Rhino Arc 2 Vs Edelkrone Review | Watch Before you Buy your Next Slider
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- čas přidán 12. 05. 2021
- In this video review I do an in depth comparison of the Edelkrone Slider vs the Rhino Arc 2 Slider. We tested both the sliders in hands on shooting situations. This review was not paid for by either company!
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Let me know in the comments which slider you think is better!
The Rhino motor must be on the top side to handle angle slider better😉👍🏼
Got to be the rhino just for how much steadier it is... seems you'd be relying on warp stabiliser with the edelkrone? Thanks for this vid was really interesting
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Tbh im pretty shocked how shaky and bumpy the edelkrone was.
I wouldve get a edelkrone but if i need to apply warp satbilizer even with a 500$+ slider i think it misses the point
16:00 Rhino seems like a clear winner to me 😅
You have no idea how much I needed this. Thanks for the effort.
So glad to hear that!
Man it’s kinda nice to know someone else’s edelkrone isn’t super smooth! I thought it was just me haha! Looks like a rhino is on the wish list.. stability is most important to me.. looks like
a clear winner across most categories thought! 👌🏼
Yes!! Been waiting for this from you Austen 💥💥💥
I got the edelkrone with all the bells, whistles and lasers. I also got an RMA form by the end of the day....
finally a video comparing these two!!
Good to know that the high speed motor still has a little tilt capability! Just grabbed one for $980 after having the Rhino v1
I’m all about Rhino 😊🤘🔥🔥 love my Arc ii
Wow this is the video I've been waiting for👌
Heck yeah stoked to hear that!!
I too was quite shocked by the amount of vibration on the Edelkrone setup. I was also shocked by the lack of power on both the slider and the PT head. I build and supply kits for the Digital Bird DIY system and have experience building both the over the top Rhino style head and the Balanced Edelkrone style head. An additional point to consider when choosing is do you ever see yourself wanting to use the head on the end of a Jib? If you do then the Rhino head will not work well since the balance of the Jib will dramatically change as the full weight of the camera goes over. Balanced heads do not have this issue.
I'm really surprised with the shake on your edelkrone setup. I found I only had these kind of shakes when the tracks were dirty or the slider motor gear belt was too loose. I also generally try to have the tripod legs out as far as the track is extending so avoid tripod flex too. Sandbags help a lot of course, but I still find having the legs spread out further is pretty key.
Absolutely agree. I have the newer slider long and no shake issues with a Laowa probe lens. I was surprised by the amount of shake (mine is pretty smooth) Maybe the slider has dirt or is worn out. I also second that you need to spread the tripod legs further for stability. I saw a couple of frames where you were holding on to the tripod to support it, that will induce shake.
Lastly great comparison, thank you for spending the time to do this.
He's using the absolutely wrong tripod for Edelkrone. Gotta have heavy duty legs to use it to it's full potential.
@@1zymn1 It’s tough since this looks a lot like the sticks even edelkrone sells! But the legs, should be much more spread out. Sandbags can only do so much.
Came over the Instagram Story. First time. But this video is just what I searched.
Been Loving the Rhino Arc 2 For product videos!!! Sliders are a must! Great advise as always 🤙
Agree!
Stoked that you are loving it, its a solid piece of equipment and was super curios on how it stacked up to edelkrone!
lots of jitters and battery problems with my Rhino Arc2. I've only just started getting serious about product videos (Signed up to Austin's course this week and loving it), so I'll be using the Rhino much more. Hoping Rhino can sort the issues and add the extra key frames to their software. Only having the APP available on Apple is a pain too. Great video as always Austin 👍
Very helpful, much appreciate the comparison!
The Edelkrone can be looped by pressing both key poses at once. The belt you used for hand slides on the Edelkrone was the motor belt, you'd need to change it to the nylon belt for manual movement, if you want to slide manually with the motor belt you'd need to pick up the Edelkrone Steady Module which makes a HUGE difference, it works really well with a Manfrotto video head. The Edelkrone is also great for macro, as it may not be as fast and the Rhino but it's a lot, lot, lot slower. The footage gives it away though, I have similar problems when it comes to shake and have to agree that neither slider is perfect. Mind you a touch of stabiliser and even the Edelkrone is as smooth as butter.
