First day of the season, a focus for the Advanced skier
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- čas přidán 8. 11. 2023
- PSIA National Alpine Team member Josh Fogg takes us through his focus on day number one of his season. Josh is the Director of Training for the Aspen Snowmass Ski and Snowboard School.
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Love this. A conversation with the snow. A negotiation with gravity. A debate with momentum. A symposium with the mountain.
Snow reacts to the pressure/ temperature gradients created by ski snow/ interaction. It gives feedback about it's condition through vibrations you can feel through your feet. Each ski behavior (sliding, slipping, skidding and carving) has a different feel and snow conditions, temperature, density, air and water content/ratios are affected by ski behavior. Under proper condition prepared courses can provide "compaction satisfaction" a rare condition under foot where every thing under you feels alive and magical, super fluidity creates levitation .. It's very exciting.
Josh Fogg was co-training director with Troy Walsh, another PSIA National Team member at Sunday River. I had the good fortune of skiing with them on an almost daily basis for a couple years. Wonderful skier, wonderful coach. I love the simplicity of focusing on the ankles to let the body get into the prime position to listen to what the snow is telling you. Another super video, Deb. And, so nice to see an old friend.
Thanks for the comment
This is great! Josh with Deb and Troy over on the Nordica channel making Pro Series vids. Sunday River legacy.
I like to spend a couple of days alone, or with a friend and just get the feeling back into the body. Just playing. Turning, jumping a little backwards and forwards on a slightly shorter ski.
Just having a good time.
I don't wanna be the ultra fastest technical nerd in the slope. No one is the first couple of days.
Have fun, relax laugh and then just enjoy.
Then after becoming friends with the slope ill bring out the fis skis and everything seems just like last season.
I wish you Deb and all others a one hell of a ride for 23/24.
Have an awesome season yourself. Take care
Day 1: Being patient and kind to myself is paramount. And of course, having fun.
First day each season I start by reviewing the progression of skills from level 1 through 4. Recounting the steps it takes to progress to higher levels of excitation. Reviewing static drills and refining explanations, demonstrations for deeper understanding of the learning process and how to communicate that excitement to others. Beginning skills are the only skills we learn after that mastery comes from refining those same skills. Nothing new. What is new is the greater excitement that comes with each refinement.
I really like that Josh started his season with a very gentle and easy turn, allows his muscle to react slowly to the first run! Great job! Allow your body and technique to return and be smart and safe! ....Im getting so emotional with each ski season..........
My first day often involves hiking a short shallow slope reviewing basic skills waiting for the lifts to open.
On my first day of skiing, I'm an old guy trying not to do anything stupid and get hurt, always make it a successful first day
Thanks, Deb, for the quick pointer on being 'stacked' this morning in the Blake Hotel lobby!
Ha!!! Awesome. Thank you very much🙏😉
It is very clear what a little boot alignment can do to your skiing.
I was lucky enough to train with Josh Fogg and he's filled with so many great ideas and ways to express the movement patterns that you need in any situation. One of my absolute favorite trainers! Deb, thanks so much for including him and your questions are always so spot on!
Awesome!!
Hello there Deb my lovely. Thanks for posting again. As always, following you! I cant wait to have my first day on the snow. I have learnt a lot thanks to you. This will be my 5th season/year and I am 48 y/o and loving it as if I was a kid.
Following your advises as always. I hope your little one is fine and the not so little one as well :)
Big kiss and huge hug!
Dan xx
As always, following you!!
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(We are talking 2025, as I have put all my holis for 2024 already my lovely xx)
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Thank you Dan. Have a wonderful season
Deb, I am a big follower of you. If I ever come to the States during winter for a nice ski time, Id love to have an incredible day skiing with you... Would that be possible my lovely? Big kiss to you all!!
Thanks for the insight Josh. And Deb, thanks for another valuable video.
You bet Gates. Thanks for watching and for the comment. Great seeing you the other day.
Seventy-three years old and looking forward to hitting the slopes again ASAP. The spirit is willing, and I hope the body follows suit!
Ahh Deb, great to see you back, and with so much information for first runs of the year. Lets hope it's a good one for all of us. Thanks !
I appreciated to focus on alignment of the body, recall of flexing the ankles, feeling of the snow under the skis, overall balance. The fundamentals to think about and direct our bodies to dial into...
Like riding a bike. I’ve been turning on snow since I was 5, instructed for over 35 years. My first run is simply picking up from the last run. I breath in the winter air, feel the snow under my skis, smile and let 60 years of training do what it does. Over thinking only removes my smile as my brain runs the show.
