"We're all hoping for an Apocalypse!" Marvel Legends Retro Apocalypse Review
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
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“I am the rocks along the enteral shore, crash against me and be broken!” My all time greatest Apocalypse quote . Just some of the most gangsta shit to say to an enemy 😂
Hahaha "not for kids at $40" that part!!! Can't wait for mine to come. I always wanted this figure from the show. Hopefully they'll give us the 3 other horsemen to go along with ArcAngel.
I think it's amazing. It looks like the cartoon and a modernized version of the 90's toy
Me and Dave are on the same page about the lack of paint details on retros. He’s too expensive to not add some detailing. This kinda thing, combined with the lack of window, is why 23 is my last year actively collecting Marvel Legends. They’re pissin on my leg and telling me it’s raining 🌧
I remember this character when I was a kid which is X-Men the animated series
Me too, he was my favorite, I played as him on the Playground, he was who I selected myself to be!
So cool he was my second fav villain growing up
Agreed there was just something so bad ass about him
Who's rhe first
@@Gundam_JAY it’s the JuGgErNaUt ( imange the xmen 3 voice)
@@Br1cked420 haha nice 😄
@@Br1cked420 cool pick…. Why’s he your favorite?
The paint and sculpt is clearly there for the MS, but it’s hard to ignore the fact that only the ML has the bulk to fit into a 90’s X-Men display.
Marvel Select big figures are quite massive. The Select Apocalypse is 8.5” tall, the Marvel Legends Apocalypse buck is just over 8” tall.
It’s not quite the ML Anniversary Hulk versus DST Immortal Hulk disparity, but the DST Apocalypse- based on the released measurements- will be noticeably larger than the ML.
I don’t think you’ve seen the Selects one. That thing is massive
The sculpt isn't there for ms, he looks like he's constipated
I like it. I understand what he's saying about this figure, price, wash, etc. But to me it looks better than the select. The select headsculpt is not the way apocalypse looks in my minds eye and to me that's worse than anything that was pointed out with this figure. As for price, I'll just wait for it to go on sale.
Hopefully he’ll be in the reduced section soon!
Thanks for the review David. I truly appreciate your effort. Although not comparable, I believe my money is best spent on the MS version when it comes out. From the digital rendering it looks like there is more value for my money for the Select. Now that I brought up digital rendering, I am curious to know if you think that because MS is in the big bubble cards, they have to be more accurate (a lesson they recently learned in the closed moth Beta) then ML? To be completely sincere, I really wished the Haslab would have been the Big A this year.
I wonder how the head sculpt for this one will look on the Select figure.
I’ll try with the AOA Apocalypse. I’m guessing it might be too small.
I’m excited for the figure because it’ll go well with the theme I’m building I’m really tempted to keep it carded as a display piece. I agree what you say about a wash just to bring those details out
I like the jab towards shartimusprime...
Given the animated colors, but the retro packaging, I have a hypothesis. This was meant to be a VHS release, but when sales of that line didn't quite hit like retro packaging releases are, they nixed the cel shading and put him on a card. Would go a long way towards explaining why there's so much less paint and detail on the body, plus the TV show colors vs the OG figure's blue. The Beast release is weird too. Makes me think that the VHS line isn't long for this world.
that's because it's garbage repaints. I've bought three of the vhs figures so far... I'm done.
@@CyborgSodaCollects Storm and Jubilee are the best from that so far
@@Tarriq Storm is trash. Her head weighs more than her body and her gummy legs make her very hard to keep standing. She should've been pin less. Her hair needed to be hollow for balancing.
Wait... those blast effects are from the recent Transformers trilogy (Siege, Earth Rise, and Kingdom). I wonder if the canon was repurposed from that line to this?
So I just grabbed this figure about 3 weeks ago as I am new to the hobby. I agree he is a blend of comic book/real face and animated (in the body). I like the combination as he can be used for either or in somebody's set.
