I have tried both the dragonfly and the victory for track this season. I like the dragon for mile and longer because of the cushion and less agressive. For the 800 I tried the victory’s twice and ran 2:05 both times because my legs had nothing left with 200 to go. I then tried dragons in the 800 and ran 2:03 and then 2:00 and had really good kicks and my legs felt really good so I think for my running style I like the dragons cause they less agressive and save my legs for latter part of race
I've only tried the Air Zoom Victory and have some notable points on the shoe. It's an amazing spike, especially for me since I did the 800m and 1600m events. It's super responsive and yes, springy. It actually makes a funny popping noise as you run. However, durability is atrocious on these. It's quite literally like a supercar; they have great performance but don't last long. If you're looking for a more durable spike that's good all around, the Dragonfly seems like the best option. Just my thoughts.
@@jamie_robertson3114 I wanna say about 2 months of workouts where I'd spike up for the final rep or two and 4 races(1K, 2 1600s, and an 800). When I was spiking up for an 800 one day I noticed a hole in the side, likely from my previous races and workouts as well as the spike plate beginning to separate.
I think Nike made a design flaw with the victories with the bottom plate separating from the foam after only a few workouts and meets. They only last a season before it became defective for me at least
I have questions: Nike dragonfly spikes size is true size with shoes? For example I have nike rival distance , the size of rival is small . My running spikes from adidas is 8US 26cm. There is no free spaces. It is right size. Soo which size I will be buy from dragon fly? 8.US or 8.5US
Ordered the dragonfly’s lastnight after watching the review. Appreciate the advice. Check 14u junior olympics 3000m results for performance feedback in august 👊🏼💥
I love my dragonfly’s tbh did me well this season and felt faster. Note I’m very new to track and field and haven’t really used spikes but when I started using the dragonfly I fell in love with them.
I just bought the victories for my upcoming xc season because they were on sale. They haven’t arrived yet and I don’t have many other options that I can find in my size except for the $65 Nike xc ones (forget what they are called). Do you think they will be fine for my xc season?
This is pretty late but I was wondering which spike I should get if I’m running the 1k and the mile this coming indoor season. I heard that the victory’s are not very durable and the zoomx foam would separate from the bottom plate. Is this true?
Are the zoom victory good for 400m/ 400m hurdles? I always use sprint spikes but my feet hurt a lot and I'm thinking maybe these are less agressive for me
yes you could use the air zoom victories for the 400m/409m hurdles but nike made the air zoom maxflys for those events. the maxflys are similar to the air zoom victories but they are more tailored towards sprint events
For someone running 400m-3000m who owns the dragonflies, would you recommend also getting the victories? Perhaps racing in the vics and training in the dragonflies since they are more protective?
i like the dragonflies for any distance 800m and up. if the 400m is one of your primary events, i would recommend getting the nike air zoom Maxfly to race in (i've heard great things about them). i personally don't think the victories would be a good investment but having the dragonflies and the mayflies to race in would be good!
@@runnershigh. The Mayfly looks better than the Victory for the 800 as well. Many to runners like MU from the States uses it for the 800. Looks like the victory has no place unfortunately
I’ve got a 100m race in 3 days and just ordered the dragonfly’s. Do you think I’m ok or need to get a different pair? I’ve researched all over for the best sprint spike and can’t find a good recommended shoe. I hope I havnt gone wrong with the dragonfly.
Yo same with the size part, always been a 11 until I bought the dragonfly, do you think it’s worth it to have both? I specialize in the 2 mile but I often run 800s and mile and don’t have a specific pair of spikes for the 800 and use the dragonfly for that race and they feel too squishy for it. I’m not sure if I want to buy the zoom air victory. I’m also racing in college next year and could use them for more years, do you think it’s worth it to buy them for the mile and 800 and keep the dragonfly for two mile and 5k next year?
i think if you’re racing range is 800-5k it would be worth it to buy both. also having both would make it so you don’t wear down your dragonfly spikes too much. if you do get the Air Zoom Victory make sure to buy a 1/2 size down
i run 400 and 800 meters i'm recovering from a feet injury and i need a comfortable shoe that supports my front part of the feet would you recommend me the victories or the dragonflies?
i’d recommend the dragonfly for you. normally for those distances i’d recommend the victories, but the dragonfly spike offers more support for the forefoot
Wouldn’t a completely different XC styled shoe be better for XC? Since I know dragonflies are meant for track, UNLESS you replace the track spikes on the dragonfly with XC ones.
