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- In this video JP looks over the Sheeran looper plus. The brand-new ultimate compact, feature packed two track loop pedal from the production team who made Ed Sheeran’s Looper, Chewie and Chewie 2!
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:22 Demo - Boscastle
2:36 On The Table
2:55 History
3:24 Lights
3:35 Pedals
4:09 Dimensions
4:30 Top Overview
7:00 Weight
7:12 Rear Overview
8:16 Feet & Batteries
8:30 Icons
8:44 Menu
9:22 Play Modes
10:49 Ed’s Workflow
11:22 Assign
12:14 Power
12:28 Audio Specs
12:55 Output
13:19 MIDI
13:43 Things I Like
15:00 Improvements
17:29 Competitors
18:06 My Thoughts
20:07 Comments - Hudba
BRILLIANT! Whew - INTENSE review and pace! Terrific piece!
Thanks 🙏 might wanna watch the live stream we did with it. 👍🏻
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Great stuff John. Getting better all the time !
Thanks 👍 Glad you liked it. 👌
Excellent Video Jp, Looking forward to the X Review soon
You and me both! 🤣
Just bought this today. It’s my first looper and I bought it because of the quality & simplicity. Your review is very informative was well timed and really helped me understand it more. Thank you 👍 Look forward to more vids on this. I’ve just subscribed 😊
Glad I could help! - I have made a playlist for the loopers and will be adding all the videos and live streams on there. Watch the 2hr live stream as it will help you with some choices - czcams.com/users/livesezaLZ7tdGQ?si=XrE-muNcNWhcENQG
@@JohnPaulMusicUK haha I literally just commented on that vid. You blew my mind in a good way with that livestream 👍
Best review for this unit. Thanks!
Aww thanks. You might enjoy the live stream I do with it: czcams.com/play/PLO36LpORUSaZyEzT5f0NDmIiJobVYx2NX.html&si=4dsT1ENQa_wXANR8
@@JohnPaulMusicUKappreciate it sir. Also subscribed.
Paul, I love how you utilize the undo/redo for the vocal harmonies.
I just got the Sheeran Looper + and this is my first pedal ever.
Since this is just a two-track looper, I'm really thinking how I will loop the harmonies; then I saw your video.
Amazing demo and review.
Thank you and keep it up! 🤘
Glad to help! - have a look at my course on how to loop - it’s a beginner - intermediate course getting you up and running with looping no matter which pedal.
Put the code LOOPLIKEAPRO in the checkout for $30 off!!
www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/how-to-loop-like-a-pro
appreciate you JP
Thank you so much 🙏
Great video! I would love to see a new output mode in a firmware update where tracks a and b can be routed to the stereo outputs separately. For example track a to out L and track b to out R in multi and sync mode. That way the sound engineer can mix each track individually like percussion on one and loop guitar/vocal in the other.
That would be cool. head over to @sheeranloopers to let them know. 👌
Great job John. One thing I would definitely need for my work flow is auto start (with volume threshold) like the Boss RC's let you do. Hopefully in an update?
Great idea - feed it back to Sheeran loopers! That would be great!
JohnPaul releases a new video; of course i’m going to like it before even watching it.
Awww thank you 🙏
Hope you enjoyed it.
Great review. Another feature that I would like from this pedal is a bigger screen. My eyesight is deteriorating as I age and a larger display would be fantastic. I agree with you that the circular movement should move in time with each bar or an assigned number of bars. Thanks for the review.
More than welcome. Come and watch the live stream we did and hopefully more answers will be there too. 👍🏻
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Great video John, when I first heard about Ed’s fantastic looper’s, I checked them out & watched a few vids, but my thoughts were that Ed & Headrush must bring out an in between model that does everything the + model does & most of what the fantastic flagship does for around £800 that makes it more affordable than the X at around £1300, makes sense I think 🤔
Yeah I wonder if there will be a ‘family’ of loopers? Could Be that this one is the answer to the RC-30 crowd and then another for the more advanced crowd. Genuinely unsure. Would be interesting to see
"Chewie" isn't a standalone looper its actually a pc and a custom pedal board interface. He had to do it because the sound quality of a normal looper wasn't good enough for a large sound system and there were other features that the sound engineers needed
Technically Chewie ii is a midi controller as Ed has 4 on stage all doing the same thing, all talking to software that is at the engineering booth called Mobius. It’s quite an old looper program but was solid but they have leaned on the Headrush hardware for the consumer versions of + and x. 👍🏻
Hey JP another excellent review as usual. You’re the boss! Have you tried midi sync? My experience is disappointing- never get the smooth transition between the loop end and start. I had the similar experience with Headrush looper in the early FW… Keep on sharing your knowledge with us! Ludek
Not yet! Mainly cause I don’t need to for the way I perform but I’ll add it on my ‘to do’ list and report back.