Eh good review but I actually prefer the color scheme on this rather than the MS. This one goes with the Animated Series better imo. As a general apocalypse the MS is good but fitting with the Animated series not so good.
I think the plain plastic looks fine, apocalypse only had the two colours on his body. The major flaw with this figure is the little rectangular shape of skin on the top of his head on one of my heads it sits too high and exposes a strip of blue plastic. Fortunately my screaming head doesn't have this issue but look out for it if you get one
Hmmm I see what you mean
Here, 20 months later to say this was on sale at BBTS for $26 so I grabbed one because I sold the last BAF and the Select is basically a statue and 97' hype.
If it continues to be true, there is nothing wrong with continuing to point out that the value isn't there.
I'm actually surprised they didn't go even lower effort on this figure since they know how many people want it.
Yes, David should always speak the truth and not deny what he sees right before him, cheap, low effort, insults to loyal fans and customers, adult collectors.
I'm actually fine with the paint because it does represent the early version in the animated series. However, the figure absolutely needed new hands to have the bars on them then. I would have taken those over the new gun, but both should have happened for the money.
Yeah, again it’s corners cut
I gotta say. Everyone complaining about the lack of shading are pretty aware that it’s not apart of the VHS line. Get him while you can because, he’s not gonna be peg warming
VHS or Comic, either version should have far more shading on the body.
Great review 😅 even though I have this figure basically two of them the aoa and the baf but I like this one aswell 😅. I will be getting the select version but the headsculpt seems a bit dull to me can’t wait to get in hand. ❤
Im loving this apocalips, maybe ya more paint details but it is right out the animated cartoon wich i love! The new xmen waves are soooo awsome!
"He could smell himself" the look on Apocalypse's face 😆😂🤣
I’m gonna base my decision on what apocalypse to get depending on your select review.
Don’t let me down Dave!
I'm on it!
Yeah he's an okay release, definitely a "get him at a discount" kind of figure. I feel like the problem with the paint job or lack thereof is that when there is paint they don't go all the way and we end up with the cel shaded X-Men figures that look awful tbh. And then when we just get molded plastic with little paint, even that is a bit scuffed and people complain that there isn't enough paint to justify the price. Now I raise this question, if they did put more paint on this guy and it was ugly, would that justify the price even if it looks bad?
Gonna have to pass on this one. The colors don't really do much for me, already have the Hasbro BAF, and I'm probably going to get the Select.
Retro Apocalypse looks really good. I'm looking forward to my preorder from BBTS.
He's definitely bold!
I have to say I think this is the best Apocalypse Hasbro has done so far!! I absolutely love this guy! Though I think you’re right about the paint! I think that about all Marvel legends these days! They still don’t touch the way Toybiz used to paint their figs!
Do the heads and arm cannon fit the Hasbro BAF
Not crazy about the animated colors, but I’ll definitely be hunting that weapon attachment. If the portraits are different I’ll definitely scoop those up as well.
Whole hog*
Yeah the gun is cool
But my Neca figures are still all cracked and broken
Sorry mom the mob has spoken
I can't wait for the Marvel Select version!
The part that bothers me the most is the blue hinge in the knees. I just shows cheapness and zero effort. All they had to do was cast the hinge in the purple plastic and paint the knee hinge to match the blue. This is not a cheap figure either. The lack of paint is astounding and not painted well either. Nail on the head Dave, it looks cheap. Hasbro raised the price of all their figures, but still makes them based on an old budget. Its seems to be profit over quality every time now. Thank goodness Marvel Select is making their version of Apocalypse.
Yeah there are so many simple areas that could have been improved upon
Funny thing. When I first found him in store he was priced at £25, so I grabbed him. At the checkout the guy couldn't decide if it was £25 or £45 but after a minute he let me go with £25. Next day the price changed to £45. Oh well 😁
Bargain!
Very fun video!
Thanks Brother! I don’t often make reviews but when I do they’re always fun.
This is my go to for the BEST and HONEST reviews of these Legends.
