Yellowface is a bad look, Hollywood
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- čas přidán 20. 04. 2016
- Stop casting white actors to play Asians maybe?
Scarlett Johansson's casting in 'Ghost in the Shell' is just one of the latest examples of a white actor playing an Asian character, a practice that goes back to the earliest days of Hollywood. These casting decisions have made Asians invisible at best and, at worst, the butt of a cruel joke.
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What's worse: having non-Asians play Asian roles or having Asians in your film but doing very stereotypical/cringey roles? I really don't know.
Honestly, the first one is better
As an Asian I would say the first one is better
A non-Asian play Asian role, while doing stereotypical/cringed roles......(my opinion tho)
I think the second one is worse.
They both bad 😭
And don’t get me started with the “Indian” actors...
Eperox skskskdjk ik their accents had me rolling ☠️🤣
What’s wrong with them?!
@@sweetea777 I am pretty sure Spill that Tea meant their comment in a way like this, "What's wrong with them, how could they do that?!"
Lukas Sprehn OHHHH
ik omfg
And an Asian guy being rejected to play an Asian character in Netflix’s life adaptation of the anime Death Note.
...dodged a bullet, it was a poorly done adaptation 😂
Ever thought of the possibility that maybe he was just untalented at acting as to why he was rejected? Not everything is about race
Gavino Suarez Ever thought why a white man is filling the role for a Japanese character? How can you argue that it’s not racially motivated, when race is considered in the first place?
@@gavinosuarez7398 ok Gavino Suarez...you are right nothing is about race and there is no racism and you don't have a hispanic name. ok. got it.
That's nightmare
Flash forward to 2020 “Parasite” has became the first non English movie to win an Oscar 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼.
Vanessa Oscar for best picture*. There’s a category for foreign films, was just the first one to win best picture.
It's really rare for non American films to win an oscar. For example, Disney films every year get nominated, they're good, but studio ghibli and many others that are arguably better either don't win or get nominated in the first place.
@@zacheryjequinto7259 And also Disney has monopolized pretty much everything... SMH😒
Wrote the history.
Parasite isn't a Hollywood movie though. Hollywood still has a long way to go.
Dear Hollywood,
Asians exist. Cast them.
Thank You, Everyone.
No, because that’s Asian cinema made in Asian countries for people that live there. There are no such things as “white” movies. Just movies in America. And there are ALL types of people in America
@@MAXIMUS-yk5vs there are also all types of people in Asia you dumb moron, 1% of Hong Kong is white, 2% of America is East Asian.
I believe yes they should but ghost in the shell was ok in terms of casting...
The problem is that there aren't enough Asian roles. And in those rare ones available, Asian actors still have to compete against their non-Asian counterparts to get them.
megin na people who are Born outside of Asia are not Asian.
still mad about Goku in Dragonball evolution
Actully he isn't Asian or white. He's most likely Asian but since he's an alien he should look different than all races
+Horace Galaxi it really doesn't matter that he was technically an alien, the movie basically stripped the original of any asian influence and basically made it into a generic disney movie where some high schooler gets super powers and has to save the world.
+Beyondfate132 Honestly, that movie would have sucked no matter who played Goku or the color of his skin.
Flap Jackson That's the whole point of my comment, the problem isn't just him being white, its the whole story being white as if DBZ had sex with saved by the bell.
Beyondfate132 Yeah I was agreeing with you, while adding my 2 cents
asians playing main characters are nowhere to be found but when hollywood needs people as market sellers or terrorists they got so many of them smh
That's why Asian in Asia watch Asian movie if they wanted Asian as main Character.
@@faustinuskaryadi6610 But asians arent asian Americans, so for asians America to watch asians TV to want a asian American main role isnt possible.. We are full blooded Americans and deserve the same respect as white ppl in America. This is our country grown and raised. Why can't whites just watch TV in Europe than. Wait i forgot, majority of them can't speak French, German, nor Romanian. Same with asian Americans, just cuz they are asians doesnt mean they automatically know Japanese, Korean, Chinese. Asian Americans arent foreginers in their homeland America , for majority of asians American this is their home. Why would any of us need to watch asian TV if we arent asian and we want our asian American representation on TV?
@@chesssenuggets3940 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Preach
@@chesssenuggets3940 LET EM KNOW.
@@chesssenuggets3940 Hey, at least your people get portrayed as smart and a 'model minority'.
the fact people think asian = having monolids scares me
Thank the Mongolians for that
I have double eyelids, but if I look up, I have monolids...
yeah! i’m asian and i have double lids, and so does my mom
Yeah they are many east Asians with double lids, they just use this stereotypical depiction of east Asians😐
anxious starstuff same here
What makes it even worse is that no Japanese women were allowed to read for the part either, it was open only for white women, just like the hunger games.
Hunger games was set in post apocalyptic america dude. So you can kinda get the idea for that specific role call.
Callan Attwood
so all people of color just died?
Clarify for me, if you will, what Asian characters in the Hunger games novels was snubbed for a whitey.
Callan Attwood
none that I can recall but Katniss was supposed to be brown and they made her white.
Katniss lives in District 12, also known as the Appalachia region of West Virginia. If we assume that the ethnic demographics of the futuristic Appalachia reflect District 12 demographics, maybe we can guess at Katniss' racial background.
According to the Census Board, White persons make up 93.9% of West Virginia (compared to the national 72..4%). So, the odds are pretty overwhelming that Katniss is a white person (of indeterminable origin). Still, she could be in the remaining 4.1%! (Note that people of African descent constitute 3% of that 4.1%.)[3]
If we make the very shaky assumption that District 12's racial demographics mirror modern demographics, the odds weigh heavily on Katniss being of Caucasian origin. Of course, Caucasians can come from North Africa, Middle East and some parts of Asia as well as Europe.
www.quora.com/Is-Katniss-Everdeen-a-woman-of-color
(get sourced)
*we don’t talk about the Dragon Ball movie. That- that scarred me.*
For life.
the movie is just bad in general
I was a very confused child after that movie
That’s a thing?!?
@@marcusi.7740 YEAH, whiteys fault.