Great review. Still waiting to hear how tight midi sync is as slave.
Looking into this.
Stay tuned.
@@JohnPaulMusicUKthank you!
great video!! have you been able to apply separate effects to your mic and your instrument? i do loops and want to have a nice clean mic'd acoustic looping and then electric guitar over it
For that you would have to have your clean mic’d acoustic plugged into one of the inputs and then the electric guitar plugged into the other. 👍🏻
Good video John
Thanks 🙏
Just ordered one and am going to dig into your class; so excited. Do you think you’ll add anything about this particular looper to your course?
Oooh. That’s interesting.
Maybe so. I think if I was then we would talk about workflow in that video.
Wondering if there are enough people to make a dedicated course on JUST this pedal?
@@JohnPaulMusicUK Count me in although I am a total beginner (don’t know about things like midi, etc.).
@@JohnPaulMusicUK count me in! It's my first looper as well and I need tutorials which uses the Sheeran Looper + instead of other brands.
Great content! I recently bought the Looper + to see if it could function like my Jamsync Pedals when used with my SDRUM. I don't often play with a live drummer, so for years I've set my Jamsync Pedals to start recording a loop on the downbeat of the drum part. However, it seems that the Looper + begins recording on the next clock beat instead of the downbeat, and it also stops on the next clock beat. In contrast, the Jamsync stops at the end of the measure.
This timing mismatch doesn't work for me, and I'm not willing to relearn every song in our set. It's a shame because the pedal has a great design and feels good to use. I appreciate the ability to adjust the input and output to mix with other sounds. I believe I have it set up correctly-it's connected to the SDRUM via a 3.5mm cable, and I've adjusted the settings to receive the MIDI Clock signal.
Do you have any suggestions on how I can get the Looper + to function the way I need it to?
Cool
Thanks 🙏
Thanks!
Thank you so much 🙏
Come and watch the playlist: czcams.com/play/PLO36LpORUSaZyEzT5f0NDmIiJobVYx2NX.html&si=kTbxJA6uitVhssSa
@@JohnPaulMusicUK I will brother, hey, do you ever do one on one Zooms. if so I would like hire you for this. Let me know
I purchased most of your classes. Just wanted some extra help. Im a pro musician here in St. Louis.
I certainly do have a look here: www.johnpaulmusic.co.uk/coaching-options
Hi John, I just wondered if you have any idea why I’m struggling to get a strong signal into the looper from my guitar. I am using LR Baggs pick up and Martin guitar and I’m having to turn everything to max to get where I need to be ( if the manual is to be believed - orange light ) doesn’t seem right to drive everything so hard any ideas ?
I’m guessing your having the same issue as I notice when you were playing at the beginning your levels were low like mine no sign of an orange light. I best get in touch with support, thanks anyway I thought you might have known 👍
Hey 👋 sorry for no reply. I’ve been away on holiday. Yes the signal on mine isn’t massive either. I had to turn up the master volume more and balance the mic and the guitar out. The APX600 I use has a strong signal out, always has but it’s certainly hard to drive on this looper to the manuals spec.
Certainly contact support. 👌
@@JohnPaulMusicUK Hey John I appreciate your response. I wrote to them, wasn't terribly impressed with their response " Try an electric guitar" Well that's not what I want to do. They think my LR Baggs pick up might have a low output, well it works fine with my amp ! Sort it out Headrush !
you are very original in looping and not like a ed wannabe. very creative
Thank you 🙏
Been looping a long time - here you go: czcams.com/play/PLE144D6DEA85E3E72.html&si=_J_FlTJ3kCZ9-wa8
Hi. Can you configure the output to have mono guitar out of one channel and mono vocals out the other?
Hey 👋
No the split is dry signal out of one and looped signal out of the other. That’s certainly one for them to consider in a future update. 👌
Thank you for opening this subject John Paul.