Appreciate you Dave 👍 helping us save our $$ on mediocre repaints from Ha$bro. Cheers DMB 🍻😏
"How cheap can we make it?" Honest to god Dave that seems to be the misison statement over at the Marvel Legends team office. Higher price, lower quality and effort but full of excuses and justifications. If theyre gonna skimp on paint then at lease throw in plenty of accessories. Like the funky Claw accessory that came with Achangel.
Yep!
You got a whole cannon hand with blast effects and an extra head, that hasn't come with any other figure, what are you talking about!? I swear you people just want to complain.
@@tyestancil2783 WOW an entire new gun accessory?? No way, glad that for $40 I get 1 entirely new accessory. This is exactly what I mean by lowered effort. Folks like you justify these things. How is is that AoA Apocalypse came with similar amount of stuff for a whole $10 less? Like do you hear yourself? Dont tell me that oh its a retro release so its pricier cause thats just sad.
@@Jakehatred666 Maybe you forgot, but this is a retooled BAF that goes for way more than $40, and you get new parts. You literally mention the claw arm with Archangel (that you could also use with this fig also)Also you get a new extra head.40 is a steal compared to what the BAF goes for. Ungrateful.
@@tyestancil2783 yeah the AoA Apocalypse was also a retool of the baf figure and that was say it with me now, $30 which was a perfect sweet spot. Asking for $40 and having the only paint relegated to just the 2 heads while the rest of the figure is just plain base plastic is a joke. Im not gonna show any gratitude to a company (the marvel team specifically) that continues to lower their own standards and set this precedent that WE the consumer should take what we can get. Meanwhile Gi Joe, Star Wars, Transformers and Power Rangers (all hasbro properties) are all getting so much love and attention and easily worth the price increase. Make it make sense. Cause at this point its just the fan base at large lying to themselves that the way Marvel Legends is operating is ok.
It’s the batman of zur en argh, Dave. Not the batman of zen ur argh
40 bucks for what once was a BAF, I don't mind. I'm glad there is no cell shading. I pass on all of those figures. I don't care for the lack of washes.
Hey if he's all good for you that's awesome! :)
@@DisplayingModelBehaviour I stopped buying complete waves just to get the BAF. I just wait a couple of years for Hasbro to release the completed figure for much less and better paint apps than BAF. $40 is much better than $120+.
I'm glad it doesn't have the dumb cell shading. I've had enough of those.
Yeah we're done!
I have to disagree. But, then again, I enjoy the bright colored, plasticky look. It takes me back to when I was a kid.
Something for everyone!
Thank God it's not cell shaded.
Lol could be worse! :)
Great review Dan I didn't know this was a preorder until I looked at the upload date of your video. I've been wanting too beef up my villains collection and thought about several characters like Rhino, Scorpion and others but I'm liking Apocalypse a lot so much that he's going to be my next villain thanks to your review.
I’m looking forward to scorpion.
personally i cancelled my preorder for this when marvel select showed their apocalypse. it looks more impressive to me especially for 30$
I hope we get this exact figure again but in blue/dark blue and with shading to represent the classic comic appearance. It's basically just how he looked in early comic appearances, but purple.
Welcome to Hasbro they repaint everything :)
👍👍👍
Which Hulk is that?
He's also in X-Men vs street fighter game
100% agree with your criticisms. I was on the fence and had pre-ordered it because I don't have the BAF version. The day I secured my pre-order for the Select Apocalypse I cancelled this pre-order. And after your review and one other, I am fully satisfied with that decision. It's got one leg in Retro/Legends and one leg in VHS Cell Shaded. And it just doesn't work for me. The lack of paint details from the neck down is just lazy and makes it look like cheap plastic. And these ain't cheap! Happy for those that like him and want him for their collection, but it's a pass for me. Honest reviews like this really help people like me decide what's worth the $$$ in my collection.