1:25 i'm not asian but i'm offended as a member of the human race
THanK yoU everyone should have this decency
1:28 literally my reaction when that white guy played as asian
I'm sorry I found it funny 😂😂😂
I don't wear makeup, but even III can draw brows better than that
Bravo make up artists. Really got me. Sonmi too?
*There is no Avatar the Last Airbender movie in Ba Sing Se*
Here we are safe
_Here we are free_
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
Hi I'm Ju-dee
Sadly this movie has spread across earth, it exists every where, even political censored countries 😢
@@quanyuan6760I hoped I wouldn't have to use this...
*The Earth King invites you to Lake Laogai.*
Henrique Martins There was "labor reform" and "labor education", the labor reform is just like what i said, criminals will work while they are in the jail, they get commutation and wages, and the "labor education" is a bit different, it's actually not counted as going in to the jail, it's a lighter punishment than being jailed, designed for those who committed crime but not bad enough to going in to the jail, mostly teenagers, their labor job in the jail is just for correcting their bad attitudes, this kinds of detention (in China this is like going in to jail but not that bad) was canceled at 2013, so teenagers no longer going in to a children jail nowadays
Asia is not only consists of Japan, Korea, and China
They did mention India
They literally mentioned koreans, chinese, japanese, Tibetans, Filipinos, and Indians
I know riigggghhhtttt??!?!
They mentioned other nationalities, stupid.
Hanza Bachtiar did u watch the video dumbass?
Y'all really couldn't find a mixed Asian/Hawaiian? REALLY? LMFAO
jogatu they could; they just don’t want to
They didn’t even have to look for that specific mix. Just someone that looks like it 💀
There are plenty of them IN Hawaii for God's sake!
RIGHT??? Like in 50 first dates. When Rob Schneider played a native hawaiian.
Logic.
Reincarnated as Korean is... Wow
@Afifa Mostafa
Seriously tho. He's everywhere.
Are there atleast 20 people with the same CZcams account (Ray Mak)?😂
Why do I see you EVERYWHERE! Who are you 👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
Hi
Bro you’re everywhere
🍪
Okay but... Her name is *Anna May* Wong...
*Anime* Wong
I thought it was a joke or something 😂😂
heckin weeb
I used to think that "anime" is pronounce "ae-nahym"
Anime wrong
Rule 34 artists: WRITE THAT DOWN!!!
AND NOW WE HAVE CRAZY RICH ASIANS TO BRING US ASIANS JUSTICE!
Yasssssssssss
Addie Mei YES
Never forget that they wanted to whitewash crazy rich asians but Kwan was having none of that
samminos Yah and so are Japanese people and Koreans but we weren’t in crazy rich Asians. I’m pretty sure it was all Singaporean
@@sheppin_ lmak not even. Just check the wikipedia of the casts.
every time they make a middle east they pick the most light skin person they can find
Revok Sixth And then when they use Indian actors it's to play an originally Chinese culture
Same with black women. For some reason people are fine with casting dark skinned black men but a dark skinned black woman with afro texture hair are never chosen. And if she is, she is put at the butt of numerous racist jokes.
+tigana yes. exactly
+tigana - the one-drop fuckery is behind that though. If all it takes is one drop to make someone black, then all Hollywood has to do is cast the lightest most racially ambiguous person they can find, put them in the black-female character role and tick off the diversity quota because black people in America accept anything as black anyway.
Revok Sixth Unless that character is supposed to be a "terrorist", then they find the darkest dude with the biggest beard.
boo hollywood....cmon now time to glow up
Underrated comment.
'glow' is actually kinda racist... am I too sensitive? Probably so.
I mean some people can read it as a misspelling of grow up. In some Asian accents the R sound is replaced with an L and vice versa. So grow would turn into glow.
@@mikezhao8544 'sensitive' ? Yeah ir racist
It's like that, weird
It’s really shocking how this hasn’t been widely discussed. Also that this has been going on for so long and no one was talking about it ?!
@ did people really hate it because of race? I thought the character itself is pretty bad. Nothing to do with her race imo.
And the sad part is, it’s happened recently and no one is talking abt it
@@heycarlxyz the fans literally smothered her with racial slurs and bullied her off instagram. I'd say it's quite racist
Probably because people screams racist at almost anything other than Asians getting mocked on the TV and the west laughs like there's no tomorrow.
I'm sure asians were back then but no one cared
Asian actors, Black actors, Latino actors - They are just as equally talented as white actors. The industry does not care about that though, they just want big-name white actors to sell their movies.
The only beef here is that minority actors are not given a fair shot or even considered when in comes to casting decisions. That's what needs to change. Hollywood says the public will not see a movie with a non white actor lead, and as a consumer, I feel that's a bunch of crap. Give us a good movie and I promise you the masses will see it, regardless.
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+Chilpoctli You what? TELL ME!! :D
+Chilpoctli Sometimes it goes the other way, though. Oscar Issac, who is Guatemalan, was cast as English King John in Ridley Scott's Robin Hood. Just saying
+Gumaro R. Villamil +Gumaro R. Villamil OK yes in that instance it did go the other way but if you think that makes it even, I'm sorry but no. Please find me another movie where that happens, and if you have to Google it then that only furthers my point. Look dude, I'm not here to argue the morality of yellow-face or white-face or whatever. I have my opinion, you have yours and I'm sure nothing we say to each other is gonna change that. I'm just stating a fact, that when it comes to Western main stream media, there's a disproportionate amount of minority actors to white. That's a fact. I bet most people would struggle to name 10 Asian actors, 15 Latino, or 20 Black but have no problem naming 50 white actors.
+Gumaro R. Villamil Oscar Issac is half Guatemalan, his father is Cuban. He's still Caucasian, Hispanic yes, but Hispanic isn't a race, it's an ethnicity and Oscar is fairly light skin man
I feel like Cloud Atlas was justified because it's about the characters being reincarnated. Halle Berry becomes a white Jewish woman, Doona Bae becomes a Mexican lady, Hugh Grant is a Hawaiian cannibal from the future, etc. The make up was reasonably convincing.
