Mooer Ocean Machine | An Inside & Out Full Review with Examples
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Need Ambience? An inside and out review of the Mooer Ocean Machine. Unique among effects pedals and loopers. Developed by Devin Townsend & Mooer over years of development and can be used with almost any instrument.
Contents:
0:00 Start
0:09 Intro & Preamble
2:23 The Price
2:45 Closeup Outside the Pedal
3.36 Inside the Pedal
4:35 Main Board
5:34 Quality
6:34 Components
7:57 Approvals
8:43 Power
9:42 Around the Back I/O
11:08 Front Hardware Controls
19:13 The Units Operation Plugged in
19:44 Operating Modes
21:17 The 'Play' Mode
22:04 Control Switches
23:14 Effects Controls
23:43 Menu Screen & Editing
24:18 Editing the 'Play' Screen
26:51 Tempo Sub-Division Editing
27:28 Reverb Effects
28:13 Delay 'B' Types
29:03 Delay 'A' Types
30:01 Expression Pedal
30:28 The Internal Looper
32:42 Global Settings
33:49 Expression Controls
37:29 The Air Switcher
39:24 The Manual
39:43 Warranty
40:20 Summing up & Conclusions
44:51 Overall Score
47:46 Playing Examples
What you will learn:
Is this different than other pedals?
What was the cost of the device?
Does this work with any amp?
How does this sound?
Can anyone use this effects unit?
Does it 'Djent'?
The Mooer Ocean Machine might be one of those devices that you see and then go out and buy it. That's 'OK' BUT (there usually is one). You're no Devin Townsend (and neither am I) and you wind up with the Ocean Machine and wonder what on earth you might do with it. Oh you're a 'Djent' fiend? Hmmm might be a problem... You're the next (put whatever name you want here) guitarist - well even you might have a problem...
You see, the Mooer Ocean Machine is no simple pedal and that's a fact. But in it's own way, this very specialized pedal is possibly one of the best effects units you can buy and it could conceivably change how you write music forever. You don't have to play a guitar to use it! It might work very well on so many other things - even vocals.
So what is this thing? Its an effects unit, but it loves ambience of tones and atmospheric parts of music that many can't really envisage. This unit will expand your mind and you WILL HEAR things that you claimed that you could never write, and create (with work!) those ambient tones that before were out of reach.
Its not a pedal for everyone - I take you through the inside and out reviews that I am known for - and I discuss the Air pedal and other features and the many benefits of this pedal. Lastly I 'play' some examples of the presets in the unit... now then, play is a funny word because I don't come from this style of music... but I reckon with a bit of practice I could write serious ambient and atmospheric tones and breaks in the rock music I usually play.
I do cover most stuff one way or another and if you are considering buying one of these devices then this video will open your eyes to the complexity and overall features and benefits of what exactly it is you will be buying.
This video is self funded, written & developed by me and is not sponsored by ANY company. I purchased everything. I hope this video inspires you too to consider other things like this ocean machine.
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I know it's strange, but these videos are so comprehensive that I sit thru all of them even when the reviewed product has no use to me! Cheers Tony, thanks for some good viewing while I recover from a hard 60th birthday blowout yesterday!
60 huh... its a vague memory for me but I'm sure you'll 'get over it' - and remember this - I'll ALWAYS be older than you :). Thanks
Another excellent deep dive, my friend! Much appreciated!!
A lot to cover - and it can be boring for some of the controls - I almost cut some, but then, if you had one in front of you it might prove useful to someone... Thanks Joey
Excellent thorough review. It does help to look inside. Thank you!
Yes interesting pedal but you have to work on it - nothing is easy - at least for me on this one...
Thanks for doing this Tony, I loved it.
My pleasure!
Very nice review I believe I’m going to get pull the trigger and get both of them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this equipment 👍
Sorry I could not offer a brilliantly played demo - it's not really my style (although I'm sure to pick up more on the Ocean Machine). Thanks for watching appreciated and I still have mine :).
Thank you very much for the very good video, I am waiting to try it when its arrive with my synth keyboard.
Yes do let me know what you think of the Ocean Machine when you have tried it out.. it is a very original device of that there is no doubt. Thanks for watching and have a great new year...