i don't think so. the airbags were the first thing that deteriorated on my pair but if you're a heel striker that means you're not putting as much wear on the airbags as if you were a forefoot striker
@@runnershigh. yea the heels on mine started peeling off until it was missing like an half an inch of cushion over two months of maybe once to twice a week for a 800m or 1600m of volume
I bought the Air zoom victory's since I mostly run the 800m and 1500m. Lately I've started to run longer distance like 3000m and 5000m. Do you recommend buying the dragonfly for this or do you think the victory's are fine enough?
i’d say invest in a pair of dragonfly’s for the longer distances. the victory’s are good but the dragonfly are better for longer distances and worth the investment. also if you’re rotating between two pairs of spikes that’ll keep both pairs fresher because you’re putting less miles on them
definitely the dragonflys. i raced my whole cross country season in them and they were great. the air zoom victories would probably be too unstable for cross country terrain
Size 10.5 & 5 ounces could be expanded for the international viewers such as myself by saying "In my Mens size 10.5 US the Dragonfly weighs 5 ounces, which is x in grams". It adds a bit of clarity if it's done this way. Great review.
I have tried both the dragonfly and the victory for track this season. I like the dragon for mile and longer because of the cushion and less agressive. For the 800 I tried the victory’s twice and ran 2:05 both times because my legs had nothing left with 200 to go. I then tried dragons in the 800 and ran 2:03 and then 2:00 and had really good kicks and my legs felt really good so I think for my running style I like the dragons cause they less agressive and save my legs for latter part of race
I've only tried the Air Zoom Victory and have some notable points on the shoe. It's an amazing spike, especially for me since I did the 800m and 1600m events. It's super responsive and yes, springy. It actually makes a funny popping noise as you run. However, durability is atrocious on these. It's quite literally like a supercar; they have great performance but don't last long. If you're looking for a more durable spike that's good all around, the Dragonfly seems like the best option. Just my thoughts.
How many miles did you do before it started to fall apart/decrease in performance
@@jamie_robertson3114 I wanna say about 2 months of workouts where I'd spike up for the final rep or two and 4 races(1K, 2 1600s, and an 800). When I was spiking up for an 800 one day I noticed a hole in the side, likely from my previous races and workouts as well as the spike plate beginning to separate.
any recomendation good shoes for 5k for daily?
@@nowhat9785 the new Nike Streakfly’s are good but hard to get. The hoka mach 4s are also pretty good and more of a daily shoe.
@@matthewsullivan9727 thankyou, but did you try the peg 38? is it just okay?
Great review!
That edit when you pushed the shoes together to become the air zoom victory was really cool
Just came across your channel as i saw u are subbed to me! This Is a great video... now to binge watch all ur vidoes ahah
thanks David!
I think Nike made a design flaw with the victories with the bottom plate separating from the foam after only a few workouts and meets. They only last a season before it became defective for me at least
great review thanks
very well explained:)
Just got my dragonfly’s in the mail yesterday, and they look super sick. I haven’t used them in a workout yet, but I’m super excited to!
that’s awesome! i’d be interested to hear your thoughts once you try them out
how about now?
@@nowhat9785 legend has it he still hasn’t ran in them yet
@@alecibarra8862 But he is still super excited though...
@@dignes3446 two years later, he still has them in the box
I have questions: Nike dragonfly spikes size is true size with shoes?
For example I have nike rival distance , the size of rival is small . My running spikes from adidas is 8US 26cm. There is no free spaces. It is right size. Soo which size I will be buy from dragon fly? 8.US or 8.5US
i was just looking at reviews and found this and just noticed we stayed at the hatc in kenya together this summer
small world! were you w Strive?
I want those victorys soo bad
Ordered the dragonfly’s lastnight after watching the review. Appreciate the advice. Check 14u junior olympics 3000m results for performance feedback in august 👊🏼💥
the dragonfly’s will be great for the 3k. good luck!
@@runnershigh. Bryan Hailey should be close or under the 9:03 national record. We’ll see 👊🏼💥
Favorite race is still footlocker in Charlotte NC. Digging the shirt and looking forward to thanksgiving on the East coast again this year
Way to go! 9:14 not bad!