+Noah Vickers Story-wise, it makes sense, but the make up was HORRIBLE
I agree the whole point of Cloud Atalas os that was the souls of the individual characters re-incarnating along a specific time line and the best way to show that is by having the same people playing them
+Noah Vickers I feel iffy about the actors playing other races, it's just weird. I think it would have been great if the characters were played by other actors every time they reincarnate.
+Nanny G ._.
+Noah Vickers What about the several raunchy-type comedies whose characters weren't even meant to be taken seriously? Or the commercial with Ashton Kutcher which was similarly cast in a totally joking manner?
Why can't hollywood just accurately cast people? It's not that hard to get a Japanese actor who could do the role just as good as a white woman. It's like a pattern in behavior.
@@nikolemiranda9640 her name is completely japanese and the whole thing plays in japan you have to be joking
@@nikolemiranda9640 Her name is motoko though
@@nikolemiranda9640 No she is supposed to be Japanese, everyone who read the manga and watch the anime know it.
@@nikolemiranda9640 they said they‘re ok with them use Scarlet to act as her, but everything they write about her indicate she’s Japanese.
@@nikolemiranda9640 Also the movie fail, american alway try to whitewash everything, that’s why all of their anime adaptations fail.
This is a shoutout to Grey's anatomy because of their lack of Filipino doctors and nurses
How can a hospital exist without Filipino staff ?
"(Rob) Schneider is a quarter Filipino so... progress?"
I kinda feel bad for laughing hysterically at that line.
Don't worry, we all did
how asian is enough asian to play an asian
Tbh quarter Filipino
Is not considered as part filipino
Bc ur only quarter of it ;;
Yeah they got the appearance
But it's minimally seen or noticed
i don't. it was funny. ah, so ! vellly velly funny !
To be fair, he has claimed in many interviews and stand ups on how proud he is to be part filipino. Comparison to him in Chuck and Larry isnt the best, but his portrayal in Big Daddy and 50 first dates is the closest to representing a filipino than any white actor.
Honestly, they're creating more problems for themselves and the future of Hollywood by not casting Asians. Hollywood could cast more big-name Asians actors for different movies, if they would just cast some Asians for big movie roles.
Yoyo handsome Big wow here it is again
How about Seohyun oder Sooyoung? They are good actors. :x just an idea.
Gale K I agree, as an Asian American I have my own film studio!!! Hollywood you're making a HUGE MISTAKE!!! Pulp, Fictional times...
I agree! And nowadays the Asian film market is growing larger and larger, so there are plenty of actors to choose from. Not to mention the support that the film will gain if they cast an Asian actor for a great role!
I love that Hollywood pretends to be "diverse" and "inclusive" but when they do, it's just stereotypes, caricatures and black people. No offence to black people but blackwashing characters is not how one does diversity.
Are you from twitter
I agree with what you said
Is it just me or the term "yellowface" is extremely racist?
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How? I could understand how the act of yellowface is racist (because it was made to be). But not the term..?
@@andrew-song People get offended over anything
huh? it’s basically the same as saying black face. black ppl obviously don’t have black skin, and asian ppl don’t have yellow skin.
If that's the case, than wouldn't "Blackface" be extremely racist?
White actor: *plays as asian*
Asian actor: *plays as white person*
*insert suprised pikachu face*
Also asian actor & white actor : play as black people
I would like to see this one irl.
@@storm6245 if you want to see Asian act white go see "Oh my English" that show really shows white fetishes more than study English...
I mean, shouldn't happen none of them,I hope the spike Spiegel 's actor does a good job on the Netflix adaption of cowboy bebop,I hope it is even a good thing and not straight up garbage.
i can't think of a single white person who would be offended by that
Proof that progress is very very very very slow.
What progress ?
nong Sick What You on fool??!!!
NoobKiller Roof Progress= White Jealousy
@I'm Jack's Nipples
Except the white barely make a minor dent in the population, and I don't know which of these Asian made movies you talked about, but even back when Bruce Lee was alive and was treated poorly by Hollywood (ran by overwhelmingly, if not all white people) but even his Chinese made movies allowed white and black actors in it, at a time when racism and bigotry was prevalent in America. And almost always when Asian creates films and movies it's usually based around their cultures, and the people of said cultures.
It goes to show you that nonwhites still gotta fight for opportunity in this country. And when issues like this relating to minorities struggle, right wingers, including the same ethnic people in that group, tries to put it down claiming it's not a problem or the problem is too little to even thought about. But when white right wingers sees nonwhites playing a role in Hollywood movies all of a sudden it's a problem that's gotta be said.
Imagine my confusion as a kid when all the "native Africans" in Tarzan were white.
Sad to think that Linda Hunt won't play Edna Mode in the live action Incredibles movie 😂
I don't think Cloud atlas could be used as an example in this context. After all the movie did blackface, yellowface and 'whiteface' and a male actor portraying a female character. the whole main cast had multiple roles. The whole point of the story was the continuum between all the characters. In all the other movies i find it actually disgusting how they whitewash many fictional characters and then cast white actors, as if it would somehow be a bad thing to be anything other than white...
Agreed.
True true but at least the other "faces" didn't look like aliens. When I was watching that movie, I didn't realize that they were human for a few minutes.
Asian here, and I agree.
Well said. At first viewing I wondered if that particular timeline was a time when society considered looking "Korean" to be the desirable norm - even to the extent of having/being forced to have (shitty) plastic surgery. Like some kind of meta commentary. But that doesn't hold up with regards to the continuum-theory.
Yep. Cloud Atlas is having its actors play all types of roles. It's for story, not just because.
Here come the people screaming "the best actors get the job race shouldnt matter"
Salty.
ikr? meanwhile if that mindset was shared in the academic world, affirmative action wouldn't exist. "the best actors get the job, race shouldn't matter" VS "it doesn't matter how good of a student you are, as long as your race meets the school quota, you'll be accepted". smh.
mishi kim no dumbass the whole point of those things are bc that isnt what happens
Adam Blackler are you saying all Asians are bad actors?
i am half asian and idgaf about race, cast who u want i care about people's acting skills not their race
No the smiley face said you're salty, your opinion means nothing apparently. They should remove all acting colleges/classes and just hire random ethnic group people because that is a far superior system.
