Finesse in skiing, Rotary movements

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  • čas přidán 27. 01. 2024
  • Deb shares her experience with rotary in skiing. A deep dive into rotary movement.
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  • @profpat70
    @profpat70 Před 3 měsíci +20

    As an addicted carver-thanks for showing me another way to ski. And one that I learned, and unlearned years ago. At age 84 I find myself more open to new/old ideas. Thanks Deb

  • @johnwalker2841
    @johnwalker2841 Před 3 měsíci +14

    Over the years, it’s amazing how things have changed. In the middle 1960’s, in order to negotiate a steep line within a narrow corridor. It required an exaggerated up and down motion with hard edge sets( ergo short swing turns) If the run was long, it was exhausting. I’ve learned over the years to be very light on the edges and let the skis do the work. I find (even on very steep hard surfaces) that if I keep my torso square and I rotate my feet to finish the turn, I can manage to maintain a tight corridor with my desired speed control. No exaggerated movements for this old man.

  • @flytimothypaul
    @flytimothypaul Před 3 měsíci +3

    It’s an obsessive quest to groove the perfect turn to a level where it’s so natural the mind can be removed altogether. The best journey ever.

  • @Skier_202
    @Skier_202 Před 3 měsíci +15

    Rotary is such an under appreciated and important skill for advanced skiing. Carving is fun and obviously important for racing, but it is so over-emphasized in the internet skiing world. I'm with Deb in my love for this move. It's really helped me take my skiing (and enjoyment of skiing) to another level!

    • @darrensmith9143
      @darrensmith9143 Před 3 měsíci +2

      There is also no good mogul skiing without rotary.

  • @debbielombard5132
    @debbielombard5132 Před 3 měsíci +14

    "It never ends", I'm so thankful you share your thoughts and feelings skiing!

  • @rafaelalbertotorres8070
    @rafaelalbertotorres8070 Před 3 měsíci +5

    As she masterfully expressed it, "it never ends," which is part of the beauty of skiing.

  • @danielshults5243
    @danielshults5243 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Deb's tip at 4:10 about getting the outside foot behind your hip just a hair is kind of the reciprocal of another cue that has really helped me recently- which is to point the inside knee where you want to go. It kind of results in the same effect: your upper body falls into the new turn, not only laterally but also FORWARD, resulting in a much easier time accessing the tips of the skis to get the turn started off "on the right foot," so to speak. Always interesting how different cues work for different people when it comes to these complex movements.

  • @karencarver7296
    @karencarver7296 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Thank you Deb. You should tele! The idea of having the shovel of the downhill til slightly behind we free-healers call “pedal the bicycle backward” it creates ankle flex without having to forward pressure, thus creating more range of motion in the thighs and hips so no “parking and riding” just flow!

  • @geniejennings8384
    @geniejennings8384 Před 3 měsíci

    Thank you for this video, Deb! I have been instructing for 32 years, now, and am working on developing "dynamic wedge turns." I am finding I am really shortening my inside leg to maintain a wedge: very little, but some, edge on the outside ski. In a wedge configuration, as you do here, I can let my skis move away, just as I work to do in parallel turns. My daughter started coaching this year and was shadowing me with my adult group. I demonstrated it to them and she told me she had never seen me ski so straight down the fall line. This had not been an intention. But, I noticed that my personal skiing had been changed as well! Because the "dwt" required so much leg activity, it transferred over to my parallel skiing without my brain getting involved and in the way. This confirmed my belief that skiing in a wedge shape with good body alignment will lead directly to parallel skiing with no moves learned that have to be unlearned, simply changing pitch and speed.

  • @cosma1945
    @cosma1945 Před 3 měsíci +4

    I've watched many of your videos and they're all great! This one, on the finesse of skiing and expression of your precise body feelings during turns - is extra special. Thanks!

  • @johnpetersen8116
    @johnpetersen8116 Před 3 měsíci +4

    The amount of golden nuggets in this video is astounding! Each time you stopped to relate your internal cues or talk about ski or body performance I had to stop the video and think about how I go about doing those same things. If you listen closely, you can also imagine how you might go about teaching this stuff too....just be sure you really understand it!.....this will become a favorite of mine!