Funnily enough I was recently sent the Zeapon slider for testing which is a lot cheaper and I'm blown away at the smoothness of it, they seem to have a pan tilt set coming soon too. I'm also quite impressed with how the Slypod handles smooth movement. Both the Zeapon and Slypod outperform the Rhino and Edelkrone when it comes to macro shots. Fingers crossed for smoother sliders in the future 🔥
Great video. Had seen a fair bit about rhino's UI and ease of setting up shots before, but you really highlighted some pieces that I haven't seen before on the UI and made edle worth considering.
I think the only thing missing was ease of setup/packdown, I know that rhino has that battery driven mount... But I guess for a studio shooter wouldn't be setting up/packing down as much a shooter who travels.
Really great info, thanks for the efforts you put into this.
Of course yeah the ui on edelkrone is head and shoulders above rhino at the time. Yeah I was going to show that but it really doesn’t save any time just a cool feature.
@@AustenPaul thanks - that's interesting insight, and defs puts it less of a defined choice. Thanks, wasnt expecting a reply at all - great vids, thanks for all your time and efforts :D
Thank you for the great review. As with anything it depends on what your "maximum" usage is. You covered many of the different positions and movements one would like to do which is great. I like the Edelkrone and the app once you get used to it, it is really great. Edelkrone for me *Ding!
Every vs slider review & comparison:
Rhino - Smooth and easy to use when working but there’s always the chance you’ll end up with an expensive paperweight, oh and we’ve been waiting 15 years for an additional key frame.
Edelkrone: Blew the budget on software 🦏 could only dream of and schiffer sponsorships, but you will need a degree in mechanical engineering to tune and maintain your kit. Also, don’t plan on eating anything with crumbs with a 10 meter radius of the device, or indeed doing anything remotely messy or creative.
Conclusion? Both parties could do better, especially for the asking price. I don’t mind paying good money, but I expect a good product. 🙄
This is hands down the best comment about the two sliders haha love it and so true
The struggle is real... i have no idea why this competition isn't any stronger. I mean i am willing to invest big money but i keep seeing both these high end stuff suck... wth.
ive been eyeballing with more budget friendly stuff that performs better but there is no tilt... so i am totally lost. i really need the 3 axis and these two came up in the first place for me. but still can't decide. i dont want to feel buyers remorse at this amount of money D:
@@Haverr1 What You have decided? And Your thoughts? Trying to decide now.
Great review! I personally think Rhino Arc 2 is the clear winner. Obviously Edelkrone is smaller to travel with but for everything else and what really matters - useable footage in most situations, the tech and strength in the Rhino makes it worth the extra bulk to carry to ensure the user gets the shot sooner than having to do multiple takes to ensure a really smooth capture.
Thanks Jimmy! We agree :)
@@RhinoCameraGear Really appreciate your reply Rhino! Keep on innovating 🙌🏻
What happens if you use a wide angle lens on the Rhino? If you go straight the rails will be visable?
Solid review dude. You left out one big test though. All your fans want to know… how do they compare in the vertical belt loop handheld drop glide patented by AP? 🔥👍
Question - if I set it up in a studio for a few months where I set the key frames once and have the host always in the same spot will it remember when I turn it off and on? Or will the key frames have to be reset every time
Did this guy really just call that Edelkrone footage steady? Even Stevie Wonder could see how bad that footage looked. I was about to buy their system today but this just converted me to Rhino
Love watching these videos even I don't need one more. I think I'm on my 6th slider now and it's definitely more worth it to get a good quality one early. I had a few that started wiggling at certain travel lengths which created headache during the editing :P
Yes def invest in a solid slider. A good saying goes buy once cry once haha
Great video, one thing I noticed is the weight test is not quite balance since on the Rhino it is including the power supply, maybe add the same battery capacity on the other slider and test.
Great comparison! Well done! Personally, I think the limitation at inclines and full-motion is kind of off-putting given how much these systems costs. Sure the Edelkrone UI is beautiful but if you can only use it for leveled video slides, it's way too much money for that. I do like the Rhino hardware better, i had Edelkrone, and while their design is nice at first, it's extremely limited for heavier gear when you do not want to have a single tripod in the center.
Do the devices work in looping mode when you get a call or the app in in the background?
which camera do you use for your slow motion videos?
Love the video Austen, what tripod did u mount with rhino? And is it smoother with one tripod or 2 both side ? Thanks big fan of yours
I’m using an ifootage tripod I love it!
... great review! edelkrone works a lot better with the new slider and the new slide module. and handheld the edelkrone works much smoother with the steady module.
I really like my Rhino slider and Arc ii when it works. I'm having to send it off for repair again and I haven't even owned it for a year. hopefully they can fix it properly but at the moment I question its reliability and would return it if I had the option.
Sorry for the challenges with your Arc II. We'll make sure to get it all resolved as having satisfied customers is a top priority.
Thanks for the great video but my choice is Ifootage shark slider nano ;)
Great review! Chili points have to be a thing now!
Do the rails of the sliders actually bend under the camera weight towards the end of the rais? I‘m asking because I noticed bend on my cheap Neewer manual slider.
My Edelkrone bends about 4mm when using a 4.5kg camera on v5 slider long and pan pro. Aka it sucks.
Edelkrone customer service say it's within tolerance🤷♂️
I've had an Edelkrone setup for a year now and wish I had bought Rhino instead. It seems to be much more reliable. What really bothers me about Edelkrone is that the slider is prone to breakdown. If it's not balanced perfectly, the motor stops working. I don't think that is acceptable at this price point. Seems more like a toy some time than a semi-professional tool.
Thats why we had the edelkrone for 2 days before switching to a Rhino. Its so much better and dosent breakdown if its not exactly in level. Its also very quiet.
I believe for the angle test, the motor will perform better if you put it at the top of the angle, rather than the bottom.
do you know the syrp system to?
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can you please add CM also next to the inches. thanks.
I think there is something wrong with your Edelkrone Setup, since this shake isnt normal. You should check if the belt has come loose. Also, im a bit weirded out, that you didnt use the one Killer feature that the Edelkrone has over every other product. Positioning by HAND. you grab it, and just point it where you want it to go, no mumbo jumbo with the App or controller, just grab it and push it where it needs to be. Its the thing that made me buy it. Other than that, great comparison, Austin.
We tuned it up before shooting and mine has always had a bit of give and wiggle since I bought it. Yeah I’ve never used that feature I was just testing out things that are important to me. But it is a cool feature.
@@AustenPaul Give it a try next time your using it while creating a Product Commercial. Its fantastic :)
I can only slide one direction by hand when tightened properly to satisfy the app. If I loosen a little to manually slide the app throws up an error. I'm on my 2nd v3. I also have the v1 and v2 versions.
Did you have any Lens Stabilization ON for these tests?
Nope.
I should've bought the rhino a year ago. When purchasing the edelkrone slider and head they don't provide you with the necessary power cables to use the machines? These things are already expensive you would think it'll come with it. Luckily I had existing power cables.
cool stuff
Love your content Austin, but a couple comments on this video.
1. This video made me happy I went with the Rhino about 6 months ago. It confirmed the Edelkrone is pretty bad when it comes to a smooth slide. I wanted the Edelkrone, but after watching Gerald Undone's video where he mentioned how hard it was to set up and balance(?) before shooting, I decided on the Rhino.
2. How are these sliders $2,500 to $3,000? Sliders are the most overpriced specialty piece of gear, especially when they still have major flaws like you've shown. Having said that, I'd happily pay $3,500 for a slider that is silent, has a powerful and fast motor, great app support, easy set up and portability. Why can't any manufacturers figure this out???
3. The Rhino does have a worse app, and the limited keyframes are a bummer, but I mostly use for B-Cam on talking head interviews so I just set to looping slide.
4. The Edelkrone isn't even as smooth as the $350 GVM slider I own. Is everyone stabilizing footage in post when using this???
5. You can buy shorter rails for the Rhino, so portability is actually better than the Edelkrone. Also, I can leave it all hooked up on the rails and store/travel in the included Rhino soft case. I literally just pull it out, put it on the tripods and start shooting after setting keyframes. Can't get much faster than that.
6. You didn't talk much about the high speed vs. high torque motors. I hate that you have to buy 2 motors for this if you want all the shooting options, but they're there if you need them.