Lol imagine going to the movies watching terrible actors all hazily thrown together based on their ethnic backgrounds, you'd probably think you were watching a home movie or some CZcams footage because of the poor acting, hey if your a minority race like me we could be a in a movie together acting terribly!
Excuse me, Cloud Atlas has all the reasons for the actors to play an "asian role" EXACTLY because of the reincarnation, as all the actors throughout the movie play so many characters. Just like what you are claiming, you could say it's whitewashing when Doona Bae plays a white woman in one of the arcs. I don't disagree with the point of the video, just think this example was a very badly chosen one.
Well said 👍
As an Asian, I'm really happy that in recent years we've been getting more *ACTUAL* representation. In the last 3 years, we've seen 2 Asian-directed films win Best Picture, a Marvel movie with an Asian MC, the first Asian to win Best Actress and the explosive popularity of Kpop. I'm glad that we can build a name for ourselves without having other races interfere and misrepresent us.
need an Asian oscars movement.
kek
I need a Russian superpower, and a wasteland called America.
+COOLOD1 Bring it on; slick
Rinko Kikuchi managed to get nominated for her role in 'Babel'.
thesonski93 Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon was one of the best movies I ever saw and that film was crawling with Asians.
In Asia, we don't paint Asian white to play white character, we just hire one. Only one exception, when the character is Jesus, we hire Korean to play him.
But they do like to put on blackface all the time
That’s not true, in Japan whenever they adapt a movie from a novel or anime or there’s a comercial and the characters are western they still hire Asian actors and they even use white/black/latino stereotypes and racist jokes sometimes and I don’t see anyone giving a bat about that
Not only japan but I’ve seen China and other Asian countries do this too
Explain FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST then. How a fictional country in the manga supposedly based on Germany has Japanese people in blonde wigs.
jesus isnt white who lied to you
in Asia, Jesus and Buddha went for a Roller coaster ride.
invalid example: cloud atlas keeps the actors between reincarnation through history. in the previous reincarnation the asian woman of the couple was wearing white face. the plot would have been much more confusing if it wasnt for the yellow face and the white face, as the recognizable character faces allow us to match who is the reincarnation of what.
Shush, don't bring logic and rationality into this.
@@SKeeetcher ok I actually laughed out loud. Your reply is too accurate
Totally agree, cloud atlas couldn’t just have casted an actual Asian to play those roles. It had to be the same actors. They also casted Doona Bae for a major role and not a white actor
@@FlyingGrizz Yes, as Asian I found Cloud Atlas is not problematic. They still let Donna Bae as lead role in Neo Seoul story arc.
@@faustinuskaryadi6610 Yeah. She was there.
You know what? No one who really live in Asia care
sure, go ahead and cast ppl of other race for a role. But don't give them "asian" makeups or "asian heritage" in the movie! Is it that hard to understand?
Kaitlyn Song So they are Asian but don’t look Asian ? That doesn’t work either
@@007Fusiion No, I think what Kaitlyn meant was reconfigure the story to fit a a non-asian ( presumably American) character. So the character is no longer asian and their stories are remodeled and tweaked to fit their western persona... Now I agree it's not possible with every story being told in Hollywood, but the ones that are purely fiction can have this, like they did with Jessica Alba's ' the eye' sort of...
@@mdCreationz But wouldnt that also just erase asian people further from the public eye?
@@violettaschmieder2096 Asians are pretty public, I mean you can't really forget that they exist. Most directors are white and for some of them, it might be easier to write a white character (I actually do this when I roleplay in MMOs) because they're familiar. I think that there's a broad range of Asian talent and that it's actual yellowface when they aren't cast for Asian parts, but if the director's vision is somehow changed by the character being Asian then I think it is right to change the nationality of the character.
Kaitlyn Song we all remember what happened when they tried that in DeathNote...Never again
last airbender movie was just trash but the animated series was my favourite
+taegan:
Too me? The whole thing was a delete scene!
The animated series is legendary
Tilda Swinton being cast as the Ancient One was directly meant to avoid perpetuating the "Mystical Asian" stereotype.
This is a great video, with an important point. One small thing however - Tilda Swinton is not playing a Tibetan character. The production company couldn't sell the movie in China with a Tibetan character, so they changed the character to be Celtic. Tilda Swinton got cast to play a Celtic character. The film was hence sold in China.
An Asian actor played Wong. They could have done the same for The Ancient One.
@@user-cw2py6wh8l - you can’t have any characters that would seem as pro Tibet. Hence making a Tibetan character now white. The Chinese government would ban the whole film and probably subsequent films and even alot of Disney projects in their market. So oddly enough movie studios make choices that impact source material in order to be able to make a profit overseas. Take a look at Taskmaster in black widow,
They had to change the costume because anything resembling a skull couldn’t be allowed in Chinese movie screens.
@@spidermancares why white? there are other Asian characters living with the Ancient One in Tibet. Did China complain about the Asian characters? It's Hollywood White washing. Hollywood could have use the other Asian actors in the movie as the Ancient One.
As an Asian person, I'd say living in Canada, there isn't much direct racism, although never seeing Asians in main roles kinda makes me feel like I'm not supposed to be a main character in the world.
So thank you Vox for speaking up about this!
You clearly don't even understand his comment smh.
Tay Maree I think that in Canada or America in general, people are already more aware that there are many races and ethnicities who live there than in "Asia" (at least in S.Korea). There is also a big difference between S.K and Canada in terms of mixed populations, it's not really comparable
But it's not as bad as in the US... Canadian shows have more Asian characters in shows and movies. I agree leads aren't really given to Asians. But look at shows like Kim's Convenience, and Second Jen. I remember seeing Asian characters in Katts and Dog, and Danger Bay where they didn't play stereotypical characters.... They played marine biologist and a cop. These were old shows decades ago. In film, Double Happiness with Sandra Oh which basically launched her career into a Gray's Anatomy, Arli$$, etc. So I think Canada showed more Asian representation earlier than America who weren't portrayed as waiters, restaurant and laundromat owners, gang members or martial artists. The only American show that had a positive Asian actor was George Takei's character in Star Trek. Huge Chinese and Asian in news ie. Andrew Chang (CBC), Mutsumi Takehashi (CTV Montréal - she's been there for decades!), and I'm sure there's more whether it be on national or regional newscasts. Personally, I think Canada is more progressive than the US in many respects. Remember, we pride ourselves on multiculturalism. Even South Asians like Ian Hanomansing, Camille Ross, etc are main anchors and hosts.