RIP to the top of that ping pong table
Can you use those for trail woods and is it comfortable for long run
I love my dragonfly’s tbh did me well this season and felt faster. Note I’m very new to track and field and haven’t really used spikes but when I started using the dragonfly I fell in love with them.
First comment, word
I just bought the victories for my upcoming xc season because they were on sale. They haven’t arrived yet and I don’t have many other options that I can find in my size except for the $65 Nike xc ones (forget what they are called). Do you think they will be fine for my xc season?
i think you can run cross in the victories, but i’d probably recommend the dragonfly instead if you can get your hands on them
I run the 800 and 1600 I tend to have more of a heel strike do you think the victory or dragonfly would be better for me?
i think the Air Zoom Victory would be better for those distances regardless of foot strike
This is pretty late but I was wondering which spike I should get if I’m running the 1k and the mile this coming indoor season. I heard that the victory’s are not very durable and the zoomx foam would separate from the bottom plate. Is this true?
I got the Nike air zoom victory and they are totally worth it! I run the 800 and 1600 and have drop significant time wearing them
Are the zoom victory good for 400m/ 400m hurdles? I always use sprint spikes but my feet hurt a lot and I'm thinking maybe these are less agressive for me
yes you could use the air zoom victories for the 400m/409m hurdles but nike made the air zoom maxflys for those events. the maxflys are similar to the air zoom victories but they are more tailored towards sprint events
For someone running 400m-3000m who owns the dragonflies, would you recommend also getting the victories? Perhaps racing in the vics and training in the dragonflies since they are more protective?
i like the dragonflies for any distance 800m and up. if the 400m is one of your primary events, i would recommend getting the nike air zoom Maxfly to race in (i've heard great things about them). i personally don't think the victories would be a good investment but having the dragonflies and the mayflies to race in would be good!
@@runnershigh. Cheers for the reply! Maxflies would be great...only if they were available anywhere. I'll be on the lookout
@@runnershigh. The Mayfly looks better than the Victory for the 800 as well. Many to runners like MU from the States uses it for the 800. Looks like the victory has no place unfortunately
I’ve got a 100m race in 3 days and just ordered the dragonfly’s. Do you think I’m ok or need to get a different pair? I’ve researched all over for the best sprint spike and can’t find a good recommended shoe. I hope I havnt gone wrong with the dragonfly.
sorry just saw this, how’d it go?
Hello, im from south korea
thank you for your review
and i have question about what is more proper 2km racing on the track?
i would recommend the dragonfly for a 2k race. good luck!
Ficou ótimo! Dragonfly 🤩
Just got my dragonfly’s today and holy I’m stoked for first race
they’re great! best of luck!
Thank you so much!
You need to weigh them without spikes in them, since they can wear down differently and throw off the comparison
Yo same with the size part, always been a 11 until I bought the dragonfly, do you think it’s worth it to have both? I specialize in the 2 mile but I often run 800s and mile and don’t have a specific pair of spikes for the 800 and use the dragonfly for that race and they feel too squishy for it. I’m not sure if I want to buy the zoom air victory. I’m also racing in college next year and could use them for more years, do you think it’s worth it to buy them for the mile and 800 and keep the dragonfly for two mile and 5k next year?
i think if you’re racing range is 800-5k it would be worth it to buy both. also having both would make it so you don’t wear down your dragonfly spikes too much. if you do get the Air Zoom Victory make sure to buy a 1/2 size down
@@runnershigh. about how big of a deal is it to go half a size down for the Air Zoom Victory’s,like can it still work with your running shoe size
Do you think there’d be much of a disadvantage in racing in the dragonflies rather than the ones with the carbon plate?
not at all, i think the plastic plate in the dragonflys plays the same role as a carbon fiber plate
@@runnershigh. good to know! Seen a lot of elites still opting for dragonflies so it makes sense
Thanks for the review! I run 1600 and 3200 which would you recommend, thanks.
i’d recommend the dragonfly for those distances
@@runnershigh. thank you so much
If I have the zoom victory 3 do you think it would be worth getting the dragonfly?
yes, the dragonfly give far more energy return than the zoom victory 3 and feel way bouncier under foot
Which shoes do you think would be the best for distances of 800, 1500 and 2000-3000 steeplechase? thackyou
I’m late asf but the dragonfly is best for the 1500 and up
i run 400 and 800 meters
i'm recovering from a feet injury and i need a comfortable shoe that supports my front part of the feet
would you recommend me the victories or the dragonflies?