As a lifelong athlete who “trains” everyday as a lifestyle, my focus is always on staying in balance and not being taken down by an injury, when my form is in tune I don’t need to focus on it, practice awareness constantly, then don’t think.
Thanks Deb, your instruction style is one of the best I watch out here in CZcams land, enjoy your season, George.
thank you Deb for getting us ready, physically and mentally, for the new season
My pleasure😉
"Ankles work in unison with each other to align body so one can have a good conversation with the snow...listen and give back/give and receive" SIMPLE AND PROFOUND. Thanks!
Nice to see you posting videos again Deb. Let's hope it's another amazing year of great snow.
It’s nice to be back. Here is to an awesome season
‘A conversation with the snow’ so simply recognises how personal an experience skiing is. Love it.
Conversation with the snow is good it leads you to debate with the snow/ gravity and your own inertia.
Josh, Deb, MUCH appreciation! Yes to our conversation with the snow! Yep! Love it!
It's good advice to keep your equipment ready to go. I was sleepy yesterday morning as I left the house for my first day on snow and grabbed the pair that is badly in need of a tune instead of the freshly tuned pair that I'd intended to bring. 😭Still had fun though!
I like his description of communicating with the snow and trusting your body to know the movement pattern. I’m trying to limit the long list of changes I’m trying to make. Just looking ahead is a great way to start the season!
Love it!! Ya, I love the way Josh communicates
The basic skills (gauged pressure manipulation, rotary/ edging) are always the same. How you apply them changes as you gain greater understanding of their function. You create cones of probability through your manipulations of gravitational force vectors ( balance is the wobbly strability provided by Barycentric control, local frame of reference and inertial frame of reference= special relativity) . Within this is the probability you will have fun functionaly understanding nature.
Yay so excited you’re back - your videos are so inspiring, Deb! Made for everyone. Waiting patiently for our (northeast) season to open!
Deb, Before every season, I watch all of your videos as a refresher, but I always think that if I could let go of all the technique and just ski behind you for one run, I could set my muscle memory and all my problems would be solved - skiing, life - everything. Such good work - Thank You!
Nice🙏
A-Basin! My first resort I skied outside my home piste. Will always be #1 in my list.
Absolutely love the active listening analogy
This video made my day Deb!!! Josh is such a thinker and a true beloved ski nerd!!!
My highlights I loved!
4:57 How to you align your body to the forces.
5:10 Receiving pressure from the snow ( Conversation was so good it stopped the lift!)
5:43 Starts at the ankles. Both flexed the same.
6:17 By the time I am pointed down the hill... I am trying to line my body up to when I am going to start to receive pressure from the snow.
7:24 From the ankles being flexed...same as each other creates some angles. Line up knees, pelvis, shoulders.
8:08 "Over twisting, too square, overbending"
And bless those Austrians!
Love it David!!!!! Thanks for the awesome comment
Great video. The wealth of knowledge in this video is insane. Met Josh briefly last season at Nat. Academy. Have not had the pleasure of meeting Deb...yet.
Glad you appreciate the video👍
I love the fact that Deb mentioned safety at the end. Its not sexy and is boring to most, but it keeps you safe, and more importantly keeping the other skiiers safe. If only more content makers especially snowboard coaches would do the same.
Being safe is never boring. It keeps you alive and available to experience greater and greater excitement. Safety makes that possible. If you are safe you don't really need a helmet but.... wear one anyway even if you never need it.
@@MrDogonjon Unfortunately, our safety on the piste can still be compromised when others are being reckless. 😞😞😞
I do too; however, ironically I see during the lift conversion segments that the safety bar is NEVER in use. Where I ski and work, safety restraints are NOT optional. It would be nice to see role models using these things.
Love that you are at A-Basin! You and Josh put some great early season tips to keep in mind. Thanks!
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well done Deb and Josh, thank you
You got it😉
My local ski hill isn't open yet and these videos have scratched that itch to get on the snow! I always have so many thoughts running in my head the first day, trying to figure out what I want to focus on. I think the best way to calm that voice down is to just say "No! We are here to have fun! We can work on technique when it's appropriate." We should always be working on improving but sometimes we have to tell ourselves to stop thinking and just GO! Problems will arise naturally and THEN we can focus on what to improve on! Also I love the "ski strong" helmet sticker! I want one!