  • @aztecterp
    @aztecterp Před 3 měsíci +3

    This is a great video! I truly love how much you love skiing, and your dedication to excellence despite being an elite skier. If only others would share your passion about learning 🙂

  • @alant779
    @alant779 Před 3 měsíci

    Hi Deb, thanks for showing me the world of skiing.
    I love hearing about your first hand experiences of what you're doing. Those are always what have helped me the most in your videos. This time, I stumbled onto the pulling-the-foot-back thing on my own just trying to bring my downhill hip forward while carving. But once I did it, I felt so stable and effortless, that I decided to try out your exercises again. What you described in the old rotary movement clicked, and it finally felt like I was leading the ski rather than being led by it. Surprisingly, it helped with making smooth transitions during the falling leaf exercise too. Super satisfying.
    I'll have to work on my inside ski next. Leading with the inside hip, driving the knee... I can't wait to experience what you mean by being stacked.

  • @Motio3
    @Motio3 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Thank you for sharing this particular “tortured experience” 😂 as you refer to it around 8:45. And I feel exactly the same about that almost meditative flow feeling that skiing can give. Especially when you slow it down a little. Viva slower skiing! Your authentic openness and generosity in giving the world a glimpse of your inner life is lovely. All the technical is beautiful too. As always. But your ability to create a sense of special connection with the audience is one of a kind. 🥰

    • @Motio3
      @Motio3 Před 3 měsíci +2

      And, um, maybe I got a bit carried away, but after reading the comment where you mentioned the ski you were on, I bought it within the half hour. Just in case Fischer might want to know! 😊
      Normally I agonize for too long (talk about torture!) with the ski research/demoing/scrounging for already sold out inventory. So thanks for helping me “initiate”(and complete!) a dreaded shopping project! I have wanted a ski in this class for a couple years now, so… here goes. (I do already have a Fischer slalom ski, RC4 SC, which I really enjoy, so I’m not just being totally impulsive. The little I read about the Curv GT seems to indicate it’s a very well respected construction and performance, so we’ll see if I can ski up to its standards ) Sometimes a leap of faith kinda move required in skiing, yes? ❤

  • @skimangojazz
    @skimangojazz Před 3 měsíci +5

    One of your most fun videos ever Deb, love it! You never cease to inspire me. Working so much on my carving these days and this is such a great reminder of how the same fundamentals apply to non-carved turns.

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci

      Have fun!

    • @skimangojazz
      @skimangojazz Před 3 měsíci

      Also your square hips comments after the hundreds of posts on that ski forum arguing over your last video made me laugh.

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci

      @@skimangojazz what ski forum?? Did I miss something 🤣🤣🤣

  • @renb1821
    @renb1821 Před měsícem

    Just got my PSIA Level 1 and as a former racer rotary skills are what I really want to work on. As someone who has watched your videos it was cool to hear you say you went through this process as well and I am really excited to start playing with different turn shapes and developing rotary skills. Thanks Deb!!

  • @mihai-cristinelatanasoaei2139
    @mihai-cristinelatanasoaei2139 Před 3 měsíci +3

    New video from Deb = stop what I am doing and start taking notes . thank you for the great content!

  • @gernotzemanek853
    @gernotzemanek853 Před 3 měsíci +5

    Looks like how Franz Klammer skies these days, as noticed on you videos. It's fun to play with different ways to ski.

    • @gernotzemanek853
      @gernotzemanek853 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I also want to add your episode with races of yore it was so much fun to watch them play with you on the snow the Mahar Bros. were a highlight.

  • @nathantoney.1501
    @nathantoney.1501 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I will never stop trying to improve.

  • @austinado16
    @austinado16 Před 2 měsíci

    Along with everything else offered in this video, it's a fantastic window into the mind of a high level, competitive athlete. Magnified a thousand times, because Ms. Armstrong is an Olympic Gold Medalist. The mind just remains "on fire" with all the nuances that connect the body to the skill, and it's a lifetime of, "How can I refine this?" I love every bit of this, and I've been using these training vids to help both my, and my daughter's skiing. We're both former competitive runners, so we share the mindset... always looking to "dial it in." I'm 60 and she's 24.