Brilliant as always Tony, I've been into DT since my teens, makes me feel old! It's great to see an in depth review by someone who isn't a fan of his and is reviewing the product independent of fandom. Keep up the amazing work and thanks again as always🤘
Ha not easy for me to even play that style of stuff. But if I sat down with it (some chance) I'm sure I could use the device and create with it. DT is simply too good at it all for me :) But I tried to offer a good review of the device - I think its spectacular for the money.
I loved watching this. thanks Tony
Its a very interesting device and I think its really a very good buy. Anyone in to this style of sounds this unit makes brilliant sense. Thanks for watching.
Great video, as always 😁🎸
Rock on!
Best review in the net, congrats, greetings from brasil
Thank you for those kind words... appreciated and of course for watching.
Great in Depth review Tony mooer builds some great stuff underated in my opinion it’s not always the price but the quality of a product.
Yes this one is pretty cool although I'm not the best at using it there is so much you can do. Thanks.
Great review! Massive fan of Devin and bought the pedal around a year ago...used it in every song ever since in some capacity. I run it off a Digitech rp500 so I often end up using both loopers and chain 3 delays and 2 reverbs. Makes for some crazy compositions!
Ha... mine are all crazy without the extras :) Hard for me to 'tune in' to it, but you're right it IS a brilliant piece of gear and I'm keeping mine... Thanks for the info and for watching - appreciated.
Cool stuff. Thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Thank you so much for this, Tony. I will receive mine tomorrow, want to use it hooked up with a synth for doing some live performance jams and stuff. Listening to DT for about 20 years now, with some breaks, and i have all his albums, even the older heavy SYL ones, which are really not for everyone. Its amazing how he developed and still stays true to this own kind of style going. I was able to see him two times live, one in a full band set, and the other one was this really lovely solo - "an evening with Devin Townsend" kind of private solo gig thing. Was like i was falling love with him, again . Really. He is so funny, charming, a smart guy and true to the heart. If you haven't checked out some of his stuff yet, i highly recommend you to do so. There are a few really "less wall of sound " like ambient ones around , you might really enjoy (or even maybe the more melodic heavy sound ones, who knows). Loved that smile you showed us during your performance around 50:25. :) And what you did play at the end was really dope - and i think you actually enjoyed doing ambiance. Much love. Yours, SF
Any time. I'm not a player of this style of stuff, but the unit really is brilliant. Ha I was the dope in the playing section for sure :) I watched Devin on the MOOER site and that's a bit of a great insight in to how he does it all. I really appreciate that style its quite incredible. I do intend to start with this unit after the completion of the studio work going on right now and integrating that unit in to the studio. Then I guess I'll create parts for it :) I don't really know of another pedal like that and they did such an amazing job for very little money really. In any case - I really like to hear from guys that like the subject matter and hopefully gain somehow from the video - that is why I make them. I'm certainly no tutor, but I really do try and show the stuff in ways that others never do. Thanks for watching too.
Love Devin Townsend! So much emotion esp in his heavy work!
Indeed, he's a genius player for sure. For me this device was like playing with it... I'm not good with these sort of units really, but Devin, well that's a whole different ball game. The unit however, is brilliant. Thanks for watching.
Your usual thorough review of a pedal that no one else gets close to. I have this pedal and it is certainly very deep in terms of what is possible to extract from it. If you are not up to the complex stuff it is still well worth it just for the basic delay and reverb presets. I agree with review re the excellent build quality although one of the knobs on mine became detached. Some super glue solved that problem.
It is a great pedal and also made well. It's particularly good value for the cost price I think. I agree with you on this pedal - while I'm not really expert at the playing with it, it also does work like a regular reverb, delay etc. and can be if you want it to be very powerful. Super glue! Ha that can fix many things... especially guitar related :). Thanks for watching and I don't regret buying this unit - still have it in fact.
What an incredible review. I come from a different angle. I'm not a guitar player, but want to use this with my DAW and Synths to send effects for my production.
Great point and I can see this working for that use too. Thanks for watching.
Great video. Amusing too
It made me laugh too :)
Hi Tony, thanks for your video. I own this pedal but after a big rain that flooded my room, the screen is on white when turns on the device. Effects works normal, but I can´t go for deep changes. Do you think can be repair?