Tay Maree are you..... are you brain dead?
Tay Maree if it’s an ASIAN role, it should be played by an ASIAN actor. there is no need for a white person to play an Asian? it’s pretty offensive...
Yeah.... Let's not bring up Avatar and Dragon Ball Z movies again please, they hurt too much.
I know right? It's so bad I don't even know why they made it at the first place.
and don't forget 2 things:
-Michael Bay's Transformers is better than DB Evolution, so
-All of you need to woke up & accept that Hollywood actually Support "Anime is Satan" movement
Yoyo handsome Big gotta save some money
I don’t even know why they mentioned avatar. None of the characters were Asian in the anime
White Lantern they were Asian
The funny thing is is that the people of Japan loved Scarlets performance so is it really racist?
CLOUD ATLAS is such a maligned movie. It should not be taken at... Literally face value. You have to watch the movie to understand the underlying tone and message. Also, to understand why a character is depicted in different races makeup meant to illustrate reincarnation and karma.
I'm glad someone said this.. Otherwise I was going to have to. 👍
also a reminder.. non-white actors played white characters as well for the same reason.
Call me a special snowflake or a triggered liberal but this is true: Representation Matters. When I was little I rarely saw any asian characters in books or movies. (except for mulan) I started wishing In was white from the age of FOUR. i remember dressing up as a cinderella and wearing a yellow scarf on my head for “blonde” hair and wishing i could just disappear into that character. not because theatrical reasons (i have not acting talent whatsoever) but because i just wished I wasn’t chinese. i felt different, less valued, and less beautiful from everyone else. by the way, I am not exaggerating at all. as a child I always had a big imagination and in my daydreams i was always white. i never thought of it as a problem until many years later looking back. I hated being chinese almost up until middle school. yeah, the push of asian american representation seems so microscopic in the midst of things but this could make many little asian american kids happier and prouder of their beautiful ethnic background. at least it would’ve helped mini me. sorry for this little rant with horrible capitalization i just needed to get it off my chest:)
Gabby I feel you. Western movies and shows filled the television slots for my dad and mom when I was a kid, at the age of 3 or 4 I wondered why I wasn’t born in America. When the ABC comedy series Fresh Off The Boat came out, I was so happy to see an Asian American family acting just the same way as my family did, but on TV. Representation DOES matter.
Zhi Hzccz this country is like 50% white, it’s not a white country either. You can’t just ignore the way the other 50% grows up
Gabby
Same. Being raised Asian-American is scary. I wasn't familiar with people or, famous celeberties "like me". I thought I was a outcast as a kid since when I pretended to be a superhero or a celeberity they would mock me with gibberish and stretch their eyes
Vi Le lmfao white people wont understand. They don’t feel like they don’t belong because of their race. I use to have such an inferiority complex because whenever Asians were on tv it was to mock them.
That's such a mean gesture to do to someone! I feel so sorry for you. Nobody deserves to be mocked that way.
why so many dislikes though
this video was informative and well put together
+dhodz hoddy L
That's a joke right?
Lol no
+The Middle Man no? i honestly don't get whats wrong with it
+Errold Tumaque
I feel like, and I try to not bring emotions into this but they're kind of relevant, that people are getting upset with the fact that the 'reporting' leaves quite a bit to be desired.
They're making the issue about race, thus, some feel that it implies racism towards whites because it actually is racist to tell a specific race 'hey, you can't do that because you're [specific race]'. That leads to the fighting in the comments etc etc.
The real issue, in my opinion, is that not everything is being considered. By this I mean that Vox is postulating that race alone is the reason why an actor can not be cast as another race not their own, rather than something reasonable such as they have better skills or chemistry for the project they are working on. While they do have a point in the fact that there is some misrepresentation that is not what should be the main point, the idea that skills>race should be the main point.
Sorry for rambling, it's a very complex subject and it takes a lot of thought to fully wrap one's head around it.
tl;dr: Misrepresentation should be the main focus, not the race of the individual vs the race of another, i.e. making it about race usually leads to racism in itself.
That face reborn as Korean is just hilarious
Not to talk about how they hired white actors for the Netflix adaptation of Death Note. Like come on 🙄
The cloud atlas guy was a korean character??????? His home was full on oriental japanese and there wasn’t a single korean feature in his home wtaf
Q L Seriously?
Maybe a Korean that is heavily interested in Japanes culture? I dont know.
@@unknowngaming1432 knowingly what history koreans have with Japan I doubt mate
Coming from people who wear dreads, it's not surprising they think the ornaments are the same for all East Asians
@@moxenremon3251 ikr
If you were born in Japan, it means you lived your childhood in a homogenous society --- Asian people everywhere, representation 100%. To Asian-Americans who were born in the United States, though, this matters so, so much. They're rarely given a voice. Please view it from their perspective.
Nguyen Le Phuc I agree so much with this.
It's the whole "Asians are only foreigners" myth that gets projected in film and television that is very damaging imo.
You are right too.
There are many many Asian-Americans born and raised here.
Yet people always treat them like they are foreigners from "somewhere else" and
are viewed with disdain from the "locals" in some places.
Sad :(
I was born and raised in nyc where there was a lot of diversity in cultures so I don’t fully understand. However, when I visited Oregon, there wasn’t a handful of Asian there so it felt like they treated us as foreigners
Vox has another video called "The myth of race, debunked in 3 minutes" claiming that "race isn't real." So, how can they make this video? Hypocrites!
It's called acting. Get over it. There's plenty of white characters portrayed by non-white actors. It works both ways. And, according to your previous video, there's no way to prove that Emma Stone is not Asian.
In Cloud Atlas, the movie mentioned in this video, Halle Barry plays a white woman in one of the sequences. The whole point of that movie was that you had a few actors each playing several different roles, many of different races, timelines, etc.
LOL. You clearly didn't understand the gist of the video. Race isn't real but racism is.