  • @jamesgarcia9123
    @jamesgarcia9123 Před měsícem

    her stance', and going in and out of turns is the pro way! love it thanks deb! peace

  • @zhenrad
    @zhenrad Před 3 měsíci +4

    Funny, this is exactly what I was working on all day today! I sure would like to get a lesson from you someday

  • @charlieli
    @charlieli Před 3 měsíci +2

    Deb, I love your love on the ski!

  • @LarsEriksson-vp5eb
    @LarsEriksson-vp5eb Před 3 měsíci +3

    Your energy and enthusiasm is so inspiring. Looking forward to what will come next!

  • @AleksanderPena
    @AleksanderPena Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thanks Deb for sharing all of this. I'll try to implement some of them in few weeks. Full of hope to start carving finally 😊

  • @Chicken_nuggets13
    @Chicken_nuggets13 Před 3 měsíci

    Deb! This video is the culmination of what you bring to skiing - thank you. You love skiing. You break down and isolate the pieces. Then you put the puzzle back together in dynamic fashion. Very few people "narrate" the turn like you do. Thanks from Vermont, Todd

  • @andylambert3046
    @andylambert3046 Před měsícem

    Love the enthusiasm -- it inspires me! Very helpful insights here.

  • @shoes123uk8
    @shoes123uk8 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Super content Deb, Thank you for sharing 🙏 ❤

  • @sebastianmichalski5318
    @sebastianmichalski5318 Před 3 měsíci +2

    So much positive energy ❤

  • @arnaldosimisschver523
    @arnaldosimisschver523 Před 3 měsíci +1

    another great video, thanks from Brazil Deb

  • @dianeboross6978
    @dianeboross6978 Před 2 měsíci

    I love doing this, in fact, on the flat running up to the first fall line is a great way to get in touch with this technique. I am trying to get to a point where it's my default and don't have to think about it anymore.

  • @Studio42Brooklyn
    @Studio42Brooklyn Před 2 měsíci

    I just love this video. Exactly how I feel when I ski.

  • @josephgdraper
    @josephgdraper Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks Deb for adding more to the conversation on squaring the hips! In your most recent videos you mentioned how you have been experimenting with squaring your hips. The realtime trial and error exploration in this video is awesome!
    Heuristics (trial and error experimentation) is a valuable part of the scientific method. I’m a retired engineer and the ski school I teach with has several full time engineers who teach skiing part time.

  • @szuber42
    @szuber42 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I had a great instructor once tell me on the chair if alone move both skis with ankles at the same time with toes up and pressure on the shin then try it on the snow and wow.

  • @realityczar5739
    @realityczar5739 Před 3 měsíci +3

    You inspire me! God bless

  • @bachibouzouk28
    @bachibouzouk28 Před 3 měsíci

    Du Québec, j’adore vos conseils, you are a great motivator🤩

  • @kevinwu693
    @kevinwu693 Před 3 měsíci

    The way I understand hip direction is that it should be squared to the direction of travel, which at moments matches the direction of the ski tips. But rotary of legs changes the direction of the ski tips faster than the change of direction of travel in a skidded short turn, and that makes many people confused about trying to countering their hip against their ski and direction of travel

  • @death2pc
    @death2pc Před 3 měsíci +1

    Your "Falling Leaf" discipline is exceptional and has application here, too..........

  • @user-dt4tx9sw7o
    @user-dt4tx9sw7o Před 3 měsíci +1

    Deb..you should telemark you would be awesome at it thanks for all the cool tips they have helped my progression in the tele turn, your awesome!

  • @nosliwm
    @nosliwm Před 3 měsíci +2

    You're on a square hips tear recently! :) I'm working on it myself now.... thanks!

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I know! I am. Ha!!! And even more to come. It’s fun diving into it. I have actually been thinking about it and skiing it for years now, only now going public with it and getting into teaching it

  • @funkentratzer9744
    @funkentratzer9744 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Awesome tips! I love hearing you describe various sensations as you ski - it gives me a target. Does the difference between pivoting and stroking in a turn come down to hip socket rotation in a pivot versus knee rotation in stroking? That difference is likely above my current ability level, but I hadn’t thought of it before you pointed it out. Cheers!