Oh Luis sorry to hear that. That will probably be a return unit somehow. I'm sure they could fix it, but sounds like a lot of hassle :( Try the distributor for wherever you are they should be able to help. Let me know how that goes too.
Nice review - as always! I don't have that pedal, but I use the Strymon TimeLine, and I usually just start by searching existing presets until I get something that clicks. Then I use the tap tempo, and limit the number of repeats and lower the wet/dry ratio. In the heat of recording, it is easy to think the sound is spot on, but later, in the mix, there may be regrets. A safety measure would be to use a good DI box to get the direct signal from the guitar in case the effects were too invasive. Keep the reviews coming - we appreciate them.
Thanks for the info... seems so specialised - unless you NEED what it can do. Certainly as good as anything I have ever seen... and thanks for the info on this one... AND IF ANYONE HAS THAT INFO RE THEMIX OF THE TWO DELAYS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT!
Nice video
Thanks
Thanks for the review Tony. I'm a big Devin Townsend fan and I like to dabble with ambient effects. I've had my eye on one of these and think I'll take the jump after this in depth look. I never knew about the Air Switch and it's a really good price so I'll pick that up too. Thank you!
Yes that floor wireless switch is great and I have not seen other stuff like that... Thanks for watching.
I took the plunge. Got the Air Switch earlier on in the day. Just waiting on the Ocean Machine being delivered. Thanks again Tony! :)
Let me know what you think when you've spent time with it. I thought it was brilliant.
I waited 2 weeks for my delivery but I've had the Ocean Machine 5 or 6 days now. It's a really good device! A really good addition to my rig.
I love being able to feed each the delays into each other by changing the order of the chain in real time. You can get all sorts of weird and wonderful sounds from it. Great for creating sound between songs in a set!
The Air Switch is a weird one. I only find a use for setting tap tempo's or bypassing the Ocean Machine. Maybe the settings have been changed in firmware updates, but I don't have a midi to USB cable to check that at this moment in time. I was hoping it would possibly control the looper but it can't. Or at least give an option to assign the switches to control different things in the Ocean Machine.
Overall, I like it though and have no complaints so far. A solid little unit! :)
Michael thanks for this very helpful post - great to hear you like it... its pretty unique and a great deal too.
Jeez that thing sounds terrific. Thumbs way up.
Hard for someone like me to get something out of this pedal, but it certainly does have some incredible stuff in there and for a great price I thought. Thanks Tommy...
@@tonymckenziecom I’m never up to date on anything anymore. I just use a few now. New band is requiring blowing the dust off some.
However, I did acquire a Keeley dark side. It’s a delay, rotary and fuzz.
What I don’t like is there are a few assignable knobs and once one finds the sweet spot, one tiny nudge and it’s out.
The multi FX deals, I just don’t dig as it’s always, too many knobs on stage.
Ha I found 'too many knobs' in some of my bands :) but seriously, I know what you mean about all of that. When you're at a gig the last thing you need is that your sound walked out the door because something got knocked in some way - and that's the exact same issue re simulators too. You know I'm old fashioned and generally a delay, reverb and wah is it for me. I have not checked the 'dark side' pedal out. I always tended to keep things simple and that way there is far less that could go wrong. Ha the only real time I ever had major aggro (believe this it's true) was in a recording studio. We put down about three tracks and then the bass guy broke a string! Yes he did! But the worst was to come - because he had no spare... he ended up going home to get a string (I think it was a Sunday!) but I did get that sinking feeling at the time watching the studio time floating out of the window and we were all paying for it. :)
@@tonymckenziecom Amen to that situation. I learned the hard way about the stomps. I use rubber washers now. I grabbed a bunch of different sizes and use them on any device with suspect “potential” knob issues.
Gotta do the Keeley pedal next. At low volumes they all sound great.
Then you get to rehearsal and it sounds like a Welsh man without sheep.
(Just kidding).