Isn't the point of acting to play dress up and pretend you are something you aren't? I mean isn't that why we have a black actress playing Anne Boleyn.
yet you get mad if asian and black is a viking or a european knight lol
Calling them yellow is not a good look either, vox
Asians are yellow. Deal with it.
@@andersongodoi8080 indians are asians and they are brown
@@jnmks think they meant oriental Asian
@@andersongodoi8080 nope racist
nobody knows another term for yellowface. its a widespread term many people know so that's what they used. the term itself is problematic in my opinion because it should be separated from blackface because they're different issues but also it only considers pale east asians but should really include south asians, south west asians, etc b/c they're brown they don't have yellow undertones
1:08 she kinda looks like lord farquaad
weiwei and Edna😂
She's from that movie she devil it's great movie should totally check it out :)
The most racist industry
That is white people, and jews for you, man.
Thats false, remember slavery??
Really!? Just as it's racist for Asian countries to remake western movies with all Asian casts...?
auritone and where have you seen this I’ve seen Asian films with Americans portrayed as Americans
YaBoiMou
Here's a little list you can go through that I posted in a comment. All of these western movies, plus a lot more have been remade in Asia with Asian casts.
"The remains of the Day", "A Few Good Men", "Sideways", Breaking Away", "When Harry met Sally", "Entourage", "Only You", "Primal Fear", "I Know what you did last Summer", "West Side Story", "The Good Wife", "Philadelphia", "It happened one Night", "Cellular", "Unforgiven", "Ghost", "It", "On the Waterfront", "Le Diner De Cons", "Knight and Day", "Lost", "Gone Girl", "The Miracle Worker", "Cold Case", "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers", "Ugly Betty", "Overboard", "U-Turn", "Reservoir Dogs", "Mrs. Doubtfire", "The Godfather", "The Silence of the Lambs", "A Kiss before Dying", "Kramer Vs Kramer", "12 Angry Men", "Chinatown", "Cavité", "What women Want", "Blood Simple", "A Nightmare on Elm Street" etc etc etc.
I was even made aware there is a Nigerian remake of Titanic out there somewhere...
Remember the "Nepalese" guy in Indiana Jones that was played by Malcom Weaver.
But she’s a robot in ghost in a shell so...
And Scarlett Johansen isn’t a robot.
I was watching commentary on the topic and a youtuber of Chinese descent said it was disapppointing that they cast Scarlet as they kept the Japenese/Asian scenery but just because the main character didn't necessarily have to be Asian they didn't cast an Asian. This on top of Hollywood history of using White actors to depict Asian characters or an Asian actor of a different race to the character they are portraying, for example casting a Chinese person to portray a Japenese character.
with china becoming a huge market in the movie industry now, they better start casting more chinese actors
juki0h tuki yep, it’s happening, they’re casting Liu Yifei as Mulan in the live action movie, thank god it’s not someone like Scarlett Johansson
stopped watching shallow-storied pathetic hollywood crap long time ago
CDLLBOSS Lee 骂谁呢！ 你一辈子都没她有才华
we better say they ran out of excuses using White women for this character
like that hot chick in the great wall and king kong?
Did you all not watch Cloud Atlas or did you just not understand it? The same souls are being reincarnated in different genders and different races, any of the Korean parts who were not reincarnations of characters seen earlier would have gone to Koreans. Halle Berry, for example, was incarnated as a white person at one point.
If anything that film played with and questioned the way Hollywood casts people. All that went right over your heads!
I think the message that souls don't have a race was wonderful, and you had to spit on that! There was also the suggestion that souls did possibly have a gender, and with a transgender writer and director you can see how the theme would resonate and be taken seriously.
You're comment only applies to that one movie. This video talks about the lack of racial representation in general.
+Rachel Cho An example is an example; The fact that it's 1 in so many, doesn't change the fact that it's still a thing. Yellowface is only a small percentage of all movies, but that doesn't make it any less of an issue.
CZcams IS THE FRONT LINES OF MODERN PHILOSOPHICAL DISCOURSE
real asian face to white asian face: "who are you"
That’s a very short video. I’m sure there’s more to be said about the topic than just this.
NO idea why this video has so many down votes.....did people just read the title and call it a day? Everything seemed on point.
+Gmork People can disagree silly.
+Gmork They also imply stuff like "racist jokes are never ok" and "NO! Only people of X race can play X race", etc/
+Gmork Some people like to pretend that racism hasn't existed since slavery and don't like to be reminded of the reality.
+Gmork Have you seen Cloud Atlas?
one of its underlying themes was a criticism of racism, and you could argue it
criticized yellowface and blackface. Halle Berry played a white woman in it, for example.
This video was a very superficial review of a very serious problem that people take seriously. When people just vomit up a poorly researched video like this with such flippancy they discourage people from taking the point seriously!
On the other hand, I'd say any of the down voters who didn't down vote it for being so shallow are probably just racists who think it's okay that most hollywood movies only have white actors and that of the top 15 cast there are never more than 3 women.
thisjerksaguy Ugh, you still don't get it.
Representation matters.
but please don't cast a black man to play L. (Netflix)
L should be the palest most disgusting human being who hasn't showered in months, since he's literally a walking brain, his body is just there.
Black L looks ways to clean, you just don't get the sense that this guy literally spends all this time indoors infront of a pc.
kuro neko I’m okay with subtle representation but most representation in the media is “HEY IM BLACK what’s your name? My names black guy I’m black did you know I’m black it’s pretty hard to be black you know I know cause I’m black.”
what show is this
Sydney Lightbourn the unholy movie adaptation of Death Note
L isnt Asian. L is white.
1:26 _Cloud Atlas_ shouldn't be an example of yellowface. The reason why they are white actors in makeup is because the plot [sort of] incorporates the concept of *souls* - different bodies/lives, but the same old soul (reincarnation, essentially.)
Now if you want to show that in a movie but can't directly explain it to the audience, having the same actors but in different costumes or makeup is already the best way to do so. If you cast different characters to play the same soul for the sake of accuracy and diversity, that would be hella confusing.