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci +5

      A pivot as I understand it is a direction change on a dime, stroking to use my favorite term is shaping over some time and distance

  • @joshcourt6744
    @joshcourt6744 Před 3 měsíci

    Gosh those turns look good!
    Had a lightbulb moment about a week ago, where I realized my foot to foot pressure was feeling more like a toggle switch and less like a dimmer. Bringing it back to a smooth transition felt so good!
    After that I realized I could focus on all the parameters (edge angle, steering, fore/aft) and they could all be more smooth and intentional.
    Finesse is key for sure!

  • @tamcaj
    @tamcaj Před 3 měsíci

    Ce qu’elle est inspirante !

  • @drl1046
    @drl1046 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @christophersharp1828
    @christophersharp1828 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Deb I’ll be in Taos late February. Will you still be there? Your videos are so good!

  • @flamingvipir
    @flamingvipir Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lots of comments about the technical side of this video, but what really spoke to me was the absolute focus, even wonder, when you bring attention to the individual muscle and joint sensations while linking your body (internal) to your skis, to the snow (external). As someone who has done martial arts and is now getting into skiing, I think the reason both sports speak to me personally is not because of the external challenges - in skiing, the terrain, snow conditions, obstacles; in martial arts, the mat, the pads, the people trying to kick you 😂 - but rather the real challenge, which is mastery of your own body. Always excited to find parallels in new activities to balance introspection with extrospection (if that's even a word lol)

  • @Skedawg88
    @Skedawg88 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks! I always look forward to a new video from you Deb, and this is a good one! But then they all are. Question; have you heard the word scarving? Yes, I know it’s not a real ski term.

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Not sure I have. Thanks for supporting the channel!!

    • @Skedawg88
      @Skedawg88 Před 3 měsíci

      @@DebArmstrongSkiStrong It means steering blended with carving. PSIA Centerline had carving on one side of centerline and rotary on the other. The two can come together. Not sure where I first heard the term. Not trying to be a know it all, just asking. ( Steering plus carving. ) You’re welcome.

    • @margaretreid6570
      @margaretreid6570 Před 3 měsíci

      Great video once more 😍

  • @rebenasrekoms
    @rebenasrekoms Před 3 měsíci

    It looks like you’re floating on top of run - amazing

  • @jspark6351
    @jspark6351 Před 2 měsíci

    감사합니다.

  • @micklogg5377
    @micklogg5377 Před 3 měsíci

    Love vids

  • @user-fx7qp3ng1m
    @user-fx7qp3ng1m Před 3 měsíci +2

    Considering the smaller edge angle, are these turns good as a drill to do on the slopes in order to practice for off-piste skiing?

  • @sabinebillon977
    @sabinebillon977 Před 3 měsíci

    J’adore too👌

  • @Richard_HUN
    @Richard_HUN Před 3 měsíci +1

    In these kinds of rotary turns, does the back of the ski slip, or is it carving the whole way through? Sounds insanely difficult with carv only

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci +1

      The tail is displaced slightly from where the tip of the ski passed through the turn

  • @robinmay8450
    @robinmay8450 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love "cycling" through focuses.....keep those learning loops closed.....input to output and back again...

  • @arnaldosimisschver523
    @arnaldosimisschver523 Před 3 měsíci

    Valeu!

  • @tilbie64
    @tilbie64 Před 3 měsíci

    May I please ask what you feel/think of these skis vs yellow SC PRO pair? Thanks, Deb.

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci +1

      For teaching and bumps these skis are very versatile for me. The others I love carving on the groomers, my power ski😉

    • @tilbie64
      @tilbie64 Před 3 měsíci

      Thank you so much. That is pretty much what I guessed. I am on a pair of Atomic slalom skis pretty much every day. I am very interested in the yellow pair. We are waiting for some new snow here in Aspen. Have a great day, Deb! ​@DebArmstrongSkiStrong

  • @JeffreySimon0506
    @JeffreySimon0506 Před 3 měsíci

    Turning from the hips, while keeping them squared? As opposed to tipping from the ankles?

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci +1

      I don’t know what to say. I can not teach by text. Watch the video a few more times. I think it speaks for itself. Also watch a few more of my hips videos😉

  • @brianferris1
    @brianferris1 Před 3 měsíci +2

    What does Deb do when there is no snow on the mountains?