I don't have either, but based on his other replies he seems to be recommending the Victory for distances 1 mile and under
i’d recommend the dragonfly for you. normally for those distances i’d recommend the victories, but the dragonfly spike offers more support for the forefoot
Could I use the victory’s for sprinting? The sprinting versions are not coming back in stock
yes you definitely could, some of the sprinters on my team use the victory's
I’ve been running the 800 in dragonfly’s. Do u think it’s a good idea to wear those for xc. Or are they not really for that
i raced my whole xc season in the dragonfly on all different courses and loved them!
@@runnershigh. ok great. I’ll probably run in those this season
@@runnershigh. what’s better for XC season in hs. Dragonfly’s or Nike zoom x next%2
@@ramenbandito2936 Dragonfly cause you need the pins in those muddy courses
Wouldn’t a completely different XC styled shoe be better for XC? Since I know dragonflies are meant for track, UNLESS you replace the track spikes on the dragonfly with XC ones.
Is heel striking going to effect how fast the Air Zoom Victories wear out?
i don't think so. the airbags were the first thing that deteriorated on my pair but if you're a heel striker that means you're not putting as much wear on the airbags as if you were a forefoot striker
@@runnershigh. yea the heels on mine started peeling off until it was missing like an half an inch of cushion over two months of maybe once to twice a week for a 800m or 1600m of volume
Which spike would you consider to be more 400-800?
definitely the nike air zoom victory
@@runnershigh. sweet thanks!
I have records of 4:03 and 15:7 for both 1500m and 5000m, which should I wear, Dragonfly or Air Zoom Victory?
definitely the dragonfly, good luck!
Thank you
@@user-ru1ei8ct2c did you end up getting them?
I bought the Air zoom victory's since I mostly run the 800m and 1500m.
Lately I've started to run longer distance like 3000m and 5000m.
Do you recommend buying the dragonfly for this or do you think the victory's are fine enough?
i’d say invest in a pair of dragonfly’s for the longer distances. the victory’s are good but the dragonfly are better for longer distances and worth the investment. also if you’re rotating between two pairs of spikes that’ll keep both pairs fresher because you’re putting less miles on them
I agree with Runner's High. I also invested in getting both pairs for that reason :)
Would you say these spikes can also be used on an XC course, or are they recommended only for the track?
i would say you can definitely use the dragonfly on an xc course but the air zoom victory would probably be a little too unstable on uneven ground
@@runnershigh. good to know!
You shouldn’t really take track spikes on an xc course, while you can, it’s not highly recommended and you should try to get a separate pair for xc
@@eianbutler3749 then I guess it's a good thing I already do😁
@@eianbutler3749 I agree, my brother used track spikes in XC and the material of the spike started to fall apart after the season ended
So the Dragonflys for track, but what about Cross Country?
definitely the dragonflys. i raced my whole cross country season in them and they were great. the air zoom victories would probably be too unstable for cross country terrain
Prefer me a nike for me !
I do the 400m ! 🔥
For 1500 to 5000 which would you get ?
probably the nike dragonfly’s. they are the more versatile of the two
do you have any advice t me a hs freshman distance runner
don’t be afraid to work hard and try to be accountable for your own training
@@runnershigh. thanks so much
Brooks elimin8 are much better for the 800 then the air zoom victory
good to know, i’ve never tried those
i have air victory’s and elimin8’s and i personally think the air victory’s are better for 800 i just have a better times in them
I’ve always been more of a vibram guy
lol
I'll stick with the Vic 3. Light, stiff, responsive. No gimmicks
Just got my victory's, Dragonflys sold out in like half a second 😢
Same broo
how much u pay em for?
@@stevocanuck £159 😢😢
For the 3200m, what’s the best
i would go w the dragonfly’s
am i crazy if i hurdle with these
the airzoom victories
nah i don’t think so
you’re only crazy if you fall
Size 10.5 & 5 ounces could be expanded for the international viewers such as myself by saying "In my Mens size 10.5 US the Dragonfly weighs 5 ounces, which is x in grams". It adds a bit of clarity if it's done this way. Great review.
good point, thanks for bringing it up. i will make sure to do the conversions in future vids
I run 800/1500 metres. Dragonfly o air zoom victory. My last shoes are victory.
i would go w the victories. while you could run mid distance events in the dragonfly, it’s not what they’re made for
They are meant for different things can’t really compare them about comfort or that sort of thing
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