I don’t know what others think are we paying a premium for a name ,time will tell at the moment
I would personally go for a boss RC 500 it’s cheaper as well. Connectivity better an extra pedal button also built like a tank and you can pick them up on the secondhand market even cheaper Boss actually still hold most of the cups when it comes to looper pedals
Boss also do a similar pedal the well liked RC 30, that would probably save you a couple of hundred pounds as for specs iam not sure how they measure up
What do you guys think?
I certainly wouldn’t buy an RC-30 now.. simply cause if the audio quality. It’s 16 bit at 44.1khz - like an mp3! Might be alright for home use but gigging.. no way!
With 32-bit there is no worry of audio decay the more you add on in terms of overdubbing.
There are lots of loopers out there and that’s good cause it means choice.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK Thank you great advice as ever
And a great plus is Sheeran has actually given boss a we’ll needed kick to raise the bar on the hardware looper market
I still have an old Big RC 50 it’s like an old Bentley a lovely bit of kit shame as I agree a tad out of date but the RC 500 on the other hand is well worth considering if you can find one second hand.
John do you possibly have a Sheeran X vs RC-600 video coming down the pike? I'm considering moving on from the Headrush Looperboard but I'm in no rush and I was wondering which way to go. I'm more used to the workflow of the HRLB and I hear that X's work flow is quite different relying on muting tracks rather than them completely stopping and starting up again from the beginning of the loop.
Hey 👋
So it is in the pipeline as soon as I can get hold of one. I did do a HRLB Vs RC-600 video a while back but as you mentioned the workflow is different for the Sheeran X. The two major things that I can see is the muting you mentioned.. and also the way the effects work is very different too. They are tied to the track. So you have to select the track with the effect on and it will work. This is also part of Ed’s workflow which is unique and might not suit everyone.
HOWEVER.. they have mentioned they are working of software / firmware updates with the Sheeran X and maybe that will change.
The RC-600 is Much more flexible when it comes to things like that but then it’s more work. Have a look at the HRLB vs RC-600 video if you haven’t already. But as SOON as I get one.. this is the video I want to make.
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Is there any direct comparison video with this and rc-500? I cannot find such video and I think it could be interesting.
Ooohhhh.. interesting! 🤔
I'm enjoying the superb 'silent' pedals too and the weight and feet, but I don't think it has bypass - unless I'm using it wrong? I don't like the way the master volume now controls the volume of my guitar, like it's a sort of pre amp? Do you know what I mean? Maybe you've found a way of working this but unless I have the looper on in my chain of pedals I don't get a signal. Any thoughts? Great video, thanks! You are right - it is a monster pedal and all the positives are true!
That’s interesting cause most major loopers work in this way where they are the controller of all and not like a traditional guitar pedal where you bypass the looper. Ironically there are a few smaller loopers like the dittos and the cheap ones that have a true bypass.
Best to put the looper at the end of the chain.
You should still get a signal though and it act as a through.. but you just need to keep the main volume up. Hope that makes sense.
Great review. Can i play a Nord Piano into this and loop Piano. Then loop guitar? E.g. are there multiple inputs
Yes. You have one combo input (XLR or Jack) and the. 2 more jacks so could be stereo for the Nord and the ‘mic’ input vis Jack for the guitar. 👍🏻
@@JohnPaulMusicUK thank you very much. Much appreciated... seems a fantastic looper. You are doing a great job selling it. I hope Ed credits you
I just got the Sheeran Looper plus. Great build, super user friendly. Question: I use loopers primarily to create a verse and chorus live (as in song mode). I also own the Bommerang lll and the Boss RC500. With either of those, I have the ability to record a verse on track one, click on track 2 and have it "record ready". With the track one loop ends, track two start to record immediately and seamlessly. In this way, Im able to record verse and chorus one on the fly without stopping...next time around im playing/adlibing over the top. This cant be done with the Sheeran Plus?
I actually have a question about RC-500 (cause sheeran looper has this feature as i see): is it possible to continue dubbing instantly after pressing the play button for the second time? not to "rec", "play" and "rec(dub)" again but to "rec", "rec(dub)" and "play(to stop dubbing)"
Yes. You can change it from REC/PLAY to REC/DUB on the RC-500. 👍🏻 press Memory and go to REC ACTION. It’s there.
Seems very nice. Can it act as a slave for MIDI sync? If your BeatBuddy is the master, will it stay in sync?
Apparently yes. People have done it. Can’t work the other way round though.
Great video, as usual. I actually bought this, even though I have the RC500 because this brings simplicity and redundancy. However, when I started using this, I noticed that after looping some guitar chords, the audio level for soloing was very faint and did not stand out over the track level. I did not see how to change this. Any thoughts? On the RC500 you have separate track levels and this is not a problem.
Also, I could not find out how to sync timing using MIDI from my Beat Buddy. Have you tried syncing this? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Hey and thanks 🙏
Regarding Audio - it’s simply a case of increasing the audio before looping either at the guitar end or at the input dial on the unit.
Regarding Beat Buddy - I don’t own a beat buddy but I will have a look at timing via midi.
Stay tuned.
@JohnPaulMusicUK Thanks, I looked at the manual and was not able to find how to sync clock with an external clock. I think you would love a Beat Buddy! I have a lot of fun with it!
Hey,
It’s been a couple weeks since this comment, how are you finding this looper vs RC500?
@@iamwoods_music The Sheeran Looper Plus is a tank and easy to play and configure, but it is still a diamond in the rough. The RC-500 has way more features. Both pedals need an additional footswitch pedal like the FS-6 or 7 to be useful.
@@lgovantes1 response appreciated!
I currently have an RC500, is there anything about this looper functionality wise that makes it worth swapping over?
Can you control track volume via expression pedal?
No. There is currently no track volume control. I’ve fed this back.
Would you compare the ES Looper + to the Boss RC-30? Why would I move to the +? Thanks!
Audio quality and build quality seem like the obvious ones. RC30's mp3, Sheeran + is 32 bit uncompressed.
Build quality. The audio processing means so much cause as you add layers the 32 bit processing keeps the quality! Plus the different modes.
So I am fairly useless at the little bit of looping I have done on the VE8 looper, which is pretty basic. I use VE8 for guitar effects, reverb, harmonies at open mics and the looper is sort of "better give it a go as it is there", usually ending in a mess despite the rehearsal going ok. Anyway enough of the background. If I was to buy a basic looper to try and get better at this stuff, would the RC500 or the Sheeran be the better bet. I am thinking the Sheeran Looper+ is an easier thing to get going on, but I am reasonably technical so maybe the RC500 is also a possibility. I guess a compare between the two for a looping beginner would be good. I could also get a single button looper , rc5 or similar but that just seems too difficult as there is no way the double tap to stop thing is beginner friendly, the VE8 does that and I had to connect a FS5U configured for "stop" to stand a hope of being confident enough for an open mic display of my looping disasters !
for now, the sheeran looper is easier and those pedals are glorious but has less features than the rc500. maybe that will change with software.
Have a look at this live stream I did a while back about basic looping techniques.
Hope it helps czcams.com/users/livefNDKtPrXDfo?si=C8RbS5V34SWzc90Y
Hello….does this looper allow to “switch” between the tracks ? If not which looper does it ? By switch I mean changing tracks without having to play them ….like when you play the 2nd track the first one must stop automatically
Yes. So you can have song mode with will switch between track A & B, like a verse and a chorus type. 👌
@@JohnPaulMusicUK thank you so much also can we do the same on a boss rc 30?
Hi ... I used to loop with a voicelive 3 extreme .. is a very nice all in one gadget but I'm afraid about is annold device with no updstes so I moved on to a loopy pro system ... It seems there's no limits with this system ... Then the sheeran loopers seems an all in one system as well ... What do you think ? Can you compare ? Pros and cons ? Thx a lot !!
hey 👋
I think it would be unfair to compare something like Loopy Pro to the Sheeran Looper +
maybe comparison to the Looper X. the advantage of Loopy Pro is that you are only limited by the processing power of the iPad and you can use AUV3 plugins. however, you then need more cables, an audio interface, a foot pedal if you need one and it’s not a dedicated machine. these hardware loopers are dedicated to do a few jobs really well. even though I love Loopy HD and Loopy Pro, I default to Hardware loopers for performing as there is technically less to go wrong. It depends on your situation but mainly, most people want something built like a tank for performances. however, go down the Hardware looper route, you are then bound by the limitations and software updates they bring.
hope this makes sense as they are 2 different roads.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK Thx !! then ... a few dubts : can you change presets with footswitch on sheeran x ? .... now I've got a Nektar pacer for loops .... 4 tracks , rec,play, delete, overwrite, undo ... and another footswitch (wich is an interface as well) that I use for changing presets : acoustic guitar , electric guitar, bass , tuner , click on/off ... how could we do that with Sheeran X looper ? .... and there are presets (amps,cab,efects ....) for guitars and vocals incluided ? Thx a lot for your thoughs and infos !!!!