  • @scarface548
    @scarface548 Před 3 měsíci +2

    You inspire me everyday to live a life of passion.

  • @puregsr
    @puregsr Před 3 měsíci +1

    What is the radius on those skis?

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci +3

      15 M. This ski is the CURV GT in a 168.
      123-76-107

    • @kevinwu693
      @kevinwu693 Před 3 měsíci

      @@DebArmstrongSkiStrong What is your take on a similar ski that is roughly 10cm longer than this one, which is about the same height of the skier (me). I had a little trouble getting in to a longer ski initially because I used to ski only 165

    • @puregsr
      @puregsr Před 3 měsíci

      @@kevinwu693if you're doing true parallel skiing, I don't think length matters much. Deb is used to skiing skis taller than she is since she skis fast and needs the stability. My take is when you need longer skis, you'll just know it.

  • @artfunamori4442
    @artfunamori4442 Před 3 měsíci +2

    I think about all kinds of things while I’m skiing… you’re only making it worse! 😂 The Cooper Puckett hip thing is gonna haunt me all season!

  • @puregsr
    @puregsr Před 3 měsíci

    So even while doing such short turns, you're still trying to keep your hips squared, turning side to side?

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci

      In these short turns I was focusing on my square hips

    • @puregsr
      @puregsr Před 3 měsíci

      @@DebArmstrongSkiStrong I guess squared hips doesn't mean your chest must also face the direction of travel at all times, like at the end of the turn, right?

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci

      @@puregsr hips and chest are different areas of the body that can operate seperately

  • @gogglebro9421
    @gogglebro9421 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Deb, watching you ski, it looks to me like the stroking motion comes from rotating your hips. Is that what it feels like to you? //Marshall

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci +2

      I get lots of stroking from my hips as my hips remain square to my direction of travel, my hips keep up with my skis. I also stroke the skis through the turn through ankle and lower leg work

    • @gogglebro9421
      @gogglebro9421 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks for the clarification! I have a follow up question. Are you trying to ski with anticipation too while keeping the hip square (traveling in the direction of your skis)?

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@gogglebro9421 ya, sure. The upper torso is independent of the hips for leveling, counter, anticipation with vision

    • @gogglebro9421
      @gogglebro9421 Před 3 měsíci +1

      FYI - I’ve followed Chase Seymour’s advice (from one of your past videos) about flexing the “outside” ankle at turn initiation or maybe better to say flexing the ankle at the top of the turn. I mention this because I found that this movement put my outside foot, where it belongs, behind my hip. For me, Chase’s tip was the missing piece to making more dynamic parallel turns.

  • @albertmaziarz6739
    @albertmaziarz6739 Před 3 měsíci

    her 10 years back not today

  • @chiubacca82
    @chiubacca82 Před 3 měsíci

    It's hard on cordoray, maybe easier on 1" fluff.

  • @trouts4444
    @trouts4444 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm completely lost on this one. Phrases, words, movements in a jumble. ??? It seems like she is saying skis flat with slight edge and somehow rotate the skis, maybe with the thigh?
    Pinkie toe edging uphill ski when and where exactly in prep for becoming the now outside ski. ?? ? ? I love Debs video but this one after 4 looks is not clicking for me. ?

    • @DebArmstrongSkiStrong
      @DebArmstrongSkiStrong  Před 3 měsíci +1

      The rotary skill, making a turn shape smaller than what is built into the ski design takes shaping the turn from the skill of some form of rotary action. I have other videos on rotary as well

    • @trouts4444
      @trouts4444 Před 3 měsíci

      @@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Thank you Deb I'll search for them. Ski language is a big problem for many and certainly me. I have never understood rotary after many years and oodles of video from better people making CZcams videos. I assume you boy is well off pizza and french fries and carving gates. 🙂

  • @mrredithhall7115
    @mrredithhall7115 Před 3 měsíci

    👏 thanks for sharing FUN-ATHLETIC Rotary Based 🎿👏 👏 👏

  • @skimangojazz
    @skimangojazz Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @ZoeAnnSmith777
    @ZoeAnnSmith777 Před měsícem

    Thanks!

  • @mark55223
    @mark55223 Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @rebenasrekoms
    @rebenasrekoms Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks!