with online play and some of the newest ones that you see in Dave and busters , games like daytona usa the newest one out in arcades now stuff like that
If stadia gives fifa21 for free ..it's a game changer
is that something you just dreamed up or should i get excited?
It was never broken
Dudes it’s megabits measure of bandwidth is megabits , storage size is measure in megabytes bits and bytes are two totally different unit of measurement. So it needs 50 megabits minimum and you just upgraded to a 1 gigabit internet connection 😉
Thanks - messed that up - 50 megabits was what I meant to say. For whatever reason that didn't work for me. Other people said it did for them though.
It definitely is a lost cause. Fuck outta the gaming industry. I don't need a console or a PC to play xcloud either. It runs better (albeit lower resolution) and has the Gamepass library which kicks the living shit out of stadia.... I am on a 3 month deal for a dollar it comes with 300+ high quality games and new games are added every month... Not to mention the sales and free Disney plus I have.... There is no universe in which stadia or Luna compete....
Instead of a membership I'd rather buy the game and then I could log on and just play it
But I still need my physical copies of games makes me happy seeing my collection
Looks like you needed to do a bit more research before putting this video up...according to the majority of your comments section, Stadia is far better than you wanted to give it credit for and I agree. It's worth considering over next Gen consoles even especially if you play any of the newly released Ubisoft games heavily or casually. Also your daughter is adorable!
You get a heart for calling my daughter adorable :). And as Im writing this she is trying to get my phone out of my hand lol
I was shocked at how many people came out to support stadia. Watching my video back, I still agree with the majority of my arguments. If I were making this video now, I'd only tweak a few things, but sediment would be about the same. Stadia has a ways to go to be a big player in the gaming space.
With that said, the fact that Stadia has a passionate community is awesome and it gives me hope that I'm wrong. I want stadia to succeed. I'm considering making a follow-up video where I talk about this more and give some of the great points brought up some light.
My premiere edition came today and damn am I happy with stadia. The tv experience is just mind-blowing, very different than playing on pc with a mouse and keyboard. I am impressed.
Glad you like it!
This guy doesn't understand difference between a port and native game. Kinda scary
Not sure what you mean by that tbh. I know the difference between the two, it just doesn’t change that stadia has no where as many games as the big dogs of gaming.
Stadia chose Linux which means porting will be harder, but that was their choice. Look at GeForce now - on their site they list over 800 supported games.
I’m not saying that GeForce now is better, but clearly they have a better game selection. I genuinely hope Stadia has a bright future though, I’m just not so sure right now.
@@TheSearchForAwesome It takes 3-5 years for a AAA game to develop for a platform. To expect lots of AAA titles within 12 months of launch is very very optimistic . That's all.
@@TheSearchForAwesome Yes GeForce has more games, but the experience is nothing like Stadia. It's not even in the same league.
Well yeah, Stadia exclusives are going to take a while. I'm just talking 3rd party - they have some good titles, but theres a lot missing
You are rong if your going to make video about something do a fack check with ubisoft plus you don't have to pay the stadia membership you can get stadia free with ubisoft plus
I appreciate the feedback, I was referring to 4k support, my apologies for not making that more clear.
I don't think I ever said it was a better business model, did I? If I did, I didn't mean to. We won't really know what has the better business model until we see their complete catalog and "channels" they offer. It's an interesting approach. We will see which one people prefer in the long run. I certainly find netflix more compelling than buying all of my shows on dvd/blu-ray - not sure if I'll feel the same about games until I try it.
Luna says 4k is coming, not sure when though.
I just wanna play cyber punk
Not true I have Luna and it's 5.99 a month to even have the service. So it's 6 bucks to play any game
Thanks for responding. I don't have luna so I've been referencing their site. What is not true?
Also from what I read, you can buy ubisoft + straight from luna without getting luna+ for $6. You subscribe to channels from what I understand.
I'm thinking about getting one I really want one the thing about it Playstation Xbox have big exclusives and stadia don't
They didn't
You seem to forget that the pro subscription you get the features like 4K 60fps but it’s down to the developers to allows this in game and once you sub for a while you end up with a Netflix style game pass subscription. Google was giving away a free stadia controller with cyberpunk purchase or if you had already subscription to CZcams premium, so unless your new to this they been giving away a tone load of stuff plus giving away £10 to a purchase and a handful of good games for less than £10! And to top it off stadia has official announced 200 game developers making makes for stadia and 400 games coming by the end of 2021. They have been so busy there looking at mid 2023 there launch was rocky but they was out the gate with more games than the Xbox one did
I really appreciate your opinion. You’re right, maybe I didn’t give stadia enough credit for what they’ve tried like giving away things to get people on board.
It’s cool to see so many people passionate about stadia, I hope I’m wrong and they have a bright future. I’m not seeing yet based on the first year, but we’ll see!
Hope you have a good new year.
@@TheSearchForAwesome thats crazy how you cant see they have a bright future, i feel you need to do some digging about. the deals they have done and what they have said alone there really spending hard on stadia and with “gen 2” hardware as some are calling it with upgrades coming to the server. Plus they have pulled out all the stops with there promise like state share working etc etc and what is to come it mind blowing. Honestly do some homework
When researching this video I looked through the stadia blog for real info on features that 100% confirmed. I mostly found a handful of games being announced each month and a few features.
2nd gen hardware is not 100% confirmed as far as I can tell. It's not mentioned in the stadia blog and all I've read on it is rumors. It sounds awesome if they deliver.
State share has been mentioned since the beginning of stadia and as far as I can tell one game supports it. Again, it sounds awesome if they deliver.
I think that's one of my issues, lots of promises - some of which they delivered on and some they haven't.
If you watch my video a year ago on stadia, I was hyped on what might be. This video was looking just at what stadia is in my eyes. I respect your opinion and hope you're right because I get no joy out of seeing it fail. If 6 months from now things are looking better, I'm happy to make a follow-up video admitting I'm wrong. We'll see.
@@TheSearchForAwesome google did say “gen2” isn’t a thing because it applies the hole system will be updated at once and they said it will be update as individual parts though out the year as and when they’re needed or they want to
They also said from now on they will under promise and over deliver because the back lash of how the roll out went but they have now delivered on all that they have promised and unfortunately you are correct state share is only available for one game that is comming soon so it’s really down to developers and not google to apply features, so overall at its state without developers implementing features it already looks better than most consoles
Thanks for following up! Where did they say this? I didn’t see it in their blog when I was researching. Just curious. Under promising and overdelivering is probably a pretty good move!
I think you should check out xbox gamepass ultimate and how they do it. It is MUCH better than Stadia. And I was excited about Stadia myself.
It's pretty awesome from what I've seen. I don't see it as a stadia alternative just because I have doubts xcloud will ever perform as good as a xbox series x because that hurts them moneywise, whereas with Stadia I think that's a possibility because they are trying to get interest and to get gamers on board.
Still ultimate is a great deal
Gamepass Ultimate is fantastic (especially on PC) - but it doesn't 'solve' the issue of having to download the games and make room for those. Stadia is instant. Find game, play it anywhere you have internet.
@@chasenthehype No, it does has a cloud service. You do not have to download games. I have been using it on my android phone and even sideloaded it on my nvidia shield TV. it runs fantastically.
@@TheSearchForAwesome idk.. I've been using it and the graphics, gameplay, connection, load times, etc has been phenomenal.
I think that the console market is going to be trying to throw their weight around to try to keep google out of the gaming industry.
@@beardsandbraid3189 Oh right I forgot about XCloud (or Xbox Cloud Gaming)! I’m on iOS so don’t have access yet. If they can make the experience nearly as seamless as Stadia, I might have to go for it - specifically if it allows for PC game streaming at 4K from the Xbox app. Not having to upgrade my hardware to play games like MS Flight Sim from my PC would be amazing. Currently it (MSFS) runs decently on my PC - but that would be a huge.
Honestly works pretty great now just needs more games and at least EA and Ubisoft is signing on.
Agreed!
The fact that not every game out there is not available is because of the special architecture for which the games need to be ported for, but it allows better user experience in the short term and better, cloud-native games in the long run. I'm quite excited about it since don't have any other consoles. It's great. Also, you probably mean megabits, not megabytes, when taking about the internet speed. Oh and they gave out a free Premiere Edition (worth $99 to anyone who pre-ordered Cyberpunk)
I’m glad to hear you like it! I don’t hate stadia, my only real issue is the library. I like everything else about it tbh.
From reading your comment and others, I probably should have mentioned how much progress they have made. The cyberpunk deal was a great move and I should have mentioned it. Giving away stadia premiere isn’t that exciting to me because I sort of feel the whole point of stadia is you don’t need special hardware to play (which you don’t). But it was a good move none the less.
I truly hope stadia had a bright future, I’m not seeing it yet, but I hope I’m wrong.
So I just recently bought stadia, PlayStation broke and I was bored at home so I have a Google pixel 2 XL seen that it was supposed to work for it and looked and there was an assassin's Creed origin for 15 bucks, and I can play it on my phone without a control which was great so 3 days later I went and bought the controller and the Chromecast and then bought Odyssey for $37 with the dlc works great I've only had to drop connection once and I'm pretty sure that was just my Wi-Fi works well on my phone with the controller as well just want some more games to come out on it cuz I don't mind paying for the games on there I mean I bought them everywhere else anyways lol
And the one bonus I found with having stadia pro is they give a huge discounts on games lol at least anything made by Ubisoft anyways
That’s awesome! I’m glad you like it so far. It’s really cool tech. I truly hope I’m wrong about it in the long run
@@TheSearchForAwesome I mean it might be a niche products but it's really good for people that don't want to fork out the money for game system works great and hopefully they'll be more games soon lol
Can I play gta 5 in it