I’ve been looking forward to this video! Pre ordered mine purely for the nostalgia 😅
It'll be interesting to see how the articulation is on the select.
What figure is that at14:56
I state what it is
@@DisplayingModelBehaviour I can't understand what you say so I ask. All I heard was ant
Anthrax?
I don't mind the paint so much I think it looks fine. If anything, more accessories would help with the price and butterfly joints.
Lol was that an overwatch reference lol
My favorite character
I'll wait for the select version
I highly recommend that people mainly stop trusting that "Hasbro will make better things later", because they have been making worse things and worse versions in so many cases now. This idea about selling things preemptively and then not being able to get them again seems to have a dangerous track record.
Hasbro also messed up the old Star Wars tiny 3.75 or 4 inch inch figures originally, some of which looked really nice, then Hasbro really took over and started cheaping out again, making tiny looking trash figures which led me to quit long ago, then they came back with some cool stuff, then went crap, and now seem to be doing it again!
So now I wonder if we will get the VHS cel shaded version and packaging which will be a repaint of this or is this what we're getting now?
The age of apocalypse is my favorite. But this is badass😛👍
Hey David I’m torn……which is the better between Juggernaut Wave Brown Wolvie or retro Brown Wolverine?
Honestly dude I’m not even sure what the difference is. If any!
@@DisplayingModelBehaviour hahha fair lol the retro is just lighter in color, and something with the arms changed. I’m torn! Hahaha I guess the cheaper is better in this scenario!
$10 more than the Select and the Select looks superior imo. That's the one to put on the shelf.
I like the select colors & paint better, but the articulation & head sculpts on the ML are superior to me.
@@cdubbart MS has really improved in articulation from their Hulk to their Titanium Man and now I have great hope this one will move great too. Legends isn't always amazing articulation, figures such as Thanos or Rhino are pretty immobile so I'm not sure that this would really make a difference to pick over. The paint, sculpt, size and price alone should really carry the Marvel Select.
@@ingloriousmax the face on the select ruins it. Just can't get past that strange face.
@@jonathandevereaux298 But the cheap looking plastic for this Legends Apocalypse doesn't? 0 paint that will be $40, thanks.
Yeeeah, this is the main reason why I decided to go with that select Apocalypse as well as this one. The color scheme is spot on, but… the colors are too bright for me. They need a bit of a wash & some desaturation. Even in the cartoon, there are a lot of scenes where he’s seen at night or the colors are desaturated or grayed down. Even the colors being darker & not as vibrant would make this a more versatile Apocalypse for any display.
Yeah classic 80's colours
the MS version looks worse to me, but then again I like the comic colors, hopefully they show what it's accessories soon
According to Marvelousnews pics, Select version comes with a drill, claw, and ball/spike accessory for the hands/arms. Look pretty sweet to me.
@@Synapse928 many times I look at MS and don't like it's style compared to ML, apoc has this. Plus the articulation. Accessories sound good tho and the comic colors, so I may go for it instead.
Yeah I agree. I'm partial to the comic/animated series colors more.
Cool toy
Hasbro getting cocky here, I almost had enough
And i agree on all the points you stated
That’s i think all people in mind right now
If this continues, NECA, MCF, SUPER7 will strive take the high spot
Dude, not defending Hasbro but Super7 has the worst value in the toy game lol. Great figures but horrendously overpriced. They should be embarrassed about chafing those prices for figures like Sorcerer Mickey
@@juansanchez209 not all like that ,
even though that’s still debatable and definitely your opinion,
In one case they still provide many alt heads, hands and weapons
Full boar, I believe you mean ;)
I feel like they should have saved that apocalypse for the animated series with the shell shading it would have been a cool looking VCR box or what would have made it better if they would have extending legs to make them taller like that apocalypse from the 1990 toy wave
The cel shading on the cartoon figures looks awful. Hopefully Hasbro will one day re-release all of the '92 X-Men with better paint apps and some of their other flaws corrected, like the double elbow joints Mystique was supposed to have (as seen on the prototype).