One reviewer commented that there is no way to adjust the output level volume on this looper. This is the one thing stopping me from buying one. Is this information correct? Did you find this an issue?
What do you think about rc 600. I am confused about which one should I buy - looper x or rc 600? Is sheeran looper x better than rc 600?
I haven’t use the X yet. Mainly cause they are out of stock where I am atm. However those pedals are awesome. The RC-600 is my main looper at the moment for quite a few reasons but mainly cause I know it the most.
I have the Headrush Looperboard and I love it cause of its touch screen and ease of use but the Sheeran Looper X works off muting loops and has a different workflow. Also the FX you have to assign to a specific track. That’s cool but atm you can’t assign an fx to an input which would make more sense to me.
The Sheeran looper x is brand new and still has a way to go regarding firmware and updates.
But those pedals are THE BEST I’ve ever used. And the 4x combo ports is great! The routing on the HRLB is amazing and so simple where your not menu diving in and out of different place like the RC-600.
But finally, price. Atm I can get (almost) 3x RC-600’s for just one Looper X. That’s a real bummer but prices can always change
Hope this helps
@@JohnPaulMusicUK sheeran looper x has option to chose pre and postfader in mixer section. Pre is for input effect and post is track effect. I saw a youtube video of a guy using it that way.
Am i right in thinking that it has no separate " output/loop level".
For instance on the Boss VE8 and most loopers you have a separate level to control the level of your recorded loop and your input.
In a live situation i can see that being problematic.
Please confirm
Hey 👋
Yes that is correct.
You can however in the system settings split the output - Select Split to send the loop audio output to the L (Mono) output and the dry audio input to the R output. Therefore sending to a mixer or sound engineer. Hope this helps.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK ..
Thanks.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK ....Do you think by splitting the outputs it will give me enough flexibility to adjust on the fly if something is too high or low.
I'll be going Mic & Acoustic - VE8 -Sheeran Looper-EV 8?.
What about the vocal effects verses the ve 22
There are no vocal effects on this looper.
@@JohnPaulMusicUK thank you so much for letting me know that. I really like the Sharon Loopers, but I am a vocalist, might have to settle for the headrush Loop core.
looks really good. I would have liked to see phantom power on the mic input and I totally agree with your other negatives. That said, I think I'll get one. Thanks for a great review.
Yeah I saw there was no phantom but then realised for the market this is going for, very few people will need it. Glad you liked the video.
Thanks for the thorough video!
Is it possible to plug a different instrument instead of a microphone into the mic input, such as a synth or guitar? I'm a drummer that can't sing (haha), but would like to loop stereo drums through the AB inputs, along side simple melodies. I can't seem to find a looper with multiple inputs that's not $$$ or too complex for my goals. The big pedals are the main attraction for me.
Thanks again!
Hey 👋
So yes it’s a combo jack so there is nothing stopping you plugging whatever you like. 👍🏻
So you have 3 inputs and 2 outputs.
What about vocals
You can plug in an XLR or Jack for vocals with a dedicated volume and input.
Loopy Pro still wins!
Depends what you want. 👌
The price for the large one is ridiculous.. the smaller looks ok but you can get a 2nd hand boss or Vox cheaper.. and what about fx’s? The lil Vox is multi fx and it’s 10 years old?
The looper is the best pedals I’ve ever used!
Sturdy but not so tough you can’t press them. The feet on the box are huge and it doesn’t go anywhere. Great sound. But yes there is a price tag. And no fx on the plus looper.
Also you gotta remember audio quality. Yes I could get a pedal that’s 10 years old for cheaper but it’s 16bit - like mp3 quality! And that has a huge affect on overdubs and overall sound quality when I comes to performing. Just bear that in mind.
At 8:01 isn't it a 3 in, 2 out interface?
No. The 2in is from the computer, so you can have stereo in from the USB and then 2Out stereo. It’s not referring to the physical inputs.
Looper for kids
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I dont think kids could afford this
kids are the future.
@@JohnPaulMusicUKBest answer ever