Good idea on the washers. I'll look around at the Keeley dark side and if I find one I'll blame you :) (joking of course). Ha I worked in Wales for about 3 years at the end of the 70's. I can agree that without the sheep there is a difference... that would have been me back then trying to hide among the Welsh guys but ultimately they knew I was not 'one of them'. :) I could tell some stories but might get banned ... but those were interesting times I had... I lived in a little village called 'Bryn Y Baal' near to 'Mold' northern Wales. Nice place...
I thought you played just fine Tony :>) It reminds me of my Strymon Timeline in action.Great video by the way.Cheers dear Friend.
Thanks... :) back from Dallas and have CO*** :( really hard work but watch for the vids over Christmas I have some really good stuff coming up... regards HG.
I play mainly ambient guitar so have a lot of pedals. The Ocean Machine is a remarkable bargain. I got mine for £150 new. I could barely get a decent branded reverb pedal for that. Having used a plethora of delay and reverb pedals in all patching configurations, the Ocean Machine is the easiest pedal I've used to create ambient pads. The reverb hold function is pretty much all that is needed to create lush pads and soundscapes.
Some of the reverbs and delays I doubt I will ever use but the fact that a £150 pedal provides me with more features than I will use is a real achievement from Mooer.
As you say, it IS a great unit. I'm no ambient player, but it really does a lot for a little and is well made too. Thanks for the post... a good addition for any viewer. And thanks for watching.
Hey Tony! I've had my Ocean Machine pedal for like 5 years, and recently I have had a strange glitch with the pedal. I've had the pedal on for around 30 minutes, with reverb amd both delays on. Then suddenly, a terrible screech that blows out my ears happens. Has scared me out right THREE times now. Any ideas what could cause this? Many thanks for the video!
No answer from me... but reset the thing... and also check the power supply is ok... just in case. Let me know if you solve it... and thanks for watching.
Love the review thanks. I am new subscriber. So I came across this and passed since it didn't have an external tap tempo. Maybe you can now..? With Midi? Also some people said the verb algorithms weren't all that great. Never played it in person thought. Willing to if I could get my hands on one.
Ha as you might know I'm certainly not an expert on the device... it has its place but when I watch Devin and others I realize I should have been a drummer :)
Добрый день. Вы разбирайтесь в электронике и я это вижу. Скажите что лучше Mooer Ocean Mashine vs Strymon Big Sky /Night Sky? 🤔
Привет и спасибо за сообщение. The Mooer Ocean Machine против Strymon Big Sky - отличный вопрос. Все эти устройства на высшем уровне, и, честно говоря, я не могу посоветовать, что лучше, потому что это становится очень субъективным - то, что кому-то нравится, другому человеку может не понравиться. Я не могу хорошо использовать этот MOOER Ocean Machine (на самом деле я играю в другом стиле), но нет никаких сомнений в том, что устройство (и Strymon) все сделано так хорошо, так что ничего, что касается качества. Если вы можете, я порекомендую вам попробовать их самостоятельно и на своем собственном оборудовании ... Я не знаю, насколько сложно это сделать в России (извините за мое невежество), но, честно говоря, это лучший способ. Все спонсируемые видео просто говорят вам, что все отлично, но я знаю, что трудно найти подлинное мнение о том, как обычные музыканты могут найти эти устройства. В любом случае ... привет, спасибо за просмотр и за пост.
Privet i spasibo za soobshcheniye. The Mooer Ocean Machine protiv Strymon Big Sky - otlichnyy vopros. Vse eti ustroystva na vysshem urovne, i, chestno govorya, ya ne mogu posovetovat', chto luchshe, potomu chto eto stanovitsya ochen' sub"yektivnym - to, chto komu-to nravitsya, drugomu cheloveku mozhet ne ponravit'sya. YA ne mogu khorosho ispol'zovat' etot MOOER Ocean Machine (na samom dele ya igrayu v drugom stile), no net nikakikh somneniy v tom, chto ustroystvo (i Strymon) vse sdelano tak khorosho, tak chto nichego, chto kasayetsya kachestva. Yesli vy mozhete, ya porekomenduyu vam poprobovat' ikh samostoyatel'no i na svoyem sobstvennom oborudovanii ... YA ne znayu, naskol'ko slozhno eto sdelat' v Rossii (izvinite za moye nevezhestvo), no, chestno govorya, eto luchshiy sposob. Vse sponsiruyemyye video prosto govoryat vam, chto vse otlichno, no ya znayu, chto trudno nayti podlinnoye mneniye o tom, kak obychnyye muzykanty mogut nayti eti ustroystva. V lyubom sluchaye ... privet, spasibo za prosmotr i za post.