Wow how’s you get this figure so early?
The UK got lucky!
Why is his head a different blue to his shoulders? Just using the BAF head paint?
Phenomenal review Dave I love it big fan!
Thanks brother!
That apocalypse haslab is looking pretty good right now after they revealed that $350 Hess truck 😂.
Is it just the lighting or is the purple shiny plastic while the blue is more matte? That's the opposite of the way that it should be. This guy is going to need some painting anyway, so doing a top coat won't be a huge deal, but it also wouldn't have been for Hasbro to just do it correctly in the first place.
The Toy Biz baf and the legends baf are my definitive Apocalypses. I’m even considering selling the AOA Apocalypse
Yeah AOA is not too pleasing, I just got it to save money and have an apocalypse but at the end of the day, that isn't even the Apocalypse I'd want, and neither is this really.
I really don’t know if Legends are worth it anymore. Just like the Knull/Venom pack. Figures are ok but no way worth the price. But hey that’s fine just have to pick and choose.
Kinda disappointing. I did say that I would probably get him for that cartoon look in the display, but damn does the Select looks a bit better. Honestly. But I really like the arm gun. It's difficult, I'm still thinking and deciding.
I'm getting 2 Select 1 Of this because I only have the AOA version and not the old build a figure which I think looked better but is less affordable.
I like your style bro you’re very positive and happy vibed guy . Dont mind plz , I guess u should shave ur hair off you will look way younger and more badass that way .
Lol thanks dude. I’m tempted!
@@DisplayingModelBehaviour btw love your videos mate. Lots of positivity and good vibes Stay this way stay blessed . Have subscribed few months ago
Kinda hoping they re release this figure with a more comic based look, with the dark blue and white
With the same accessories
Basically, this exact figure, worh a repaint. Then I’ll buy it even for the $40
Skip for me. Getting the select anyway. This should have been a cell shaded figure in vhs packaging.
Yeah I get that
It's the new collab w/ Fisher Price...🍻
Good stuff, thanks for the review!
If I buy him I will probably take a sharpie and add cell shading although that’s sad he have to do that 😢
That could make a god improvement
I prefer the comic book color instead. Okay for $30 figure, but not $40 price tag.
Interesting size comparison. Way bigger than Wolverine but looks like a dwarf next to Hulk? Is that accurate? And depending on the artists, I thought he might to more bulkier?
I guess since one of his powers is to change size he can be however big to want him to be.
That sismpsons skit though lol 😂 priceless
Damn only 4.5/10 I’ll wait for it to be on clearance
Is this a mass release or exclusive
I think it’s mass release. I’m not sure though
I got this Apocalypse on pre-order, and i just bought every animated X-men figure that was available to purchase....Morph, Storm, Jean Grey, Jubilee, Wolverine, Mr. Sinister. My plan is start an animated section of my collection...this Apocalypse, all the cell shaded figures (all x-men including the amazing friends iceman, Spiderman and Venom). Even though the Apocalypse isn't cell shaded, i feel like he goes better with the animated figures because of his colors. He's just does not have cell shading.
Definitely better with the animated line!
THIS IS WHY CEL SHADING SUCKS. It will ALWAYS cause discrepancies. The problem isn’t this apocalypse, it is the rest of the animated series line. It was a bad strategic move from the beginning
Throw out the Cel shading! This apocalypse rogue and gambit are better representations than the Cel shaded figures
Where I come from “GOING FULL HOG” is definitely a thing..
There's no price on Honesty,and this was an honest review about how you feel.your not bigging it up for the sake of it and lately im seeing more honest figure reviews from other CZcamsrs and weather I agree or not is irrelevant to the reviewers honesty.Keep it up.
Totally torn, too. Like it and hate it. I paid £45.99 for this (!!!!).
I really do like the swap parts (heads, hands and gauntlet/cannon with effects) as these are new, and the basic figure is cool.