Thanks. Out here in New Hampshire, the first snow fell last night. My "home area" Loon has been making snow and now watching you two -- I'm psyched! I dropped out of college in 1968 and went straight to Aspen where I ski bummed and washed Mexican dishes for a few winters. So I don't even have to feel jealous! I'm as excited as I was then. What a sport.
Love it
Man, you guys are both amazing skiers and I really love your advice Deb. So good to see you back out there on the slopes! Looking forward to watching another ski season with you!
Thank you very much. Glad you appreciate the content
Deb is my role model her advice and how she gets kids to relate their ski experience is a special gift.
@@MrDogonjon thank you
Can't believe it's the start of the season already!! Looking forward to your posts!
Wonderful Deb, so happy to have you usher in a new season with good reminders, stoked!
Thank you.
👍👍 you bet 😉
Ski Season and Winter is here when Deb does her first ski upload of the season!
That’s right😉 thanks for the comment🙏
I’m glad I’m watching this before I head out for my first day on the snow. Thanks for the safety reminders, and great video work😍
Have fun out there!!!
New summit series jacket looking super fresh. Love seeing new videos Deb! Hitting Lake Louise in a week and maybe Taos this winter!! Year 2 on skis after 20 years of snowboarding.
I'm so glad you are back, I'm addicted to your videos and have watched your entire channel. I'd love to get lessons with you this season
Look for my skiStrong programming in Taos and Steamboat. I hope to see you
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong I will lookup your programs, I'm an older 52 newer skier 8 years. I've been learning on Big Mountain in Whitefish and have this whole Winter booked with one amazing 74 year old instructor. My goal is to get to mid level advanced by the end of March. Your videos and movements are imprinted in my brain. I've visualized them all Summer so I can't wait to put them into muscle memory. I'd be very interested in doing something extensive with you in April if you have that in your program.
I work with a lot of folks for whom English isn't their first language. In our deeper conversations I have gained a lot of insight here and there from the simplicity with which they are forced to state the hard stuff.
Thanks for all your hard work, the first week of the season was off to a ripping start over here thanks to your e-coaching.
Love it. Thanks
Hi Deb. So glad you are back! Started watching your videos last January when I got back into skiing after 35 years. 57 year old guy here and I am in love with the sport again! Between AZ Snowbowl and Sunrise Park I think we got a solid 20 days of skiing in last season. Bought a season pass this year for Sunrise Park and hope to get a whole lot of use for it this year. Your videos are of so much help! Absolutely love them and your methods and philosophies of teaching the sport. I learn stuff from both your beginner and more advanced videos - consider myself still a green guy hoping to advance to the blues by January. Thanks again for what you are doing - your videos are awesome! Adam in Arizona
Thanks Adam!!!
Woo-hoo! Glad to see you Deb; excited to hear from you this season!
Glad you are glad😉 so am I💪😃
Wow. It is SO comforting and normalizing to see and hear all of this from such expert skiers. This helps me feel so so much better as a "very easy greens" skier, that I'm not alone in the 'monkey brain' thing and the first day of the season experience. ❤
Love it. Have an awesome season
When he started talking about monkey brain.... this little monkey just figured out why I have to listen to music. If I don't have my music on when I'm doing certain activities, skiing, skateboarding, running, balance board, etc, my mind is too loud, and distracts my body from doing its instinctual movements. One bonus of listening to a playlist while I ski is getting a lot of those same feelings in my body when I'm listening to it doing anything else. Headed into day two of the season, my sweet little children (6 and 9) are coming up with me today.
your skiing is really fluid and excellent on day one, no surprise! and josh`s skiing was really great after that first run. commenting on josh`s mention of the austrian philosophy of having a conversation with the snow, while skiing...i was taught that, it starts with the feet.....listen to your foot pressure, ball and heal! that is what a learned in a lesson from a brit ski instructor who was trained in the alps. if you feel a lot of extra pressure on the ball or heal while you are in the parallel phase, then you are not balanced or pressuring the skis correctly
Thanks Deb! It looks like you are healing nicely from the end of last season. I hope to be back on snow again near the end of season after ACL surgery (1 year).
Thanks for the safety advice at the end! Ed Piggly!
Yes back, it feels great. Keep me posted as to how your reentey goes. All the best
Nice smooth turns, easy slopes, skis tuned, be happy with a few runs, as a 79 yr old thats my 1st day goal
Love it
I just got to ski with Josh this week at Pro Jam. Funny enough he talked with us too about the "monkey brain" and the ankles working in unison. Good stuff. I hope to ski with him sometime again.