7. Like you said, it all depends on what you're shooting. If more than 2 keyframes is needed for product shots etc., then maybe the Edelkrone is your choice, but in every other situation it seems like the Rhino wins.
8. You test the sliders on a wooden table that vibrates and exaggerates/amplifies the sound of the slider. IMO the sound test should be done on a tripod to isolate these vibrations.
9. Lastly, I had to return my main Rhino unit after my initial purchase because it wouldn't charge after a week. This seems to be an issue I've seen online, so maybe the build quality or QC isn't quite as good as the Edel, but I'd still take the Rhino for it's smooth slides and ease of use.
I laugh every time "so hoottt" plays lol
Any Budget option for entry level video creaters ?
We offer ROV Pro and Mobile as solid entry level kits into automated motion rhinocameragear.com/collections/motorized-sliders
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Oh you’re excited about this one? I’m excited also.
I think I’ll add the Rhino to the wish list. It did really look a lot smoother and isn’t that the point of buying a slider in the first point?
Edelkrone let me down on set and the customer support was atrocious. Not only do I no longer use Edelkrone but I actually tell others to not buy their inferior gear.
I use Kessler now.
I have the edelkrone v5 slider V3 slide module and pan pro.
The jitters are terrible! I've spent nearly a year trying to get a stable shot. Customer service is great, very patient and send new units to test. I've made a few videos for them but they are never satisfied and keep asking for more videos. They're great though. The problem is the motor. It jitters! The best motor was the original Action module from 2015. Smooth and fast (3 second vs 17 seconds). But it's loud and doesn't work with the app plus the target module it pairs with wasn't good.
I'm looking for a replacement.
I bought the original Rhino years ago. I'm hesitant to dive back into Rhino.
The zeapon is interesting but slow and only 3speed options from what I can tell.
Post an alternative and ill buy it🙏🙏🙏
no one buys a slider base on UI, yes I agree the UI is important and ease of use is always too, but you buy a motorize slider for sliding..it is clear Rhino won! even though I agree that the Rhino should be able to start at any point. .. I think Edelkrone has a lot of expandability with all their modules so it is still a great slider if you need a slider for those features.
I want to say the Edelkrone... but I think the Rino takes the win for me!
company Rhino is number one for silder i really one day can used Arc 2
Edelkrone is super disappointing in the smoothness category which is the entire point of a slider! Arc II for the win.
$2800 for shaky footage. Cant believe it.
I am eying the Zeapon system. It gets pretty decent reviews and it comes in at the middle price range.
Why on earth is your Edelkrone footage so shaky?
Honestly rhino way more stable & better then edel
15:58, if that is steady, I quit the Earth:)))
Recently, I bought a Edelkrone Slider and it's really useful, I'm very happy with it! It's fun! :)
The edelkrone footage was kinda unuseable.... Rhino looks better and I actually like the app more aswell. I like that the Edelkrone slider moves while working, saves a lot of space, thats the only pepper it's getting from me. I have the Rhino slide with pan head myself, I'm deffinetly upgrading to arc 2
24:50 - when u show the rhino tilting down.. why cut the video?? makes no sense at all.. just speed it up if u cant wait, but me personally would prefer watching how it goes all the way. but whatever im buying the rhino
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I loved my Rhino until it had issues that needed repair and found out that customer service at Rhino sucks more than any other company in existence.
FUCK. cant believe i got the Edelkrone :(
It’s still a great slider I love my edelkrone
If you get to a point where you want to make the switch, we're happy to help out by crediting you $500 for sending in your slider rhinocameragear.com/pages/switch-save
If like me you cant afford either, search 'digital bird camera slider' on youtube.. you're welcome
For that price there are too many cons.
Rhino looked better on every shot.
Both expensive as hell😅
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So really? The Edelkrone is Edelcrap? It's a big deal to have durability, and smoothness.
Can you pronounce Edelkrone more like Adelkronuh 😅, thats how its pronounced
Why are you interrupting the recording at 24:32, 24:42 and 24:46? You have 3 cuts. We don't see the same test pieces that Edelkrone failed to do. It seems that you deliberately hid it from the audience.