BUT...the paintwork here is unforgivable, cheap and shoddy. The heads do not match the body: these are vaguely metallised and have a decent paintwash, but are a completely different shade of blue.
If you want a parts pack for the BAF Apocalypse, this is your guy. But overall, this looks like they stopped making an effort after the heads were done. This is not 'animated style' or 'retro', it's a cheap & nasty repaint of a cool BAF, and Hasbro just couldn't be bothered to match head and body. But hey, this was only nearly £50, so what do we expect.
So, a spot on review from you, my friend. I honestly can't say that I 100% regret buying this, but it is a brutal screw job.
Man it's such a shame, Hasbro were so close to a good figure!
So true I washed the retro Goblin it made it look so much better I think it would help this one as well.Cheers I always enjoy the content
Totally agree about the paint. This seems to be a trend on recent legends. RHINO and Lizard have amazing head sculpts with great details, but the rest of the figs are just basic.
Really wanted this, but think I'll wait for the Select to go full hog
Lol good call
Hey Hasbro, I cancelled my pre-order because of David's review here, so instead of doing the decent thing and putting in more attractive paint work and sculpting into your figures offered at more reasonable prices (like the recent past and just a few years ago even), you'll probably want to take the much easier road and punish David for pointing out the facts to the people, simply by continuing to ignore him almost entirely.
Haha, it would've been so heroic and awesome and even increased Hasbro's public image and trust to give a preview of a figure to a reviewer who in all honesty tells it how it is.
People try to sell this for triple the price or more in its older form though, and it looks a whole lot better in all forms prior to this when prices are considered.
The argument here would be paying 2 or 3 times the price for a better one, getting this one, maybe getting and customizing and improving this one, letting this one go, letting them all go.
The unpainted look, seems pretty bad to me, and when compared to Rhino, Rhino seemed much more fancy overall.
For a bunch of billionaires (and that is how they got there), Hasbro seem like a rude, offensive bunch of cheap bastahs.
Nah, eff you Hasbro, I can skip having an Apocalypse and save what will come to 60 or 70 bucks or more for me here in Canada ordering from BBTS or Amazon, because it would just be a sad disappointment seeing this around, just like Hobgoblin, which now I got the old one and never got the new one which is so plain and bad looking for the price of 40 or more for me here. This is about what I want to see around here, I'd basically just be paying for the head sculpts since the rest bothers me a lot, even that rubbery belt that will maybe eventually become permanently distorted.
Alright.
They did Rhino backwards though. They put darker colors on the areas that should be highlights. Had to take off all the paint, wash and air brush it to look correct.
Omg you're right! What the heck is wrong with them! I noticed the new Scorpion has a different color torso or abdomen and upper thighs than the rest too, and I cancelled it. Cam you email me a picture of your Rhino re-paint for me to study and also the specific technique, steps, and paint you used? I'm looking to get into customizing figures also so I'd love to see all your work and what you've learned and figured out so far from tutorials and trial and error you may have experienced.
theartismagistra at the g sort of mail is my address if you know which I mean. I wrote it weurdly like that in case it auto-deletes comments with links and mail addresses sometimes.
That was a great impression!
That’s dude
Apocalypse 40 dollars??
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Apocalypse has that face because he just smelled Poop Stained Wolverine and he is like "What the hell, how is this even a fair fight? I have to fight Wolverine, but now I have to smell his poop as well?!"🤣😂 As for the figure....$40...um yeah....I'll wait until Amazon drops the price. How can they even screw up the paint job when the body is like 98% just plastic? Lazy release.
Super nice job on that Patreon read. Your impressions were spot on.
Bro thats an awesome Apocalypse impression
I pre-ordered but canceled. Not worth the price. I might pick him up on clearance.
At least they didn't ruin the figure with that half-assed fake "cel shading". What a disgrace the animated line is, I can't believe they are so terrible. If I get more space, I'll shell out for the Mondo line. The Hasbro versions just aren't even worth the shelf space, let alone the money.