How To Dogfight In Jets (Gameplay Tutorial)
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Hey Spit, do you have any fighting tips for the F-2H Banshee? Currently doing the US Navy tree and I can't seem to work the aircraft properly.
Hey Spit, could you make a video on how to defend against the Aim7 because i seeing so many players that just do it wrong because personally i have only died like 2-3 times to the Aim7 just by defending it and bleeding its energy. Greetings from Germany.
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@@AzureanSky It's a wonderful plane if it's spaded. However do to its low top speed you really need to boom n zoom people and dogfight.
How to dogfight at top tier- turn into someone, make 2 circles max, get missiled by 3-4 enemies.
@@fexilsehn6445 rips
Lol feel ya
everyone loves posting these types of comments.. not at ALL saying your wrong.. those who play already know.. but maybe a real tip would help someone 🥱
Yup or get missiled in ur rwr blind spot by the mig23mld 40,000 feet in the air
@@racenhoman-hall6441 basically make passes at enemies and extend, keep speed high
Step one: take a vampire
Step two: forget everything and play like its a biplane
Step three: profit
Step 4: Find out that the enemy knows how to fight in an actual jet and get dunked on by much faster fighters.
Step 5: get rocket sniped by an f89d
@@Kelgo102 in my exprience f89s are the easiest to kill
@@martijn9568 orrrr you could just stick to low alt where you can reach 800 kph pretty easily and wait for them to come downv to you and force a dogfight
Step 1
Abandon Vampire, embrace Venom
Step 2
*S u f f e r*
The most potent weapon in the jet rb is organising the chaos. Lots of missiles,lots of tailers and lots of red dots... Keep your energy high and dont make decisions that might get you tailed by 3 g91's
This ^
@@Spitflyer please play f4c
*cries in R/1 and YS*
@*televisio86 he's gonna have to one day
@@risu6894 YS is very very potent IMO
How to dogfight in a jet with a phantom ah yes phantom users need this aha
u shouldnt be turning in jets in the first place
@@m1a1abrams3 early jets you can like vampire and mig 9 but yeah beyond that not unless you're in a 1v1
The f4e can actually dogfight farely well
@@mynamejeff7894 its a shame that people throw that plane away after bombing I've seen guys do really well defensive flying it
@@mynamejeff7894 as long as the aim7s are off. A fully empty f4E tho turns so tight it's scary
10:15 ah yes the P-47 with missiles
lol
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Thank you again for attempting to shove actual logic inside the brains of Phantom teams. I asked a team one day why they weren't climbing and they said "Climbing isn't necessary for TT because your so fast. I think you're still stuck in Rank 3 bud"
To that, I simply replied "Seems someone's still stuck in Pre-1.85"
They all died within 3 minutes and those of us that climbed clutched the match
I'm on console and yet still have more brain capacity than most pc players lol
Climbing didn't matter in subsonics because the sound barrier destroyed your energy if you tried to harness altitude by diving.
But in supersonics, the sound barrier doesn't exist. Sounds like they were still stuck in a 9.0 mindset.
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lmao speak for urself. i look at the opponents stats during a dogfight idc. as long as i can talk dat tarsh, i git da advantage
This is true big brain plays
Psychological warfare
@@Spitflyer plz play f4c
Yeah it’s good in props. Calling out the 109 on his 0.5kd from 6km helps in the dogfight 🤔
@@kocant1274 why would anyone play that
How to dogfight at top tier as an American player: wait for the F-5C.
To be fair the F-4E can dogfight pretty well too, those slats help a lot.
@Hunter6213 no, if so players like you will get access to it without any knowledge
@@CatsAreAmazing8187 rip XD
I just shot down an F-5 with a Yak-3 today in custom battles
@@CatsAreAmazing8187 feels bad
Honestly spit, seeing you evolve over the years feels nice. From shitposting to this high quality content with depth and genuine connection to the community, I feel like you should give yourself a pat on the back. I can't afford whatever products that sponsor you but I do click on links every now and then and never skip ads.
Anyways, I hope you're doing fine irl and my best wishes for the future
Hey man I really appreciate that
These videos are great thanks! Subscribed just because you are the only youtuber ive seen that explains his thought process while playing. Been flyin planes for almost a year in WT and im alright but nothing special. Hearing what someone is thinking and why in a game is so much more helpful to me than videos of people going "climb to win then use missles"
Thanks man maybe I should do more of these then :)
Right on man, my buddies always go straight in and end up watching me have altitude dogfights.
Whenever an entire team of MiG's see a single phantom: *aye yo this dude got more stocks than us, let's get him*
15:15 *finally some gourmet shit*
15:10 I'm italian and you said "molto bene" really well :D
18:19
not if your name is DEFYN and u 2v10 to win the game
Thanks for this, now i can finally fight those MiG-28s
Go get em god 😂.
15:20 XDDDDD "phly daily couldve gotten 12" HAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAH
I am very glad to see some f-100 in this video. It is one of my favorite planes and I am very close to getting it. See you next time!
The fact you added the ad at the end of the vid is such a gigachad move… respect👊
It’s all done automatically
i just got the mig19, gotta get the sl to buy it tho, once I buy it ima make good use of this vid
if you need SL go play rank 2-3 ground attackers. you make 30k SL on average every game
@@canadianbeef827 kk, i shall try that
You can kinda do whatever you want in the Mig 19 as long as you’re paying attention.
30k to 50k if you play really good
@@SavvDaDon * cries in f100 *
You can tell Spitflyer is happy when he says molto bene. Reminded me of my Italian classes at school (oh so many years ago). Very good video, very informative and fun to watch. Nice tactics table background too.
Yes, in jet games, energy is king. Speed is life, altitude is life insurance. But you know what? Pilot awareness is also very important. Jet games can be over in 6 or 8 minutes, even at 7.7ish BRs. Sometimes, when the fight happens, it happens fast. Sometimes, the first you know you have someone on your 6 is when your wing is blasted off. It is imperative to keep an eye out for threats. Knowing when to flick the tail out with a hard rudder kick, so you go into a tight roll, can save yourself from a volley of gunfire.
You need to know what your plane is capable of, so you don't get in a pickle, and if you do you know how to get out of the pickle. Therefore, you need to know what your enemies' planes can do. With that, you can pull off some cheeky things like vertical turn fighting a Mig-15 in a Sea Meteor F.3 (and I won).
I feel like you posting a video including how to dogfight in a javelin is a jab at my "abilities" in jets after I unlocked that thing at midnight last night. In all seriousness though, thanks!
I feel like I need to add on to your comment about climbing that it's pretty much necessary in most low tier British jets. Meteors need to be able to pick and choose their engagements in the current matchmaking, and the Swift F1 absolutely EXCELS by zoom climbing to 5-6km, picking targets and diving. You get to choose a preferable engagement and if it doesn't work out you have the energy to zoom climb back up to altitude and repeat, both in the meteors and the swift. You can go as fast as 1100kph at the bottom of your dive in a swift f1 and as long as you're careful you won't rip. Do a pass and then zoom climb back up to 5km, rinse repeat. Staying at altitude also massively lowers your fuel consumption, so you can make that 7 minutes of fuel count even if you always sit on 100% throttle. Minimise time at low altitude and maximise time at high altitude where you can pick engagements and where you have time and space to consider your next move.
Step 1: Get the MiG-21bis. Better acceleration, better missiles, better maneuverability. When I fly the F-4E I rarely see enemies at a high enough altitude for the Sparrows. Can't boom and zoom because MiG-21s just snap around and fire off an R-60 that usually ignores flares even if you cut the afterburner, or they start chasing you and out accelerate you.
Sidewinders are way better dude, they ignore a track like a dream
Rule 2 is if u don't have speed/altitude advantage, force the over shoot.
Also, very well done with ad (i love sideskirts)
Thank you Spit! I'm not far off of my Hunter, and have been wanting to learn how to dogfight properly in higher tier, less maneuverable jets, and you've given me some useful info to take with me into 9.0 and above!
Just started getting back into Jets yesterday after 2 years. So to say this is perfectly timed is a understatement lol.