6:50 “slick spots … but not New England ice” Being in the North East I got a chuckle out of that one. We don’t have ice, we have “polished powder”. We just don’t ski on the blue ice (or try not to).
All in all, a great video to play through one’s mind eye whenever going out on the slopes, not just the first day. Thanks for posting…
Deb you beat me to the snow this winter but my opportunity will arrive soon. Josh has some great insights.
I’m an intermediate-advanced skiier, skiing on-piste black diamonds and off-piste greens and gentle blues. Early season I feel the pressure to go big, I feel like I should be beyond green runs. I love how Deb reminds us that there is nothing wrong with an advanced or expert skier taking a green or a gentle blue. It may not be the adrenaline pump, but if you really like skiing, you make it about your technique, your style, and you change the paradigm from “I can do this” to “I can do this well”
Nice!!!
I'm stoked to go talk to some snow this weekend!!!!!
Love it!!!!!
So happy to see so many lovers here. from little kids to 79 year old, lol. which ski resort are you located?
Добрый день! Deb!Рад вас видеть! Вникаю в науку катания на лыжах. Успехов в этом сезоне!!! С дружеским приветом из г. Владимира!
Thank you. You too. Thank you for the comment.
Go into your first day with calmness and let gravity work with you. The flow comes once you feel the energy of your ski following your inputs. Although there is a 6 month hiatus the thoughts of skiing throughout those months from your previous season do come back to fruition. You should not be overthinking any movements. Let it come back to you. The snow does dictate your input, energy and output. Your skis and boots dictate your outcomes. These 2 pieces of equipment need to be fully aligned with your technique. If not, you will be handicapped no matter how much you try to overcompensate.
Great tips thanks. But the safety bar was up on the chair the whole time! Is that a Colorado thing? In NZ we NEVER leave it up.
I also immediately noticed that they didn’t have the safety bar down. If they didn’t put the bar down in the video, they probably never do.
5:00 i would say "Sometimes a skid is your friend."
Deb, I don’t believe you identified this coach as Josh Fogg? Great tip about flexing ankles in unison; I’ll consider it more doing MA. Wishing you a great ski season. //Marshall
Wow, you are correct. I mentioned him n the video Tile and in the video description but not in the video itself!!!! That’s a Crazy Oversight on my part. First video of the season, clearly I have many bugs to work out. I’ll be making another video with Josh and will get that in for that one. I want everyone to know who Josh is. He is that good💪👍
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong My impression is that you’re at A-Basin and that the oversight must be related to its elevation! I thought to make another comment. I thought it interesting that Josh said he was moving his thinking from analyzing sensations (an internal focus) to using targets (an external focus) and allowing his Body-IQ to solve what movements would be needed. I’m happy to hear a Demo Team member talking in practical terms what we’ve learned from modern learning theory (e.g., The OPTIMAL Theory of Motor Learning). //Marshall
Deb is back!
YES😉
Whoohooo! Deb Strong!
Ya!!! We are back👍💪❤️
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Yeah, back in snow
That’s right!!! Here we go😉
Fantastic video! Quiet the monkey brain. I am so guilty of overthinking early season rather than, as Josh said, putting your body in a position to communicate with the snow (focus on ankle flexion). Stay athletic and dynamic!
Glad you like it. Josh has some great focus points.
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Deb, just curious how come you guys don't put the bar down?
On this particular lift we are very comfortable and we didn’t think of it in this situation and on this day. It’s a very bad habit not putting the bar down.
well you know that the Austrians are the most awesome skiing nation. did you watch the world cup slalom race yesterday? it was all Austrians on the podium, the USA hasnt had a slalom racer who could even qualify for the second run, since the Mahre brothers. except for luke winters, he has been qualifying for the second run, lately
Don’t forget Bode Miller with 12 SL podiums
bode miller, how did i forget! his medal at salt lake city olympics were really a high point for usa alpine skiing. @@DebArmstrongSkiStrong
Uhhh...Mikaela Shiffrin?
Pretty good skier.
From US.
A few WC wins.
@@billtanch8273 I think the comment was referring to the men’s team
@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Thanks, Deb.
So many changes at Taos Ski Valley. I love the area but miss Jean, Dadou, the St Bernard, Jonathan [the Bavarian]. Many of the upgrades are nice but Taos is losing its flavor.
But Alain is still there.
Shifts for sure yet Taos has more flavor than most😉😉 the upgrades are awesome I think. Appreciate your comment