It's not just them who was put into makeup to play a different ethnicity though. *ONE* of Halle Berry (a black woman)'s characters was an Indian and Doona Bae (the Korean shown in the video) also played a Mexican mom.
Then why don't they start with someone mixed?
As an Asian, I find this very discriminating 🤦🏻♀️
And its not only in hollywood too, we were playing this play for a theatre and there was a Chinese actress better than ANYONE in there and yet she didn't get picked, but the ones who did were all white
I don't think cloud atlas should be included. Both the Korean and black actors were put in whiteface for the movie. All the main actors went through race transformations.
+Conswa McGaga Not to mention the entire story is based on changing ethnicity. Bad example
Totally agree here. The who point of that story was to show the reincarnations of the same people in the differing roles, races, and stories. It was essential and integral to the story. No was was pretending to be any single race but more acting as a single multiracial entity.
Boo, on you Vox. That movie was the exception and you know it.
Yup. It's just ignorant, retarded social justice warriors having no clue what they're talking about.
Im white and this is just-
nO why and the jokes they ad to it is disgusting.
Bollywood did a movie on Mary Kom, a sportsperson from Manipur in Northeast India. Ironically non of the main character including Mary Kom in the movie were from the Northeast, they were all Bollywood A list actors in Yellow Face. Talk about racism in Bolywood, sheesh.
when you said “filipino” i almost dropped the food in my hand i never expected anyone to actually mention us lol vox you guys are awesome
Yoyo handsome Big I had one
Yoyo handome Big You´re so pathetically stupid and brainwashed, it´s sad
j wat..
nutcracker when ppl think asia they think china and japan while the philippines gets constantly passed over- to american born filipinos (like me) they feel invisible and often feel distanced from their culture
nutcracker that’s perfectly valid, and that’s your own experience. but a lot of other filipino-americans (especially those who don’t live in an area with a lot of asian-americans like me) feel this way, which is why some get astonished when their own ethnicity is acknowledged
I’m a quarter Asian and when she said the guy was a quarter Asian and was like “progress?” That hurt
Hopefully it will get better for minorities.
In my country in Asia, half Asians are not even considered Asian so you’re as “non Asian” as you can get according to them if you’re only a quarter 💀
sorry hon, you aren't enough asian for this woman.
Well some Filipinos tend to already be not fully Asian. Not all of them mind you. But a lot of Filipinos I've seen already look half Asian.
@@TimLimDimSims Filipinos, Indonesians, Malaysians, and basically Southeast Asia belong in a group called Malay. Yes, we kind of differ from Northeast Asians thats because we mixed with other indegenous groups in our areas.
As a Asian (Filipino) I felt disturbed when i saw the live action avatar
Ironically, Korean entertainment now is the new Hollywood. Nobody watch American romance anymore!
Thankfully so
Bruh....
Cloud Atlas is a poor example. One of the purposes of using the same actors throughout the film was to provide story line continuity, not because they didn't want to hire other actors. It's a movie that hasn't engaged in whitewashing. Not sure why it was brought up; you had hundreds of other examples at your disposable.
the cloud atlas example felt strange to me too.
Agreed, its similar to just looking at the trailer of the movie without having actually watched it. The Great Wall with Matt Damon is also quite controversial too but actually I believe the Chinese funded it to promote Chinese culture and used Matt Damon because he was a big name and could bring in sales. In a sense, Matt Damon is used as a trojan horse against American audiences because Hollywood felt it wouldn't be enough to have only Chinese actors in the film. That being said, I still agree with the majority of the video
It is and it isn't. It's just a weird example. The sound design behind Hugo Weaving messing with Tom Hanks as the devil was extremely good. Everything else was just weird.
I agree, Cloud Atlas is a poor example. It has Asian cast members playing white and Latino characters.
You have to admit, though, when you see those white actors in that alien-ish makeup that's supposed to make them look Asian, it's startling and more than a little grotesque. I can easily see why people would find it offputting or offensive.
What about Al Pacino playing a Cuban in Scarface? Is that racist?
I'm willing to give 'Cloud Atlas' some slack. It's telling six stories in a setting that spans about five hundred years, so the reusing of the cast across the stories is to give a sense of coherence and hold a thematic value.
Exactly. It was about seeing souls grow (or not) through the ages and how their legacies affected others. Brilliant movie. I still need to read the book.
@@DamienDrake So only white people have soul?
@@maggiejetson7904 EVERY actor in the cast, with different skin colors from all over the world, played multiple characters of different races in the movie. There was about as much whiteface as blackface and yellowface in there.
@@HabituallyObsessed LOL you are not fooling anyone.
@@maggiejetson7904 Have you watched Cloud Atlas?
"Goku" was a pain to watch.
Cloud Atlas is not a good example, it was the point of the movie. All of the cast played different characters of different ethnicity, gender in different timeline. The korean girl seen in the scene with him had also played the role of a rich white woman a spanish lady. It's not a fair example
The part about sgt motuko was also unfair, her robotic body was clearly white compared to the japanese population around her
@@bluenorth3965 the others i understand, i was only talking about her
They made her a dam GINGER beautiful done 😂
Mindy Park (The Martian) doesn't make much sense either. I believe Park is a common Korean name but no description of race is ever given with the character in the book.
Funnily the explicit racial change they did make was Venket Kupur. He was an older Indian man and they replaced him with a younger black actor. I wonder why that wasn't mentioned.
Hispanic lady, Hispanic isn't the same as Spanish.
This aint yellowface from bfb
And today we get the teaser trailer of a nearly all Asian Marvel movie (Shang Chi). I think we're getting somewhere :D
In ghost in the shell, the author of the Manga literally said that they never imagined the character as specifically Japanese.
Well, i mean its animation, alot of anime characters dont look particularly 1 race over another..... still doesnt mean that kusanagi couldnt have been asian....
@@MrEvldreamr The original director of the anime, Mamoru Oshii defended the casting of Scarlet many times. Saying that it is not a case of whitewashing since they are a cyborg, not to mention what I have mentioned before, they never imagined the character as specifically Asian.
Little Big Heart.s this is an echo chamber. The character's LITERAL SHELL is of a Caucasian woman. Inconvenient facts.