Great video lad!
ive never thought about changing my reticle color in the 10 years ive played this game. the black looks so much easier too see!
I am so dead inside, I watched you VPN ad
It's so rare to find a pro in any game, particularly War Thunder that actually listens to requests for help and aids inexperienced players rather than one who just goes "hAhAhAhAhAhA sKiLl IsSuE!!"
I hope that everyone follows spits advice and starts to dogfight in the phantom 😂😂
24:57- With a little bit of a spray here (376 ammunitions) hahahahahaha
that hunter and the f4c are some of my wt friends and let me tell you it is hilarious to see them both get deleted in a spitflyer video
ty for making it.
I was able to get a kill in ME-262 but not enough for good earning.
really helpful!
My biggest issue with top tier jets is radar just not working and missiles just refusing to lock under any circumstance. I don't know why radar is so buggy but it just is for some reason and makes sparrows nearly impossible to use :(
for the algorithm, great video spit clears up some stuff i was unsure about after getting into warthunder jets about a month ago :)
Another fairly basic thing to master is maneuvering after the over shoot. Let's say u are flying up on somebody that is lower and significantly slower. U close the gap to fast to get a good shot or lock on. Using your speed to your advantage to stay behind them. For instance barrel rolling over the top of them to stay behind them. U will be surprised how many people think two dimensionally in a three dimension world.
never clicked so early in my life your always posting at 12 midnight lol
Well, assuming spitflyer is european it's 1 or 2 pm for him
@@Ciechan-96- He is Australian as far as I know
@@aerocraft3377 oh, he sounded British for me
Two things, like Spit flyer said, u want to target the guy that doesn't know u are there, they are the easiest kills. However, on the flip side u don't want to be that guy! Tunnel vision can be a real problem. Don't overly fixate on any one person. Always keep your head on a swivel!!! The faster the planes the less the reaction time.
Had a nice dogfight yesterday in my MiG21MF against a F4E, was refreshing for once
On the F4E gameplay... you were seal clubbing Mig-19. I'd say even if you don't play your cards right, you'd dominate when the enemy team isn't full of Mig21's carrying R60s :P
I do, and there's plenty of gameplay of it on the channel
@@Spitflyer Oh yes I have seen them. Didn't mean to imply that F4E or you aren't capable in a proper top tier match. Just that, team composition dictates how well you do at top tier more. If you end up with fewer F4Es and EJs then you will have a hard time carrying against Mig21 MFs and bis.
Hey Spit,
I am assuming this message will go under but if you read this:
I have a great Idea to Balance Air RB...
What if you make a cut at the first Supersonic Jets and put them Br 1.0 in a NEW tech tree for only Supersonic Jets and the late ones got to Br 5.0 or whatever and like do that for props aswell. What do you think about this Idea?
Greatings from Germany
BR decompression does the same thing
that "molto bene" amazed me
Btw. your radar shows you if you have a firing solution for the aim-7. When you select them and have a target acuired two lines appear on your radar and the missile wil reach it, as long as it appears between the lines and continues on it's path.
Best moment I've seen in WarThunder ever, I was smoking my first doobie in a while and it hit at around 13:09, I mean I would have wasted 3 missiles and hit a mountain like a complete idiot, I just had to go back and see it again, it's like a beautiful dance in the sky bro.
3x Aircrafts Destroyed, could pull it back just a little, my confidence just ran away with it's tail between the legs..
HAHAHAHAHA Molto Bene; BRAVISSIMO!!!
24:32 am i the only one who noticed the eclipse or is that just another lighting glitch
how to dogfight in jets TL;DR version
1. pick MiG-21bis
2. get ace crew
3. fly low towards the area where F-4's climb (you can easily see them from below but they can't see you)
4. do 6km vertical climb with your infinite energy retention behind them
5. shoot down 6 or them with R-60 before they see you
6. go back to base and wait for the game to end
15:09 as italian, that was perfect "molto bene" xd
Wow, the Tactics table is Gorgeous
Spit: Airbrakes reduce your airspeed
Hunter FGA.9: "I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that"
Really looking forward to more from this series :)
THE MADLAD ACTUALLY DID IT OOP
Glad you got another sponsor, Spit. Hang in there.