Help, I have my guitar Going into the Mono input on the machine and machine output going into Amp... What am I doing wrong?
Well you can connect it up to the front of an amp... but there are many ways to connect most pedals... and have you heard of the four cable method? If not search for that and look in the manual too... I would also use the amp clean... thanks
@@tonymckenziecom I figured it out, just needed more power...
Well thanks for coming back and posting what you did ;-)
When it first came out I think it was nearer £300 but the price soon came down, I got mine for £200 a few years ago, a great box of tricks.
It's a brilliant device for sure and one I intend to use carefully on recordings in the future. Made well too!. Thanks.
Hi my friend, i got the ocean machine, and out of BLUE It doesn't make any sound.
ALL the other functions is working, but no sounds comes out from the pedal. Got any ideia?
I would firstly do a factory reset on that unit.... ten let me know how it goes... thanks for watching.
@@tonymckenziecom Hi Tony, i did the reset, but nothing happended, still zero sound.
It is not only my gear, check out in the web, about ocean machine failures.
Just saw this and as advised seems problem re PSU overvolt? Heres what they said:
tips for anyone fixing them:
All can be checked without the control board attached, just the main board and power supply.
1. check if the power supply has juice enough. Mine here had 9v 1A which is way above needed. check polarity of said PS.
2. Check voltages on WRA1209 for 9v and -9v
3. check voltages on the 117 for around 5v. It should receive around 9v and output around 5v.
4. Before installing a new CS4272, without it installed measure 117 for the 5v needed. I burned one because of a bad new 117.
5. when changing CS4272 use alluminum tape or capton to protect the plastic stuff, specially the white relays, mine got a little "deformed". lol
tools needed:
- hot air station
- flux
- solder (duh)
- a microscope does help to check if the joints are good.
- thermal camera saved me a lot of time. the hottest component should be the WRA1209 with around 40-50 celsius.
@@tonymckenziecom wow, Thanks Tony, i Will SEE what i can do about It, greetings from brasil
@@tonymckenziecomis this processador, cs4272 made by cirrus logic?
Sounds good to me Tony, don't put yourself down!
Well I'm 'happier' playing rock stuff... ;-)
Devin Townsend played on That Pedal Show. He isn’t one of may favorites but he is a good guitar player.
Well I guess music is subjective like everything else. What I liked is that the pedal had thought put behind it really and the price was great for this pedal. I can't really use it that much, but it can fit particular sections of music I think. Thanks for watching.
LOL, I didn't know you could activate the delay and reverb Freeze features from the unit itself without MIDI control. It's explained in the manual, I just never noticed it. Thanks for reading the manual for me. I made a MIDI controller from an old Line6 Floorboard and it's really nice to use with the Ocean Machine. Demo here czcams.com/video/7LDePmXEfJw/video.html
Ha... I have to read the manuals :) Problem is, there is so much stuff inside these things these days that they 'sneak in' features that I certainly would not discern without reading through it. Thanks for the link... I'll take a look and I'm sure others will too... and hey thanks for watching - this is a great device - I'm no master of it, but you have to go a long way to find a better device. Thanks.
apparently the chopsticks are quite useful not only for food
:) indeed... but what a great device! and thanks for watching...
its a bit of a strange effect system Tony mind you its one of those things that if you need something different this is it
regards allan
Hey Allan... good to see you. It is a very weird thing for sure and I suppose I could have spent hours on it... but not the best pedal for me... trust you're doing OK there.
Everyone who is a true metal head has heard of Devon Townsend. SYL \m/ \m/
True :)... and thanks for watching.
thought you were a steve vai lover tony? never heard devin scream on sex and religion.
Indeed he was on there... but you know what - I never read the notes! Only recently did I find that out!... absolutely true...
Very bad pedals mooer Ocean .. sold it out ... Audio quality is poor...and muddy..😢
Thanks for posting that user opinion.... and thanks for watching.