RecoveringChristian that’s what I think too. And she’s a cyborg, not in her real body. Who knows what happens to her real one right? That’s what I think.
Not Japanese doesnt make the character automatically white.
Avatar: The Last Airbender the movie was an abomination and an utter disappointment, and it's not just due to the bizzare yellowface/brownface (of every main character! An Indian guy played Zuko???)
I understood the fire nation to be Japanese. earth nation yo be China. water nation to be inuit and the air nomads to be Tibetan.
if you wanted to be very percise about racial consistant.
Skinnymarks fire nation Japanese? How is that referenced anywhere? I understand the rest just not that one
+gustavo pena +Skinnymarks I agree with Skinnymarks, however, East Asian looking actors would've made it a bit better for the nations other than the Water tribe and "doing justice" do the original series. I feel like it's Japanese in the sense of their names, Zuko, Azula, Lord Ozai, which sounds Japanese and other elements that I don't have the time to explain now.
Michail Highland hmmm... Ill just state what's going through my head
There are three cultural references in the fire nation
Pre Colombian Mexican
Indian
And Japanese
Thoughts?
gustavo pena because the fire nation is a chain of islands next to the earth nation. Much like Japan is next to China.
Also there is a lot of Japanese cultural immagery in the fire nation.
Earth nation has a lot of China cultural immagery
Water nation Inuit.
And air nomads have a bit of a mix of Indian and Tibetan cultural immagery. Though to be fair Tibet and India did influance eachother religious and cultural features quite a bit.
Its laughable that they tried saying scarlet Johansson's casting was yellowface
i researched this topic for a school project and boy was that depressing. just looking at the list of actors I loved and admired who had done these things and never say anything wrong with it was truly heartbreaking. i also realised that I could only think of one non stereotypical asian character which was really sad because looking back at all the shows and movies I loved with asians, although some were progressive, they still had a lot of stereotypes. it only reminds me how much work we have left to be done
No, goku is fine as a white guy. No actor wants to be associated with that terrible movie, and I think some Asian actor dodged a career ending bullet
it is racism, and they should have hired an alien actor!
+Ionlymadethistoleavecoments:
That movie sucked ass! And? Guilty of Whitewashing! The Han Chinese verison made in Taiwan was way better. At least the casting was done right!
Matt Damon playing the lead in The Great Wall... Just saying ...
damnjustassignmeone weren't the characters portrayed Caucasian ? the issue is when roles made for Asian are not being portrayed as Asians.
DigitalYojimbo All I know is that an Asian guy is never the hero in Hollywood. Big historical action adventure move set in ancient China? Write it for a white guy to save the day.
Because it's a movie designed for the Chinese market and they love Matt Damon for whatever reason.
damnjustassignmeone Well he play the rol of merchant he could be white unless being a merchant from Europe means he has to be asian..
He played a character who wasn’t Asian tho....
I'm Indian, I find those Indian renditions amusing! 😂🤣😂🤣 Kutcher killed it!
That's ok, but realize that these kind of characters are sometimes the only Indians people see in their life (especially in childhood, when many prejudices are formed).
@@dodec8449 Bollywood exists btw
I'm not commenting on the offensiveness of these types of casting choices...what I think of first, and have since I was a little kid, is that it's WEIRD.
If I were going to cast a character in a film who was 6'6" I can't imagine hiring a 5'10" actor and putting them on stilts. Whenever I watch a film along the lines of those mentioned in the video I find the casting choices distracting. They ruin the experience.
Agree with everything except the Clout Atlas comment. That wasn't necessarily "yellow face." The story wasn't attempting to make Hugo Weaving an asian caricature or "white wash" that character. It was based on the premise that our soul moves from one body to another, and we are reincarnated again and again as different people, races, in different times and places.
+Chris M I know. I also felt like the Cloud Atlas comment was uncalled for.Plus the Asian actress was in "white face", if thats a thing, at the end of the movie how come that wasn't a problem? The premise of the movie was so that all the actors play their various reincarnation forms.
I agree with everything else tho.
Guy, get a clue, get your head out of your ass, and get over yourself as a white person.
Neville600
Im mongolian and when i found out Genghis Khan was cast as a non asian man i was not surprised and i was like 9 when i found out because hollywood always does this
as an indian im not offended......
Lets all think about what it means to be an actor. An actor is a person that pretendes to be a person that they are not. Chadwick Boseman was not born in Wakanda or even Afrika does that make it a problem that he played the king of wakanda in black panther?
The Cloud Atlas reference is not fair. Everyone plays different races and genders in that movie.
Sorry I wrote my comment before reading yours.
I think the Wakowskis wanted to use the same actors as a statement on gender reassignment.
I still don't think Cloud Atlas is a fair reference.
Agree, cloud atlas is showing the same soul reincarnated in different eras of time. Also one of the leads Doona Bae is Korean and equally reincarnated as different races. I think one of the central themes of the movie is that races and genders are immaterial, it's an exploration of the soul as being more important than what's on the outside. Yet every criticism is about what's on the outside...
krandaman1 Exactly :)
Really bad movie, IMO, but yeah its not a real "offender."
That's why I just watch movies from Asia 😂😅
Monbebe.Melody.MyDay MonToDay
WEEB
I Hate 2D animation profiles nah they’re better than stupid American movies
Anica Xie
Did You Even Watch the New BLade Runner and 11.22.63
Jane E
Watch Treasure PLanet
Monbebe.Melody.Carat MonToTeen lol same
Fast forward to 2020 "FOX EYE MAKEUP LOOK"🤷🏻♀️
I remember seeing Harry shum jr in an Interview and his body language and gestures were so familiar. Then it hit me that he reminded me of my friends and family. I realized I’ve seen his body language in real life and never on the screen. It was a moment where I was like “yes! This is familiar and comforting and I want more!” I’m half Asian.
I just want Hollywood to respect the original materials, I want my Human Torch white and Goku Asian, is it really that hard?
lloooooollll
but Goku isn't Asian, he's an alien
Tony Stark I know man, I kno (shakes head in complete shame)
Tony Stark it's Hollywood elite actors. star power. it's stupid
joshua doe so is Superman but Superman is still white. and Goku is clearly asian.