Thanks I bought the mig 21 2 days ago and needed it
F4 match you had is like 1 in 1000, what usually happens
A: You dodge a headon, the enemy mig flies away, you see another 2 migs pop up from infront before you even know it a WILD MIG-21BIS has apeared and already launched his 3/4 missles at 3 diffrent planes, usually resulting in 2 kills.
B: you get your kill or 2 and then find out that the 10 migs have killed off your team and are on your 6 spamming missles, in which case best you can do is just slow down and finish the match faster
if you are above mach, above 2km the AIM-9J or R-60 wont catch you. Magics maybe, Aim-9G maybe. But i can say with 100% sure about the 9J and R60. I spaded my Mig-23M and the last thing i pick, was the flares, one because is only 12 and because i always fly as fast as possible close to the ground.
I love spanking top tier jets in my Harrier GR1.
Damn.. calculated aggression got me a restraining order
Wait a minute. once you pointed out "coppen" i just realised that i'd played with/against him a lot lately.
Great vid needed that for my fgr which I assume is exactly the same playstyle as the F4E phantom
that "molto bene" xD
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I’m genuinely poo at Dogfighting but this video definitely helped
I'm honestly so excited to get the Mig-21 MF to spaded so I can absolutely bully phantoms
Haha flares go brr
I love out dogfighting miss in my phantom.
Main thing to know is speed/altitude equals life! Always keep that in mind and you will do well.
Why I suceed in killing so many Phantoms: Most of them fly the Phantom like they'd fly a Sabre. I dont play top tier that much anymore due to hating the boring missile meta. Started back flying the 15bis, 17, and F5 again and I'm loving it and dogging av8 / gr1 fanboys
You're playing against people who bought/groundpounded their way into jets and you're flying superior planes, don't get too excited.
ima need more of this videos
Again once again ur good
Imagine having no aim-7 in an 11.0 phantom. Yeah that's the only German top tier jet right there.
I thought this was gonna be another video on the MiG19
i wonder is it bad to get a top tier premium jet before you get the jets from the regular tree?
Tactics table looks like from Secret weapons over Normandy
So glad that my first jet is the f104a :)
I'm trying out the Meteor F Mk. 8 before the Warbond Shop ends and I have no experience in jets.
For the first missile dodge, was that beaming
we need a video, how to get gun kills in rb for all tiers
One of the best tutorial! Thanks a lot!
Not sure why I'm studying this when the highest br plane I have is a Bf109 K4 😂 great vid though man!
I do the exact same thing as you do with the same loadout
I use my airbrakes a lot when diving in a MiG-15, since I compress very easily beyond 800kph.
Meeting you in game and talking to you was one of the best days of my life
Lol really? I'm just a regular guy...
@@Spitflyer he replied!!!
*faints* 😵
Spit_flyer your videos are so helpful I get nothing like this in any other wt channel
Check out DEFYN, he puts out content like this
I was wondering Spit, is the G.91 YS worth playing anymore?
Yes, it is
How do you turn slowly to where you not blacking out I've got a maxed crew on the f5c and I can't control how much turning I get when flipping 180 degrees
This will come in useful when i get to top tier!.......when...i get to top tier....
This is all good and all, but what about low tier jets, like the J29A
Maybe a second video on planes like that?
Spit, love your Videos but what does a VPN have to do with clicking on wrong links and downloading viruses?
holy shit that start makes me think that the f4c is raiding hanoi
Arrrrr so much to learn! Nice video, enjoyed it!
Cant wait to see you play the F-5
Could you make a video on the F-4C? I find it quite hard.
Can you do a video on the J35 so i can learn how to use it better
Some good tac tics spit could we see more videos like this on lower tier e.g. 8.0?
Tac tic tacs
At that br there are not much missiles, so you only need to watch the enemy radar to see if someone wants to brrrt you. Honestly i think bottom tier and top tier are not so different apart from avionics
My man is getting sponsored left 'n right.
I just got my first jet and it’s the A-4E Early can you do I tutorial on how to best use it
any Dog-Fight Hints for a "F-104" ??